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2014-01-24 07:46:59 AM
stickerish.com
 
2014-01-24 07:53:16 AM
It's a start but I do not expect anything seriously to be done until oceanside property, commercial and residential, of the "American business leaders" who are bankrolling the anti-climate change movement gets flooded/devalued by the effects of climate change.  Kind of like with LGBT rights, they do not do the right thing until it directly affects them.
 
2014-01-24 07:55:24 AM

heavymetal: It's a start but I do not expect anything seriously to be done until oceanside property, commercial and residential, of the "American business leaders" who are bankrolling the anti-climate change movement gets flooded/devalued by the effects of climate change.  Kind of like with LGBT rights, they do not do the right thing until it directly affects them.


Hey now! I decided to get peed on by a dozen greased men in bow ties to CELEBRATE my tolerance, not because it was repressed!
 
2014-01-24 07:56:41 AM
Done in one.
 
2014-01-24 08:05:19 AM
They take it seriously before it starts affecting the bottom line - reinsurance projects future risk based on the expectation of climate change, and businesses that interact with reinsurance buy that information.  The goofy part is that reinsurance companies often have to package that data in a way that doesn't include references to climate change, because it makes their clients upset to know that they are mitigating risk by admitting that climate change is real.  You have to spoon-feed these retarded business owners their spinach while convincing them it's candy, or else they will refuse to eat it.
 
2014-01-24 08:24:28 AM
Relevant to this thread:

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2014-01-24 08:24:34 AM
I always figured insurance companies would be the one to finally start pulling some heads out of asses - "No, we're not going to sell you a policy for your new $5m condo by the beach, sorry!" - but yeah Coke getting worried makes a lot of sense too.
 
2014-01-24 08:31:03 AM
Industry Awakens to Threat cashing in on the craze of Climate Change.

Line up sheep. Empty your wallets. If we say it on the internet, television and newspapers, then it must be true. Alarmists are making money for us and suckers out of you so you'll believe anything because you're hard wired to do so.

...brought to you by the Global Warming Taliban.
..It's FARK. Roll the graphs, insults and the itmustbetruebecauseiwanttobelievers.
 
2014-01-24 08:45:17 AM

indarwinsshadow: Industry Awakens to Threat cashing in on the craze of Climate Change.

Line up sheep. Empty your wallets. If we say it on the internet, television and newspapers, then it must be true. Alarmists are making money for us and suckers out of you so you'll believe anything because you're hard wired to do so.

...brought to you by the Global Warming Taliban.
..It's FARK. Roll the graphs, insults and the itmustbetruebecauseiwanttobelievers.


Critical thinking an occaam's razor are not really among your strong points, are they?

You do realize that just because someone says "X is going to happen" does not mean they WANT X to happen, right?

Or are you one of those nutjobs that went "The libs WANT us to fail in Iraq, because they're saying it's a bad idea and that we'll fail!"
 
2014-01-24 08:50:23 AM

Felgraf: indarwinsshadow: Industry Awakens to Threat cashing in on the craze of Climate Change.

Line up sheep. Empty your wallets. If we say it on the internet, television and newspapers, then it must be true. Alarmists are making money for us and suckers out of you so you'll believe anything because you're hard wired to do so.

...brought to you by the Global Warming Taliban.
..It's FARK. Roll the graphs, insults and the itmustbetruebecauseiwanttobelievers.

Critical thinking an occaam's razor are not really among your strong points, are they?

You do realize that just because someone says "X is going to happen" does not mean they WANT X to happen, right?

Or are you one of those nutjobs that went "The libs WANT us to fail in Iraq, because they're saying it's a bad idea and that we'll fail!"


Ding. We have our first player of the series. Congratulations. You've won the internets.

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Bow. Bow sucker to the alter that is the hypnotic flame of belief. If you believe it and no one else does that makes you superior, and everyone else inferior. You can sleep tonight, secure in the knowledge that you. And only you, can save the world by planting your foot on the face of anyone who doesn't believe what you believe. Count yourself among the giants of your beliefs. You're right up their with the Taliban, Raeliens, and the Jones town followers. Just. Don't drink the cool aid when they tell you to.

Sucker.

The Global Warming Taliban need a cool uniform. That's the one thing they're missing.
 
2014-01-24 08:56:36 AM

Felgraf: Or are you one of those nutjobs that went "The libs WANT us to fail in Iraq, because they're saying it's a bad idea and that we'll fail!"


I recall plenty of people, including Farkers, wanted the US to fail hard(er) in Iraq because they thought it would make it unlikely for the Bush administration to have a second term.
 
2014-01-24 08:59:05 AM

indarwinsshadow: The Global Warming Taliban need a cool uniform. That's the one thing they're missing.


Taliban aren't much for uniforms.  Though they love the AK-47s so what the Global Warming Taliban really need are AKs
 
2014-01-24 09:00:05 AM

Felgraf: indarwinsshadow: Industry Awakens to Threat cashing in on the craze of Climate Change.

Line up sheep. Empty your wallets. If we say it on the internet, television and newspapers, then it must be true. Alarmists are making money for us and suckers out of you so you'll believe anything because you're hard wired to do so.

...brought to you by the Global Warming Taliban.
..It's FARK. Roll the graphs, insults and the itmustbetruebecauseiwanttobelievers.

Critical thinking an occaam's razor are not really among your strong points, are they?

You do realize that just because someone says "X is going to happen" does not mean they WANT X to happen, right?

Or are you one of those nutjobs that went "The libs WANT us to fail in Iraq, because they're saying it's a bad idea and that we'll fail!"


You're responding to someone who thinks like a fundamentalist.
 
2014-01-24 09:00:57 AM

indarwinsshadow: Bow. Bow sucker to the alter that is the hypnotic flame of belief. If you believe it and no one else does that makes you superior, and everyone else inferior.


.... No? If you don't believe, it makes you <i> wrong</i>, but it doesn't make you inferior. 'Inferior' and 'Superior' aren't.. those are sort of value judgements that don't make a whole lot of sense in this context.

The only one here I'm reaalllyyy seeing with a superiority complex is you. And you kind of started off with it.

I won't bow at the hypnotic flame of belief. But, uh. Do you have a general grasp of thermodynamics? (This is not a superiority question. Ignorance does not make one inferior. It is simply ignorance. WILLFUL ignorance makes one.. not sure if I want to use inferior. Perhaps just "Intensely frustrating and foolish.")

Or do you just believe carbon dioxide can't trap sunlight? Or something else?

Feepit: Felgraf: Or are you one of those nutjobs that went "The libs WANT us to fail in Iraq, because they're saying it's a bad idea and that we'll fail!"

I recall plenty of people, including Farkers, wanted the US to fail hard(er) in Iraq because they thought it would make it unlikely for the Bush administration to have a second term.


And by "Plenty", do you mean a majority, or, like, "Hey here's, maybe a couple thousand fringe lefties, tops". 'Cause I seem to recall that charge being leveled at *everyone* who opposed the war.
 
2014-01-24 09:01:05 AM

bmongar: indarwinsshadow: The Global Warming Taliban need a cool uniform. That's the one thing they're missing.

Taliban aren't much for uniforms.  Though they love the AK-47s so what the Global Warming Taliban really need are AKs


We can call them AG-47s after our Lord and Savior Al Gore!

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2014-01-24 09:03:13 AM

Shakin_Haitian: You're responding to someone who thinks like a fundamentalist.


Probably, but I don't believe in just giving up on folks. I'm a... eh. I suppose I could be called a cynical optimist. Idealism can be frustrating at times.

And from a cynical perspective, there's *other* folks watching. If you don't engage people like this, or anti-vaxers...

Well, we've seen what's started to happen when the anti-vaccination people weren't confronted with facts. =/
 
2014-01-24 09:03:55 AM
The Earth's climate has been constantly shifting for billions of years, and the last "mini ice age" was less only a few centuries ago (a blink of the eye in terms of the world's overall history).  How hard can it be to understand that releasing hundreds of billions of cubic meters of trapped carbon into the atmosphere in less than a century would influence those changes?

I've never fully understood how global warming became politicized.  If the idea is that by accepting global warming and implementing controls to curb carbon emissions and increase energy efficiency, then genuine businessmen and fiscal conservatives should welcome those opportunities.  They've made their money polluting the world, and now there's billions to be made cleaning it up.  Entire new energy grids to be built, technologies to be developed (and patented), etc.

Seriously, why the pushback?  I really don't understand the reasoning or motivation behind denying global warming.
 
2014-01-24 09:04:25 AM

Felgraf: And by "Plenty", do you mean a majority, or, like, "Hey here's, maybe a couple thousand fringe lefties, tops". 'Cause I seem to recall that charge being leveled at *everyone* who opposed the war.


I suppose that depends on how you define failure. Pretty much everyone experienced some degree of schadenfreude at the lack of WMDs and the general instability of the region, but only a fringe group were hoping for the deaths of US soldiers.

To be honest, it often seems most members of political parties care more about the success of their club than their country as a whole.
 
2014-01-24 09:04:40 AM
I expect our beamish boy will be warming up later by burning an effigy of Algore.
 
2014-01-24 09:05:40 AM

Feepit: We can call them AG-47s after our Lord and Savior Al Gore!


... Okay, I realize Al Gore released a movie about global warming, but why does everyone assume that because I think "Hey. Humans have the ability to radically alter the climate and environment. Maybe we should be more careful and not pump waste material into our air", I must worship Al Gore? Frick, I've never even *seen* An Inconvenient Truth. Nor do I have any intention on it, 'cause Al Gore, among other things, rubs me the wrong way.
 
2014-01-24 09:08:04 AM

Feepit: I suppose that depends on how you define failure. Pretty much everyone experienced some degree of schadenfreude at the lack of WMDs and the general instability of the region, but only a fringe group were hoping for the deaths of US soldiers.


WAit hold on.

You can't lump in "Aha, we told you the WMD's were a fake, but you didn't listen" and "AHAHAHA, the region is farked and people are dying!". Those are, uh. *WILDLY* different.

"Don't do X, it's stupid and you'll get hurt!" *Does X*" "I farkING TOLD YOU" "YEAH WELL YOU WANTED ME TO GET HURT!"

That.. doesn't make sense. If you wanted them to get hurt, and you felt X would make them get hurt, you wouldn't have warned them not to do X. You may, yes, feel some schaudenfreud that they annoyed you and then got hurt, but that... that seems very different than hoping that they, indeed, did get hurt.
 
2014-01-24 09:08:18 AM

Felgraf: ... Okay, I realize Al Gore released a movie about global warming, but why does everyone assume that because I think "Hey. Humans have the ability to radically alter the climate and environment. Maybe we should be more careful and not pump waste material into our air", I must worship Al Gore? Frick, I've never even *seen* An Inconvenient Truth. Nor do I have any intention on it, 'cause Al Gore, among other things, rubs me the wrong way.


We think that because you take posts like the one you just responded to about an AG-47 seriously.
 
2014-01-24 09:11:33 AM

Feepit: Felgraf: ... Okay, I realize Al Gore released a movie about global warming, but why does everyone assume that because I think "Hey. Humans have the ability to radically alter the climate and environment. Maybe we should be more careful and not pump waste material into our air", I must worship Al Gore? Frick, I've never even *seen* An Inconvenient Truth. Nor do I have any intention on it, 'cause Al Gore, among other things, rubs me the wrong way.

We think that because you take posts like the one you just responded to about an AG-47 seriously.


Eh, it was more the al-gore bit I was responding to, and it seemed like as good a place as any to bring it up.
 
2014-01-24 09:16:37 AM

Felgraf: You can't lump in "Aha, we told you the WMD's were a fake, but you didn't listen" and "AHAHAHA, the region is farked and people are dying!". Those are, uh. *WILDLY* different.


Well, in that case, I suppose it is a good thing I didn't lump them together!

There were people hoping we would fail in Iraq. Our mission there was supposedly to get rid of their WMDs and some other stuff. For the time period we are discussing, people didn't know there weren't WMDs in Iraq, so ...

One failure would be not finding any WMDs.
Another failure would be not being able to stabilize the region.
Another failure would be having our men and women in uniform come to harm.

You understand how all those things are points of failure people can hope for and that they fall into a spectrum of degrees of failure that some might find acceptable and others won't; right?
 
2014-01-24 09:20:20 AM

Feepit: Felgraf: You can't lump in "Aha, we told you the WMD's were a fake, but you didn't listen" and "AHAHAHA, the region is farked and people are dying!". Those are, uh. *WILDLY* different.

Well, in that case, I suppose it is a good thing I didn't lump them together!

There were people hoping we would fail in Iraq. Our mission there was supposedly to get rid of their WMDs and some other stuff. For the time period we are discussing, people didn't know there weren't WMDs in Iraq, so ...

One failure would be not finding any WMDs.
Another failure would be not being able to stabilize the region.
Another failure would be having our men and women in uniform come to harm.

You understand how all those things are points of failure people can hope for and that they fall into a spectrum of degrees of failure that some might find acceptable and others won't; right?


True, I suppose, though I was under the impression that, generally, when liberals were accused of "Wanting us to fail in Iraq",  or "Want the region to destabilize and see people get harmed" it was generally along the implied lines of "Want our troops to die." Since accusing liberals of us "Not wanting to find WMD's in Iraq!" is... uh. Not a terrible useful attack?

Perhaps I should have initially clarified, then, and simply said the kind of person that said "You don't thinke we should be in Iraq? YOU WANT US TO LOSE AND OUR TROOPS TO DIE, don't you?!" I did not realize I was going to get into specifics here and didn't consider that "hoping we don't find WMD" counted as "hoping we fail."

(Then again, the "Hoping we don't find WMD" thing doesn't make a HUGE ammount of sense, since... if you're pretty sure they don't have it anyways, why/how could you hope they don't find it? I guess you just might hope to not be proven wrong, though I'm still a bit iffy on whether or not I agree that counts as 'hope of failure'.)
 
2014-01-24 09:20:53 AM

indarwinsshadow: Industry Awakens to Threat cashing in on the craze of Climate Change.

Line up sheep. Empty your wallets. If we say it on the internet, television and newspapers, then it must be true. Alarmists are making money for us and suckers out of you so you'll believe anything because you're hard wired to do so.

...brought to you by the Global Warming Taliban.
..It's FARK. Roll the graphs, insults and the itmustbetruebecauseiwanttobelievers.


And of course you can provide compelling counter arguments as to why Global Warming is a myth right?

Right?
 
2014-01-24 09:25:55 AM

Felgraf: Perhaps I should have initially clarified, then, and simply said the kind of person that said "You don't thinke we should be in Iraq? YOU WANT US TO LOSE AND OUR TROOPS TO DIE, don't you?!" I did not realize I was going to get into specifics here and didn't consider that "hoping we don't find WMD" counted as "hoping we fail."


On one hand, not finding WMDs damaged the credibility of the United States on the global stage (bad). On the other hand, as far as we know, Saddam didn't have any WMDs  (good).
 
2014-01-24 09:27:54 AM
Money talks, and bullshiat walks. If the money decides that climate change is real - then it is. If the money decides that something is to be done about it - it will.
Y'all might as well fold up all your fancy debatin' arguments and put them away.
They won't be needed when the money makes up it's mind.
 
2014-01-24 09:37:19 AM

jso2897: Money talks, and bullshiat walks. If the money decides that climate change is real - then it is. If the money decides that something is to be done about it - it will.
Y'all might as well fold up all your fancy debatin' arguments and put them away.
They won't be needed when the money makes up it's mind.


I *DO* believe global warming is real, but this argument is... species.
Counter-argument: The US Economy prior to the crash in 2008, especially re: The derivatives market. There was a looootttt of money spent and put into that, but that doesn't mean those derivatives *Were* a good value.

/But, yeah, Climate change is real and we're going to be dealing with the effects for a while.
// Amusingly, some folks did the math, and apparently a limited nuclear exchange WOULD kick up enough dust to offset it for a while. More as a thought experiment than "LET'S DO THIS"
///NUKES FOR SALVATION is just a concept that amuses me, not something I want to happen.
 
2014-01-24 09:38:12 AM

Free Radical: indarwinsshadow: Industry Awakens to Threat cashing in on the craze of Climate Change.

Line up sheep. Empty your wallets. If we say it on the internet, television and newspapers, then it must be true. Alarmists are making money for us and suckers out of you so you'll believe anything because you're hard wired to do so.

...brought to you by the Global Warming Taliban.
..It's FARK. Roll the graphs, insults and the itmustbetruebecauseiwanttobelievers.

And of course you can provide compelling counter arguments as to why Global Warming is a myth right?

Right?


I can't. I promised my mother years ago I wouldn't make fun of the mentally handicapped.

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2014-01-24 09:39:10 AM

indarwinsshadow: Free Radical: indarwinsshadow: Industry Awakens to Threat cashing in on the craze of Climate Change.

Line up sheep. Empty your wallets. If we say it on the internet, television and newspapers, then it must be true. Alarmists are making money for us and suckers out of you so you'll believe anything because you're hard wired to do so.

...brought to you by the Global Warming Taliban.
..It's FARK. Roll the graphs, insults and the itmustbetruebecauseiwanttobelievers.

And of course you can provide compelling counter arguments as to why Global Warming is a myth right?

Right?

I can't. I promised my mother years ago I wouldn't make fun of the mentally handicapped.

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Ah, is this because you feel superior to them?

I get the feeling you don't necessarily even believe what your saying. I suppose I was wasting my time talking to a fundie, after all...
 
2014-01-24 09:43:55 AM

capn' fun: The Earth's climate has been constantly shifting for billions of years, and the last "mini ice age" was less only a few centuries ago (a blink of the eye in terms of the world's overall history).  How hard can it be to understand that releasing hundreds of billions of cubic meters of trapped carbon into the atmosphere in less than a century would influence those changes?

I've never fully understood how global warming became politicized.  If the idea is that by accepting global warming and implementing controls to curb carbon emissions and increase energy efficiency, then genuine businessmen and fiscal conservatives should welcome those opportunities.  They've made their money polluting the world, and now there's billions to be made cleaning it up.  Entire new energy grids to be built, technologies to be developed (and patented), etc.

Seriously, why the pushback?  I really don't understand the reasoning or motivation behind denying global warming.


Because repurposing an entire industry is going to cost a lot of money and the guys at the top won't see a return on that investment in their lifetime.  It's not unlike net neutrality, where the Internet was the most level playing field out there which means a lot more competition and constant innovation is needed from the big players in order to stay on top.  Stripping away that level playing field allows the big guys to face less competition and control the way the market moves a lot more.

 Meanwhile, converting to power sources like solar and wind energy allows nearly anyone to put up some panels, or to a lesser extent turbines, and get energy.  Property acquisition is still going to be important, but not nearly as much as it was for oil and gas, where land formations force a company to approach wells from certain directions and ground types.  You can't really monopolize the sun or wind which means a more level playing field for any competition that comes along.

There's probably quite a few other reasons, but that's my quick take on it.
 
2014-01-24 09:53:07 AM

Felgraf: I *DO* believe global warming is real, but this argument is... species.


I'm assuming you mean "specious" - and it may very well be - I am merely pointing out that if or when it isn't, none of the abstract arguments will mean shiat. When the big corporate dollars decide a social change is in their interests, it tends to happen.
 
2014-01-24 09:55:22 AM

Felgraf: jso2897: Money talks, and bullshiat walks. If the money decides that climate change is real - then it is. If the money decides that something is to be done about it - it will.
Y'all might as well fold up all your fancy debatin' arguments and put them away.
They won't be needed when the money makes up it's mind.

I *DO* believe global warming is real, but this argument is... species.
Counter-argument: The US Economy prior to the crash in 2008, especially re: The derivatives market. There was a looootttt of money spent and put into that, but that doesn't mean those derivatives *Were* a good value.

/But, yeah, Climate change is real and we're going to be dealing with the effects for a while.
// Amusingly, some folks did the math, and apparently a limited nuclear exchange WOULD kick up enough dust to offset it for a while. More as a thought experiment than "LET'S DO THIS"
///NUKES FOR SALVATION is just a concept that amuses me, not something I want to happen.


You should check out the illustrious Dr. teller. He had a whole laundry list of clever things he wanted to do with nuclear explosives.
 
2014-01-24 09:55:39 AM

Feepit: Our mission there was supposedly to get rid of their WMDs and some other stuff. For the time period we are discussing, people didn't know there weren't WMDs in Iraq, so ...



Your grasp of history's kinda fuzzy, there.
 
2014-01-24 10:04:20 AM

Felgraf: indarwinsshadow: Free Radical: indarwinsshadow: Industry Awakens to Threat cashing in on the craze of Climate Change.

Line up sheep. Empty your wallets. If we say it on the internet, television and newspapers, then it must be true. Alarmists are making money for us and suckers out of you so you'll believe anything because you're hard wired to do so.

...brought to you by the Global Warming Taliban.
..It's FARK. Roll the graphs, insults and the itmustbetruebecauseiwanttobelievers.

And of course you can provide compelling counter arguments as to why Global Warming is a myth right?

Right?

I can't. I promised my mother years ago I wouldn't make fun of the mentally handicapped.

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Ah, is this because you feel superior to them?

I get the feeling you don't necessarily even believe what your saying. I suppose I was wasting my time talking to a fundie, after all...


Yet, you feel compelled to answer?

You don't want answers. You want an argument because you're bothered that anyone would dare refute your belief system. Just like any good zealot. You're a dog with a bone....fetch..
 
2014-01-24 10:06:31 AM

jso2897: Felgraf: I *DO* believe global warming is real, but this argument is... species.

I'm assuming you mean "specious" - and it may very well be - I am merely pointing out that if or when it isn't, none of the abstract arguments will mean shiat. When the big corporate dollars decide a social change is in their interests, it tends to happen.


THE ARGUMENT IS GIRAFFES

No, you're right, I actually meant specious. Not really sure how I screwed THAT up.

You have a good point there, then. Sorry, I thought you meant we can use where corporate dollars go to help determine if something is true or not, and that evoked "Augh no" mental flailing from me.
(Like the spazzy robot on Lost in Space. DANGER WILL ROBINSON! MY ARMS ARE FLAILING UNCONTROLLABLY)
 
2014-01-24 10:07:27 AM

jso2897: Felgraf: I *DO* believe global warming is real, but this argument is... species.

I'm assuming you mean "specious" - and it may very well be - I am merely pointing out that if or when it isn't, none of the abstract arguments will mean shiat. When the big corporate dollars decide a social change is in their interests, it tends to happen.


No he meant species.  That argument is a whole different species.

ok I tried. not hard but i tried.
 
2014-01-24 10:08:20 AM
Business address anything that "effects the bottom line" because that is what businesses are and what they do. Charities address things that are unprofitable but better mankind. It is no one's fault but yours if you don't know the difference between the two.

/protip: if you want more charity, you lower taxes and regulation.
 
2014-01-24 10:11:16 AM
Businesses will never give two shiats about climate change unless provide products or services to fight it. Business can't get beyond the profits and margins of the next quarter - how on earth do you expect them to sacrifice anything for such a distant risk?

Because it is a global issue it is going to be political and the current economic powers are going to fight it - even if they know that the costs are dreadful in the long run. A classic example of the tragedy of the commons.
 
2014-01-24 10:29:53 AM

phaseolus: Feepit: Our mission there was supposedly to get rid of their WMDs and some other stuff. For the time period we are discussing, people didn't know there weren't WMDs in Iraq, so ...


Your grasp of history's kinda fuzzy, there.


Both the US and UK intelligence services said there were WMDs in Iraq, which is part of the reason the US congress authorized the invasion of Iraq.

It appears your grasp of history is fuzzy.
 
2014-01-24 10:35:42 AM

indarwinsshadow: Felgraf: indarwinsshadow: Free Radical: indarwinsshadow: Industry Awakens to Threat cashing in on the craze of Climate Change.

Line up sheep. Empty your wallets. If we say it on the internet, television and newspapers, then it must be true. Alarmists are making money for us and suckers out of you so you'll believe anything because you're hard wired to do so.

...brought to you by the Global Warming Taliban.
..It's FARK. Roll the graphs, insults and the itmustbetruebecauseiwanttobelievers.

And of course you can provide compelling counter arguments as to why Global Warming is a myth right?

Right?

I can't. I promised my mother years ago I wouldn't make fun of the mentally handicapped.

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Ah, is this because you feel superior to them?

I get the feeling you don't necessarily even believe what your saying. I suppose I was wasting my time talking to a fundie, after all...

Yet, you feel compelled to answer?

You don't want answers. You want an argument because you're bothered that anyone would dare refute your belief system. Just like any good zealot. You're a dog with a bone....fetch..


Well, no. I reply because I'm actually curious about other people's points of view, or let them explain why they feel the way they do. A lot of times I've found vitrolic arugments just come from miscommunication or simple misunderstandings.

(See: People that believe what Deepak Chopra says about Quantum Mechanics. It boils down to physicists using the word 'observe' in quantum mechanics very differently than what most
But you've no interest in that. You're convinced of your ways, all while screaming other people are zealots, aren't you? You've no interest in elaborating, just insulting anyone with the audacity to disagree. Which I find rather tedious.

So I'll leave you to kneel at the hypnotic lure of your rebellion. You can sleep soundly tonight, in the knowledge that you, and only you, can save the world by casting the oppressors down from their tower. After all, you have knowledge that they don't, and if they must be brought low to be brought to heel, so be it, and all their followers with them. Count yourself among the giants of your rebel faction. You're right up there with the anti-vaxers, the young earth creationists, and the Taliban.
Hahhaaa wow that whole screed just seems *so absurd* and angry, it's hard to mimic your style like that. Do you really *think* that way? Man, and you have the audacity to say *other* people are true believers, after posting stuff like that. Heh. If you really live that afraid of people that go "Hey, maybe we shouldn't mindlessly pollute the air", then I pity you, I really, really do.
 
2014-01-24 10:36:43 AM

capn' fun: The Earth's climate has been constantly shifting for billions of years, and the last "mini ice age" was less only a few centuries ago (a blink of the eye in terms of the world's overall history).  How hard can it be to understand that releasing hundreds of billions of cubic meters of trapped carbon into the atmosphere in less than a century would influence those changes?

I've never fully understood how global warming became politicized.  If the idea is that by accepting global warming and implementing controls to curb carbon emissions and increase energy efficiency, then genuine businessmen and fiscal conservatives should welcome those opportunities.  They've made their money polluting the world, and now there's billions to be made cleaning it up.  Entire new energy grids to be built, technologies to be developed (and patented), etc.

Seriously, why the pushback?  I really don't understand the reasoning or motivation behind denying global warming.


Because people hate change espcially if they having been doing the same thing for a while. They look at as losing profits setting up, not at the long term health of a company.
 
2014-01-24 10:41:50 AM

Felgraf: So I'll leave you to kneel at the hypnotic lure of your rebellion. You can sleep soundly tonight, in the knowledge that you, and only you, can save the world by casting the oppressors down from their tower. After all, you have knowledge that they don't, and if they must be brought low to be brought to heel, so be it, and all their followers with them. Count yourself among the giants of your rebel faction. You're right up there with the anti-vaxers, the young earth creationists, and the Taliban.


I actually think he might be right up there in the Poe's law hall of fame instead of the people you listed, but as poe's law states it is hard to tell the difference.
 
2014-01-24 10:44:20 AM

bmongar: Felgraf: So I'll leave you to kneel at the hypnotic lure of your rebellion. You can sleep soundly tonight, in the knowledge that you, and only you, can save the world by casting the oppressors down from their tower. After all, you have knowledge that they don't, and if they must be brought low to be brought to heel, so be it, and all their followers with them. Count yourself among the giants of your rebel faction. You're right up there with the anti-vaxers, the young earth creationists, and the Taliban.

I actually think he might be right up there in the Poe's law hall of fame instead of the people you listed, but as poe's law states it is hard to tell the difference.


It really really is. And I was mostly just aping the style of his Boobies in that. It's really damn absurd, I admit.
 
2014-01-24 10:48:15 AM

Felgraf: bmongar: Felgraf: So I'll leave you to kneel at the hypnotic lure of your rebellion. You can sleep soundly tonight, in the knowledge that you, and only you, can save the world by casting the oppressors down from their tower. After all, you have knowledge that they don't, and if they must be brought low to be brought to heel, so be it, and all their followers with them. Count yourself among the giants of your rebel faction. You're right up there with the anti-vaxers, the young earth creationists, and the Taliban.

I actually think he might be right up there in the Poe's law hall of fame instead of the people you listed, but as poe's law states it is hard to tell the difference.

It really really is. And I was mostly just aping the style of his Boobies in that. It's really damn absurd, I admit.


This is typical of his ilk - not just of AGW skeptics but the entire Conservative movement.  My brother's the same way, convinced of his rightness and therefore his superiority over the poor benighted Libbylibs, to whom he must condescend as though they are little children.  He didn't used to be like this before he discovered AM talk radio.
 
2014-01-24 10:57:09 AM

Pants full of macaroni!!: This is typical of his ilk - not just of AGW skeptics but the entire Conservative movement.  My brother's the same way, convinced of his rightness and therefore his superiority over the poor benighted Libbylibs, to whom he must condescend as though they are little children.  He didn't used to be like this before he discovered AM talk radio.


Yeah, I am sure it is just the conservative movement that is addled by a superiority complex.

Try designing a web site for a client or discussing music with someone who isn't the same age as yourself. That'll change your world view! Everyone is always convinced they are right. All the time.
 
2014-01-24 11:01:56 AM

indarwinsshadow: Free Radical: indarwinsshadow: Industry Awakens to Threat cashing in on the craze of Climate Change.

Line up sheep. Empty your wallets. If we say it on the internet, television and newspapers, then it must be true. Alarmists are making money for us and suckers out of you so you'll believe anything because you're hard wired to do so.

...brought to you by the Global Warming Taliban.
..It's FARK. Roll the graphs, insults and the itmustbetruebecauseiwanttobelievers.

And of course you can provide compelling counter arguments as to why Global Warming is a myth right?

Right?

I can't. I promised my mother years ago I wouldn't make fun of the mentally handicapped.

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Does your mother know you're not in school today?
 
2014-01-24 11:13:50 AM

Feepit: Pants full of macaroni!!: This is typical of his ilk - not just of AGW skeptics but the entire Conservative movement.  My brother's the same way, convinced of his rightness and therefore his superiority over the poor benighted Libbylibs, to whom he must condescend as though they are little children.  He didn't used to be like this before he discovered AM talk radio.

Yeah, I am sure it is just the conservative movement that is addled by a superiority complex.

Try designing a web site for a client or discussing music with someone who isn't the same age as yourself. That'll change your world view! Everyone is always convinced they are right. All the time.


Damn you are so convinced that Everyone is always convinced they are right that you must be a conservative.
 
2014-01-24 11:14:01 AM
Companies start taking global climate change seriously once it starts affecting the bottom line

So do governments, which is why the EU is revamping its clean energy regs.
 
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