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(The Raw Story)   Louisiana Public School District has a novel solution for sixth grader who felt he was being harassed by an evangelical Christian teacher for being a Buddhist: Don't be Buddhist anymore, DUH   (rawstory.com) divider line 86
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2014-01-23 10:33:17 PM
8 votes:
I was raised Buddhist, and all the while, I was exposed to Christianity. I went to my Grandmother's Methodist church, because she went, and it didn't impede my own practice. I went to my Dad's third wife's Baptist church, because it made her happy, and it didn't impede my practice. I went to a high school friend's father's church, because it didn't impede my practice. The Middle Road isn't harmed by exposure to other faiths, but the practice can be impeded by folks who don't understand that practice. You have to set your own boundaries, and listening to folks doesn't harm that practice, in and of itself.

I got a lot of questions. Which, a lifetime of being around Christians had prepared me for. I find a lot about Christian practices actually comforting and reassuring, and certainly, there are many Christians that I call good friends, and whose faith I respect deeply. One of the things that attending a Unitarian Society has taught me over the years, that faiths often share elements, that help define your own faith in their commonality. Specific practices, that gets down to stylistic elements, and dogma, but compassion, forgiveness, charity, extension of kindness, not just to others, but to one's self, those are shared.

I did take the time, when I was in school to actually study the Bible. It didn't affect my own practice, and understanding the faith I found myself surrounded by, it helped me see past the somewhat myopic views of those who prefer to wear their faith as a badge and as a club, and see the beauty within the words of Yahweh's prophets. Wisdom in their teachings. Failings too. The People of the Book, were surrounded by folks, and their own practice came about when they were surrounded by folks who worshiped differently. The early Israelites themselves were polytheistic in their early days, and came to monotheism on a somewhat hard road. Their practice has matured, it has changed, it has grown, and it has endured, and I find a great many of their teachings to have wisdom.

That being said, the schools need to nip this sh*t in the bud. This is a public school, not a private school. Folks want to send their children into a private setting for religious instruction, the drive on. But the public schools are entirely different, and the school board should know this. And if it takes a lawsuit to remind them of this, then it is absolutely appropriate. Teacher wants to give instruction in her faith, in an extracurricular, then go for it. Otherwise, it has no place in the public school, because freedom of religion means that the state--and teachers ARE part of that state, what with those publicly funded paychecks--doesn't promote one faith over others. Do what you want in private instruction, but leave that sh*t out of the teaching. This promotion of Christianity over other faiths is a definite violation of that freedom of religion.

Freedom of religion isn't "I'm free to tell everyone the good news!" if you're a public employee. If you represent the State, then you serve more than one faith. If you can't handle that: then you need to get a job in the private sector. Teach in a private school. But on the public dime, that is NOT your job.
2014-01-23 06:38:26 PM
8 votes:
Christians give Christianity a bad name.
2014-01-23 06:31:08 PM
7 votes:
Sad, yes. Surprising, no.
2014-01-23 06:56:46 PM
6 votes:
Just make sure, when you hear the words "Christian Oppression" in the United States, remember it means to them that the Christians are not freely allowed to push their faith upon people who disagree with them. If a Christian was talking about oppression in Saudi Arabia or China, then we'd have something to talk about, but still remember what was the first thing the Christians did after the Iraq War ended? They came in there with Bibles and missionaries, intent on converting Muslims when their faith was low and their country in shambles. Christianity, just stop with the pressuring of faith upon people who don't agree with your religion and we'll stop "oppressing" you! Hell, we might even let you put up a 10 Commandments display after we put it next to a statue of the Flying Spagetti monster, Buddha, and Cthulhu.

/Jewish
//Rather see all religions and non-beliefs have an equal footing in the US as the Founding Fathers intended it instead of this Christian Dominionist fantasy that always occurs when the fundamentalist Christians feel they can get away with it
2014-01-23 06:43:26 PM
6 votes:
Of course I am sure it is the christian teacher who feels that she is really the oppressed one.
2014-01-23 06:41:45 PM
6 votes:
Imagine the diarrhea Fox News would be spewing out right now if the religions were the swapped.
2014-01-23 06:32:12 PM
6 votes:
Those poor christians. Why do the unbelievers insist on stopping them from forcing their religion on the youth?

It's a war on Christianity, I tells ya
2014-01-23 06:31:55 PM
6 votes:
For every problem, there is a solution that is simple, obvious, and wrong.
2014-01-23 07:58:23 PM
5 votes:
Thinking about it, I can't recall a recent case where religion was quite so institutionalized into a public school.  I mean, there was the school that was forced to take down a picture of Jesus in the gym, or something like that, and there have been plenty of cases dealing with school prayer, and with 'teaching the controversy', but this school seems to have it all:  Mandatory prayer, the bare-faced teaching of creationism and denying of science, affirmations of Christianity on schoolwork, staff and student bullying of students regarding religion.. and it's at every level of their school system, as evidenced by the teacher, principal and superintendent refusing to address the problem--even going so far as racism, telling the parents to put their kid in a school with other Asians, as if there were no such thing as a Christian Asian.

With that kind of bigotry throughout the school system, how do you even begin to address the problem?  I just don't understand how it is possible without nuking it from orbit.  Obviously, the case is a slam dunk, and at some level in the court system, the school district will indeed receive the epic smackdown it so desperately deserves... but what then?  How do you tell an entire school district's staff so obviously filled with the spirit of the Lord that they can no longer make the religion they so love a part of their school?  More importantly, how do you ensure that they follow through, especially given that the students have already been quite indoctrinated to think that religion in school is OK, and they won't understand why suddenly everything has to change?  Students who believe that their teachers want what's best for them, and who know their teachers do NOT want religion removed from the classroom?

It's a little bit mind-boggling.
2014-01-23 07:24:20 PM
5 votes:

SuperNinjaToad: When the outraged parents confronted Sabine Parish Superintendent Sara Ebarb about the incidents, she allegedly told them "this is the Bible belt" and that they "shouldn't be offended" to "see God here." Ebarb advised that C.C. should either change his faith or be transferred to another District school where "there are more Asians."

The obvious legal implications aside what has race got anything to do with religion? Last I check there are a lot of Asian Christians in the US. How does 'moving' to a school district with more Asians mitigate the student's problem anymore than one with caucasian or black students?

Just trying to understand the logic behind her statement is all.


Well there's your problem.
2014-01-23 06:42:37 PM
5 votes:

Hope you like the sensation of the ACLU's foot up your ass, ignorant zealots!

2014-01-23 06:33:07 PM
5 votes:
i.qkme.me
2014-01-23 06:32:31 PM
5 votes:
Why am I not the least bit surprised by this? I swear to god, the only people more aggressively stupid than HOA members are fundamentalist school board members,
2014-01-23 06:38:46 PM
4 votes:
Here's a non-blog article about the events in question, btw.
2014-01-23 06:35:33 PM
4 votes:
How in the he'll did a public school get away with teaching fundamentalist shiat for this long in the first place? The science teacher teaches that the world is 6000 years old?? Do any of those kids who "graduate" from this high school ever actually find a college that will accept them? Damn.
2014-01-23 11:33:56 PM
3 votes:
Non-Christians are excluded in so many ways in this country that most Christians don't even realize they are excluding them, and then get upset when you point out they are being exclusionary.
2014-01-23 07:51:35 PM
3 votes:

T-Boy: Down here in Cajun Louisiana, we are all Catholic. The Catholic Church says some goofy stuff sometimes but it has never endorsed the Adam and Eve rode dinosaurs crap that the evangelical fake Christians peddle. French Catholics live on the edge already. We are kind of Buddhist already.


Anyway - when Catholics want their kids taught their religion, they have the common decency to found and run their own schools.
The damn fundies want it taught to my kids too, and on my dime.
2014-01-23 07:14:58 PM
3 votes:

OnlyM3: Last week "Student told to STFU when she mentioned God". Fark reaction "Good. biatch should keep her mythology to herself.

This week "Student to to STFU when he mentions Budism". Fark reaction hypocrisy.

// Both teachers are idiots and should be fired.


I love it when people who had previously earned a "stupid" tag say stupid things.

If I hadn't bothered to RTFA I might not know that your characterization of this story revealed a complete lack of understanding of the issues at hand.

/I mean, other than your history.
2014-01-23 07:07:23 PM
3 votes:

OnlyM3: Last week "Student told to STFU when she mentioned God". Fark reaction "Good. biatch should keep her mythology to herself.

This week "Student to to STFU when he mentions Budism". Fark reaction hypocrisy.

// Both teachers are idiots and should be fired.


RTFA. If you did you wouldn't have to embarrass yourself like that.

/hint: school is for learning, church is for pushing religious beliefs
2014-01-23 07:04:34 PM
3 votes:
The ACLU, a fundamentalist Christian being persecuted for her beliefs; this will likely be big poutrage in the right wing echo chamber before long.

These authoritarian fundy fruit loops are part of the reason I fear the gop.
2014-01-23 06:58:12 PM
3 votes:
Is it me, or have the rightards just totally lost all sense of a clue and just go around being the most insensitive, inhuman buttholes imaginable?
2014-01-23 06:55:27 PM
3 votes:
Two and a half more years of apprenticeship, then I'll have the freedom to move out of this backwards assed hellhole of a state, and have a job waiting for me where-ever I go (in the US or Canada). I'm outta here..
2014-01-23 06:50:47 PM
3 votes:
I'd like to say, "I'll wait and hear the other side of the story before drawing a conclusion."  I mean, I want to be that level headed.   That reasonable.  But it's Fundamentalist Christians being assholes in Louisiana.... it's probably true.
2014-01-23 06:38:13 PM
3 votes:

shastacola: How in the he'll did a public school get away with teaching fundamentalist shiat for this long in the first place?


Louisiana
2014-01-23 06:36:05 PM
3 votes:
Untouchable union teachers living high on the hog and indoctrinating our youth.
2014-01-23 06:34:13 PM
3 votes:
Why are jackhole teachers allowed anywhere NEAR children?

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2014-01-24 09:45:02 AM
2 votes:
I always liked the Science Made Stupidapproach.    We take the classical evolution approach:
www.besse.at

and combine it with a glaring hole in the creationist approach:

www.besse.at

Where did the wives for Cain and Seth come from?  Voila...

www.besse.at
2014-01-24 12:02:19 AM
2 votes:

meat0918: Non-Christians are excluded in so many ways in this country that most Christians don't even realize they are excluding them, and then get upset when you point out they are being exclusionary.


The thing about "privilege" (including "Christian privilege") is that the people who have it almost never realize that it even exists.

There's a saying "Fish don't know what water is" which conveys the idea well enough.
2014-01-23 08:57:55 PM
2 votes:

quantum_csc: GORDON: MayoSlather: Imagine the diarrhea Fox News would be spewing out right now if the religions were the swapped.

YEAH IMAGINE THAT

Not to defend a stupid religious schoolboard, but a 10 year old doesn't have any religion, anyway.  They just say what their parents tell them to say.

Written by someone who doesn't have children.  A 10 year old is certainly capable, if objectively given the tenets of various religions, of choosing which one they would like to believe.  My 8 year old could do it easily if I provided the information.  I think it is all nonsense, so I don't.  I don't disparage religions in front of him, but nor do I try to indoctrinate him; I just try to teach him critical thinking skills.


My friends did the same thing with their daughter; they are both atheists, and spent a good deal of time teaching critical thinking to the girl. They didn't want to stifle her, though, and allowed her to discover what she could about religion, and choose one if she desired.

One evening, we were all sitting around the dinner table, and the girl asked if she could say grace. Mom and Dad said that would be fine, and we all bowed our heads respectfully as she began: "Let us give thanks to the farmers and ranchers who grew this food, and the truck drivers for taking it to the store, and for the people at the store who got it ready and sold it to us, and for mommy and daddy and uncle Buckler for cooking it. Amen." We all gave a hearty "amen" to that. Mom & Dad would never admit it, but they looked just the tiniest bit relieved.
2014-01-23 08:51:39 PM
2 votes:

GORDON: Mikey1969: GORDON: MayoSlather: Imagine the diarrhea Fox News would be spewing out right now if the religions were the swapped.

YEAH IMAGINE THAT

Not to defend a stupid religious schoolboard, but a 10 year old doesn't have any religion, anyway.  They just say what their parents tell them to say.

Not really up to date on this whole "Constitution" thing, are you?

What did what I say have anything remotely to do with the constitution?  The schoolboard shouldn't have said what they said.  Kids don't have real religion anyway.  The only people with an opinion are the parents about to make bank and a bunch of bigoted farkers who now have another reason to show bias against southern states.  It really is the last acceptable form of bigotry, you know.


Well to begin with, you're effectively trying to excuse the school board by implying that it doesn't really matter anyway because "kids don't have religion".

As far as perceived "bigotry" against the southern states, it's not bigotry when they exhibit behavior that rightly gets dismissed. You want the southern States to quit being treated like a joke? Then they need to quit acting like the but of every joke ever written.

But yeah, rather than fix the behavior, the correct answer is to whine about how nobody understands you... That'll get you taken seriously.
2014-01-23 08:16:02 PM
2 votes:
I expect that it is evident that this woman is unfit to teach children science because a) she is a bully; b) she is a bigot; c) she is ignorant of the material she should be teaching; and d) she is violating the separation of church and state by using the bully pulpit of a third rate state school to impose her warped version of Christianity on non-Christians in violation of freedom of religion, etc.

But anybody could see that, so allow me to explain why chimpanzees are not evolving into humans, although there is no real evidence that they aren't seeing as evolution usually takes so much time you can't see it in action, like the brain of Southern Baptist.

I will answer this supposedly knock-down argument in terms that a small child will be able to understand.

Let us begin.

This is my hand. See my hand. My hand has four fingers and a thumb. There are four kinds of chimpanzees, the animal most like Man. There is one kind of human, namely man. Let each of my four fingers be a kind or species of chimpanzee. Let my thumb be man.

As you can see my fingers do not grow out of my thumb. They are opposed. They are joined in my hand.

Let the palm of my hand be the common ancestor of chimpanzees and man. It is not around any more. You can't see it, but it existed several million years ago. We have plenty of fossils of other types of men and ape to prove that this is how it was millions of years ago. We know it must exist even if we can't find it, even if it is currently a missing link, because the acidic soil of forest floors don't allow bones to lie around and because many animals such as ants and mice eat bones for their calcium and mineral content. We know it is missing, which is the same as knowing it must have existed, because there were no humans millions of years ago, but every living thing has two parents, four grandparents, eight great-grandparents, and so forth, barring incest. Our family trees go back to pre-humans and keep on going to apes and then monkeys and so forth, or rather, not to apes, but common ancestors like apes and like humans, not to monkeys but to common ancestors of apes and monkeys, and so forth.


You can represent and see all of these family trees in the shape of my hand. We still have humans, apes, monkeys and lemurs. We still have cats and dogs, horses and zebras, Indian and African elephants. But we don't have their common ancestors any more because their descendants, of howsoever many species there might be, replaced them as you and your parents have replaced your distant ancestors all the way back past whatever missing links bear the names of Adam and Eve.

Because they are missing, aren't they? We don't have Adam, Eve, the apple, the tree, the Garden, or even the snake with legs. If God made any of these, they have disappeared. But the fossil record has not disappeared, so scientists have evidence where theologians have only words, words, words called "evidences" despite not being very easy to understand or very convincing to those of us who believe other crackpot myths and fairy tales.


So chimpanzees and man are evolved from a common ancestor, as my fingers and thumb grow out of my hand.

But could chimpanzees evolve into man? Should they? Should we be able to see this happen before our eyes in the lifespan of one person or even many generations or even ten or twelve thousand years?

No. Evolution is slow. It seldom repeats itself unless there is something to be gained. And, of course, the only way evolving into humans could happen is if chimps were better humans than humans are. Because if you are competing against humans in a being human contest you are bound to lose.

So you will never see a chimpanzee give birth to a human baby. They just can't pull that kind of Poof! miracle off. There is little advantage for chimps to be humans even if they could. There are seven billion of us. There are so many of us that there's no point for chimps to try to compete by being us. It would be impossible to win that fight. On the other hand, there are so many dumb humans that humans could, if they found any advantage in being dumb, evolve into dumber and dumber humans until we had to consider them fundamentally a different kind of human, or even a different kind of ape.


Thank you for your contribution to the devolution of dumb kids into fundamentalists. A few million years stands between you and the kind of progress that is described in Galapagos by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. or in the Origin of the Species by Charles Darwin.

Unfortunately evolution just does not work the way you think it does and you shouldn't be teaching children outside of a Sunday School, where the dumber kids will embarass you with questions you can not answer, while the smarter kids will be good little Christians and just roll their eyes behind your back.



If you prefer, you can skip the text in italics without losing the science, and only most of the snark. But I know how Farkers love snark, so I chose to leave it in.
2014-01-23 07:47:43 PM
2 votes:
Nehemiah Scudder Lives!
2014-01-23 07:19:32 PM
2 votes:
Well nice of Louisiana giving the kid a really good start on a college fund.
2014-01-23 07:12:16 PM
2 votes:
Religion shouldn't be Constitutionally protected when it's not used for comforting people than it is being used to oppress and subjugate them.
2014-01-23 06:56:55 PM
2 votes:
"if evolution was real, it would still be happening: Apes would be turning into humans today."

Good lord lady I don't even know where to begin.
2014-01-23 06:50:40 PM
2 votes:

shastacola: How in the he'll did a public school get away with teaching fundamentalist shiat for this long in the first place? The science teacher teaches that the world is 6000 years old?? Do any of those kids who "graduate" from this high school ever actually find a college that will accept them? Damn.


Louisiana has given public funds to christian charter schools known for teaching creationism...
2014-01-23 06:48:50 PM
2 votes:

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/What a shocker.
2014-01-23 06:48:46 PM
2 votes:

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Untouchable union teachers living high on the hog and indoctrinating our youth.


Teachers union?  In Louisiana?  You do know about "Right to work" states, don't you?
2014-01-23 06:46:58 PM
2 votes:
Well I am convinced.  In the face of all evidence to the contrary I will now believe in creationism.  Also, I will refuse all scientific explanations involving charged particles for the mysterious and completely magical phenomenon known as electricity.

i.imgur.com
2014-01-23 06:31:11 PM
2 votes:
Pretty flawless logic there, junior. This country is was built on my particular flavor of Christianity. You should learn to respect that.
2014-01-24 07:20:40 AM
1 votes:

Gergesa: Well I am convinced.  In the face of all evidence to the contrary I will now believe in creationism.  Also, I will refuse all scientific explanations involving charged particles for the mysterious and completely magical phenomenon known as electricity.

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pim.cpcache.com

This is the non-nutcase way of combining religion and science. Practiced by most christians in the world and official policy of the catholic church
2014-01-24 03:55:59 AM
1 votes:
FTFA:  When informed that C.C. was a Buddhist and therefore didn't believe in God, Roark allegedly responded, "you're stupid if you don't believe in God."

This from someone a christian. Christianity is the most  illogical, schizophrenic religion I know of. Islam has (I think) at least some semblance of internal logic, because it was invented by just one guy. Christianity, by contrast, was made by a committee set up by Emperor Constantine. Teachers like the one in TFA shouldn't be allowed near children.

Also:  She told her students that "if evolution was real, it would still be happening: Apes would be turning into humans today."
i560.photobucket.com

Apos: [img.wonkette.com image 768x1024]


That picture never fails to piss me off. Any school with that in the curriculum should be burned to the ground by barbarian hordes.
2014-01-24 02:35:26 AM
1 votes:
My imaginary boss can kick your imaginary boss's ass. This is because your imaginary boss is a pacifist, and my imaginary boss has ordered armies to cut open pregnant womens' stomachs like they were watermelons at a picnic.

Oddly enough, we believe our boss hates abortion, despite the fact that the first half of the employee handbook treats it like an intramural sport.
2014-01-24 01:09:38 AM
1 votes:
a particular individual


Not only as well, but also because not on you're reply
2014-01-24 12:26:42 AM
1 votes:

Rezurok: a particular individual: Rezurok: Ah, there we go, acting as if you are superior because you managed to nitpick a ridiculously trivial grammatical "flaw".

You'll get over it. It's Fark. Are you unfamiliar with the concept?

Seriously, you're all butt-hurt over minimal trolling? How have you survived here for 7 years?

Who's butthurt?  I find you amusing, but not in a way one could call desirable.

Also this

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No irony there.
2014-01-23 11:28:27 PM
1 votes:

hubiestubert: Freedom of religion isn't "I'm free to tell everyone the good news!"


I'm fairly certain that is exactly some people think.  I've read as much on FB.
2014-01-23 10:01:54 PM
1 votes:

GORDON: Mikey1969: GORDON: MayoSlather: Imagine the diarrhea Fox News would be spewing out right now if the religions were the swapped.

YEAH IMAGINE THAT

Not to defend a stupid religious schoolboard, but a 10 year old doesn't have any religion, anyway.  They just say what their parents tell them to say.

Not really up to date on this whole "Constitution" thing, are you?

What did what I say have anything remotely to do with the constitution?  The schoolboard shouldn't have said what they said.  Kids don't have real religion anyway.  The only people with an opinion are the parents about to make bank and a bunch of bigoted farkers who now have another reason to show bias against southern states.  It really is the last acceptable form of bigotry, you know.


Except for the fact that it's the parents and not the teacher that get to instill religious values in the children.
That, and it's the southern state (school district really) who are being the bigots and not the other way around. Not to mention the anti-discrimination laws the school is blatantly violating.
Except for those things and a few more I won't get into because typing on my phone sucks arse, your astute comment was right on target
2014-01-23 09:42:03 PM
1 votes:

Ctrl-Alt-Del: Piizzadude: Ctrl-Alt-Del: Pointy Tail of Satan: Degenz: You ever eat at a Buddhist soup kitchen? Those jackasses only serve ketchup, raman and peas. I don't care what god they believe, or not, their farking brains are starved of protein.

Fail! Peas have lots of protein. Like 5%. Knowledge is power! lol

Actually peas have an enormous amount of protein, depending on how you measure it.

On a per calorie basis, peas have more than 5 times as much protein as beef, and almost zero fat

OK is this bullshiat or not? Don't make me look it up.

Not bullshiat. By weight, meat has way more protein, but also way more fat and calories.

100 g of cooked peas: 42 calories - .323g fat  -  3.27g protein
100g Tbone steak:  247 calories  - 15.93g fat -  24.18g protein

But on a per calorie basis, more than a few green vegetables beat the shiat out of meat. Of course, that means you have to consume a lot more food to maintain your caloric intake, but that's pretty easy in the first world

Peas: 3.27g protein/42 calories =  .078g protein/cal
Meat: 24.18g protein/247 calories =  I should have been more careful choosing which vegetable to compare to meat - peas are slightly lower in this particular example.

But seriously, if you look it up, you'll find that on a per calorie basis, there are several green vegetables that have more protein than meat. Broccoli and kale are the highest, I think. Just not peas. But remember, also too - zero fat in the green vegetables


The idea that fat is bad for you is about as true as young-earth creationism.
2014-01-23 09:31:37 PM
1 votes:
"ISN'T IT AMAZING WHAT THE ____Ymir_________ HAS MADE!"
2014-01-23 09:18:44 PM
1 votes:

Silverstaff: Remember, a lot of Fundamentalists, especially deep in the Bible Belt, sincerely, genuinely believe that it's perfectly legal to do that, since (as I heard it quoted to me) "Separation of church and state is mentioned nowhere in the Constitution".  They sincerely believe that the US is a "Christian state" founded by Christians and it's "liberal" propaganda/lies that you can't force people to worship Jesus or require people to be Christian to be a citizen or vote or hold office.

They basically think that the US is supposed to be a Christian theocracy and was until the last few decades, and it's only godless "liberal" treachery that began sometime in the 60's (or thereabouts) that's preventing that.

No, I'm not joking.



I got into an argument with a Fundie not too long ago about currency.  I mentioned that our money shouldn't say "In God We Trust" and he went off on me.  Turns out, he didn't know that "In God We Trust" wasn't always on our currency.
2014-01-23 08:47:09 PM
1 votes:

GORDON: MayoSlather: Imagine the diarrhea Fox News would be spewing out right now if the religions were the swapped.

YEAH IMAGINE THAT

Not to defend a stupid religious schoolboard, but a 10 year old doesn't have any religion, anyway.  They just say what their parents tell them to say.


Written by someone who doesn't have children.  A 10 year old is certainly capable, if objectively given the tenets of various religions, of choosing which one they would like to believe.  My 8 year old could do it easily if I provided the information.  I think it is all nonsense, so I don't.  I don't disparage religions in front of him, but nor do I try to indoctrinate him; I just try to teach him critical thinking skills.
2014-01-23 08:27:37 PM
1 votes:

kazrak: Ctrl-Alt-Del: Why am I not the least bit surprised by this? I swear to god, the only people more aggressively stupid than HOA members are fundamentalist school board members,

The difference being that fundamentalists on the school board are clueless enough to document that they're doing things for religious reasons. (See also: the guy in Dover, PA who justified teaching intelligent design because "2000 years ago, somebody died on a cross. Can't somebody take a stand for him?")

My understanding is that HOA boards are usually more circumspect, if no less vile.


Remember, a lot of Fundamentalists, especially deep in the Bible Belt, sincerely, genuinely believe that it's perfectly legal to do that, since (as I heard it quoted to me) "Separation of church and state is mentioned nowhere in the Constitution".  They sincerely believe that the US is a "Christian state" founded by Christians and it's "liberal" propaganda/lies that you can't force people to worship Jesus or require people to be Christian to be a citizen or vote or hold office.

They basically think that the US is supposed to be a Christian theocracy and was until the last few decades, and it's only godless "liberal" treachery that began sometime in the 60's (or thereabouts) that's preventing that.

No, I'm not joking.
2014-01-23 08:21:04 PM
1 votes:

TOSViolation: All of the "Christians" in the story are actually Atheists who are trying to discredit actual Christians and further remove ACTUAL religious freedom.

They don't want anyone to actually convert to Christianity.  They want to ban ALL expression of ANY religious beliefs in ANY school.  This is just how they go about it.

It's like the U.S. government attacking a site in Miami, in the name of Cuba, so the rest of the U.S.A. would approve of going to war with Cuba.


So in your tiny little mind you believe an atheist would live their public life as a devout fundamental christian in Louisiana, just to generate backlash for christians?  That's the explanation you're going with?  Seriously?  Are you trolling, or just indescribably stupid?
2014-01-23 08:18:08 PM
1 votes:

GORDON: MayoSlather: Imagine the diarrhea Fox News would be spewing out right now if the religions were the swapped.

YEAH IMAGINE THAT

Not to defend a stupid religious schoolboard, but a 10 year old doesn't have any religion, anyway.  They just say what their parents tell them to say.


Not really up to date on this whole "Constitution" thing, are you?
2014-01-23 08:04:14 PM
1 votes:

Hickory-smoked: One test she gave to students asked: "ISN'T IT AMAZING WHAT THE _____________ HAS MADE!"

This alone should be grounds for deportation.


Par for the course from the folks who endorsed:


img.wonkette.com

/Second time this week I've used this.
//Fundies make this too damn easy.
2014-01-23 08:03:59 PM
1 votes:

DarkSoulNoHope: Just make sure, when you hear the words "Christian Oppression" in the United States, remember it means to them that the Christians are not freely allowed to push their faith upon people who disagree with them. If a Christian was talking about oppression in Saudi Arabia or China, then we'd have something to talk about, but still remember what was the first thing the Christians did after the Iraq War ended? They came in there with Bibles and missionaries, intent on converting Muslims when their faith was low and their country in shambles. Christianity, just stop with the pressuring of faith upon people who don't agree with your religion and we'll stop "oppressing" you! Hell, we might even let you put up a 10 Commandments display after we put it next to a statue of the Flying Spagetti monster, Buddha, and Cthulhu.

/Jewish
//Rather see all religions and non-beliefs have an equal footing in the US as the Founding Fathers intended it instead of this Christian Dominionist fantasy that always occurs when the fundamentalist Christians feel they can get away with it


You know I've been reading lately that the founding fathers only intended freedom of religion for christianity, those other fake religions don't count at all so just shut up with that new fangled jewish stuff, we don't need that new age stuff.
2014-01-23 07:57:42 PM
1 votes:

jso2897: GORDON: MayoSlather: Imagine the diarrhea Fox News would be spewing out right now if the religions were the swapped.

YEAH IMAGINE THAT

Not to defend a stupid religious schoolboard, but a 10 year old doesn't have any religion, anyway.  They just say what their parents tell them to say.

So what?


The school also tried to reeducate the parents and was teaching creationism as well as runing biblical scripture on the schools electronic massage board out front. I'd say some one has a problem and it's not the parents of the kid.
2014-01-23 07:54:46 PM
1 votes:
For giggles and to be vaguely on topic, I'll post this link that this thread reminded me existed.

Fundies Say the Darndest Things

It's a collection of quotes from fundies all across the interest. Message boards, comment sections, etc.
2014-01-23 07:41:37 PM
1 votes:
Down here in Cajun Louisiana, we are all Catholic. The Catholic Church says some goofy stuff sometimes but it has never endorsed the Adam and Eve rode dinosaurs crap that the evangelical fake Christians peddle. French Catholics live on the edge already. We are kind of Buddhist already.
2014-01-23 07:41:13 PM
1 votes:
Jesus, could that farking website possibly have any more farking ads?

This is why the world isn't going to switch to tablets tomorrow. Shiat like this absolutely KILLS the browser on a mobile device, especially those pages like DailyFail with all the ads, plus a bunch of giant pictures, plus a sidebar with like 40 links, each with its own farking picture...
2014-01-23 07:40:56 PM
1 votes:
Dear Louisiana,
 
You are my home state. I root for the Tigers and Saints no matter what kind of season they have. The cajun, southern, and creole food is in my blood! Hell, even some of my "louisiana accent" sneaks up on me in conversation. And while it's hard to tell sometimes, there are a lot of beautiful places around to feel one with nature. I have loved you and defended you for many years,

But not anymore. I'm done with you for good. You can boast about the wonderful food/filming/fun, but yet you ignore ANY attempt to PROGRESS/grow  with the rest of the nation (and humanity) when it comes to anything that just might NOT be biblical. And while you pander to tourists, you don't bother to take care of your own people in terms of education and basic human rights. The evidence is everywhere, esp with stories like this. You have become the joke of the nation. The partying and wonderful food can't save you now.

and it's with a heavy heart that I have to walk away now. I can't defend you anymore. I'm done.

Goodbye and Rot in hell,
mafiageek1980
2014-01-23 07:40:19 PM
1 votes:

Rezurok: Steak is comprised of...


To comprise means  to consist of or  to be made up of. It is used to denote that something  is made up of smaller parts. Do not use the word  of with comprise.

Read more at  http://www.grammar-monster.com/easily_confused/comprise_compose.htm#h 6 BthyURjLsgbllO.99


"to comprise" means "to contain" (1), as in "The house comprises seven rooms." In other words, this house has or contains seven rooms. When you use "comprise," you're talking about all the parts that make up something. -

See more at: http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/comprise-versus-co m pose#sthash.o4eu2tKH.dpuf
2014-01-23 07:31:10 PM
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Piizzadude: Ctrl-Alt-Del: Pointy Tail of Satan: Degenz: You ever eat at a Buddhist soup kitchen? Those jackasses only serve ketchup, raman and peas. I don't care what god they believe, or not, their farking brains are starved of protein.

Fail! Peas have lots of protein. Like 5%. Knowledge is power! lol

Actually peas have an enormous amount of protein, depending on how you measure it.

On a per calorie basis, peas have more than 5 times as much protein as beef, and almost zero fat

OK is this bullshiat or not? Don't make me look it up.


Not bullshiat. By weight, meat has way more protein, but also way more fat and calories.

100 g of cooked peas: 42 calories - .323g fat  -  3.27g protein
100g Tbone steak:  247 calories  - 15.93g fat -  24.18g protein

But on a per calorie basis, more than a few green vegetables beat the shiat out of meat. Of course, that means you have to consume a lot more food to maintain your caloric intake, but that's pretty easy in the first world

Peas: 3.27g protein/42 calories =  .078g protein/cal
Meat: 24.18g protein/247 calories =  I should have been more careful choosing which vegetable to compare to meat - peas are slightly lower in this particular example.

But seriously, if you look it up, you'll find that on a per calorie basis, there are several green vegetables that have more protein than meat. Broccoli and kale are the highest, I think. Just not peas. But remember, also too - zero fat in the green vegetables
2014-01-23 07:29:52 PM
1 votes:
Fire everyone involved, seize everything they own and give it to the school and/or bullied kids, then let the entire nation throw rotten fruit at them as a warning to all ignorant, evil, wretched wastes of flesh who think of doing similar things. Problem solved.
2014-01-23 07:28:34 PM
1 votes:
This is what creationists really believe:

 "if evolution was real, it would still be happening: Apes would be turning into humans today."

/FTFA
2014-01-23 07:27:56 PM
1 votes:

kling_klang_bed: And hence I quote the Bible


No law shall be enacted respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. - article I, section 8  Constitution Of Louisiana

/turns out they're also required by the same document and State law to provide him with an education
2014-01-23 07:25:05 PM
1 votes:

Pointy Tail of Satan: When I was like 10, I got tossed from Sunday School for asking "How can we tell that God isn't dead?" I would have been at war at age 10 if I lived in Louisiana.


I quit Sunday School when I was 5 or 6. I told my parents I would not go back because I did not believe the stories. At the time, I still found Santa believable, but God was just too ridiculous.
2014-01-23 07:21:48 PM
1 votes:

tinfoil-hat maggie: Well nice of Louisiana giving the kid a really good start on a college fund.


I feel like they probably owe him that much since they apparently aren't going to give him an education.
2014-01-23 07:17:54 PM
1 votes:

FizixJunkee: If only there was a place one could go to lean about the Constitution and the Separation of Church and State® ...


learn, even.
My lesson plan would lean heavily on Jefferson.
2014-01-23 07:17:30 PM
1 votes:

shastacola: How in the he'll did a public school get away with teaching fundamentalist shiat for this long in the first place? The science teacher teaches that the world is 6000 years old?? Do any of those kids who "graduate" from this high school ever actually find a college that will accept them? Damn.


Liberty University.
2014-01-23 07:15:40 PM
1 votes:
If only there was a place one could go to lean about the Constitution and the Separation of Church and State® ...
2014-01-23 07:10:59 PM
1 votes:
Well good job idiot religious zealot school district, CC just got his college tuition paid for by you, and your taxpayers.
2014-01-23 07:04:29 PM
1 votes:

stoicjohn: Ok someone level with me, did the Internet invent Creationism to help them spot the loonies?


It must have. I don't recall Bible stories being taught anywhere except in church, and then mainly as morality tales to instill good behavior toward others. They were absolutely not taught as scientific fact.

/Of course that was back in the 70s in a small town.
2014-01-23 07:03:58 PM
1 votes:

OnlyM3: Last week "Student told to STFU when she mentioned God". Fark reaction "Good. biatch should keep her mythology to herself.

This week "Student to to STFU when he mentions Budism". Fark reaction hypocrisy.

// Both teachers are idiots and should be fired.


Let me fix that for you....

"Public School Student told to  to STFU when he mentions Budism" STFU and accept Jesus and the dinosaur he rode in on.
2014-01-23 07:01:39 PM
1 votes:

TV's Vinnie: Is it me, or have the rightards just totally lost all sense of a clue and just go around being the most insensitive, inhuman buttholes imaginable?


"lost"?

No. It's just that many of them - especially, but not exclusively,  older whites in the south - didn't get the memo to stop being being the most insensitive, inhuman buttholes imaginable
2014-01-23 06:57:43 PM
1 votes:
Also seriously federal over sight on the curriculum already.
2014-01-23 06:57:32 PM
1 votes:
It's either this or more snowflakes.

In all seriousness though, we appear to have become a very adversarial country. Everyone can find themselves one one end of the pole on something and take issue with it. Now we're swinging from extremes on very fundamental issues which can do even more harm.

It will be interesting to see how the next 20 years plays out.
2014-01-23 06:57:12 PM
1 votes:
That explains Papa Duck's shiat, if he was "educated" in LA public schools.

no excuse
2014-01-23 06:55:07 PM
1 votes:

fusillade762: Didn't they fire all the teachers in LA after Katrina? Or was that just in New Orleans?


The Orleans Parish School Board, which controls the curriculum and policies for six schools in New Orleans, voted Tuesday to ban the teaching of creationism as science and a "revisionist" history course touted in Texas.
2014-01-23 06:54:57 PM
1 votes:

BubbaWayne: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Untouchable union teachers living high on the hog and indoctrinating our youth.

Teachers union?  In Louisiana?  You do know about "Right to work" states, don't you?


Yeah I want to get in on that but I stupidly went looking for a number - the only one I found in a couple minutes of massaging the googles was that LA has 0-20% teacher union representation (the lowest category) on some 5 color map on a "We HATE UNIONS" website.  I'd assume it's probably zero (or almost so) union representation for teachers.
2014-01-23 06:54:38 PM
1 votes:

Dinobot: shastacola: How in the he'll did a public school get away with teaching fundamentalist shiat for this long in the first place? The science teacher teaches that the world is 6000 years old?? Do any of those kids who "graduate" from this high school ever actually find a college that will accept them? Damn.

Louisiana has given public funds to christian charter schools known for teaching creationism...


Well to fair, it was what done came on them fancy learning VHS tapes we had the kids watch all day.
2014-01-23 06:50:29 PM
1 votes:

Gergesa: Well I am convinced.  In the face of all evidence to the contrary I will now believe in creationism.  Also, I will refuse all scientific explanations involving charged particles for the mysterious and completely magical phenomenon known as electricity.

[i.imgur.com image 850x1113]


I never noticed it before, but the last sentence has a period following the "you" for no apparent reason.  Cripes, not only is the science bad but the punctuation as well.
2014-01-23 06:49:25 PM
1 votes:

wingnut396: There go those damned militant Buddhists again, oppressing the poor Christian masses!


No no no. It's the ACLU making their brand of trouble again!
The Buddhist kid is just an excuse.
Jeez, I mean, he already moved away, problem solved.

In fact, I heard that the one kid didn't even exist, and the ACLU just made him up!
To oppress Christians! Really!
2014-01-23 06:44:52 PM
1 votes:

Ctrl-Alt-Del: Why am I not the least bit surprised by this? I swear to god, the only people more aggressively stupid than HOA members are fundamentalist school board members,


The difference being that fundamentalists on the school board are clueless enough to document that they're doing things for religious reasons. (See also: the guy in Dover, PA who justified teaching intelligent design because "2000 years ago, somebody died on a cross. Can't somebody take a stand for him?")

My understanding is that HOA boards are usually more circumspect, if no less vile.
2014-01-23 06:40:49 PM
1 votes:
Well, to be fair, religion is UNDENIABLY a choice.
2014-01-23 06:36:32 PM
1 votes:
She told her students that "if evolution was real, it would still be happening: Apes would be turning into humans today."

Checkmate, scientists!
 
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