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(Think Progress)   Kansas parents are outraged that sex education class materials admit that some people express sexual feelings by having sex; tag applies to both content and reaction   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 107
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2014-01-23 01:04:22 PM  
My sex Ed teacher, back in '69, Ms. Ball, told us straight up anything we wanted to know.
How may faps a day is too much?
Why is guys' junk on the outside, and vice versa?
Anything we wanted to know.

Great class, and we walked away feeling normal.
Any parents expressing repression were viewed as farked up, as they should be.
 
2014-01-23 01:07:56 PM  

vudukungfu: How may faps a day is too much?


There's a limit?!?
 
2014-01-23 01:08:58 PM  
13 is an okay age to discuss the birds-n-bees with your kid

I don't think it's an okay age to discuss blowies and taking it up the poop chute. Let them learn that at Prom.
 
2014-01-23 01:23:52 PM  
Could have just stopped after "Kansas Parents outraged"
 
2014-01-23 01:30:05 PM  
Still no official Kansas tag (but Texas seems more deserving still).

JerseyTim: There's a limit?!?


If you start getting skin abrasion despite using lube, it's probably excessive. Forming scar tissue there can reduce sensitivity, plus ordinary infections can rarely develop into severe complications like blood poisoning.

So, don't fap until you bleed.
 
2014-01-23 01:32:06 PM  

scottydoesntknow: 13 is an okay age to discuss the birds-n-bees with your kid

I don't think it's an okay age to discuss blowies and taking it up the poop chute. Let them learn that at Prom.


Unless they're getting married to one of the Duck Dynasty guys. Then it's OK. To do it. Not to talk about it.
 
2014-01-23 01:35:49 PM  

abb3w: JerseyTim: There's a limit?!?

If you start getting skin abrasion despite using lube, it's probably excessive. Forming scar tissue there can reduce sensitivity, plus ordinary infections can rarely develop into severe complications like blood poisoning.

So, don't fap until you bleed.


i.imgur.com
 
2014-01-23 01:40:17 PM  

scottydoesntknow: 13 is an okay age to discuss the birds-n-bees with your kid

I don't think it's an okay age to discuss blowies and taking it up the poop chute. Let them learn that at Prom.


Why not, there are gay kids at 23, and those two holes don't lead to pregnancy.
 
2014-01-23 01:41:17 PM  

JerseyTim: There's a limit?!?


She told us eighth graders three was the limit. Said something about lost youth and go outside and play or somthing, I dunno, I was staring at her tits.
Forgive me. I was thirteen.
 
2014-01-23 01:41:18 PM  
Had to go back to confirm the only sensible thing said was from one of the eighth-graders.
 
2014-01-23 01:44:19 PM  
What the fark is "eye-popping " a euphemism for, anyway?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-01-23 01:48:31 PM  
Wait until they find out that some people express sexual feelings by having sex with teachers.
 
2014-01-23 02:13:12 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: Had to go back to confirm the only sensible thing said was from one of the eighth-graders.


"It's just a poster - eye-popping, but it's better they show us now than later on," eighth-grader Lyssa Watland told a local Fox affiliate. "There are kids honestly that are my age who are sexually active and they don't know the consequences."


Right you are!
And that is the funny part. Some of the kids are already farkING.
Rather than deal with that, and WHY those kids are sexually active (abuse?), they only worry about the poor snowflakes.

HINT TO PARENTS: your kids will do exactly what you did and more, and possibly sooner. Grow the fark UP!

I love when the dads get protective of their daughters. Give it a rest. Unless you and your wife were both virgins when you got married, FARK OFF.
 
2014-01-23 02:21:30 PM  

vudukungfu: What the fark is "eye-popping " a euphemism for, anyway?


Brown eye popping
 
2014-01-23 02:31:49 PM  
It's sad that I got better and more comprehensive sex education in Catholic school than some kids get in public school. Really farking sad
 
2014-01-23 02:32:11 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: Had to go back to confirm the only sensible thing said was from one of the eighth-graders.


Of course it was. No one is born as stupid as your average Kansan. They have to learn that.
 
2014-01-23 02:32:17 PM  

vudukungfu: What the fark is "eye-popping " a euphemism for, anyway?


Dude, you haven't lived till you've had socket-sex with a one-eyed Jill.
 
2014-01-23 02:32:39 PM  
Wait a minute, these are 13-year-old kids, we do not need to be this in-depth with this sexual education type of program

Because 13-year-olds can't have sex or get pregnant.
 
2014-01-23 02:33:05 PM  
The most shocking part of this story is that it happened in farking Brownbackistan. How the hell did the legislature NOT change sex ed classes to abstinence-only in the last three years?
 
2014-01-23 02:33:29 PM  

vpb: Wait until they find out that some people express sexual feelings by having sex with teachers.

students.
 
2014-01-23 02:34:03 PM  

wraith95: It's sad that I got better and more comprehensive sex education in Catholic school than some kids get in public school. Really farking sad


Catholics are strong when it comes to education.
Sure I had religion class and went to church a lot, but when we has science class, we learned science, not religion.

sex ed was pretty basic, and being taught sex ed by a Brother is pretty creepy, and I remember learning nothing.

on the other hand, kids these days have google ... unless they are incurious
 
2014-01-23 02:34:43 PM  

namatad: I love when the dads get protective of their daughters.


Hell, my daughter's in college. I'd be pretty disappointed if she wasn't getting any.
 
2014-01-23 02:34:50 PM  

Wellon Dowd: Wait a minute, these are 13-year-old kids, we do not need to be this in-depth with this sexual education type of program

Because 13-year-olds can't have sex or get pregnant.


see, the woman's vagina has a way of just shutting things down until she is married
 
2014-01-23 02:36:44 PM  

Mr_Fabulous: vudukungfu: What the fark is "eye-popping " a euphemism for, anyway?

Dude, you haven't lived till you've had socket-sex with a one-eyed Jill.


I don't see what you did there.
 
2014-01-23 02:37:22 PM  

Mr_Fabulous: namatad: I love when the dads get protective of their daughters.

Hell, my daughter's in college. I'd be pretty disappointed if she wasn't getting any.


When my niece was growing up I told her straight up, I would be upset if she had sex before 15 and disappointed if she had sex after 25. I think she waited until she was 18. Strange she isnt farked up about sex like her mother and father. Strange, maybe talking to her about sex like she was an adult and answering her questions was helpful after all.
 
2014-01-23 02:37:54 PM  

Wellon Dowd: Wait a minute, these are 13-year-old kids, we do not need to be this in-depth with this sexual education type of program

Because 13-year-olds can't have sex or get pregnant.


This.

My friend's mother is 13 years older than he is.
 
2014-01-23 02:39:06 PM  
Anal sex, Oral sex, vaginal intercourse.

um ... do they mean vaginal sex?
people are so weird
 
2014-01-23 02:39:14 PM  
Cool, my school district made the news.....and the complaining dude has the exact same name as a guy in my graduating class but isn't him. Mark must be getting some interesting emails.
 
2014-01-23 02:46:12 PM  
Even in rural SC we had brutally honest, genuine sex education.  Not just "don't have sex".  Anyone who believes that abstinence only education is the answer is more of a child than the children they are trying to save.  Give teens the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.  That'll put the fear of god / pregnancy / STDs in them well enough.
 
2014-01-23 02:46:41 PM  

Mr_Fabulous: namatad: I love when the dads get protective of their daughters.

Hell, my daughter's in college. I'd be pretty disappointed if she wasn't getting any.


Yep, my stepson was getting his fair share senior year HS, and all we stressed to him was please wrap it up son, no matter what she says.  And made sure he always had condoms available.  At 31, he's a well adjusted man with a pretty good life going.
 
2014-01-23 02:46:42 PM  
Some people are really uptight even talking about sex.

Vagina.  Does that make you uncomfortable?
 
2014-01-23 02:46:50 PM  
Back in the early 80s, we had pretty much no nonsense sex ed. Then again, AIDS was sort of terrifying everyone, so folks figured the kids needed the damn information, and since we were on a military base, the LESS kids having kids, the better. There are some perks to having base schools handle that sort of thing. I didn't have a child until my 30s, thanks to that gub'ment sponsored edujubacation.

And managed to not get any infections or VD related issues to boot. Go Big Government!
 
2014-01-23 02:46:56 PM  
If you can't get over your own uncomfortable feelings about discussion things of a sexual nature with your child, how can you ever expect them to talk to YOU about sexual matters when they are faced with them? It's never easy, but every time the subject comes up, it is so obvious in my daughter's face that our relaxed manner puts her more at ease. She's 11 now, has known that boys have a penis and girls have a vagina since she was like 4 or 5 (discussed regarding why boys bathrooms have 'those things on the wall'... urinals). She known for a year, maybe 2, that daddy put his penis in mommy's vagina for her to get pregnant (we did pretty much say it that way. I always wondered if she imagine me detaching it and handing it over to my wife... but I digress).

Lately, it's her period. She hasn't had it yet, but we all know it is coming soon. My wife, obviously, has mostly talked to her about this, but it sorta came up after dinner the other night and I just casually said to my daughter "Honey, you know that daddy knows all about periods, right?" and she said yea and I just reassured her that it's not something she needs to keep secret. It will be important for me to know if she's not feeling well because of it or whatever. I even suggested that maybe she keep a change of underwear in her backpack in case it comes while she's at school. I was surprised to learn that my wife hadn't thought of that.

Anyway, the more casual you are talking to them, the less apprehensive they will be talking to you when they really need to.
 
2014-01-23 02:47:02 PM  

Mr_Fabulous: namatad: I love when the dads get protective of their daughters.

Hell, my daughter's in college. I'd be pretty disappointed if she wasn't getting any.


What's a matter son? you too good to make a move on my daughter? Half my DNA is in them titties, now you quit pussying around and get over there! Move! Move!
 
2014-01-23 02:47:09 PM  

namatad: and disappointed if she had sex after 25


her husband might be disappointed if she doesn't
 
2014-01-23 02:48:42 PM  

gadian: Even in rural SC we had brutally honest, genuine sex education.  Not just "don't have sex".  Anyone who believes that abstinence only education is the answer is more of a child than the children they are trying to save.  Give teens the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.  That'll put the fear of god / pregnancy / STDs in them well enough.


Pretty damn much.
 
2014-01-23 02:49:32 PM  

scottydoesntknow: 13 is an okay age to discuss the birds-n-bees with your kid

I don't think it's an okay age to discuss blowies and taking it up the poop chute. Let them learn that at Prom.


Lots of them already know about blowies and taking it up the poop chute and many of those kids "know" things that are completely not true.

13 isn't a good age to start discussing blowjobs because it's too late.
 
2014-01-23 02:49:43 PM  
Wow, why didn't I get "Explicit lessons in sex acts"? Wait, these kids didn't either? It's just a list of things that are involved with or relating to sex?

Oh my God!! What a bunch of retards. seriously, they are demonstrating 'explicit sex', you morans.

And FTA:

In 2007, Kansas updated its sex education from abstinence-only to what's called "abstinence-plus." Now, sex ed courses are still required to stress abstinence as the best approach to teen sexuality, but they can also provide information about STDs and birth control.

The only common sense thing to come out of all of this, it seems. Promoting abstinence as the preferred message, while still teaching about the consequences of/reasons for having/ways to be careful with sex is totally fine, it's when they promote abstinence as the ONLY option that's stupid.
 
2014-01-23 02:50:22 PM  

JerseyTim: vudukungfu: How may faps a day is too much?

There's a limit?!?


Dan Savage's excellent advice to teenage boys encourages them to masturbate in moderation - no more than 10 times per day.

/I don't think he's exaggerating
//Also tells how to avoid "death-grip syndrome"
 
2014-01-23 02:53:54 PM  
Not every parent is objecting to the school's sex ed class, however. Jennifer Watland, whose daughter Lyssa attends the middle school in question, does not plan to remove her from the course. Although Watland referred to the poster as "alarming," she pointed out that many 13-year-olds have probably already learned these words from their friends.

Or, you know, the Fox News channel, which Jennifer Watland probably leaves on in the kitchen or living room 16 hours a day.
 
2014-01-23 02:54:04 PM  
And how's Kansas doing in the whole "making kids wait until they're older/married to have sex" thing? Ranked 32nd (or 16th, depending on how you look at it), with 37% of their 2011 births coming to unwed women.

Come on down, accept your prize.

// a $100k cost (more, if the kid's gonna be in college), no peace for 18 years, and the undying scorn of your favored political party
 
2014-01-23 02:54:51 PM  
Rather than focus on biology & such, I think sex ed needs more focus on relationships, e.g.

- Hey 14-year-old girl: that 21-year-old guy is not interested in you for your personality.
- Don't stick your dick in crazy.
- If your SO threatens suicide, buy them a copy of "Final Exit" and leave.
 
2014-01-23 02:56:18 PM  

scottydoesntknow: 13 is an okay age to discuss the birds-n-bees with your kid

I don't think it's an okay age to discuss blowies and taking it up the poop chute. Let them learn that at Prom.


You never met someone who had a kid at age 13? I worked with a gal that had 2 kids by that age. If I waited for my parents to give me the sex talk, I'd still be waiting at 38!

By 13 they should know what will cause pregnancy, what they can do instead of intercourse, how to prevent pregnancy and disease, that it's ok to wait, and it's not good for their emotional health to do something with someone they don't want to do that with, and never ok to do stuff with someone that doesn't want to do that with them.

I remember being a 13 year old girl. I was horny as shiat. Didn't do anything with a guy until 16 though, and didn't have sex until 19, but reading Cosmo from age 13 on taught me everything I needed about preventing disease and pregnancy, which was good, because my hs sex ed was abstinence heavy.
 
2014-01-23 02:56:36 PM  

namatad: Wellon Dowd: Wait a minute, these are 13-year-old kids, we do not need to be this in-depth with this sexual education type of program

Because 13-year-olds can't have sex or get pregnant.

see, the woman's vagina has a way of just shutting things down until she is married


I thought she peed out the troll on her 21st birthday, didn't know marriage had anything to do with it.
 
2014-01-23 02:58:47 PM  

ocd002: scottydoesntknow: 13 is an okay age to discuss the birds-n-bees with your kid

I don't think it's an okay age to discuss blowies and taking it up the poop chute. Let them learn that at Prom.

You never met someone who had a kid at age 13? I worked with a gal that had 2 kids by that age. If I waited for my parents to give me the sex talk, I'd still be waiting at 38!

By 13 they should know what will cause pregnancy, what they can do instead of intercourse, how to prevent pregnancy and disease, that it's ok to wait, and it's not good for their emotional health to do something with someone they don't want to do that with, and never ok to do stuff with someone that doesn't want to do that with them.

I remember being a 13 year old girl. I was horny as shiat. Didn't do anything with a guy until 16 though, and didn't have sex until 19, but reading Cosmo from age 13 on taught me everything I needed about preventing disease and pregnancy, which was good, because my hs sex ed was abstinence heavy.


Well...I wanted to say something bad about reading Cosmo for your sex ed.  Considering your HS sex ed was...closed-minded, then yeah Cosmo's a great substitute.
 
2014-01-23 03:01:51 PM  

ocd002: scottydoesntknow: 13 is an okay age to discuss the birds-n-bees with your kid

I don't think it's an okay age to discuss blowies and taking it up the poop chute. Let them learn that at Prom.

You never met someone who had a kid at age 13? I worked with a gal that had 2 kids by that age. If I waited for my parents to give me the sex talk, I'd still be waiting at 38!

By 13 they should know what will cause pregnancy, what they can do instead of intercourse, how to prevent pregnancy and disease, that it's ok to wait, and it's not good for their emotional health to do something with someone they don't want to do that with, and never ok to do stuff with someone that doesn't want to do that with them.

I remember being a 13 year old girl. I was horny as shiat. Didn't do anything with a guy until 16 though, and didn't have sex until 19, but reading Cosmo from age 13 on taught me everything I needed about preventing disease and pregnancy, which was good, because my hs sex ed was abstinence heavy.


And (you probably agree) there shouldn't be a The Sex Talk, but it should just be like any other subject.

/That has its downsides too: my 5-year-old draws his stick figures with penises
//Drew a family picture recently, with penises on all except himself, for a 75% penis error rate
///penis error rate
 
2014-01-23 03:03:29 PM  

Gaseous Anomaly: ///penis error rate


Band name?
 
2014-01-23 03:04:11 PM  

lennavan: scottydoesntknow: 13 is an okay age to discuss the birds-n-bees with your kid

I don't think it's an okay age to discuss blowies and taking it up the poop chute. Let them learn that at Prom.

Lots of them already know about blowies and taking it up the poop chute and many of those kids "know" things that are completely not true.

13 isn't a good age to start discussing blowjobs because it's too late.


Kids should learn about blowjobs the way we did - from reading Congressional testimony.
 
2014-01-23 03:04:26 PM  
They should follow the Ohio method and have a state trooper masturbate alongside each student to instruct them on what to do with their sexual urges.
 
2014-01-23 03:06:45 PM  

SilentStrider: Could have just stopped after "Kansas Parents outraged"


That is their default state. Hardly newsworthy.
 
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