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2014-01-23 05:32:48 PM
PluckYew: TwoBeersOneCan: PluckYew: Who is going to be the 1st Seahawk fan to rage quit Fark because of all the negative Seahawk/Sherman greens?

That already happened with a Cowboys fan during the epic tidal wave of December Cowboys threads.

and the reason I brought it up.  I thought it was funny.

Expect a Seahawk rage quit if they lose the Superb Owl and there are repeated greens about how horrible
their organization is JohnBigBootay: PluckYew: What is the over/under on number of plays "2-play" Percy will play.

He is fragile but it's the super bowl. I suspect we'll see him the whole game unless he gets carted off. Can't imagine he'd sit out with a headache for this one.

He might not have a choice if he gets his 'bell rung': http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000228345/article/safety-rules-r e gulations

The 2009 statement advises that a player who suffers a concussion should not return to play or practice on the same day if he shows any signs or symptoms of a concussion that are outlined in the return-to-play statement. It further states:

"Once removed for the duration of a practice or game, the player should not be considered for return-to-football activities until he is fully asymptomatic, both at rest and after exertion, has a normal neurological examination, normal neuropsychological testing, and has been cleared to return by both his team physician(s) and the independent neurological consultant. A critical element of managing concussions is candid reporting by players of their symptoms following an injury. Accordingly, players are to be encouraged to be candid with team medical staffs and fully disclose any signs or symptoms that may be associated with a concussion."


Well that was a FARK up and a half.  Started replying to one comment by quoting, typed a partial response, thought I'd better of it and focused on the next comment.  Forgot to delete the original post.

Stupid part is I had previewed a couple of times to get the NFL link correct.  1+ year in and I STILL can't link using the "new" interface.
 
2014-01-23 05:37:58 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: Ow! That was my feelings!: Phil Moskowitz: But no one saw what D'glester Hardunkichud said at half time. It's all just water under the bridge with that guy.

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"I could talk about Fudge all day."

Although, Nyquillus is my favorite.
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Yeah, but all the speed is coming out of the West.
davehulihan.com

Even 'football speed'
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2014-01-23 05:40:47 PM

Bunny Deville: mikaloyd: Bunny Deville: YOU'RE ALL MAKING BABY JESUS CRY

NOW STAHP

YOU ARE NOT THE BABY JESUS BUNNY! PEYTON MANNING IS! WE ALL KNOW IT!

They won't stop, mika. They won't STOP. Make them STOP. 1000 posts about Sherman in the last few days. There are other things to talk about than someone who got excited and said some shiat! Jesus H. Piebald Christ in a jumped up Chevy, if I had this amount of discussion for every time I made a social faux pas, well, I'd be a well and thouroughly discussed individual...


MAKE IT STAAAAAAAAAHP


[Music by Tom Petty; new Lyrics to 'To Be Me']

Marshawn ran the ball all day
The Hawks wanted to put the game away
Kaepernick threw the best he could
And Crabtree was in the neighborhood

The man had been ignored all game
But now everyone will know his name
Sports writers just won't let it die
As Sherman helps the Seahawks fly

Andrews got to the point
And his answer was out of joint
Analysts would replay
The sound bytes all day

This must be how it feels
This must be how it feels
To be Di

/and all the other Cowboys fans that have taken crap this year.
 
2014-01-23 05:41:12 PM

Shame Us: His guaranteed money continues thru next season, but not after.


Let's put it this way:

"His guaranteed money continues until Sherman and Thomas can become free agents."
 
2014-01-23 05:41:30 PM

Shame Us: PluckYew: Expect a Seahawk rage quit if they lose the Superb Owl and there are repeated greens about how horrible their organization is

Yeah...those horrible organizations that undergo overhauls from 4-12 to the Super Bowl in 4 seasons are so horrible. I hate it when owners hire successful coaches and GMs, who in turn sign/draft elite players and then succeed on the field. Just horrible.


I hadn't completed the thought, way to jump on that though.  Not your fault, my screwup.
 
2014-01-23 05:48:18 PM

bionicjoe: Ow! That was my feelings!: Ow! That was my feelings!: Phil Moskowitz: But no one saw what D'glester Hardunkichud said at half time. It's all just water under the bridge with that guy.

[pixel.nymag.com image 190x190]

"I could talk about Fudge all day."

Although, Nyquillus is my favorite.
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Yeah, but all the speed is coming out of the West.
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Even 'football speed'
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Let's not forget the defensive player from Stanford who made the game-winning play and had a memorable postgame interview: Ozamataz Buckshank.

(Actually, that interview sounds more like a standard Russell Wilson interview.)
 
2014-01-23 06:00:13 PM

tricycleracer: Back and to the left.  Back and to the left.   Back and to the left.


Back and to the left.
 
2014-01-23 06:00:20 PM
It's gotten to the point that the Richard Sherman "outburst" has already been dissected more times than the Zapruder film


It's getting to the point
Where I'm no thug anymore
Elll ohhh beeeee-eeeee
Sometimes it hurts
So badly I must cry out loud
Erin, I am sorrrry

I ain't yours, it is mine, you are mediocre
The Super Bowl
Yo Crab, remember what you and done and said about the greatest
biatch, I have no mercy
Go check the scoreboard and see what you don't have now
(I am not dreaming)
I ain't yours, it is mine, you are mediocre
You suck so bad

Super Bowl Sunday
Please be gone I'm tired of you
We own the NFC

Russel Wilson's pump fake
NaVorro's busted ass leg
How can you catch the Seahawk?
 
2014-01-23 06:01:23 PM

Shame Us: As far as the headache thing goes, he hasn't missed a game for a migraine in what, 3 years?


Sorry - that's what came up in my 'why percy harvin didn't play' generator.

(not that migraines are funny. migraines are NOT funny and I have 'played through' my share. Luckily no one is trying to tackle me when I have them. If I thought that were a possibility I'd stay home that day too.)
 
2014-01-23 06:02:46 PM

BMulligan: Shame Us: As far as the headache thing goes, he hasn't missed a game for a migraine in what, 3 years?

I can't imagine playing football with a migraine. For that matter, I can't imagine even being in Century Link during a game with a migraine - and I say that as someone who once attended a Slayer concert while suffering a migraine.


I used to get severe migraines until I had sinus surgery that basically restructured the whole damned situation.  I can't imagine getting out of bed with a migraine, much less suiting up and playing football.  If Harvin says he has a migraine, I'm with him.  Remember Terrell Davis talking about playing with a migraine--all he could see were colors, so he ran away from the ones that weren't orange.  As a WR, Harvin would be useless as he would be unable to focus on the ball while it was in the air.
 
2014-01-23 06:14:08 PM
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Just look at these Thugs.   Sherman looks like a Thug to me.  I heard that he gains the confidence of Hindu travelers and then strangles them with a handkerchief so he can abscond with their valuables.  He thinks that making on offer to Vishnu absolves his guilt, but I'm not fooled.
 
2014-01-23 06:22:35 PM

IAmRight: WhyKnot: I actually think Kaep threw at Sherman on purpose...meaning, I think both Kaep and Crabtree wanted to end the game by beating Sherman...now, I haven't seen anything that has indicated that this happened, but it seems a little too perfect for me.   Kaep plays with a lot of confidence (i.e. 4th and 7 and completes to Gore), I think he wanted to write the story line of beating Sherman...he didn't want to win the game and give Sherman any ability to talk "yeah well, you didn't win the game by coming at me"..so with that in mind he went right at Sherman...and well, the rest is history.

I'm telling you, man, Beats had both the Kaepernick and Sherman ads ready. Dre was at the stadium. He radioed that call in to Kaepernick - either way his player comes away with the big play at the other's expense.

If Kaepernick wins, his commercial becomes perfectly appropriate - he blocked out the Seattle fans and delivered a huge win.

If Sherman wins, he had to do something like what he did, then his commercial ends up being perfect for the moment.


It's going to be hard for the super bowl to live up to the intensity and drama of that game.  If you look back, the NFC championship has a lot of moments that eclipsed the super bowl.  I really don't know what to expect.  It could be a low scoring snoozer, or a shootout, or a blowout by either team potentially.  You could make and argument for each.
 
2014-01-23 06:28:16 PM

spiderpaz: It could be a low scoring snoozer, or a shootout, or a blowout by either team potentially. You could make and argument for each.


last i checked the o/u was i think 47.5.  i say under, and SEA wins like, 25-17, 27-15.  i say under BIGTIME and I just don't see Denver scoring a lot.  and denver gave up points a lot this year.  like they gave up something like 48 to Dallas, yet still won.

SEA's defense is no joke.  I just can't see Peyton doing a whole lot against this secondary.

a 35-30 shootout would shock me.  one, I can't see SEA giving up that many points.  i think Denver was favored, and I get that, Peyton is a popular bet and all, i just don't see DEN matching up well with these guys.

SEA, high single digits.  maybe 10-12 points.
 
2014-01-23 06:32:11 PM

spiderpaz: It's going to be hard for the super bowl to live up to the intensity and drama of that game.  If you look back, the NFC championship has a lot of moments that eclipsed the super bowl.  I really don't know what to expect.  It could be a low scoring snoozer, or a shootout, or a blowout by either team potentially.  You could make and argument for each.


Here's hoping for Seahawks 55, Broncos 10 for the lulz.

OMG now I really want to see that and have them show Elway's face with the graphic of the other time that happened on split screen for the second half.
 
2014-01-23 06:34:15 PM

rickythepenguin: spiderpaz: It could be a low scoring snoozer, or a shootout, or a blowout by either team potentially. You could make and argument for each.

last i checked the o/u was i think 47.5.  i say under, and SEA wins like, 25-17, 27-15.  i say under BIGTIME and I just don't see Denver scoring a lot.  and denver gave up points a lot this year.  like they gave up something like 48 to Dallas, yet still won.

SEA's defense is no joke.  I just can't see Peyton doing a whole lot against this secondary.

a 35-30 shootout would shock me.  one, I can't see SEA giving up that many points.  i think Denver was favored, and I get that, Peyton is a popular bet and all, i just don't see DEN matching up well with these guys.

SEA, high single digits.  maybe 10-12 points.


I'm with you on this.  Due to all the trouble the Seattle offense has had getting going, they are not going to break 24 points.  The defense is going to give Manning a run for his money on multiple fronts.  This is going to come down to which Defense can score some points from a pick 6 or turn over.  It will take multiple defensive scores to hit an over like that.  I don't see it, especially if there is lots of snow going on.

/Also, I liked your cut of Suite Sherman Blue Eyes
 
2014-01-23 06:35:08 PM

Semper IvXx: IAmRight: Semper IvXx: And yet, better than any receiver on the Seahawks.

Not really.

AdmirableSnackbar: Crabtree had beaten Sherman

Wherein by beaten you mean "shoved Sherman in the back to illegally create separation"

Oh OK then. I forgot how good Doug Baldwin is I guess. Him and that other guy they have. Old what's his name. Big talent on that guy, I think he's only been cut four times.

/if you think any receiver on the Seahawks is as good as Crabtree when healthy you might be a delusional fan and not as informed as you pretend to be


The purpose of Seattle's recievers isn't to actually catch balls, though.  It's to keep safetys and linebackers honest for this guy.

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They don't have to be superstars and make huge plays all the time (even though they do tend to step up at opportune moments.)  Lynch is the engine that makes the Seahawks offense go, and Lynch is also the best defense they have against Peyton Manning.   The more Lynch runs, the more Manning will be watching from the sidelines.
 
2014-01-23 06:37:00 PM

harleyquinnical: Due to all the trouble the Seattle offense has had getting going, they are not going to break 24 points.


Sure they will. They've put up 23 in each playoff game against defenses a hell of a lot better than Denver's.

/and the defense hasn't scored in an awful long time
//there's no snow predicted
 
2014-01-23 06:38:33 PM

Rent Party: The purpose of Seattle's recievers isn't to actually catch balls, though.  It's to keep safetys and linebackers honest for this guy.


And block. But all they do is make big plays and block happily. It's like a team full of Hines Wards.
 
2014-01-23 06:40:21 PM

harleyquinnical: Due to all the trouble the Seattle offense has had getting going, they are not going to break 24 points. The defense is going to give Manning a run for his money on multiple fronts. This is going to come down to which Defense can score some points from a pick 6 or turn over. It will take multiple defensive scores to hit an over like that. I don't see it, especially if there is lots of snow going on.


i don't think the weather will be an issue, unless it is is like, crazy ass cold, like 15 and snowing, in whcih case you would think Denver would have the edge.  But, i can't recall the last time Denver had one of "those" snow games.  arguably SEA might have had the last snow game;  one or two years ago SEA got a freak storm and they played.

yeah, SEA isn't the highest scoring team out there, but they don't need to be.  If Wilson can play within him self and avoid carpeting the ball (like the first play sunday), I think they have enough weapons to put points ont he board, even if it is just conservative red zone play (i.e., FGs).

DEN has a few legit options (Decker, Welker) but Peyton is more about the shorter routes.  he doesn't have the same grip/arm to stretch the field like he migth have 5+ years ago.  SEA can keep the field relatively "squeezed" and limit his options.  and, to the extent the Donks may want to run the ball, the SEA line is pretty tough.  DEN just hasn't played this good of an defense this year, so they can watch all the film they want, but when they line up they'll see what the NFC West has been like for the past 2-3 years.

I haven't bet since like week 8 or so (lost my ass, $100 down the drain) but thinking of laying some of the CHEDDAH on this game.
 
2014-01-23 06:42:22 PM

harleyquinnical: rickythepenguin: spiderpaz: It could be a low scoring snoozer, or a shootout, or a blowout by either team potentially. You could make and argument for each.

last i checked the o/u was i think 47.5.  i say under, and SEA wins like, 25-17, 27-15.  i say under BIGTIME and I just don't see Denver scoring a lot.  and denver gave up points a lot this year.  like they gave up something like 48 to Dallas, yet still won.

SEA's defense is no joke.  I just can't see Peyton doing a whole lot against this secondary.

a 35-30 shootout would shock me.  one, I can't see SEA giving up that many points.  i think Denver was favored, and I get that, Peyton is a popular bet and all, i just don't see DEN matching up well with these guys.

SEA, high single digits.  maybe 10-12 points.

I'm with you on this.  Due to all the trouble the Seattle offense has had getting going, they are not going to break 24 points.  The defense is going to give Manning a run for his money on multiple fronts.  This is going to come down to which Defense can score some points from a pick 6 or turn over.  It will take multiple defensive scores to hit an over like that.  I don't see it, especially if there is lots of snow going on.

/Also, I liked your cut of Suite Sherman Blue Eyes


Denver will be, I think the metrics/numbers bear this out, the worst defense Seattle has faced since...let's see...SF, NO, STL, AZ, NYG, SF, NO...since Minnesota in week 11. Their last 7 games have been vs. Top 13 Defenses (weirdly enough, SF is the worst defense by DVOA that the Seahawks have faced during that stretch). That kinda helps explain why the offensive production has dipped.
 
2014-01-23 06:42:35 PM

rickythepenguin: like 15 and snowing, in whcih case you would think Denver would have the edge.


Um, the passing-based team with the soft defense would have the advantage in the snow over the running-based, defensively strong team?
 
2014-01-23 06:44:17 PM

rickythepenguin: Robert1966: I was impressed by Sherman's follow-up. It seems he got worked up and made an ass of himself, and now feels a little foolish but stands by his expressions of confidence and his feeling that he had been disrespected by someone who is too lazy to play as well as he does. I don't know that there is a racial angle to it, but I guess people on both sides like to put one there.

i said the other day dude was SURGING on adrenalin.  he was about 2-3 minutes (if that) removed from the final whistle, realizing he'd achieved a lifelong dream:  THE SUPER BOWL.  yeah he wsa jacked.  he looked silly and it was exceedingly poor sportsmanship, but, he was just pulsing with adrenalin.

and as i also said, NBC or whomever, fox, whatever, they knew wha tthey were getting.  they specifically chose sherman, knowing he'd go operation codename:  richard sherman.  he went operation codename:  richard sherman and then the network aborted the interview (per dan patrick today;  erin andrews said she wsa told to cut it short).


and once agian, i loved Daryl Wright's tweet:  "dear media:  how about you quit sending erin andrews to interview n___s on live tv?"


You also forgot the part where the interview was less than 2 minutes from Crabtree shoving Sherman in the face when Sherman was congratulating him on a good game and looking for a sportsman-like handshake. I forget, which one of them was the bad sportsman again? People keep saying Sherman, but all I can picture in my head is Crabtree being the douchiest douche that ever douched his way across a football field.
 
2014-01-23 06:47:20 PM

IAmRight: Rent Party: The purpose of Seattle's recievers isn't to actually catch balls, though.  It's to keep safetys and linebackers honest for this guy.

And block. But all they do is make big plays and block happily. It's like a team full of Hines Wards.


Golden Tate blowing up Sean Lee is still one of my top 5 all time football moments.

/ ALL TIME!!
 
2014-01-23 06:47:31 PM

arentol: rickythepenguin: Robert1966: I was impressed by Sherman's follow-up. It seems he got worked up and made an ass of himself, and now feels a little foolish but stands by his expressions of confidence and his feeling that he had been disrespected by someone who is too lazy to play as well as he does. I don't know that there is a racial angle to it, but I guess people on both sides like to put one there.

i said the other day dude was SURGING on adrenalin.  he was about 2-3 minutes (if that) removed from the final whistle, realizing he'd achieved a lifelong dream:  THE SUPER BOWL.  yeah he wsa jacked.  he looked silly and it was exceedingly poor sportsmanship, but, he was just pulsing with adrenalin.

and as i also said, NBC or whomever, fox, whatever, they knew wha tthey were getting.  they specifically chose sherman, knowing he'd go operation codename:  richard sherman.  he went operation codename:  richard sherman and then the network aborted the interview (per dan patrick today;  erin andrews said she wsa told to cut it short).


and once agian, i loved Daryl Wright's tweet:  "dear media:  how about you quit sending erin andrews to interview n___s on live tv?"

You also forgot the part where the interview was less than 2 minutes from Crabtree shoving Sherman in the face when Sherman was congratulating him on a good game and looking for a sportsman-like handshake. I forget, which one of them was the bad sportsman again? People keep saying Sherman, but all I can picture in my head is Crabtree being the douchiest douche that ever douched his way across a football field.


right?!?!  because in that moment what you want is for the dude that has been giving you shiat the entire game to come over and gloat as soon as he ended your season...don't try to paint Sherman as the victim...he was trolling Crabtree and Crabtree didn't want to hear it.
 
2014-01-23 06:48:46 PM

IAmRight: harleyquinnical: Due to all the trouble the Seattle offense has had getting going, they are not going to break 24 points.

Sure they will. They've put up 23 in each playoff game against defenses a hell of a lot better than Denver's.



I get that, but it's going to have a lot more to do with Peyton Manning than the defense.  You can expect him to put together a lot more slow grinding drive with 5 or 6 first downs in them.  A successful drive from a team like SF is usually like 10 plays.  Peyton Manning will eat up the clock and keep his defense of the field.  Which means Seattle's defense will stay on the field and get less rest, and their offense will not have as much time to get in sync.

Either that, or he won't be able to move the ball at all, his defense will get stuck on the field the whole time, and it will snowball against them.

Like I said, I can see it going either way.  Regardless the least likely outcome is a score over 30 from either team.
 
2014-01-23 06:50:55 PM

IAmRight: rickythepenguin: like 15 and snowing, in whcih case you would think Denver would have the edge.

Um, the passing-based team with the soft defense would have the advantage in the snow over the running-based, defensively strong team?


He's probably thinking it will help Denver's shiatty defense cope and let them just focus on the run.  But it will screw with both teams in reality and just throw a lot of random dumb luck into the mix to determine who wins.
 
2014-01-23 06:52:12 PM

arentol: rickythepenguin: Robert1966: I was impressed by Sherman's follow-up. It seems he got worked up and made an ass of himself, and now feels a little foolish but stands by his expressions of confidence and his feeling that he had been disrespected by someone who is too lazy to play as well as he does. I don't know that there is a racial angle to it, but I guess people on both sides like to put one there.

i said the other day dude was SURGING on adrenalin.  he was about 2-3 minutes (if that) removed from the final whistle, realizing he'd achieved a lifelong dream:  THE SUPER BOWL.  yeah he wsa jacked.  he looked silly and it was exceedingly poor sportsmanship, but, he was just pulsing with adrenalin.

and as i also said, NBC or whomever, fox, whatever, they knew wha tthey were getting.  they specifically chose sherman, knowing he'd go operation codename:  richard sherman.  he went operation codename:  richard sherman and then the network aborted the interview (per dan patrick today;  erin andrews said she wsa told to cut it short).


and once agian, i loved Daryl Wright's tweet:  "dear media:  how about you quit sending erin andrews to interview n___s on live tv?"

You also forgot the part where the interview was less than 2 minutes from Crabtree shoving Sherman in the face when Sherman was congratulating him on a good game and looking for a sportsman-like handshake. I forget, which one of them was the bad sportsman again? People keep saying Sherman, but all I can picture in my head is Crabtree being the douchiest douche that ever douched his way across a football field.


Also, this was right before the interview. What a classless thug he is.

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2014-01-23 06:52:42 PM

Shame Us: PluckYew: Expect a Seahawk rage quit if they lose the Superb Owl and there are repeated greens about how horrible their organization is

Yeah...those horrible organizations that undergo overhauls from 4-12 to the Super Bowl in 4 seasons are so horrible. I hate it when owners hire successful coaches and GMs, who in turn sign/draft elite players and then succeed on the field. Just horrible.


Both teams are pretty good in that regard

Seattle
2008 - 4-12
2009 - 5-11
2010 - 7-9
2011 - 7-9
2012 - 11-5
2013 - 13-3 SuperBowl bound

Denver
2010 - 4-12
2011 - 8-8
2012 - 13-3
2013 - 13-3 SuperBowl bound
 
2014-01-23 06:54:46 PM

INeedAName: Sherman's rant was somewhat classless.

Sherman himself seems to be a pretty down to earth guy.

Neither of these things make him a 'thug.'


Exactly. Everyone single one of these racist douchebag haters needs to watch this video here to see what a thug football player really is:  http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/video-cass-tech-football-player-body-sla m s-security-guard

At the end it all comes out - this is Luther Campbell's kid. You know, from 2 Live Crew? He was already in trouble for punching an opposing player and then he goes and pulls this shiat.

Sherman is loud-mouther and brash. Luther Campbell and his kid are farking thugs. Was that comparison so hard to get, you farking monkeys?
 
2014-01-23 06:55:51 PM

spiderpaz: He's probably thinking it will help Denver's shiatty defense cope and let them just focus on the run.  But it will screw with both teams in reality and just throw a lot of random dumb luck into the mix to determine who wins.


Yeah, the Eagles-Lions game was kinda fun but was I kinda felt bad that it counted as much as a real game.

/sorry, when you can't kick at all, it's not a real game
 
2014-01-23 06:59:20 PM

my lip balm addiction: Exactly. Everyone single one of these racist douchebag haters needs to watch this video here to see what a thug football player really is:  http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/video-cass-tech-football-player-body-sla m s-security-guard


If only that security guard had a gun...he could've had it stolen from him and been shot.
 
2014-01-23 07:01:36 PM

Shame Us: Denver will be, I think the metrics/numbers bear this out, the worst defense Seattle has faced since...let's see...SF, NO, STL, AZ, NYG, SF, NO...since Minnesota in week 11. Their last 7 games have been vs. Top 13 Defenses (weirdly enough, SF is the worst defense by DVOA that the Seahawks have faced during that stretch). That kinda helps explain why the offensive production has dipped.


i haven't checked, were there any common opponents re SEA/DEN this year?  that is not terribly accurate representation but it beats nothing.  i looked at DEN's surrendered point totals a couple days ago, and yeah, they had a few 12-14 point surrendered games (as SEA had a few 12-15 points scored games) but by and large, DEN had some high point totals given up. 

dunno.
 
2014-01-23 07:02:31 PM

Bane of Broone: arentol: rickythepenguin: Robert1966: I was impressed by Sherman's follow-up. It seems he got worked up and made an ass of himself, and now feels a little foolish but stands by his expressions of confidence and his feeling that he had been disrespected by someone who is too lazy to play as well as he does. I don't know that there is a racial angle to it, but I guess people on both sides like to put one there.

i said the other day dude was SURGING on adrenalin.  he was about 2-3 minutes (if that) removed from the final whistle, realizing he'd achieved a lifelong dream:  THE SUPER BOWL.  yeah he wsa jacked.  he looked silly and it was exceedingly poor sportsmanship, but, he was just pulsing with adrenalin.

and as i also said, NBC or whomever, fox, whatever, they knew wha tthey were getting.  they specifically chose sherman, knowing he'd go operation codename:  richard sherman.  he went operation codename:  richard sherman and then the network aborted the interview (per dan patrick today;  erin andrews said she wsa told to cut it short).


and once agian, i loved Daryl Wright's tweet:  "dear media:  how about you quit sending erin andrews to interview n___s on live tv?"

You also forgot the part where the interview was less than 2 minutes from Crabtree shoving Sherman in the face when Sherman was congratulating him on a good game and looking for a sportsman-like handshake. I forget, which one of them was the bad sportsman again? People keep saying Sherman, but all I can picture in my head is Crabtree being the douchiest douche that ever douched his way across a football field.

Also, this was right before the interview. What a classless thug he is.

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It's a trick....he was trying to steal her watch.

/I keed.
//Go hawks.
 
2014-01-23 07:02:36 PM

rka: Shame Us: PluckYew: Expect a Seahawk rage quit if they lose the Superb Owl and there are repeated greens about how horrible their organization is

Yeah...those horrible organizations that undergo overhauls from 4-12 to the Super Bowl in 4 seasons are so horrible. I hate it when owners hire successful coaches and GMs, who in turn sign/draft elite players and then succeed on the field. Just horrible.

Both teams are pretty good in that regard

Seattle
2008 - 4-12
2009 - 5-11
2010 - 7-9
2011 - 7-9
2012 - 11-5
2013 - 13-3 SuperBowl bound

Denver
2010 - 4-12
2011 - 8-8
2012 - 13-3
2013 - 13-3 SuperBowl bound


Man. Imagine if Manning hadn't poo-poo'd Seattle. Then imagine if we had still drafted Wilson.
 
2014-01-23 07:04:20 PM

Shame Us: Denver will be, I think the metrics/numbers bear this out, the worst defense Seattle has faced since...let's see...SF, NO, STL, AZ, NYG, SF, NO...since Minnesota in week 11. Their last 7 games have been vs. Top 13 Defenses (weirdly enough, SF is the worst defense by DVOA that the Seahawks have faced during that stretch). That kinda helps explain why the offensive production has dipped.


That doesn't sound quite right, but I'm not certain what DVOA is either

.

rickythepenguin: yeah, SEA isn't the highest scoring team out there, but they don't need to be.  If Wilson can play within him self and avoid carpeting the ball (like the first play sunday), I think they have enough weapons to put points ont he board, even if it is just conservative red zone play (i.e., FGs).


There is way too much truth to this.  Wilson, Lynch, and Turbin have lost the ball more than a few times this year that have been detrimental to the cause, but, given where they are right now, not very.
 
2014-01-23 07:05:08 PM

Shame Us: Man. Imagine if Manning hadn't poo-poo'd Seattle. Then imagine if we had still drafted Wilson.



I have a friend who hates Manning over that.

Come on, man....get over it.

/That's coming from somebody who tends to be bitter and hold grudges.
 
2014-01-23 07:05:24 PM

rickythepenguin: Shame Us: Denver will be, I think the metrics/numbers bear this out, the worst defense Seattle has faced since...let's see...SF, NO, STL, AZ, NYG, SF, NO...since Minnesota in week 11. Their last 7 games have been vs. Top 13 Defenses (weirdly enough, SF is the worst defense by DVOA that the Seahawks have faced during that stretch). That kinda helps explain why the offensive production has dipped.

i haven't checked, were there any common opponents re SEA/DEN this year?  that is not terribly accurate representation but it beats nothing.  i looked at DEN's surrendered point totals a couple days ago, and yeah, they had a few 12-14 point surrendered games (as SEA had a few 12-15 points scored games) but by and large, DEN had some high point totals given up. 

dunno.


I think the only ones were Jacksonville & Indianapolis. FWIW, Seattle handled them better than Denver did, though both lost to Indianapolis. Don't think it's really all that telling for this matchup, though.

The key will be whether the pass rush can get to Manning. Even of they don't get sacks, if they get hits and pressures, he'll wear down.
 
2014-01-23 07:05:50 PM

Shame Us: Man. Imagine if Manning hadn't poo-poo'd Seattle. Then imagine if we had still drafted Wilson.



My football fantasy:

The Seahawks have Larry Fitzgerald.
 
2014-01-23 07:06:04 PM

my lip balm addiction: INeedAName: Sherman's rant was somewhat classless.

Sherman himself seems to be a pretty down to earth guy.

Neither of these things make him a 'thug.'

Exactly. Everyone single one of these racist douchebag haters needs to watch this video here to see what a thug football player really is:  http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/video-cass-tech-football-player-body-sla m s-security-guard

At the end it all comes out - this is Luther Campbell's kid. You know, from 2 Live Crew? He was already in trouble for punching an opposing player and then he goes and pulls this shiat.

Sherman is loud-mouther and brash. Luther Campbell and his kid are farking thugs. Was that comparison so hard to get, you farking monkeys


Just because Luther Campbell's kid is violent, doesn't change how Sherman conducted himself.  Stop bringing other aspects of who Sherman is...look at that moment, what he said, how he conducted himself, his body language...he gave the appearance of a thug...loud, angry, aggressive body mannerisms...look, I actually think he is very smart dude, he is a great football player, but he cam across as an ass and certainly was trying to act all hard for the camera...i.e. he was acting like a thug.
 
2014-01-23 07:06:08 PM

rickythepenguin: Shame Us: Denver will be, I think the metrics/numbers bear this out, the worst defense Seattle has faced since...let's see...SF, NO, STL, AZ, NYG, SF, NO...since Minnesota in week 11. Their last 7 games have been vs. Top 13 Defenses (weirdly enough, SF is the worst defense by DVOA that the Seahawks have faced during that stretch). That kinda helps explain why the offensive production has dipped.

i haven't checked, were there any common opponents re SEA/DEN this year?  that is not terribly accurate representation but it beats nothing.  i looked at DEN's surrendered point totals a couple days ago, and yeah, they had a few 12-14 point surrendered games (as SEA had a few 12-15 points scored games) but by and large, DEN had some high point totals given up. 

dunno.


Seahawks 45, Jags 17.  Broncos 35, Jags 19
Seahawks 23, Texans 20.  Broncos 37, Texans 13.
Seahawks 28, Colts 34.  Broncos 33, Colts 39.
Seahawks 20, Titans 13.  Broncos 51, Titans 28.
Seahawks 23, Giants 0.  Broncos 41, Giants 23.
 
2014-01-23 07:08:51 PM

harleyquinnical: That doesn't sound quite right, but I'm not certain what DVOA is either


DVOA measures every play based on where it is on the field, game clock, score, etc. and puts it up against the "average" leaguewide outcome in those situations. You can use it for offense, defense, special teams. Basically it measures how much better or worse you are than the average.

You can also weight it to measure how a team's performance is trending (are they getting better as the season progresses, or are the getting worse). The full explanation is at footballoutsiders.com. Seattle is #1 overall (combining Off, Def, Special teams) and Denver is #2.
 
2014-01-23 07:09:25 PM

The_Sponge: I have a friend who hates Manning over that.


Personally, I didn't care - didn't want him anyway (didn't think he'd be this good again). Still think Flynn would've been decent and may have been able to get us in the playoffs both years, although Wilson is better and has a higher ceiling.

Shame Us: I think the only ones were Jacksonville & Indianapolis. FWIW, Seattle handled them better than Denver did, though both lost to Indianapolis. Don't think it's really all that telling for this matchup, though.


Well, they have to have played the whole division if they each played those two. Broncos did better against the Titans/Texans, though the Texans were definitely at a different stage in their franchise's existence at that point.
 
2014-01-23 07:09:34 PM

Shame Us: The key will be whether the pass rush can get to Manning. Even of they don't get sacks, if they get hits and pressures, he'll wear down.



yeah but when is the last time Peyton has really taken a shot?  he has an uncanny ability to dump the ball before contact.  rare is the time he gets popped.  i kinda recall a game last year where someone got a clean shot on him and the announcers were like, "whoa, you don't see that very often!"
 
2014-01-23 07:09:55 PM

WhyKnot: my lip balm addiction: INeedAName: Sherman's rant was somewhat classless.

Sherman himself seems to be a pretty down to earth guy.

Neither of these things make him a 'thug.'

Exactly. Everyone single one of these racist douchebag haters needs to watch this video here to see what a thug football player really is:  http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/video-cass-tech-football-player-body-sla m s-security-guard

At the end it all comes out - this is Luther Campbell's kid. You know, from 2 Live Crew? He was already in trouble for punching an opposing player and then he goes and pulls this shiat.

Sherman is loud-mouther and brash. Luther Campbell and his kid are farking thugs. Was that comparison so hard to get, you farking monkeys

Just because Luther Campbell's kid is violent, doesn't change how Sherman conducted himself.  Stop bringing other aspects of who Sherman is...look at that moment, what he said, how he conducted himself, his body language...he gave the appearance of a thug...loud, angry, aggressive body mannerisms...look, I actually think he is very smart dude, he is a great football player, but he cam across as an ass and certainly was trying to act all hard for the camera...i.e. he was acting like a thug.


What you just described is what just about every politician, or anybody for that matter, does when they are delivering a fiery speech.
 
2014-01-23 07:10:28 PM

harleyquinnical: That doesn't sound quite right, but I'm not certain what DVOA is either


Go look up Football Outsiders.  Study.

It will all make sense.
 
2014-01-23 07:10:34 PM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: rickythepenguin: Shame Us: Denver will be, I think the metrics/numbers bear this out, the worst defense Seattle has faced since...let's see...SF, NO, STL, AZ, NYG, SF, NO...since Minnesota in week 11. Their last 7 games have been vs. Top 13 Defenses (weirdly enough, SF is the worst defense by DVOA that the Seahawks have faced during that stretch). That kinda helps explain why the offensive production has dipped.

i haven't checked, were there any common opponents re SEA/DEN this year?  that is not terribly accurate representation but it beats nothing.  i looked at DEN's surrendered point totals a couple days ago, and yeah, they had a few 12-14 point surrendered games (as SEA had a few 12-15 points scored games) but by and large, DEN had some high point totals given up. 

dunno.

Seahawks 45, Jags 17.  Broncos 35, Jags 19
Seahawks 23, Texans 20.  Broncos 37, Texans 13.
Seahawks 28, Colts 34.  Broncos 33, Colts 39.
Seahawks 20, Titans 13.  Broncos 51, Titans 28.
Seahawks 23, Giants 0.  Broncos 41, Giants 23.


Wow - there were more than I thought.

The way I look at that, they both get 2 points and then a draw for the Indy games.
 
2014-01-23 07:11:37 PM

rickythepenguin: Shame Us: The key will be whether the pass rush can get to Manning. Even of they don't get sacks, if they get hits and pressures, he'll wear down.


yeah but when is the last time Peyton has really taken a shot?  he has an uncanny ability to dump the ball before contact.  rare is the time he gets popped.  i kinda recall a game last year where someone got a clean shot on him and the announcers were like, "whoa, you don't see that very often!"


Mathis popped him and forced a fumble in the indianapolis game and it took Peyton about a quarter to snap back.
 
2014-01-23 07:11:37 PM

rickythepenguin: Shame Us: The key will be whether the pass rush can get to Manning. Even of they don't get sacks, if they get hits and pressures, he'll wear down.


yeah but when is the last time Peyton has really taken a shot?  he has an uncanny ability to dump the ball before contact.  rare is the time he gets popped.  i kinda recall a game last year where someone got a clean shot on him and the announcers were like, "whoa, you don't see that very often!"


And when Peyton does feel the heat, he chucks it and does a little twirl.  Sometimes he falls over while he does it.  The legend is true: he is deathly afraid of contact.  The issues is getting to him.
 
2014-01-23 07:13:19 PM

rickythepenguin: Shame Us: The key will be whether the pass rush can get to Manning. Even of they don't get sacks, if they get hits and pressures, he'll wear down.


yeah but when is the last time Peyton has really taken a shot?  he has an uncanny ability to dump the ball before contact.  rare is the time he gets popped.  i kinda recall a game last year where someone got a clean shot on him and the announcers were like, "whoa, you don't see that very often!"


Denver's offensive line is spectacularly good.  Combine that with Manning's quick release and I don't expect to see him getting hit a lot.  I do expect to see him throwing the ball away a bunch as his immobility means he has to throw it somewhere, and coverage is going to be really tight as they know he can't run.

I'll take him tossing it into the stands as a win every time.
 
2014-01-23 07:15:41 PM

Rent Party: rickythepenguin: Shame Us: The key will be whether the pass rush can get to Manning. Even of they don't get sacks, if they get hits and pressures, he'll wear down.


yeah but when is the last time Peyton has really taken a shot?  he has an uncanny ability to dump the ball before contact.  rare is the time he gets popped.  i kinda recall a game last year where someone got a clean shot on him and the announcers were like, "whoa, you don't see that very often!"

Denver's offensive line is spectacularly good.  Combine that with Manning's quick release and I don't expect to see him getting hit a lot.  I do expect to see him throwing the ball away a bunch as his immobility means he has to throw it somewhere, and coverage is going to be really tight as they know he can't run.

I'll take him tossing it into the stands as a win every time.


He's also going to have to be careful on those quick shots. The way Seattle mixes coverages and the rangy closing speed and length of the DBs can turn a small window into an interception/tipped ball awfully quick.
 
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