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2014-01-23 04:04:10 PM

mikaloyd: The worse your opinion of Sherman's interview style


Someone should put a muzzle on that asshole.  Can't believe they let him speak in public.
 
2014-01-23 04:04:24 PM

IAmRight: JohnBigBootay: On the other hand you are on record as saying it will be "tough" for the broncos to defend against a guy who has one catch this season.

A) he has four now - he made three against the Saints before they cheap-shotted his way out of that game
B) it's tough to defend something you haven't seen much of on film
C) he makes much more of an impact on other receivers' ability to get open than Crabtree does, due to his speed and how he's used


Don't expect Harvin to come out guns blazing.  He's bound to be a little rusty considering he's been out all season and now is coming off a concussion.  The best use of Harvin will be as a distraction because D coordinators are afraid of what he might do.  Wouldn't surprise me if he jacks up a route or something and lets one get picked if they try to do too much with him too soon.
 
2014-01-23 04:04:28 PM

Shame Us: sammyk: Am I racist if I just think he is an asshole of epic proportions?

I get feeling like he's an asshole, I just don't get the severity of people's feelings about the guy. It's insane. He talks trash - so did Jordan, so did Payton, so does Brady, so does Boldin, etc.


When there are 22 players on the field, no one would be surprised that all 22 were talking trash to each other and that even a few of them are assholes.  Sherman got up in front of the camera on national TV after winning the NFC Championship game and  took trash talk to a whole different level.  Whether people like it or not (most don't), you can probably only compare what Sherman did with... a couple of other things?  I can't think of many right now - I'm sure Bobby Knight did some really bad pointed rants, maybe Ryan Leaf screaming at the reporter, or Allen Iverson's "we talkin' 'bout...practice" rant.  And even then, those weren't done as directly or on as big a stage as this.  The scale is enormous.  It would seem the only thing bigger would be if someone did it at the Super Bowl or World Series / NBA Finals?.  "Mr Gorbachev, tear down that wall!"?
 
2014-01-23 04:05:58 PM

IAmRight: AdmirableSnackbar: Crabtree had beaten Sherman

Wherein by beaten you mean "shoved Sherman in the back to illegally create separation"


That might not be as funny if you didn't ignore the fact that the Seattle secondary have their hands all over the receivers all the time.
 
2014-01-23 04:06:25 PM

JohnBigBootay: On a historical note I find myself wondering if there's ever been a guy whose second catch of the year came in the super bowl. Maybe so but I am not going to be the one looking that up!


He's got like 3 or 4 catches on the year.

But, point taken.
 
2014-01-23 04:06:51 PM

IAmRight: Semper IvXx: And yet, better than any receiver on the Seahawks.

Not really.

AdmirableSnackbar: Crabtree had beaten Sherman

Wherein by beaten you mean "shoved Sherman in the back to illegally create separation"


Oh OK then. I forgot how good Doug Baldwin is I guess. Him and that other guy they have. Old what's his name. Big talent on that guy, I think he's only been cut four times.

/if you think any receiver on the Seahawks is as good as Crabtree when healthy you might be a delusional fan and not as informed as you pretend to be
 
2014-01-23 04:08:05 PM

spiderpaz: Don't expect Harvin to come out guns blazing.  He's bound to be a little rusty considering he's been out all season and now is coming off a concussion.  The best use of Harvin will be as a distraction because D coordinators are afraid of what he might do.  Wouldn't surprise me if he jacks up a route or something and lets one get picked if they try to do too much with him too soon.


a) he's had all season to study
b) he's spent several years in Bevell's offensive system
c) I do agree that his biggest value is as a decoy, but I doubt he's going to screw things up. Didn't happen in either of the other two "first times."

/basically, all this talk about how ineffective the Seahawks' offense is is asinine. They're by far the best "weakest unit" of the two teams and that was without Harvin, who only makes them better in the few plays he's played
 
2014-01-23 04:08:18 PM

The_Sponge: Side note:

I give Kap props for telling Wilson to go out and win a ring.


I don't think he is as bad as people make him out to be.  He just isn't media savvy or the best at speaking in public.
 
2014-01-23 04:08:47 PM

Nana's Vibrator: Shame Us: sammyk: Am I racist if I just think he is an asshole of epic proportions?

I get feeling like he's an asshole, I just don't get the severity of people's feelings about the guy. It's insane. He talks trash - so did Jordan, so did Payton, so does Brady, so does Boldin, etc.

When there are 22 players on the field, no one would be surprised that all 22 were talking trash to each other and that even a few of them are assholes.  Sherman got up in front of the camera on national TV after winning the NFC Championship game and  took trash talk to a whole different level.  Whether people like it or not (most don't), you can probably only compare what Sherman did with... a couple of other things?  I can't think of many right now - I'm sure Bobby Knight did some really bad pointed rants, maybe Ryan Leaf screaming at the reporter, or Allen Iverson's "we talkin' 'bout...practice" rant.  And even then, those weren't done as directly or on as big a stage as this.  The scale is enormous.  It would seem the only thing bigger would be if someone did it at the Super Bowl or World Series / NBA Finals?.  "Mr Gorbachev, tear down that wall!"?


Maybe at their HOF speech?

Seriously, he was talking into a camera about one guy. Yes it was nationally televised, but there is no way you can say it's worse than what we know players say on the field. We have clear video of players in various sports calling people f*ggots and impugning their lineagewives/sisters etc.
 
2014-01-23 04:09:28 PM

spiderpaz: IAmRight: AdmirableSnackbar: Crabtree had beaten Sherman

Wherein by beaten you mean "shoved Sherman in the back to illegally create separation"

That might not be as funny if you didn't ignore the fact that the Seattle secondary have their hands all over the receivers all the time.


Just like every other decent secondary in the league. Yes, even san fran's.
 
2014-01-23 04:09:37 PM

AdmirableSnackbar: Sherman was only able to make the play he did because Kaepernick underthrew the ball


Ok, whatever you say.
 
2014-01-23 04:09:38 PM

stappawho: mikaloyd: The worse your opinion of Sherman's interview style

Someone should put a muzzle on that asshole.  Can't believe they let him speak in public.


He should teach interview styilngs, at Harvard or Stanford.
 
2014-01-23 04:10:11 PM

Nana's Vibrator: When there are 22 players on the field, no one would be surprised that all 22 were talking trash to each other and that even a few of them are assholes.  Sherman got up in front of the camera on national TV after winning the NFC Championship game and  took trash talk to a whole different level.


That's the concise description of what happened.  The rest is just fans for and against Seattle trying to spin it their own way.  Still, if your reaction was more than "what an asshole" followed by "I hope the Broncos stomp that jackass", you're making a little too much of it.  Football players are egotistical jerks in general.  The only difference between the rest of them and Sherman is that they know not to get in a reporters face and scream at her to the point that she is visibly afraid.

/maybe needs to adjust his adderall
 
2014-01-23 04:10:51 PM

Shame Us: Nana's Vibrator: Shame Us: sammyk: Am I racist if I just think he is an asshole of epic proportions?

I get feeling like he's an asshole, I just don't get the severity of people's feelings about the guy. It's insane. He talks trash - so did Jordan, so did Payton, so does Brady, so does Boldin, etc.

When there are 22 players on the field, no one would be surprised that all 22 were talking trash to each other and that even a few of them are assholes.  Sherman got up in front of the camera on national TV after winning the NFC Championship game and  took trash talk to a whole different level.  Whether people like it or not (most don't), you can probably only compare what Sherman did with... a couple of other things?  I can't think of many right now - I'm sure Bobby Knight did some really bad pointed rants, maybe Ryan Leaf screaming at the reporter, or Allen Iverson's "we talkin' 'bout...practice" rant.  And even then, those weren't done as directly or on as big a stage as this.  The scale is enormous.  It would seem the only thing bigger would be if someone did it at the Super Bowl or World Series / NBA Finals?.  "Mr Gorbachev, tear down that wall!"?

Maybe at their HOF speech?

Seriously, he was talking into a camera about one guy. Yes it was nationally televised, but there is no way you can say it's worse than what we know players say on the field. We have clear video of players in various sports calling people f*ggots and impugning their lineagewives/sisters etc.


Hey, how did I forget?
"George Bush doesn't care about black people"

Now that was trash talk!
 
2014-01-23 04:11:10 PM

stappawho: The_Sponge: Side note:

I give Kap props for telling Wilson to go out and win a ring.

I don't think he is as bad as people make him out to be.  He just isn't media savvy or the best at speaking in public.



Crap....I can't help myself:

Or the best at dressing up for post game press conferences.
 
2014-01-23 04:11:11 PM

spiderpaz: That might not be as funny if you didn't ignore the fact that the Seattle secondary have their hands all over the receivers all the time.


Same as every secondary in the league. Just like getting upset about pick plays is silly because everyone in the league runs 'em. Sorry your weak receivers can't get open, while our "mediocre" receivers beat your sorry corners.

Semper IvXx: Oh OK then. I forgot how good Doug Baldwin is I guess. Him and that other guy they have. Old what's his name. Big talent on that guy, I think he's only been cut four times.

/if you think any receiver on the Seahawks is as good as Crabtree when healthy you might be a delusional fan and not as informed as you pretend to be


Being ignorant doesn't make you right. And just because Crabtree can go off against Green Bay's awful defense (the only one in the league that can't figure out what to do with Kaepernick AT ALL), doesn't mean he can do anything against anyone good.
 
2014-01-23 04:11:27 PM

IAmRight: spiderpaz: Don't expect Harvin to come out guns blazing.  He's bound to be a little rusty considering he's been out all season and now is coming off a concussion.  The best use of Harvin will be as a distraction because D coordinators are afraid of what he might do.  Wouldn't surprise me if he jacks up a route or something and lets one get picked if they try to do too much with him too soon.

a) he's had all season to study
b) he's spent several years in Bevell's offensive system
c) I do agree that his biggest value is as a decoy, but I doubt he's going to screw things up. Didn't happen in either of the other two "first times."

/basically, all this talk about how ineffective the Seahawks' offense is is asinine. They're by far the best "weakest unit" of the two teams and that was without Harvin, who only makes them better in the few plays he's played


Obviously they're better with him than without him - that would be true of anyone though
 
2014-01-23 04:11:56 PM

IAmRight: square028: I think in maybe a season or two Crabtree can become that star WR.

In his 7th season he'll figure it out?


He's the Tim Tebow of receivers?
 
2014-01-23 04:12:12 PM

Shame Us: spiderpaz: IAmRight: AdmirableSnackbar: Crabtree had beaten Sherman

Wherein by beaten you mean "shoved Sherman in the back to illegally create separation"

That might not be as funny if you didn't ignore the fact that the Seattle secondary have their hands all over the receivers all the time.

Just like every other decent secondary in the league. Yes, even san fran's.


Yes, but why act like Crabtree putting hands back is any worse?
 
2014-01-23 04:12:12 PM

Semper IvXx: Oh OK then. I forgot how good Doug Baldwin is I guess. Him and that other guy they have. Old what's his name. Big talent on that guy, I think he's only been cut four times.


Are you talking about Tate? Rice? Harvin?

I think Lockette might be the only guy who's been cut repeatedly. Wait. Walters? Does he even play?
 
2014-01-23 04:13:32 PM

Shame Us: AdmirableSnackbar: Shame Us: AdmirableSnackbar: Shame Us: Hell, I'd say that Crabtree is below Kaepernick, Gore, Davis and Boldin as far as "skill" players on the Niners offense are concerned. So 5th best/most important player. That guy coming back is not going to drastically change your offense.

In terms of importance, maybe, but he's still a far better WR than Kaepernick is a QB.

If Kaepernick wasn't a mediocre - MEDIOCRE!!!! - QB San Fran wins that game.

Yeah - if the players on a team are better, they play better.

But that's why I think Sherman is an ass for what he said.  It takes all 11 players playing at a high level for any individual player to be great.  Calling out one guy whose success is extremely dependent upon another player is ignorant, especially when that other player (in this case, Kaepernick) was downright dreadful in that game.  Heck, on the game-clinching play Crabtree had beaten Sherman.  Sherman was only able to make the play he did because Kaepernick underthrew the ball. For some reason, people seem to think that Crabtree could control that and that Crabtree lost the matchup when that couldn't be further from the truth.

Crabtree was covered on the play. Sherman was right in front of him (until the little shove from Crabtree) and is 2 inches taller than him with longer arms. A fade route in the corner of the endzone (which would have been where Kaep wanted to throw it) over a taller DB standing infront of the receiver is not an open play. It is at best a jumpball where your WR has the disadvantage. The pass never should have been thrown and a fade vs. Sherman never should have been called.

Also, Sherman did acknowledge that he was sorry that he took away from his teammates' accolades and that he owes his success to them (specifically the D-Line and Earl Thomas).


It wouldn't have been a jump ball if it had been thrown properly.  The way it was thrown it was a jump ball at the front of the end zone.  It was only because the ball was underthrown that Sherman was able to extend and deflect the pass.  If it was deeper it's beyond his reach and Crabtree has a chance to make a back-corner catch while shielding Sherman off with his back.  Kaep was consistently underthrowing his passes all game, severely so on the two picks.
 
2014-01-23 04:13:46 PM

spiderpaz: Shame Us: spiderpaz: IAmRight: AdmirableSnackbar: Crabtree had beaten Sherman

Wherein by beaten you mean "shoved Sherman in the back to illegally create separation"

That might not be as funny if you didn't ignore the fact that the Seattle secondary have their hands all over the receivers all the time.

Just like every other decent secondary in the league. Yes, even san fran's.

Yes, but why act like Crabtree putting hands back is any worse?


I didn't act like that.
 
2014-01-23 04:14:28 PM
I mean it was wrong for Sherman to say that shiat but not so wrong. Just a little wrong. It seems like it is getting blown way out of proportion.

Sherman is a notorious trash talker. I have never liked him or the team or the fans. The white ones, black ones, whatever ones. He is also young and probably somewhat immature, thrust into a spotlight. He made a mistake. He has admitted it. His coach had admitted it. Tracy Porter didn't do that after either of his huge plays. Many people of all colors haven't after their moments of triumph. Michael Jordan comes to mind. This guy did. It's ok. Even though I don't like the kid, I think the whole thing is too much.

People just hate trash talkers. And they will hate them for whatever reason they can think of. If they are black, they will hate them for that. If they are a woman, they will also. If they are Southern, they will hate them for that. But those are after the fact. What they really hate is arrogance. 

It is great to think of yourself highly, but when you constantly do so by saying how much others' are so lesser than you, it shows not only an underlying insecurity, but also a very real disregard for the people who you play the game against, who are the main ingredient to your greatness, who are out there putting their bodies on the line and possibly facing CTE or ALS in their futures. Sherman owes Crabtree a lot actually. Without him, he has no foe. Without any of the other 31 teams in the NFL, Sherman has no job and much less livelihood. So I suppose there is a certain expectation that a reasonable amount of respect should be given. Mike Tyson has often spoke of his respect and love for them men he faced in the ring, even after threatening to eat their children and biting their ears off! Athletes owe a lot to each other as foes, to create the competition. Sherman should respect that.

Again, Sherman is a kid. He has been through a lot. He has probably never expected to be where he is. He certainly could have handled it better. It's easy for me to forgive him. It certainly has created enough drama to possibly be a distraction as the team heads to the Super Bowl.

Racist farkers on the internet shouldn't be dictating a national conversation on this. I don't know if it is good that they are (because it singles them out and exposes them) or bad (because it clouds the very important issue of race by creating a drama around something that has more to do with sportsmanship and maturity than race).
 
2014-01-23 04:15:39 PM

IAmRight: spiderpaz: That might not be as funny if you didn't ignore the fact that the Seattle secondary have their hands all over the receivers all the time.

Same as every secondary in the league. Just like getting upset about pick plays is silly because everyone in the league runs 'em. Sorry your weak receivers can't get open, while our "mediocre" receivers beat your sorry corners.


Our corners are sorry.  That's really why we lost.  Your offense was weak.  They let a hail mary bomb to Baldwin get completed on 4th and 7.  I'll have to agree with that point.  What's worse is that Carlos Rodgers got burned all season on the long passes and he's the highest paid player on the team.  Eric Reid being the free safety shares in the blame, but he's a 1st year rookie, so he gets a break.  If Rodgers is still on the team next year Balke needs to be fired.
 
2014-01-23 04:16:20 PM

spiderpaz: Obviously they're better with him than without him - that would be true of anyone though


My main point is that the Seahawks are 7th in the league in offensive DVOA with a constantly shuffling offensive line, missing Harvin and Rice for most of the season, etc. Now the line is healthy (if not consistently good), Harvin will be back, and he does make them better.

Calling them incapable would be beyond foolish, and acting as though they can't do it against a Denver defense that's significantly worse than anyone they've played over the last month and a half is just hilarious.

Shame Us: Walters? Does he even play?


I've seen him out there a couple of times, though they don't throw his way.

/would like to point out that we have WRs from Notre Dame, Stanford, and Cornell

spiderpaz: Yes, but why act like Crabtree putting hands back is any worse?


I didn't say it was worse - just laughing at the notion that Sherman was actually out of position.
 
2014-01-23 04:17:11 PM

AdmirableSnackbar: It wouldn't have been a jump ball if it had been thrown properly. The way it was thrown it was a jump ball at the front of the end zone. It was only because the ball was underthrown that Sherman was able to extend and deflect the pass. If it was deeper it's beyond his reach and Crabtree has a chance to make a back-corner catch while shielding Sherman off with his back. Kaep was consistently underthrowing his passes all game, severely so on the two picks.


Yu're assuming that had Kaep thrown the pass deeper into the endzone, Sherman would have played it exactly the same way? Crabtree would have too? If the ball is throw 5 yards deeper, the two guys aren't going to be playing for it the same way. Sherman wouldn't have leapt for the ball 5 yards short and Crabtree would have kept running toward the back of the endzone.

The fact is that Sherman doesn't give up the fade. They've tried a handful of times this season and the best outcome has been an incomplete pass. He has now tipped passes to his teammates twice on fades.
 
2014-01-23 04:17:18 PM

stappawho: He's got like 3 or 4 catches on the year.

But, point taken.


Huh. I honestly did not know that. Now I am not as interested. I don't think anyone will do research on whether or not someone's fifth catch of the year came in the super bowl. Just doesn't have the same ring to it that second would...
 
2014-01-23 04:19:14 PM
Who is going to be the 1st Seahawk fan to rage quit Fark because of all the negative Seahawk/Sherman greens?
 
2014-01-23 04:19:18 PM

JohnBigBootay: stappawho: He's got like 3 or 4 catches on the year.

But, point taken.

Huh. I honestly did not know that. Now I am not as interested. I don't think anyone will do research on whether or not someone's fifth catch of the year came in the super bowl. Just doesn't have the same ring to it that second would...


Y'know - David Tyree didn't have much impact before that Super Bowl. That may have only been his 5th or 6th catch,
 
2014-01-23 04:19:39 PM

spiderpaz: get in a reporters face and scream at her to the point that she is visibly afraid.


Ok, whatever you say.
 
2014-01-23 04:20:42 PM
www.lynettelewis.com
 
2014-01-23 04:21:03 PM

JohnBigBootay: Huh. I honestly did not know that. Now I am not as interested. I don't think anyone will do research on whether or not someone's fifth catch of the year came in the super bowl. Just doesn't have the same ring to it that second would...


Darn, I had an idea, but Tyree's first Super Bowl catch was his sixth (four regular season, one postseason).
 
2014-01-23 04:21:07 PM

spiderpaz: Nana's Vibrator: When there are 22 players on the field, no one would be surprised that all 22 were talking trash to each other and that even a few of them are assholes.  Sherman got up in front of the camera on national TV after winning the NFC Championship game and  took trash talk to a whole different level.

That's the concise description of what happened.  The rest is just fans for and against Seattle trying to spin it their own way.  Still, if your reaction was more than "what an asshole" followed by "I hope the Broncos stomp that jackass", you're making a little too much of it.  Football players are egotistical jerks in general.  The only difference between the rest of them and Sherman is that they know not to get in a reporters face and scream at her to the point that she is visibly afraid.

/maybe needs to adjust his adderall


What reporter was afraid of him? It wasn't the one that said he didn't scare her at all. Maybe his outburst scared you while you were watching it on TV because you are a little wimp, but it didn't scare the reporter that interviewed him.
 
2014-01-23 04:21:23 PM

qorkfiend: On a side note, if Kennedy had been shot in the 24-hour cable news era, you bet your ass that the Zapruder film would have been analyzed nonstop.


And everyone would have captured it on smart phone rendering the Zapruder film an accessory to a better angle.

As for this Sherman media coverage...
www.fugly.com
 
2014-01-23 04:21:39 PM

Shame Us: Crabtree was covered on the play. Sherman was right in front of him (until the little shove from Crabtree) and is 2 inches taller than him with longer arms. A fade route in the corner of the endzone (which would have been where Kaep wanted to throw it) over a taller DB standing infront of the receiver is not an open play. It is at best a jumpball where your WR has the disadvantage. The pass never should have been thrown and a fade vs. Sherman never should have been called.


It was one of those plays where, maybe, 5 quarterbacks could have dumped it right in the corner and potentially made it past Sherman, but Kaep is just not one of those guys.

And, yes, Sherman is not your average 5'10" corner, so it was a very risky decision.
 
2014-01-23 04:22:37 PM

Shame Us: Seriously, he was talking into a camera about one guy. Yes it was nationally televised, but there is no way you can say it's worse than what we know players say on the field. We have clear video of players in various sports calling people f*ggots and impugning their lineagewives/sisters etc.


The odd thing is that most all the other trash talkers spew their crap during a game at the person to whom they are trash talking. They almost never mistake an aprez-game interview camera for the intended target of their trash talking. That is the puzzling aspect of this whole misunderstanding. Could the camera have resembled Crabtree somehow?
 
2014-01-23 04:22:44 PM

stappawho: sammyk: Am I racist if I just think he is an asshole of epic proportions?

Nope, just ignorant.


Haven't you guys heard? Richard Sherman is a shoe-in for the Nobel Peace prize, the Presidential Medal of Freedom, and he's due to be cannonized by the RC Church shortly after those ceremonies are done.

All hail Sherman!! All hail Sherman!!
 
2014-01-23 04:23:00 PM

stappawho: spiderpaz: get in a reporters face and scream at her to the point that she is visibly afraid.

Ok, whatever you say.


I certainly have been a proponent that his antics were "thuggish" in that interview...but she was not afraid...she was taken back by how emotional and angry he seemed to be...but she wasn't 'afraid', let along 'visibly afraid'.
 
2014-01-23 04:23:32 PM
I'm waiting for Sherman to don a Predator mask with those dreads.
 
2014-01-23 04:24:34 PM

I'm over it now: All hail Sherman!! All hail Sherman!!


sheepranch.typepad.com
 
2014-01-23 04:25:12 PM

epyonyx: I'm waiting for Sherman to don a Predator mask with those dreads.


...

That would be kinda awesome.
 
2014-01-23 04:25:16 PM

PluckYew: Who is going to be the 1st Seahawk fan to rage quit Fark because of all the negative Seahawk/Sherman greens?


It's not the Seahawks fans that are raging.
 
2014-01-23 04:25:22 PM

epyonyx: I'm waiting for Sherman to don a Predator mask with those dreads.


Heheheh, now don't give him any ideas. XD
 
2014-01-23 04:25:32 PM

Shame Us: AdmirableSnackbar: It wouldn't have been a jump ball if it had been thrown properly. The way it was thrown it was a jump ball at the front of the end zone. It was only because the ball was underthrown that Sherman was able to extend and deflect the pass. If it was deeper it's beyond his reach and Crabtree has a chance to make a back-corner catch while shielding Sherman off with his back. Kaep was consistently underthrowing his passes all game, severely so on the two picks.

Yu're assuming that had Kaep thrown the pass deeper into the endzone, Sherman would have played it exactly the same way? Crabtree would have too? If the ball is throw 5 yards deeper, the two guys aren't going to be playing for it the same way. Sherman wouldn't have leapt for the ball 5 yards short and Crabtree would have kept running toward the back of the endzone.

The fact is that Sherman doesn't give up the fade. They've tried a handful of times this season and the best outcome has been an incomplete pass. He has now tipped passes to his teammates twice on fades.


That play was entirely Kaep's fault.  Unless it's fourth down, it makes no sense trying to squeeze that pass in against a tall corner like Sherman.  He could have thrown it away, looked for another option, or just scrambled for 2 or 3 yards.  If he'd thrown it deeper, at least it may not have been at risk of being intercepted.  Good QB's thrown it where nobody but the receiver can catch it, even if it makes it harder to get to.

It's not his fault they lost though.  With someone that couldn't run like him, they would have never been able to get the opportunities they got.  His legs are what made it so possible to move the ball against Seattle.  It was a battle down to the wire because he brought an X factor that leveled the scale.  Manning's going to face some tighter coverage because they don't have to worry one iota about him scrambling.
 
2014-01-23 04:26:14 PM

IAmRight: Darn, I had an idea, but Tyree's first Super Bowl catch was his sixth (four regular season, one postseason).


If harvin makes some amazing drive-extending miracle catch the 'guy with less than ten catches making a huge play' will definitely become a thing in future super bowls.
 
2014-01-23 04:26:34 PM

mikaloyd: Shame Us: Seriously, he was talking into a camera about one guy. Yes it was nationally televised, but there is no way you can say it's worse than what we know players say on the field. We have clear video of players in various sports calling people f*ggots and impugning their lineagewives/sisters etc.

The odd thing is that most all the other trash talkers spew their crap during a game at the person to whom they are trash talking. They almost never mistake an aprez-game interview camera for the intended target of their trash talking. That is the puzzling aspect of this whole misunderstanding. Could the camera have resembled Crabtree somehow?


Yeah. That part is the issue, I think. Not what he said, or who he said it about, but the fact that the public was seeing what is usually reserved for on-field interactions, a la his trash talk with Pierre Garcon last season in the wildcard round. I think that because it was so late in the game and because Crabtree treated his "Helluva game" handshake deal with open contempt, it fed into the rant.

No, this is not me defending what he said, how he said it or who he said it to/at. Just saying that I can see where it seems to have come from. As a Seahawks fan, I wish he hadn't done it that way.
 
2014-01-23 04:26:47 PM

mikaloyd: Shame Us: Seriously, he was talking into a camera about one guy. Yes it was nationally televised, but there is no way you can say it's worse than what we know players say on the field. We have clear video of players in various sports calling people f*ggots and impugning their lineagewives/sisters etc.

The odd thing is that most all the other trash talkers spew their crap during a game at the person to whom they are trash talking. They almost never mistake an aprez-game interview camera for the intended target of their trash talking. That is the puzzling aspect of this whole misunderstanding. Could the camera have resembled Crabtree somehow?


Maybe if Crabtree hadn't shoved him in the face after he tried to shake his hand and congratulate him on a good game, he wouldn't have felt the need to tell the world how much of a mediocre receiver he is.
 
2014-01-23 04:27:59 PM
YOU'RE ALL MAKING BABY JESUS CRY

NOW STAHP
 
2014-01-23 04:29:01 PM
If you slow it way down, you can see Crabtree tripping over the grassy knoll. What the hell is a grassy knoll doing in the end zone?
 
2014-01-23 04:29:11 PM

WhyKnot: stappawho: spiderpaz: get in a reporters face and scream at her to the point that she is visibly afraid.

Ok, whatever you say.

I certainly have been a proponent that his antics were "thuggish" in that interview...but she was not afraid...she was taken back by how emotional and angry he seemed to be...but she wasn't 'afraid', let along 'visibly afraid'.


There was a perfectly human reaction to someone shouting 5 inches from your face.

"You expect these guys to play like maniacs and animals for 60 minutes," Erin Andrews told USA TODAY "And then 90 seconds after he makes a career-defining, game-changing play, I'm gonna be mad because he's not giving me a cliché answer, 'That's what Seahawks football is all about and that's what we came to do and we practice for those situations.' No you don't. That was awesome. That was so awesome. And I loved it."
 
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