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(The Raw Story)   Louisiana Public School District has a novel solution for sixth grader who felt he was being harassed by an evangelical Christian teacher for being a Buddhist: Don't be Buddhist anymore, DUH   (rawstory.com) divider line 336
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2014-01-24 12:55:15 AM  

Apos: Hickory-smoked: One test she gave to students asked: "ISN'T IT AMAZING WHAT THE _____________ HAS MADE!"

This alone should be grounds for deportation.

Par for the course from the folks who endorsed:


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/Second time this week I've used this.
//Fundies make this too damn easy.


15"Look at Behemoth,
    which I made along with you
    and which feeds on grass like an ox.
16What strength it has in its loins,
    what power in the muscles of its belly!
17Its tail sways like a cedar;
    the sinews of its thighs are close-knit.
18Its bones are tubes of bronze,
    its limbs like rods of iron.
19It ranks first among the works of God,
    yet its Maker can approach it with his sword.
20The hills bring it their produce,
    and all the wild animals play nearby.
21Under the lotus plants it lies,
    hidden among the reeds in the marsh.
22The lotuses conceal it in their shadow;
    the poplars by the stream surround it.
23A raging river does not alarm it;

Sounds like a hippo to me...
 
dh2
2014-01-24 01:04:28 AM  

MBooda: Vaneshi: Pointy Tail of Satan: Maybe the US can give Louisiana back to the French. Nah, the French aren't that stupid.

*pokes at Louisiana* No, we don't want it back either.

Regards

The English

Sour grapes.
[www.oldgloryprints.com image 700x431]


93rd (Sutherland Highlanders) Regiment of Foot (in the checked bonnets, wearing trews, not kilts) in that painting.
http://www.93rdhighlanders.com/myths.html
 
2014-01-24 01:09:25 AM  
 
2014-01-24 01:09:38 AM  
a particular individual


Not only as well, but also because not on you're reply
 
2014-01-24 01:32:54 AM  

kazrak: Ctrl-Alt-Del: Why am I not the least bit surprised by this? I swear to god, the only people more aggressively stupid than HOA members are fundamentalist school board members,

The difference being that fundamentalists on the school board are clueless enough to document that they're doing things for religious reasons. (See also: the guy in Dover, PA who justified teaching intelligent design because "2000 years ago, somebody died on a cross. Can't somebody take a stand for him?")

My understanding is that HOA boards are usually more circumspect, if no less vile.


Ironically, the HOA boards are generally better educated, and include at least one lawyer.
 
2014-01-24 02:23:33 AM  

vicioushobbit: shastacola: How in the he'll did a public school get away with teaching fundamentalist shiat for this long in the first place? The science teacher teaches that the world is 6000 years old?? Do any of those kids who "graduate" from this high school ever actually find a college that will accept them? Damn.

If it's anything like my school in central Louisiana, most of the kids never see the inside of a college upon graduating, and when they do, they're taking so many remedial courses, they might not quite make it to the sciences before they drop out.

Those that DO go to college and succeed, they're smart enough not to believe the fundamentalist dribble, or at least understand the difference between what's in their bible and what's in the textbook, and which they are required to regurgitate when.


Actually, thanks to Texas (because Texas uses the most schoolbooks, what they want in the books often gets in - and a lot of Texas is the same way this place is), what's in the Bible may also be in the textbook.

It's WRONG, but it's in there.

/Christian, but not a Young Earth Creationist idiot
//science is for knowing about the physical world. religion is for knowing about the soul. stupid happens when you forget the distinction.
 
2014-01-24 02:35:26 AM  
My imaginary boss can kick your imaginary boss's ass. This is because your imaginary boss is a pacifist, and my imaginary boss has ordered armies to cut open pregnant womens' stomachs like they were watermelons at a picnic.

Oddly enough, we believe our boss hates abortion, despite the fact that the first half of the employee handbook treats it like an intramural sport.
 
2014-01-24 02:38:27 AM  

meat0918: This is nice.


That's pretty cool.
 
2014-01-24 03:06:00 AM  

Wyalt Derp: She told her students that "if evolution was real, it would still be happening: Apes would be turning into humans today."

Checkmate, scientists!

well the teacher...
 
2014-01-24 03:20:58 AM  
But it's ok when secular bigots do it.

You can all return to your scheduled stuffing Cheetos into your fat basement-dwelling faces now. Fun time is over.
 
2014-01-24 03:41:44 AM  

Rueened: But it's ok when secular bigots do it.

You can all return to your scheduled stuffing Cheetos into your fat basement-dwelling faces now. Fun time is over.


Do what?
 
2014-01-24 03:55:59 AM  
FTFA:  When informed that C.C. was a Buddhist and therefore didn't believe in God, Roark allegedly responded, "you're stupid if you don't believe in God."

This from someone a christian. Christianity is the most  illogical, schizophrenic religion I know of. Islam has (I think) at least some semblance of internal logic, because it was invented by just one guy. Christianity, by contrast, was made by a committee set up by Emperor Constantine. Teachers like the one in TFA shouldn't be allowed near children.

Also:  She told her students that "if evolution was real, it would still be happening: Apes would be turning into humans today."
i560.photobucket.com

Apos: [img.wonkette.com image 768x1024]


That picture never fails to piss me off. Any school with that in the curriculum should be burned to the ground by barbarian hordes.
 
2014-01-24 04:44:48 AM  

GORDON: a 10 year old doesn't have any religion, anyway.  They just say what their parents tell them to say.


I'm not sure how that's any different than a 45-year-old -- they're mostly just regurgitating what authority figures from both their childhood and adult life told them to say. Most people have literally nothing original to say about whatever brand of (non-)theology they're selling, and are not particularly interested in thinking deeply about it in the first place.

But 10-year-olds are certainly capable of having their own opinions, on religion or anything else, just like they're capable of preferring certain foods or certain friends. They don't necessarily have the same goals as older people when it comes to religion, but that doesn't make their preferences or beliefs any less valid.
 
2014-01-24 04:50:34 AM  

Burning_Monk: It's like the school district is allergic to money.


There was a budget surplus and they wanted to make sure the money got spent so their budget wasn't reduced the next fiscal year.  Technically their plan worked....
 
2014-01-24 04:57:25 AM  
Not all parts of Louisiana are this effed up. Let me remind you that this happened in north Louisiana. My poor parents are from there. They GTFO and went to college down south and things went a little better for them.

The fact that the goddamned teacher is using "This is the bible belt"  as some kind of twisted territorial right is just sick. What are you, a gangster? Bible belt, motherf*ckers! Represent!

/I GTFO of Louisiana.
/I GTFO of the entire country.
 
2014-01-24 05:01:07 AM  
Also, this just in. Shreveport is number five. Go figure.
 
2014-01-24 06:04:10 AM  

FizixJunkee: Silverstaff: Remember, a lot of Fundamentalists, especially deep in the Bible Belt, sincerely, genuinely believe that it's perfectly legal to do that, since (as I heard it quoted to me) "Separation of church and state is mentioned nowhere in the Constitution".  They sincerely believe that the US is a "Christian state" founded by Christians and it's "liberal" propaganda/lies that you can't force people to worship Jesus or require people to be Christian to be a citizen or vote or hold office.

They basically think that the US is supposed to be a Christian theocracy and was until the last few decades, and it's only godless "liberal" treachery that began sometime in the 60's (or thereabouts) that's preventing that.

No, I'm not joking.


I got into an argument with a Fundie not too long ago about currency.  I mentioned that our money shouldn't say "In God We Trust" and he went off on me.  Turns out, he didn't know that "In God We Trust" wasn't always on our currency.


Did you add the fact that the Pledge of Allegiance was written by a socialist?  It's funny to try to watch them process that little fact.
 
2014-01-24 06:05:02 AM  

PunGent: FizixJunkee: Silverstaff: Remember, a lot of Fundamentalists, especially deep in the Bible Belt, sincerely, genuinely believe that it's perfectly legal to do that, since (as I heard it quoted to me) "Separation of church and state is mentioned nowhere in the Constitution".  They sincerely believe that the US is a "Christian state" founded by Christians and it's "liberal" propaganda/lies that you can't force people to worship Jesus or require people to be Christian to be a citizen or vote or hold office.

They basically think that the US is supposed to be a Christian theocracy and was until the last few decades, and it's only godless "liberal" treachery that began sometime in the 60's (or thereabouts) that's preventing that.

No, I'm not joking.


I got into an argument with a Fundie not too long ago about currency.  I mentioned that our money shouldn't say "In God We Trust" and he went off on me.  Turns out, he didn't know that "In God We Trust" wasn't always on our currency.

Did you add the fact that the Pledge of Allegiance was written by a socialist?  It's funny to try to watch them process that little fact.


D'oh, Ciberido beat me to it.
 
2014-01-24 07:20:40 AM  

Gergesa: Well I am convinced.  In the face of all evidence to the contrary I will now believe in creationism.  Also, I will refuse all scientific explanations involving charged particles for the mysterious and completely magical phenomenon known as electricity.

[i.imgur.com image 850x1113]


pim.cpcache.com

This is the non-nutcase way of combining religion and science. Practiced by most christians in the world and official policy of the catholic church
 
2014-01-24 07:36:49 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: ciberido: meat0918: Non-Christians are excluded in so many ways in this country that most Christians don't even realize they are excluding them, and then get upset when you point out they are being exclusionary.

The thing about "privilege" (including "Christian privilege") is that the people who have it almost never realize that it even exists.

There's a saying "Fish don't know what water is" which conveys the idea well enough.

well, in all fairness, have you ever met anyone that speaks "fish" ? How do you know what they know if you can't ask them?

/game, set, match :P


Well, Gillileo has a pretty good understanding of the concept, but he just got excommunicated by the Fish Pope, so... yeah.
 
2014-01-24 07:51:34 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Rueened: But it's ok when secular bigots do it.

You can all return to your scheduled stuffing Cheetos into your fat basement-dwelling faces now. Fun time is over.

that was a reallllly awkward sentence... it just had no flair.... no ummm... what's the word... oh yes, it was dumb.... that's it.


Glad to see you expressing yourself in a coherent and relevant manner as always.

Oh wait, that's not what I meant at all.
 
2014-01-24 08:17:10 AM  

Wyalt Derp: She told her students that "if evolution was real, it would still be happening: Apes would be turning into humans today."



Oh.

My.

God.

The stupid... IT BURNS!!!
 
2014-01-24 09:40:46 AM  
North and South Louisiana are two different countries.

North- Baptists, evangelicals, country music in bars that only sell Bud-lite, want Jim Crow back. Major products=pregnant teens, ignorant duck call makers.

South- Catholic, liquor in gas stations, dancing at festivals, gumbo. Major products=drunken tourists, drunken college students, milfs who dance with strangers at festivals.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-01-24 09:40:49 AM  

mongbiohazard: gja: ciberido: SuperNinjaToad: When the outraged parents confronted Sabine Parish Superintendent Sara Ebarb about the incidents, she allegedly told them "this is the Bible belt" and that they "shouldn't be offended" to "see God here." Ebarb advised that C.C. should either change his faith or be transferred to another District school where "there are more Asians."

The obvious legal implications aside what has race got anything to do with religion?

Keep in mind that we're dealing with the "Santa, like Jesus, just is white" level of derp here.  Christians are white and Asians are Buddhist because potato.

I always laugh a little at that. Jesus was white? Really? Apparently grasping that a descendant of a desert tribe for generations might have had a tad of 'perma-tan' is too much for some folks to handle.
Hell, even some of my cousins once-removed (from Sicily) are rather less-than-white.
Environment. It has an impact on how folks look.
/probably a LOT closer to reality:
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Closer than the blonde haired, blue eyed version, sure. If Jesus wasn't a fictional character he probably would have looked a lot more like this:

[i107.photobucket.com image 220x242]


Holy moley, that looks SO much like my second-cousin Paolo from Calabria. Freaky.
 
2014-01-24 09:45:02 AM  
I always liked the Science Made Stupidapproach.    We take the classical evolution approach:
www.besse.at

and combine it with a glaring hole in the creationist approach:

www.besse.at

Where did the wives for Cain and Seth come from?  Voila...

www.besse.at
 
2014-01-24 10:03:13 AM  
God made everything.  Even Penis Fencing and Traumatic Insemination.

Right?
 
2014-01-24 10:31:34 AM  

NicoFinn: /I GTFO of Louisiana.
/I GTFO of the entire country.


This is me, soon! I'm in Atlanta right now but I'll be moving abroad later this year.
 
2014-01-24 10:46:26 AM  

Rueened: HindiDiscoMonster: Rueened: But it's ok when secular bigots do it.

You can all return to your scheduled stuffing Cheetos into your fat basement-dwelling faces now. Fun time is over.

that was a reallllly awkward sentence... it just had no flair.... no ummm... what's the word... oh yes, it was dumb.... that's it.

Glad to see you expressing yourself in a coherent and relevant manner as always.

Oh wait, that's not what I meant at all.


You're going to respond with a soft-sarcasm IKYABWAI? Come on son, even grade-school trolls on YouTube can do better than that.

Go ahead and tell us all what it is that secular bigots are doing, and make it interesting. Go big or go home.
 
2014-01-24 10:47:25 AM  

rnatalie: I always liked the Science Made Stupidapproach.    We take the classical evolution approach:
[www.besse.at image 249x300]

and combine it with a glaring hole in the creationist approach:

[www.besse.at image 239x300]

Where did the wives for Cain and Seth come from?  Voila...

[www.besse.at image 427x400]


I love discussing that bit with creationists. When they break out the Adam and Eve bit, I get to break the bad news to them:

1. Technically, you're having sex with family
2. The entire human race is inbred as hell and we should be ashamed of ourselves for it. Because Bible.

They look at me quizzically for a moment or two, and then I am forced to explain that if Adam and Eve were the only two humans in existence, and Eve only birthed out three male kids, then by that train of "thought," Eve sexed with Abel and Seth, and presumably the hellspawn of those unholy unions sexed with each other. Voila! The South.
 
2014-01-24 11:01:25 AM  

maram500: rnatalie: I always liked the Science Made Stupidapproach.    We take the classical evolution approach:
[www.besse.at image 249x300]

and combine it with a glaring hole in the creationist approach:

[www.besse.at image 239x300]

Where did the wives for Cain and Seth come from?  Voila...

[www.besse.at image 427x400]

I love discussing that bit with creationists. When they break out the Adam and Eve bit, I get to break the bad news to them:

1. Technically, you're having sex with family
2. The entire human race is inbred as hell and we should be ashamed of ourselves for it. Because Bible.

They look at me quizzically for a moment or two, and then I am forced to explain that if Adam and Eve were the only two humans in existence, and Eve only birthed out three male kids, then by that train of "thought," Eve sexed with Abel and Seth, and presumably the hellspawn of those unholy unions sexed with each other. Voila! The South.


http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/who-was-cains-wife

This pretty much sums up the line of thought...

Of course, the Isrealites minted a great set of Creation tales, even while they were starting to separate themselves from their early polytheism. Yahweh was indeed a jealous God, since at the time he had a LOT of competition...
 
2014-01-24 11:13:55 AM  
ultramarinblaa:
This is the non-nutcase way of combining religion and science. Practiced by most christians in the world and official policy of the catholic church

CitationNeeded.jpg
 
2014-01-24 11:17:56 AM  

rnatalie: I always liked the Science Made Stupidapproach.    We take the classical evolution approach:
[www.besse.at image 249x300]

and combine it with a glaring hole in the creationist approach:

[www.besse.at image 239x300]

Where did the wives for Cain and Seth come from?  Voila...

[www.besse.at image 427x400]


They would have had to have bred with their mother, creating a line of inbred, mentally retarded, ... what's the word? Oh yeah - Creationists!
 
2014-01-24 12:33:38 PM  

profplump: GORDON: a 10 year old doesn't have any religion, anyway.  They just say what their parents tell them to say.

I'm not sure how that's any different than a 45-year-old -- they're mostly just regurgitating what authority figures from both their childhood and adult life told them to say. Most people have literally nothing original to say about whatever brand of (non-)theology they're selling, and are not particularly interested in thinking deeply about it in the first place.

But 10-year-olds are certainly capable of having their own opinions, on religion or anything else, just like they're capable of preferring certain foods or certain friends. They don't necessarily have the same goals as older people when it comes to religion, but that doesn't make their preferences or beliefs any less valid.


10 year olds can definitely have their own opinions. But they are not really able to have them in a completely reasonable way. There's a reason we don't let them drive, or drink, and so on. It's because their judgment is still developing, and it's still erratic and not fully formed, and it's still highly dependent on the people around them. They are not independent, they aren't even trying to be terribly separate from their parents. It's a time in their life when they're learning more and more what it is to be an adult, and learning a lot of that from emulating their parents and peers, but they aren't trying their own wings quite yet. So basically, a 10 year old can "have" a religion, but it's NOT the same as an adult that's had an opportunity to be exposed to other things and rejected them.

Read some child development stuff... it's really enlightening.
 
2014-01-24 01:13:20 PM  

jso2897: trappedspirit: jso2897: trappedspirit: tinfoil-hat maggie: FizixJunkee: If only there was a place one could go to lean about the Constitution and the Separation of Church and State® ...

You can't teach stuff like that in school. Next you're gonna say proper sex ed should be learned there, heathen

They really should not teach stuff like that in school.

Like what?

Spelling Nazism is the best you can do?
Why am I not surprised?


Aww.  Yup, you called it.  That's the best I can do.  Just exactly what it is you think I am trying to do that this was the best of  is your problem now.
 
2014-01-24 08:30:42 PM  

blindio: God made everything.  Even Penis Fencing and Traumatic Insemination.

Right?

And the Osedax worms.



"Male Osedax are microscopic dwarfs that live as "harems" inside the lumen of the gelatinous tube that surrounds each female. An individual female can house hundreds of these males in her tube."

Not exactly straight missionary sex, is it?
 
2014-01-24 08:55:19 PM  
"if evolution was real, it would still be happening: Apes would be turning into humans today."

I'm guessing she is not a football fan.
 
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