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2014-01-24 07:15:03 AM  
Technically, there are a lot of farkers in Utah, but they are the baby-making kind.
 
2014-01-24 07:18:49 AM  
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"This actually needs some explanation. Beer in Supermarkets in Utah is weak, 3 points instead of the normal 6 points of alchohol. It's the religious influence, and a pain in the ass. Now to me it makes no sense. If you've got alchohol, you've got alchohol. So why 3 instead of 6? You know a drunk's just going to drink twice as many beers to get drunk, so you not only have a drunk on your hands, you have a drunk who's fat and gross. There's nothing worse."

 
2014-01-24 07:19:15 AM  
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2014-01-24 07:23:17 AM  
... and chip away at the outside perception the Utah's rules are abnormal.

It's not a perception, it's a reality.
 
2014-01-24 07:23:21 AM  
It's their state, they can do what they want with it. You don't have to live there.

/no, I do not extend that theory to every issue
 
2014-01-24 07:28:59 AM  
Way to separate Church and State, Utah.
 
2014-01-24 07:30:10 AM  
Utah had the lowest number of alcohol-related traffic deaths per capita in 2012, the church points out, citing federal highway statistics.

Their number of alcohol related traffic deaths per capita was .292 per 10,000 people. New York was second with .305 per 10,000 people, and New York had almost 9x the population as Utah.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-01-24 07:30:31 AM  
Too bad someone didn't warn Utah about Mormon culture before it was too late.
 
2014-01-24 07:37:47 AM  
There's an old saying: if you bring one Mormon fishing with you, he's going to drink all your beer. If you bring two Mormons fishing, you get to have all the beer to yourself.

ongbok: per 10,000 people, and New York had almost 9x the population as Utah.


Actual population size isn't important when you're measuring something on a per-capita basis. Now, some measure of density (cars per mile of road) may be useful- New York is much denser.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-01-24 07:39:08 AM  
ongbok:

Their number of alcohol related traffic deaths per capita was .292 per 10,000 people. New York was second with .305 per 10,000 people, and New York had almost 9x the population as Utah.

Which means what, considering that the statistics are per 10,000 people?
 
2014-01-24 07:40:55 AM  

vpb: ongbok:

Their number of alcohol related traffic deaths per capita was .292 per 10,000 people. New York was second with .305 per 10,000 people, and New York had almost 9x the population as Utah.

Which means what, considering that the statistics are per 10,000 people?


New York doesn't have crazy strict alcohol laws and their deaths per capita is almost as low as Utah's.
 
2014-01-24 07:42:38 AM  
Any religion that says rum and coffee is a sin is a dangerous cult that should be avoided at all costs.
 
2014-01-24 07:43:04 AM  
It has been awhile, but I went to SLC a few times on business trips before the Winter Olympics. I found two decent brewpubs and one even sold and filled growlers.
 
2014-01-24 07:45:12 AM  

Weaver95: Any religion that says rum and coffee is a sin is a dangerous cult that should be avoided at all costs.


Isn't it a little early to be drinking?
 
2014-01-24 07:45:53 AM  

no 5th av. in Billings: Weaver95: Any religion that says rum and coffee is a sin is a dangerous cult that should be avoided at all costs.

Isn't it a little early to be drinking?


it's 6pm somewhere in the world.
 
2014-01-24 07:46:09 AM  
Wisconsin slams another shot and laughs.
 
2014-01-24 07:46:59 AM  

Weaver95: Any religion that says rum and coffee is a sin is a dangerous cult that should be avoided at all costs.


You can extend that to include any religion that bans bacon or cheeseburgers. Dangerous and creepy.
 
2014-01-24 07:47:24 AM  
I would like to warn against "stupidity culture" where dumbasses think they are better than you and end up acting like morons.
 
2014-01-24 07:47:27 AM  
That any legitimacy or consideration is given to the Mormon religion, one invented by a convicted criminal in the clear view of recent recorded history, is a great failing of humankind.
 
2014-01-24 07:47:45 AM  

no 5th av. in Billings: Weaver95: Any religion that says rum and coffee is a sin is a dangerous cult that should be avoided at all costs.

Isn't it a little early to be drinking?


You know I've seen each of those words individually, but I don't think I've ever seen them arranged in a sentence like that.
 
2014-01-24 07:48:55 AM  

no 5th av. in Billings: Weaver95: Any religion that says rum and coffee is a sin is a dangerous cult that should be avoided at all costs.

Isn't it a little early to be drinking?


never
 
2014-01-24 07:49:03 AM  

Mad Scientist: That any legitimacy or consideration is given to the Mormon religionScientology, one invented by a convicted criminal in the clear view of recent recorded history, is a great failing of humankind.


And in another 50 years, we'll have a newly invented brand of idiocy.
 
2014-01-24 07:50:14 AM  
Ahead of the upcoming legislative session, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints posted to its website a hefty multimedia policy statement urging lawmakers to uphold rules that church leaders say are "closely tied to the moral culture of the state".

Shut up, you cockscultists.
 
2014-01-24 07:51:22 AM  

Professor Farksworth: no 5th av. in Billings: Weaver95: Any religion that says rum and coffee is a sin is a dangerous cult that should be avoided at all costs.

Isn't it a little early to be drinking?

You know I've seen each of those words individually, but I don't think I've ever seen them arranged in a sentence like that.


Fark needs a "chortle" button
 
2014-01-24 07:51:58 AM  
We've got a reasonable system and it seems to be working

No you don't and no it isn't.
 
2014-01-24 07:52:29 AM  
Welcome to Utah.
Oh, and abandon hope, all ye boozers who enter.
 
2014-01-24 07:53:45 AM  
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2014-01-24 07:54:48 AM  

t3knomanser: Weaver95: Any religion that says rum and coffee is a sin is a dangerous cult that should be avoided at all costs.

You can extend that to include any religion that bans bacon or cheeseburgers. Dangerous and creepy.


ok, I can follow you on this one.  so valid religions must like coffee, rum, bacon AND cheeseburgers.  any spiritual belief system that denies the deliciousness of the previously listed foods is to be considered a dangerous cult and avoided like the plague.  and also - rum is holy water.  use it wisely!
 
2014-01-24 07:57:57 AM  
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Here's to staying the fark out of Utah
 
2014-01-24 07:58:51 AM  
Culture warns other of Utah-based cult.
 
2014-01-24 08:02:42 AM  
It stuck out to me right away that booze (beer) advertising in Utah gas stations was noticeably more "over the top" than other places I've been. Really bolstered the disappointment  in seeing it was 3.2 beer. Maybe this needs more warning.
/dnrtfa
 
2014-01-24 08:06:01 AM  

no 5th av. in Billings: It stuck out to me right away that booze (beer) advertising in Utah gas stations was noticeably more "over the top" than other places I've been. Really bolstered the disappointment  in seeing it was 3.2 beer. Maybe this needs more warning.
/dnrtfa


A state swathed in a "faith" that was come up by a con man who swore by plates written in a special language that only he could see is banking on its residents' not reading? Why am I not shocked?
 
2014-01-24 08:12:17 AM  
1. Everyone has the right to voice an opinion. Even those who belong to a church.
2. Everyone has the right to vote, even those who are religious.
3. The Mormon church does not threaten politicians to vote a certain way. Harry Reid is a Mormon, you would think that he would have been drummed out of the LDS church by your strict-cult based insinuations.
4. Kuddos to Utah for voting for things that are clean and good for the overall public.
 
2014-01-24 08:12:19 AM  
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dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
 
2014-01-24 08:13:28 AM  

EyeballKid: ..."faith" that was come up by a con man...


As opposed to faith that was created by an honest individual who provided considerable data that was able to sway adherents by reason?
 
2014-01-24 08:14:56 AM  

Weaver95: and also - rum is holy water.  use it wisely!


Oh, brother, I have sinned! The first time I ever got drunk, it was on rum. That wasn't the sin. This was also the first time I had been drinking, so with know knowledge of the subject, I established a baseline that roughly 5oz of rum was a basic serving size. Over time, I developed my tolerance up to coffee mugs full of rum. One night, I was at a party, and saw, "Hey, rum! And coffee mugs! I know what to do here!" So I grabbed the bottle of rum, loaded it into a coffee mug, and didn't think twice about why this bottle of rum had a weird little metal grille on top, or what the meaning of the number "151" on the side was.

The next morning I had to get up at around sunrise and drive  east for two hours. It was one of the  worst days in my life up to that point.

In any case, back to ragging on Mormons, we should all have a shot of rum in honor of Lucy Harris, who knew what was up with Mormonism.
 
2014-01-24 08:17:28 AM  
Close call.

Mormons are only slightly less annoying than drunks.
 
2014-01-24 08:18:58 AM  

veedeevadeevoodee:


Tried that on a layover, it's a shiatty beer with a good name.
 
2014-01-24 08:20:09 AM  

skozlaw: EyeballKid: ..."faith" that was come up by a con man...

As opposed to faith that was created by an honest individual who provided considerable data that was able to sway adherents by reason?



True that, but nonetheless there is a notable difference. I can say that any other faith is just as half-assed and convoluted in its mythmaking as the LDS, but that's the only one, other than Scientology, where there are actual records of the founder -- an actual criminal record! -- upon which you can make assessments and such. It's not like we have a record of some fat kid named Siddartha claiming his attempts to reach oneness kept him from going to work or paying child support or the like. The older faiths have, at least, some sort of vagueness and lack of a central figure who actually propagated said faith. This is not the case with Scientology or Mormonism. And I can't help but find that kind of faith especially stupid.
 
2014-01-24 08:21:33 AM  

rev. dave: I would like to warn against "stupidity culture" where dumbasses think they are better than you and end up acting like morons.


Like you just did?
 
2014-01-24 08:27:55 AM  
Dear Religious Asshats,

It's nice that your crazy cult wants you to abstain from alcohol. I'm glad you are abstaining.
I, however, am not a follower of your faith. I will never be a follower of your faith. There are lots of people who aren't followers of your faith. We do not wish to abstain.
Stop trying to make us.

xoxoxo

The Rest of Us
 
2014-01-24 08:28:24 AM  
Just because you don't drink does mean you can't have fun.  You can always spy on your roommate and narc him out if he slips
 
2014-01-24 08:28:45 AM  
And THIS is why you can't have an NFL or MLB team.
 
2014-01-24 08:30:45 AM  
ogdensown.com
 
2014-01-24 08:33:34 AM  
Can I have a couple of beers on the weekend and still look down on my coworkers who mostly talk about how drunk they wish they were right now?
 
2014-01-24 08:33:56 AM  
The problem with people who deliberately avoid drinking for moral or religious reasons is that they ascribe nearly magical and illogical properties to alcohol - I saw this happen in Utah quite a bit when I lived there.  If you've had a single beer, you're unfit to drive six hours later, for example.  If you taste alcohol, you'll become addicted to it.  That sort of thing.  It makes their moral argument hard to listen to, kind of like their moral argument on sexual abstinence; they might both originate from a legitimate concern for their fellows' spiritual health, but somewhere along the way they've created a bizarre and logic-free anti-fetish that does a lot more harm than good.
 
2014-01-24 08:34:10 AM  

no 5th av. in Billings: Weaver95: Any religion that says rum and coffee is a sin is a dangerous cult that should be avoided at all costs.

Isn't it a little early to be drinking?


Not if you consider it an extension of last night's drinking.
 
2014-01-24 08:34:33 AM  
I don't trust any Christians that don't drink for "religious" reasons. It's fine if you don't want to drink because you never personally liked alcohol. If you quit because you were an alcoholic and you do terrible things while drunk, by all means, don't drink. But when the mythical founder of your religion has two defining events that revolve around making sure everyone had some wine, you can't farking tell me that you don't drink because your faith is against alcohol.
 
2014-01-24 08:37:15 AM  

kroonermanblack: Like you just did?


Hmmm.... the Mormons are certainly judging themselves morally superior to individuals who imbibe alcohol, are they not? Is that not the entire basis of this discussion? That certainly seems to satisfy his implication that the Mormons believes themselves to be better than everyone else. And they're using the power of the state to enforce their personal values on the entire populace even though it's a strictly moral judgment.

What's your problem with his comment, then? Seems perfectly accurate, if a bit inelegant.
 
2014-01-24 08:40:41 AM  

kbronsito: I don't trust any Christians that don't drink for "religious" reasons. It's fine if you don't want to drink because you never personally liked alcohol. If you quit because you were an alcoholic and you do terrible things while drunk, by all means, don't drink. But when the mythical founder of your religion has two defining events that revolve around making sure everyone had some wine, you can't farking tell me that you don't drink because your faith is against alcohol.


There's something in there about "seed bearing plants" and their uses that tends to get glossed over somehow too.
 
mhd
2014-01-24 08:41:11 AM  

kbronsito: But when the mythical founder of your religion has two defining events that revolve around making sure everyone had some wine, you can't farking tell me that you don't drink because your faith is against alcohol.


On the other hand, make sure that your young'ins don't see you naked after you passed out drunk.
 
2014-01-24 08:42:16 AM  

Cheron: You can always spy on your roommate and narc him out if he slips


The soldier in that video is shouldering a Yugoslavian SKS. Mormons are Communists!
 
DVD
2014-01-24 08:42:54 AM  
"No" Farkers in Utah?  Umm... What?  On the contrary, I'd say the attempts at driving out the Utah and/or Mormon Farkers hasn't been entirely successful.

Also, 2nd post, Onkel Buck, is that Benedict Cumberbatch on his first morning in Utah?
 
2014-01-24 08:44:20 AM  

kbronsito: It's fine if you don't want to drink because you never personally liked alcohol.


Pfft. You're the only one on the planet okay with that. Drinkers are by far the more annoying evangelists.

"You don't drink? You must be religious. Or an alcoholic. Or a snooty moralist. Are you sure you don't want a drink? Here, have a drink! You're just a lightweight! C'mon, have a drink. Jeez, something's wrong with that guy, he doesn't drink! Here, let me buy you a drink!"
 
2014-01-24 08:45:53 AM  

mhd: kbronsito: But when the mythical founder of your religion has two defining events that revolve around making sure everyone had some wine, you can't farking tell me that you don't drink because your faith is against alcohol.

On the other hand, make sure that your young'ins don't see you naked after you passed out drunk.


shiat happens when you party naked
-Noah
 
2014-01-24 08:47:39 AM  
Mark Twain penned a great book report on the book of mormon.

http://www.mrm.org/topics/documents-speeches/mark-twains-review-book -m ormon
 
2014-01-24 08:49:23 AM  
Right....because nobody drinks in Utah.

/although to be fair it isn't about stopping people from drinking or promoting healthy life choices it's about making sure that you know, that by taking a drink of alcohol, that you're a bad person.
 
2014-01-24 08:56:03 AM  
You know who else is Mormon?
wpmedia.o.canada.com
 
2014-01-24 08:56:46 AM  

nekom: Mark Twain penned a great book report on the book of mormon.

http://www.mrm.org/topics/documents-speeches/mark-twains-review-book -m ormon


lol, awesome.
 
2014-01-24 09:01:25 AM  
As a Utah farker, I'm getting a kick out of these replies...

There is some good news. We have a handful of large-ish, award-winning production breweries and they all have brewpubs, taprooms, growler fills, or sell directly at the brewery. We also have a great distillery in Park City.  The bad news is selection is terrible and there are not enough state liquors stores to make shopping convenient.

The societal culture supports a change in the laws to be less restrictive, but the religious culture rules all around here. If anyone seriously believes the Church doesn't heavily influence voting, they're kidding themselves.
 
2014-01-24 09:12:25 AM  
it's gotta come out somewhere. You suppress caffeine, alcohol, any pleasurable substances, pornography, homosexuality, cursing, gender equality, etc, etc, etc.

You get a mess of human repression. For instance, the founder of Cleanflix was found to be fond of underage girls and a pervert. This should surprise nobody.
 
2014-01-24 09:15:04 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: kbronsito: It's fine if you don't want to drink because you never personally liked alcohol.

Pfft. You're the only one on the planet okay with that. Drinkers are by far the more annoying evangelists.

"You don't drink? You must be religious. Or an alcoholic. Or a snooty moralist. Are you sure you don't want a drink? Here, have a drink! You're just a lightweight! C'mon, have a drink. Jeez, something's wrong with that guy, he doesn't drink! Here, let me buy you a drink!"


You're right, that is annoying. I bet it wasn't that way during prohibition!
Hey wait a minute...
 
2014-01-24 09:17:16 AM  

Astorix: For instance, the founder of Cleanflix was found to be fond of underage girls and a pervert.


Which pervert was the founder fond of?
 
2014-01-24 09:17:25 AM  
Utah has some really nice ski resorts and a beautiful desert.  The rest of the state is a wasteland.
 
2014-01-24 09:22:02 AM  
No farkers in UT?  Check my profile.


/love the SL,UT shot glass
 
2014-01-24 09:28:20 AM  

Unobtanium: It has been awhile, but I went to SLC a few times on business trips before the Winter Olympics. I found two decent brewpubs and one even sold and filled growlers.


Any beer on tap here falls under the 3.2% abw law....."strong" beer must be sold in bottle form only. You have to plan your drinking here, which IIRC is one of the signs of being an alcoholic.....why are you making me an alcoholic utah?
 
2014-01-24 09:39:08 AM  

EyeballKid: skozlaw: EyeballKid: ..."faith" that was come up by a con man...

As opposed to faith that was created by an honest individual who provided considerable data that was able to sway adherents by reason?


True that, but nonetheless there is a notable difference. I can say that any other faith is just as half-assed and convoluted in its mythmaking as the LDS, but that's the only one, other than Scientology, where there are actual records of the founder -- an actual criminal record! -- upon which you can make assessments and such. It's not like we have a record of some fat kid named Siddartha claiming his attempts to reach oneness kept him from going to work or paying child support or the like. The older faiths have, at least, some sort of vagueness and lack of a central figure who actually propagated said faith. This is not the case with Scientology or Mormonism. And I can't help but find that kind of faith especially stupid.


Regarding your HE WAS CONVICTED DONT BELIEVE!!!

1. He was tried many times on many things that people who didn't like him made up. Haters gonna hate I suppose, but simply because your society dislikes you doesn't mean that it should be proof that you were wrong. I can think of many famous historical figures who were tried on trumped up charges.

2. There were only two things, it is said, that he was actually "convicted of".

a. Glass Looking/money digger - he was tried many times for this and found not guilty, because the charges were trumped up. The only time they got a conviction on this for him was when he said that he divined who what and where money was stolen from the plaintiff 16yrs earlier and the plaintiff said it was a true divination. Therefore the court convicted him. By today's standard the whole thing would have been thrown entirely as wasting the courts time. Truly, as you say, a convicted con man! -.-

2. Bank Fraud - in US history at that time, banks would issue and back their own currency. Not being able to secure a bank charter from Ohio legislature (speculation abounds on both sides as to why), they set up a Quasi bank, that required no bank charter which was a common practice for those who wanted to have bank like services in their community.

Many Banks failed in the economic panic of 1837, this "bank" in Kirtland was no acception. Investors got angry and four sued for restitution claiming illegal bank status. Oddly enough, those who were in charge of the bank had charges dropped by the plaintiffs but decided to continue to press charges against the cashier, Joseph Smith, they said he promised the bank was divined by God there was no evidence of this. Please please don't tell me he was running the banksmart enough to run a bank he only had a second grade education, anyone talking to him was able to quickly discern that fact and would not have invested in a bank if HE was the one running it.

3. If you consider yourself Christian and discount Joseph Smith outright because of these court proceedings then you are a hypocrit. Moses murdered an Egyptian as is said in Exodus, so by your logic he is a false prophet and should be ignored and derided.
 
2014-01-24 09:39:23 AM  

kbronsito: mhd: kbronsito: But when the mythical founder of your religion has two defining events that revolve around making sure everyone had some wine, you can't farking tell me that you don't drink because your faith is against alcohol.

On the other hand, make sure that your young'ins don't see you naked after you passed out drunk.

shiat happens when you party naked
-Noah



"You said it, brah!"
-- Lot
 
2014-01-24 09:42:51 AM  

1nsanilicious: Moses murdered an Egyptian as is said in Exodus, so by your logic he is a false prophet and should be ignored and derided.



So far as we know, Joseph Smith actually existed.
Based on the evidence, Moses is a fictional character.

This doesn't make either of their associated faiths any more authentic or believable, it just makes Moses harder to try and convict.
 
2014-01-24 09:47:09 AM  
Ah Mormons, today's version of the Puritans.
 
2014-01-24 09:48:54 AM  

no 5th av. in Billings: Weaver95: Any religion that says rum and coffee is a sin is a dangerous cult that should be avoided at all costs.

Isn't it a little early to be drinking?




I'm sitting in SLC as we speak. I sit down for an eggs benny and a bloody and guess what? No booze in the airport until 8am (11am for the rest of the state). Seriously Fark this place. I've been working in the northern suburbs of Salt Lake for a few months. The flight home for the weekend is the only highlight of being here. Bars sucks, 3.2% beer on draft only! 3 beers in an hour in restaurants and only 1 per hour after that. Newer restaurants suck since sitting in the bar is boring as hell. Bartenders make drinks/pour behind the Zion's curtain. Fark this ghey ass place.

/Park City is ok though
//went to two movies at Sundance this week
 
2014-01-24 09:52:53 AM  

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: no 5th av. in Billings: Weaver95: Any religion that says rum and coffee is a sin is a dangerous cult that should be avoided at all costs.

Isn't it a little early to be drinking?

I'm sitting in SLC as we speak. I sit down for an eggs benny and a bloody and guess what? No booze in the airport until 8am (11am for the rest of the state). Seriously Fark this place. I've been working in the northern suburbs of Salt Lake for a few months. The flight home for the weekend is the only highlight of being here. Bars sucks, 3.2% beer on draft only! 3 beers in an hour in restaurants and only 1 per hour after that. Newer restaurants suck since sitting in the bar is boring as hell. Bartenders make drinks/pour behind the Zion's curtain. Fark this ghey ass place.

/Park City is ok though
//went to two movies at Sundance this week


Northern suburbs like North Salt Lake or like Centerville/Layton? If you're actually in North Salt Lake City, get down to The Beerhive or The Bayou. You'll find plenty of good beers available (in bottle) that you can't get anywhere else in the state.
 
2014-01-24 09:53:26 AM  

mekkab: No farkers in UT?  Check my profile.


/love the SL,UT shot glass


Me also. And yeah, it is possible to drink here. Hell, I know people coming from the beer snob capital of Bend, OR, and wrinkle their mouths while swilling down some microbrew and mutter "huh....not too bad I guess".
 
2014-01-24 09:56:26 AM  

1nsanilicious: 1. Everyone has the right to voice an opinion. Even those who belong to a church.
2. Everyone has the right to vote, even those who are religious.
3. The Mormon church does not threaten politicians to vote a certain way. Harry Reid is a Mormon, you would think that he would have been drummed out of the LDS church by your strict-cult based insinuations.
4. Kuddos to Utah for voting for things that are clean and good for the overall public.


Pull the special underwear out of your ass and chill out.  Not everyone on the internet, or even in real life, needs to like or agree with your religion.

And the issue isn't whether or not religious people can vote, the issue is really is whether or not religious people should be able to impose their beliefs and practices on other people.  Obviously, you think you should, but many of us disagree.  Good for you that you all don't drink and abstain from consuming other chemicals/hot drinks--I'm sure that's a positive for your community.  But I, and many other people, believe that other people, who don't practice your religion, shouldn't be legally forced to follow its rules.

Do you see how that works?  I mean this as a legitimate question, because a lot of religious adherents don't seem to understand.  I'm not a Mormon, so I'd like to drink.  I'm not a Mormon, so I'd like to drink coffee.  I'm not a Mormon, so I'd also like to be gay and get married.  And I think that I should be allowed to do those things, because one religion's rules shouldn't get preferential treatment under the law.  That's really what we're talking about here, and the very public attempts to legislate other people's behaviors based on your religion is why a lot of people don't like your religion very much these days.

You're free to follow your religion's rules.  I should be free to follow my own religion's (or lack thereof) rules.  This is America, and that's how it should be.  Because let's face it--without the baked-in religious freedom of this country's founding, you guys never would have made it to being the established, organized, and influential body that you are today.  So respect the laws that helped you, and extend that courtesy to others.
 
2014-01-24 10:04:09 AM  

Cheron: Just because you don't drink does mean you can't have fun.  You can always spy on your roommate and narc him out if he slips


I just watched the video you linked and I have to say...
...keeping in mind that I am a super mega butch lesbian, who is married to another woman, and who until recently lived in Berkeley, and one of my very good friends is a man who cruises grindr and has the hook from Brittany Spear's "Toxic" as his ringtone...
...that is one of the gayest things I have ever seen.

/It's just a mormon student video about ratting on your friends when they fall off the morality wagon because "you don't leave a fellow soldier behind in the morality war."
//Worth a watch, pretty entertaining.  Completely SFW.
///Shockingly high production values for what it is.
 
2014-01-24 10:06:25 AM  
making beer right here in park city ;-)
 
2014-01-24 10:15:04 AM  
I am headed to Moab in late Feb for some mt biking. Plan to bring beer with me.
 
2014-01-24 10:15:11 AM  

ckccfa: 1nsanilicious: 1. Everyone has the right to voice an opinion. Even those who belong to a church.
2. Everyone has the right to vote, even those who are religious.
3. The Mormon church does not threaten politicians to vote a certain way. Harry Reid is a Mormon, you would think that he would have been drummed out of the LDS church by your strict-cult based insinuations.
4. Kuddos to Utah for voting for things that are clean and good for the overall public.

Pull the special underwear out of your ass and chill out.  Not everyone on the internet, or even in real life, needs to like or agree with your religion.

And the issue isn't whether or not religious people can vote, the issue is really is whether or not religious people should be able to impose their beliefs and practices on other people.  Obviously, you think you should, but many of us disagree.  Good for you that you all don't drink and abstain from consuming other chemicals/hot drinks--I'm sure that's a positive for your community.  But I, and many other people, believe that other people, who don't practice your religion, shouldn't be legally forced to follow its rules.

Do you see how that works?  I mean this as a legitimate question, because a lot of religious adherents don't seem to understand.  I'm not a Mormon, so I'd like to drink.  I'm not a Mormon, so I'd like to drink coffee.  I'm not a Mormon, so I'd also like to be gay and get married.  And I think that I should be allowed to do those things, because one religion's rules shouldn't get preferential treatment under the law.  That's really what we're talking about here, and the very public attempts to legislate other people's behaviors based on your religion is why a lot of people don't like your religion very much these days.

You're free to follow your religion's rules.  I should be free to follow my own religion's (or lack thereof) rules.  This is America, and that's how it should be.  Because let's face it--without the baked-in religious freedom of t ...


You're talking to a Mormon troll who has in the past has defended Mormons murdering people, molesting kids, abandoning children, and any other thing any Mormon has done anywhere.   There's a good possibility he's not even Mormon and just a dick.
 
2014-01-24 10:23:13 AM  

cr7pilot: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: no 5th av. in Billings: Weaver95: Any religion that says rum and coffee is a sin is a dangerous cult that should be avoided at all costs.

Isn't it a little early to be drinking?

I'm sitting in SLC as we speak. I sit down for an eggs benny and a bloody and guess what? No booze in the airport until 8am (11am for the rest of the state). Seriously Fark this place. I've been working in the northern suburbs of Salt Lake for a few months. The flight home for the weekend is the only highlight of being here. Bars sucks, 3.2% beer on draft only! 3 beers in an hour in restaurants and only 1 per hour after that. Newer restaurants suck since sitting in the bar is boring as hell. Bartenders make drinks/pour behind the Zion's curtain. Fark this ghey ass place.

/Park City is ok though
//went to two movies at Sundance this week

Northern suburbs like North Salt Lake or like Centerville/Layton? If you're actually in North Salt Lake City, get down to The Beerhive or The Bayou. You'll find plenty of good beers available (in bottle) that you can't get anywhere else in the state.


My current client is in Roy, and I work from home (WA State) half the time and on site half the time.  My hotel is in Layton.  It's not as easy as back home to stock up but they do have state liquor stores, and last Sunday I needed beer to go with the wings for the NFC game (go Hawks) and walked down the street to a brewpub to get a growler filled.  There are barriers, true, but if you really gotta enjoy (and who doesn't now and then?) it's not impossible.
 
2014-01-24 10:23:24 AM  
www.sltrib.com
 
2014-01-24 10:23:47 AM  
Utah.

#1 in porn subscriptions
#1 in prescription drug abuse
#1 in hypocrisy

Congratulations.
 
2014-01-24 10:25:56 AM  

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: no 5th av. in Billings: Weaver95: Any religion that says rum and coffee is a sin is a dangerous cult that should be avoided at all costs.

Isn't it a little early to be drinking?

I'm sitting in SLC as we speak. I sit down for an eggs benny and a bloody and guess what? No booze in the airport until 8am (11am for the rest of the state). Seriously Fark this place. I've been working in the northern suburbs of Salt Lake for a few months. The flight home for the weekend is the only highlight of being here. Bars sucks, 3.2% beer on draft only! 3 beers in an hour in restaurants and only 1 per hour after that. Newer restaurants suck since sitting in the bar is boring as hell. Bartenders make drinks/pour behind the Zion's curtain. Fark this ghey ass place.

/Park City is ok though
//went to two movies at Sundance this week


Moab was cool, otherwise I have no use for UT. It was a letdown seeing this everywhere:
ICE COLD BEER 3.2%
 
2014-01-24 10:27:16 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: You're talking to a Mormon troll who has in the past has defended Mormons murdering people, molesting kids, abandoning children, and any other thing any Mormon has done anywhere.   There's a good possibility he's not even Mormon and just a dick.


I know, I'm just bored this morning, and I've been trying to wean myself off my rage addiction by avoiding the politics tab.


/One day at a time
 
2014-01-24 10:33:26 AM  

monoski: I am headed to Moab in late Feb for some mt biking. Plan to bring beer with me.


If you are not already aware, and I'm sure farkers will disagree, Moab in February is not conducive to beer drinking weather.
 
2014-01-24 10:41:38 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-01-24 11:21:45 AM  
As a double bock, it's pretty crappy, but as an ex-Mormon, I love the artwork.

www.beertripper.com
 
msP
2014-01-24 11:30:02 AM  

ChubbyTiger: It's their state, they can do what they want with it. You don't have to live there.

/no, I do not extend that theory to every issue


That's true, but some of the best skiing in this country is in Utah, and I'll spare you the reasons why, but it's the only place my family skiis. It's a huge pain in the ass that we have to rush straight from the airport to the liquor store when we get there because they close at like 5pm and aren't open on Sundays (we usually get there on Saturday).

I remember when we used to go (I guess before 2009 based on what the article said) when restaurants had to sell you a "membership" so you could drink there. If the alcohol flowed freely, I'm sure people in those areas would make a shiat ton more money. 

It comes down to the fact that consuming (or not consuming) alcohol is a personal choice and should not be left to the state to decide if consenting adults can or can't get access to it. (I also think the 21 age restriction in the US is ludicrous as well).
 
2014-01-24 11:35:29 AM  

1nsanilicious: Kuddos to Utah for voting for things that are clean and good for the overall public.


HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
 
2014-01-24 11:36:39 AM  

skozlaw: EyeballKid: ..."faith" that was come up by a con man...

As opposed to faith that was created by an honest individual who provided considerable data that was able to sway adherents by reason?


If it is knowable, if you can show it to other people and prove it, it's no longer faith. Faith is not needed for what you know to be true and can prove. That's called knowledge.
 
2014-01-24 11:38:22 AM  

Lochsteppe: The problem with people who deliberately avoid drinking for moral or religious reasons is that they ascribe nearly magical and illogical properties to alcohol - I saw this happen in Utah quite a bit when I lived there.  If you've had a single beer, you're unfit to drive six hours later, for example.  If you taste alcohol, you'll become addicted to it.  That sort of thing.  It makes their moral argument hard to listen to, kind of like their moral argument on sexual abstinence; they might both originate from a legitimate concern for their fellows' spiritual health, but somewhere along the way they've created a bizarre and logic-free anti-fetish that does a lot more harm than good.


Extend this thought to anybody who does anything for religious reasons. Oh, you can't think for yourself why you should or shouldn't do 'x'? That's a bizarre way of going about life, and please don't try to drag me into it.
 
2014-01-24 11:38:26 AM  

nekom: Mark Twain penned a great book report on the book of mormon.

http://www.mrm.org/topics/documents-speeches/mark-twains-review-book -m ormon


That was awesome.  If there was one figure from history I could sit down with for a pint and a smoke, it would be Samuel Clemens.
 
2014-01-24 12:05:58 PM  

praxcelis: cr7pilot: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: no 5th av. in Billings: Weaver95: Any religion that says rum and coffee is a sin is a dangerous cult that should be avoided at all costs.

Northern suburbs like North Salt Lake or like Centerville/Layton? If you're actually in North Salt Lake City, get down to The Beerhive or The Bayou. You'll find plenty of good beers available (in bottle) that you can't get anywhere else in the state.

My current client is in Roy, and I work from home (WA State) half the time and on site half the time.  My hotel is in Layton.  It's not as easy as back home to stock up but they do have state liquor stores, and last Sunday I needed beer to go with the wings for the NFC game (go Hawks) and walked down the street to a brewpub to get a growler filled.  There are barriers, true, but if you really gotta enjoy (and who doesn't now and then?) it's not impossible.


Well, too bad about Roy. Layton's OK, I suppose, though I try to never go north of downtown if I can help it. Glad you were able to find something to drink at least.
 
2014-01-24 12:09:42 PM  

BunkyBrewman: Utah.

#1 in porn subscriptions
#1 in prescription drug abuse
#1 in hypocrisy

Congratulations.


Also #1 in child sex abuse
 
2014-01-24 12:18:31 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Lochsteppe: The problem with people who deliberately avoid drinking for moral or religious reasons is that they ascribe nearly magical and illogical properties to alcohol - I saw this happen in Utah quite a bit when I lived there.  If you've had a single beer, you're unfit to drive six hours later, for example.  If you taste alcohol, you'll become addicted to it.  That sort of thing.  It makes their moral argument hard to listen to, kind of like their moral argument on sexual abstinence; they might both originate from a legitimate concern for their fellows' spiritual health, but somewhere along the way they've created a bizarre and logic-free anti-fetish that does a lot more harm than good.

Extend this thought to anybody who does anything for religious reasons. Oh, you can't think for yourself why you should or shouldn't do 'x'? That's a bizarre way of going about life, and please don't try to drag me into it.


so when churches or religious people do charity......?

People, not just religious people, have a lot of preferences that they would like to force on others(political alignment, choice of entertainment, etc) and sometimes they have very good reasons for those preferences but most of the time they aren't based on logic or rationality. Lochsteppe's explanation can be used to explain "atheists" like Richard Dawkins as easily as Mormons who oppose alcohol.
 
2014-01-24 12:25:09 PM  
What kind of alcohol drinker moves to Utah anyway.

It's no secret that Utah has crazy alcohol restrictions.
 
2014-01-24 12:43:23 PM  
Just wondering why this is news in Australia?
 
2014-01-24 12:46:40 PM  

StrikitRich: Just wondering why this is news in Australia?


That's upside down thinking right there.
 
2014-01-24 01:08:42 PM  

cr7pilot: As a Utah farker, I'm getting a kick out of these replies...

There is some good news. We have a handful of large-ish, award-winning production breweries and they all have brewpubs, taprooms, growler fills, or sell directly at the brewery. We also have a great distillery in Park City.  The bad news is selection is terrible and there are not enough state liquors stores to make shopping convenient.

The societal culture supports a change in the laws to be less restrictive, but the religious culture rules all around here. If anyone seriously believes the Church doesn't heavily influence voting, they're kidding themselves.


as a fellow Utah Farker, albiet a transplant, THIS
//non-drinker, not LDS, and STILL think the Alcohol laws in this state are absurd
 
2014-01-24 01:10:30 PM  
Driving through Utah is actual hell.

Took a trip west from the east coast to handle some beeswax, and picked up my sister in LV, and went through Utah before touching the golden coast.

Hours of nothing, exit after exit with no amenities. Hope to God you don't break down, because it would be emprahknows how long before you could get help, if you could even get a signal.

And utah mormons are superior to any other mormons, they will be sure to let you know your place.
 
2014-01-24 01:20:41 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: If it is knowable, if you can show it to other people and prove it, it's no longer faith. Faith is not needed for what you know to be true and can prove. That's called knowledge.


Uh... yea.... that was kind of the point.
 
2014-01-24 01:33:04 PM  

Nacc: Hours of nothing, exit after exit with no amenities. Hope to God you don't break down, because it would be emprahknows how long before you could get help, if you could even get a signal.


Yeah......it's farking GREAT.
 
2014-01-24 02:26:28 PM  

cr7pilot: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: no 5th av. in Billings: Weaver95: Any religion that says rum and coffee is a sin is a dangerous cult that should be avoided at all costs.

Isn't it a little early to be drinking?

I'm sitting in SLC as we speak. I sit down for an eggs benny and a bloody and guess what? No booze in the airport until 8am (11am for the rest of the state). Seriously Fark this place. I've been working in the northern suburbs of Salt Lake for a few months. The flight home for the weekend is the only highlight of being here. Bars sucks, 3.2% beer on draft only! 3 beers in an hour in restaurants and only 1 per hour after that. Newer restaurants suck since sitting in the bar is boring as hell. Bartenders make drinks/pour behind the Zion's curtain. Fark this ghey ass place.

/Park City is ok though
//went to two movies at Sundance this week

Northern suburbs like North Salt Lake or like Centerville/Layton? If you're actually in North Salt Lake City, get down to The Beerhive or The Bayou. You'll find plenty of good beers available (in bottle) that you can't get anywhere else in the state.


Yup, Layton. I'll head down and check out your suggestions. I usually work M-Th but farking Delta cancelled the 4:50pm to PDX during the week. So I either have to take the 10pm (which is awful & I get home at midnight) or I chose the Friday 8:35am. Never been leaving SLC so early and had no idea about the 8am restriction. I always get a drink on the flight home, it like tradition. /end rant

/I'll check those bars out next week, thx!
 
2014-01-24 03:15:57 PM  
Church. State.

See how those two are  different words, Mormons? Yeah...they're supposed to stay that way.
 
2014-01-24 03:40:31 PM  

praxcelis: cr7pilot: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: no 5th av. in Billings: Weaver95: Any religion that says rum and coffee is a sin is a dangerous cult that should be avoided at all costs.

Isn't it a little early to be drinking?

I'm sitting in SLC as we speak. I sit down for an eggs benny and a bloody and guess what? No booze in the airport until 8am (11am for the rest of the state). Seriously Fark this place. I've been working in the northern suburbs of Salt Lake for a few months. The flight home for the weekend is the only highlight of being here. Bars sucks, 3.2% beer on draft only! 3 beers in an hour in restaurants and only 1 per hour after that. Newer restaurants suck since sitting in the bar is boring as hell. Bartenders make drinks/pour behind the Zion's curtain. Fark this ghey ass place.

/Park City is ok though
//went to two movies at Sundance this week

Northern suburbs like North Salt Lake or like Centerville/Layton? If you're actually in North Salt Lake City, get down to The Beerhive or The Bayou. You'll find plenty of good beers available (in bottle) that you can't get anywhere else in the state.

My current client is in Roy, and I work from home (WA State) half the time and on site half the time.  My hotel is in Layton.  It's not as easy as back home to stock up but they do have state liquor stores, and last Sunday I needed beer to go with the wings for the NFC game (go Hawks) and walked down the street to a brewpub to get a growler filled.  There are barriers, true, but if you really gotta enjoy (and who doesn't now and then?) it's not impossible.


Did you get it filled at Roosters? I stay at the Hilton Garden Inn next door when I'm in Layton every other week. It's pretty sad when the hotel bar is one of the more happening spots in town, Fahrenheit is ok but wow Layton is boring.
 
2014-01-24 03:57:29 PM  

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: praxcelis: cr7pilot: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: no 5th av. in Billings: Weaver95: Any religion that says rum and coffee is a sin is a dangerous cult that should be avoided at all costs.

Isn't it a little early to be drinking?

I'm sitting in SLC as we speak. I sit down for an eggs benny and a bloody and guess what? No booze in the airport until 8am (11am for the rest of the state). Seriously Fark this place. I've been working in the northern suburbs of Salt Lake for a few months. The flight home for the weekend is the only highlight of being here. Bars sucks, 3.2% beer on draft only! 3 beers in an hour in restaurants and only 1 per hour after that. Newer restaurants suck since sitting in the bar is boring as hell. Bartenders make drinks/pour behind the Zion's curtain. Fark this ghey ass place.

/Park City is ok though
//went to two movies at Sundance this week

Northern suburbs like North Salt Lake or like Centerville/Layton? If you're actually in North Salt Lake City, get down to The Beerhive or The Bayou. You'll find plenty of good beers available (in bottle) that you can't get anywhere else in the state.

My current client is in Roy, and I work from home (WA State) half the time and on site half the time.  My hotel is in Layton.  It's not as easy as back home to stock up but they do have state liquor stores, and last Sunday I needed beer to go with the wings for the NFC game (go Hawks) and walked down the street to a brewpub to get a growler filled.  There are barriers, true, but if you really gotta enjoy (and who doesn't now and then?) it's not impossible.

Did you get it filled at Roosters? I stay at the Hilton Garden Inn next door when I'm in Layton every other week. It's pretty sad when the hotel bar is one of the more happening spots in town, Fahrenheit is ok but wow Layton is boring.


Yep.  Roosters is a frequent stop when I'm in town, mostly because I can get growler service even on a Sunday.  I stay at one of the Marriott places down the road.  You're right about it being a pretty quiet place.  On weekends I'll go hike around Antelope or drive up to Ogden just to get out of town.  I keep meaning to go do the High West tour but haven't gotten around to it yet.
 
2014-01-24 04:11:35 PM  

praxcelis: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: praxcelis: cr7pilot: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: no 5th av. in Billings: Weaver95: Any religion that says rum and coffee is a sin is a dangerous cult that should be avoided at all costs.

Isn't it a little early to be drinking?

I'm sitting in SLC as we speak. I sit down for an eggs benny and a bloody and guess what? No booze in the airport until 8am (11am for the rest of the state). Seriously Fark this place. I've been working in the northern suburbs of Salt Lake for a few months. The flight home for the weekend is the only highlight of being here. Bars sucks, 3.2% beer on draft only! 3 beers in an hour in restaurants and only 1 per hour after that. Newer restaurants suck since sitting in the bar is boring as hell. Bartenders make drinks/pour behind the Zion's curtain. Fark this ghey ass place.

/Park City is ok though
//went to two movies at Sundance this week

Northern suburbs like North Salt Lake or like Centerville/Layton? If you're actually in North Salt Lake City, get down to The Beerhive or The Bayou. You'll find plenty of good beers available (in bottle) that you can't get anywhere else in the state.

My current client is in Roy, and I work from home (WA State) half the time and on site half the time.  My hotel is in Layton.  It's not as easy as back home to stock up but they do have state liquor stores, and last Sunday I needed beer to go with the wings for the NFC game (go Hawks) and walked down the street to a brewpub to get a growler filled.  There are barriers, true, but if you really gotta enjoy (and who doesn't now and then?) it's not impossible.

Did you get it filled at Roosters? I stay at the Hilton Garden Inn next door when I'm in Layton every other week. It's pretty sad when the hotel bar is one of the more happening spots in town, Fahrenheit is ok but wow Layton is boring.

Yep.  Roosters is a frequent stop when I'm in town, mostly because I can get growler service even on a Sunday.  I stay at one of the Marriott places down the road.  You're right about it being a pretty quiet place.  On weekends I'll go hike around Antelope or drive up to Ogden just to get out of town.  I keep meaning to go do the High West tour but haven't gotten around to it yet.


Right on- next time we're both in town we should have an informal Fark party. My expense account is pretty generous on this project so the 3.2% beer is on me haha! Cheers.
 
2014-01-24 04:18:24 PM  
It's almost as if Mormons don't trust their flock to not drink. If your little cult is so great, why don't you trust the adherents to follow the tenets?
 
2014-01-24 05:31:25 PM  
There are plenty of Farkers in Utah, not just the baby-making kind.   On a side note, being that outside of liquor stores and bars, the beer is 3.2%...


How is Utah beer like having sex in a canoe?
-It's farking close to water.
 
2014-01-24 06:04:14 PM  

monoski: BunkyBrewman: Utah.

#1 in porn subscriptions
#1 in prescription drug abuse
#1 in hypocrisy

Congratulations.

Also #1 in child sex abuse


I have heard that Utah tops the nation in porn subscriptions. I have also heard that Utah's rate of antidepressant medication use is high. But I don't think you can call that "#1 in prescription drug abuse." I have met my share of hypocritical and holier-than-thou Mormons, most of whom come from the Mountain West area of Utah and Idaho that we call the "Zion Curtain." I would certainly like to see the citation for "#1 in child sex abuse."
 
2014-01-24 06:24:39 PM  

praxcelis: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: praxcelis: cr7pilot: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: no 5th av. in Billings: Weaver95: Any religion that says rum and coffee is a sin is a dangerous cult that should be avoided at all costs.

Isn't it a little early to be drinking?

I'm sitting in SLC as we speak. I sit down for an eggs benny and a bloody and guess what? No booze in the airport until 8am (11am for the rest of the state). Seriously Fark this place. I've been working in the northern suburbs of Salt Lake for a few months. The flight home for the weekend is the only highlight of being here. Bars sucks, 3.2% beer on draft only! 3 beers in an hour in restaurants and only 1 per hour after that. Newer restaurants suck since sitting in the bar is boring as hell. Bartenders make drinks/pour behind the Zion's curtain. Fark this ghey ass place.

/Park City is ok though
//went to two movies at Sundance this week

Northern suburbs like North Salt Lake or like Centerville/Layton? If you're actually in North Salt Lake City, get down to The Beerhive or The Bayou. You'll find plenty of good beers available (in bottle) that you can't get anywhere else in the state.

My current client is in Roy, and I work from home (WA State) half the time and on site half the time.  My hotel is in Layton.  It's not as easy as back home to stock up but they do have state liquor stores, and last Sunday I needed beer to go with the wings for the NFC game (go Hawks) and walked down the street to a brewpub to get a growler filled.  There are barriers, true, but if you really gotta enjoy (and who doesn't now and then?) it's not impossible.

Did you get it filled at Roosters? I stay at the Hilton Garden Inn next door when I'm in Layton every other week. It's pretty sad when the hotel bar is one of the more happening spots in town, Fahrenheit is ok but wow Layton is boring.

Yep.  Roosters is a frequent stop when I'm in town, mostly because I can get growler service even on a Sunday.  I stay at one of the Marriott places down the road.  You're right about it being a pretty quiet place.  On weekends I'll go hike around Antelope or drive up to Ogden just to get out of town.  I keep meaning to go do the High West tour but haven't gotten around to it yet.


When in Ogden, go to the slackwater pizzeria....it's on Washington blvd, right on the bank of the river. They have a pretty sizable selection of full strength beer, and the atmosphere is nice.
 
2014-01-24 06:37:19 PM  

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: praxcelis: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: praxcelis: cr7pilot: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: no 5th av. in Billings: Weaver95: Any religion that says rum and coffee is a sin is a dangerous cult that should be avoided at all costs.

Isn't it a little early to be drinking?

I'm sitting in SLC as we speak. I sit down for an eggs benny and a bloody and guess what? No booze in the airport until 8am (11am for the rest of the state). Seriously Fark this place. I've been working in the northern suburbs of Salt Lake for a few months. The flight home for the weekend is the only highlight of being here. Bars sucks, 3.2% beer on draft only! 3 beers in an hour in restaurants and only 1 per hour after that. Newer restaurants suck since sitting in the bar is boring as hell. Bartenders make drinks/pour behind the Zion's curtain. Fark this ghey ass place.

/Park City is ok though
//went to two movies at Sundance this week

Northern suburbs like North Salt Lake or like Centerville/Layton? If you're actually in North Salt Lake City, get down to The Beerhive or The Bayou. You'll find plenty of good beers available (in bottle) that you can't get anywhere else in the state.

My current client is in Roy, and I work from home (WA State) half the time and on site half the time.  My hotel is in Layton.  It's not as easy as back home to stock up but they do have state liquor stores, and last Sunday I needed beer to go with the wings for the NFC game (go Hawks) and walked down the street to a brewpub to get a growler filled.  There are barriers, true, but if you really gotta enjoy (and who doesn't now and then?) it's not impossible.

Did you get it filled at Roosters? I stay at the Hilton Garden Inn next door when I'm in Layton every other week. It's pretty sad when the hotel bar is one of the more happening spots in town, Fahrenheit is ok but wow Layton is boring.

Yep.  Roosters is a frequent stop when I'm in town, mostly because I can get growler service even on a Sunday.  I stay at one of the Marriott places down the road.  You're right about it being a pretty quiet place.  On weekends I'll go hike around Antelope or drive up to Ogden just to get out of town.  I keep meaning to go do the High West tour but haven't gotten around to it yet.

Right on- next time we're both in town we should have an informal Fark party. My expense account is pretty generous on this project so the 3.2% beer is on me haha! Cheers.


Down town salt lake is almost normal, and has some good spots for drinks/food.
Some notables:
The green pig, poplar street grill, the piano bar, the tavernacle, the garage on beck are all good bar atmosphere type places which have good beer selections and decent drinks....beware, they can sometimes be a bit hipster, but as long as one doesn't brush you with one of their hideously waxed mustaches, you'll be fine.
 
2014-01-24 07:55:00 PM  
Awww, how cute, Utah. Yes, if you're not LDS, you get treated like shiat by the uber fundies.

But overall, when I visited Salt Lake City, guess what. There were PLENTY of bars where shame faced Mormons were boozing it up in the middle of the day.

Even my ultra-conservative aunt was busy drinking coffee and tea, and was extremely pissed when I pointed it out (same person who laid into me and others for having a beer at home). The hypocracy is pretty overwhelming.

And the porn. Holy shiat, while there are not the normal adult bookstores, there ARE the back room ones, and there is plenty of hardcore shiat. Repressed religious girls are a lot of fun.

I also know 2 very active men who are dedicated missionaries in the LDS Church who also both love teh cawk like no tomorrow, but who also actively rage on gay rights. It's a very backward farked up place.
 
2014-01-24 09:06:10 PM  
After moving here from TX, I've found that SLC is actually fairly normal.  Head south to Utah county (referred to as 'the bubble' from the dominance of LDS, BYU etc,) and it's much more annoying - I'm over 50 and they card me there.  The state-run liquor stores are such a cash cow that they're unlikely to loosen the laws.  Best solution is a long weekend in Las Vegas - a 6-hour drive - and load up the SUV there.
 
2014-01-25 02:48:38 AM  
Mormons worried about 'alcohol cult-ure' but no worries about Mormon cult-ure.
 
2014-01-25 05:56:36 AM  

TehMvnk: There are plenty of Farkers in Utah, not just the baby-making kind.   On a side note, being that outside of liquor stores and bars, the beer is 3.2%...

How is Utah beer like having sex in a canoe?
-It's farking close to water.


Don't care much for beer and mostly drink brown ales when I do but,

Is the difference between 3.2 and 3.6 really that big a whoo?

Especially in a Coors or Mich lite that's gotta be a mostly physiological thing.
 
2014-01-25 09:49:52 AM  

zepillin: Is the difference between 3.2 and 3.6 really that big a whoo?


We used to call 3.2 "headache beer". They bubble ether through it to get the right alcohol content.
 
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