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(Network World)   Microsoft to let customers pick which country will host their data so as to avoid government snooping. And monkeys will fly out of their servers   (networkworld.com) divider line 23
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2014-01-24 09:41:05 AM
...and so it begins

/American IT was fun and lucrative while it lasted
 
2014-01-24 09:42:00 AM
Doesn't the NSA usually grab data in transit?  Wouldn't a longer transit time/distance make it easier for them?
 
2014-01-24 09:42:59 AM
Don't make a bit of difference. As long as they can access the data from Redmond, that's the only place that needs to have a subpoena.
 
2014-01-24 09:48:20 AM
NSA says "thank you, come again" as your data packets travel through Fort Meade, Maryland on their way to where ever.

www.telegeography.com
 
2014-01-24 10:04:26 AM
What are they smoking up there in Redmond?
 
2014-01-24 10:11:26 AM
Wouldn't it be awesome if you could do that with porn too?

/willickers!
 
2014-01-24 10:15:38 AM
It's a trap
 
2014-01-24 10:22:17 AM
like the the NSA gives a damn about international law anyway
 
2014-01-24 10:29:16 AM

mccallcl: ...and so it begins

/American IT was fun and lucrative while it lasted


Its not going anywhere.  If anything it will continue to explode.
 
2014-01-24 10:55:33 AM

Egoy3k: Doesn't the NSA usually grab data in transit?  Wouldn't a longer transit time/distance make it easier for them?


There are people that don't live in the US, but use the internet.

/TMYK!
 
2014-01-24 10:59:34 AM
Serious question: what other country would be better? I know in reality it's irrelevant to data privacy, since the US government can still get to it, but from a geopolitical standpoint which governments are friendlier in this regard?
 
2014-01-24 11:01:18 AM

gingerjet: If anything it will continue to explode.


Overseas, maybe. The world will continue to take advantage of our open-source efforts, but there is no way that hosting is going to be done here, with the threat of spying and the option not to be subjected to it only a click away. There will be an "international version" of IT products and services that will soon become the standard. I've already started hearing about it in meetings. Managers are backing away from US cloud offerings and other US IT products...
 
2014-01-24 11:08:18 AM

xria: Egoy3k: Doesn't the NSA usually grab data in transit?  Wouldn't a longer transit time/distance make it easier for them?

There are people that don't live in the US, but use the internet.

/TMYK!


Isn't that kind of like saying, there are teams outside of NYC (where HQ is located), that still play NFL football? No, it's not an official "league of internet users" but considering that the US military created the internet, their arms probably have a long reach.
 
2014-01-24 11:19:13 AM
So some other government can snoop our data? Yeah, that's great.
 
2014-01-24 11:41:46 AM

xria: Egoy3k: Doesn't the NSA usually grab data in transit?  Wouldn't a longer transit time/distance make it easier for them?

There are people that don't live in the US, but use the internet.

/TMYK!


Canadians don't count, they're 'merican by proxy
 
2014-01-24 12:28:58 PM

xria: Egoy3k: Doesn't the NSA usually grab data in transit?  Wouldn't a longer transit time/distance make it easier for them?

There are people that don't live in the US, but use the internet.

/TMYK!


Do you actually believe that the NSA only spies on Americans, or only within the USA?  I have a really nice bridge to sell you.
 
2014-01-24 01:14:00 PM

Egoy3k: Doesn't the NSA usually grab data in transit?  Wouldn't a longer transit time/distance make it easier for them?


If it's encrypted though, even if they can break the encryption, it probably still costs them a lot of computing resources to do it. And while they can store it encrypted forever so that if later they find a person of interest they can go back and decrypt it, if the data is encrypted, it reduces their ability to look for patterns and such.
 
2014-01-24 01:26:40 PM
imageshack.com
 
2014-01-24 01:54:34 PM
So what difference is that supposed to make when the NSA orders Microsoft to hand over your data?
 
2014-01-24 01:56:54 PM

Egoy3k: xria: Egoy3k: Doesn't the NSA usually grab data in transit?  Wouldn't a longer transit time/distance make it easier for them?

There are people that don't live in the US, but use the internet.

/TMYK!

Do you actually believe that the NSA only spies on Americans, or only within the USA?  I have a really nice bridge to sell you.


This.  The advantage of being in the USA is that they're not supposed to look there.  (Whether or not they actually do is another question entirely, but still).  If it's overseas, then they are supposed to look at it and so they do.
 
2014-01-24 03:38:09 PM
It's really adorable that people believe other countries could possibly avoid NSA surveillance when we spend more on surveillance than the entire GDP of most countries. Go ahead, put your data elsewhere. Use different technology. If you think we can't watch, you're in for a rude awakening.
 
2014-01-24 05:06:15 PM

thurstonxhowell: It's really adorable that people believe other countries could possibly avoid NSA surveillance when we spend more on surveillance than the entire GDP of most countries. Go ahead, put your data elsewhere. Use different technology. If you think we can't watch, you're in for a rude awakening.


Or not.



s.ecrater.com
 
2014-01-24 06:09:18 PM
Hmm, let's see:

Step 1: pretend to be a country hospitable to storing data
Step 2: change your mind and seize all the data
Step 3: sell it and profit?

Or:

Step 2: become an unstable country and collapse
Step 3: someone else sells the data and profits?
 
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