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2014-01-23 03:02:08 PM  
Well, why DID they try him with a sorry receiver like Crabtree?

/ducks out of thread
 
2014-01-23 03:03:45 PM  

Phil Moskowitz: But no one saw what D'glester Hardunkichud said at half time. It's all just water under the bridge with that guy.


pixel.nymag.com

"I could talk about Fudge all day."
 
2014-01-23 03:05:53 PM  
Black and of big heft. Black and of big heft...
 
2014-01-23 03:06:45 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Phil Moskowitz: But no one saw what D'glester Hardunkichud said at half time. It's all just water under the bridge with that guy.

[pixel.nymag.com image 190x190]

"I could talk about Fudge all day."


Although, Nyquillus is my favorite.
content.clearchannel.com
 
2014-01-23 03:08:50 PM  

Bunny Deville: [farm8.staticflickr.com image 366x395 SHUT UP PIC]


But we are talking about Sherman

Doodloo doodlooo doodloo doo
Dooo doo doo dooo dooo doodooo doo
 
Sherman
Whos the black public dick
Thats a sex machine to reporter chix
Sherman!
Damn right!
Who is the man
Who would dis crabtree for Seahwkjs fans
(Sherman)
Can ya dig it?
Who's the cat that wont shut up
Bout why crabtree got up his but?
(Sherman)
right on
You see this cat Sherman is a bad thugger-m...
(SHUT YOUR MOUTH)
But Im talkin bout Sherman
(then you a racist)
He's a complicated man
That only his 12th man understands
(Dick Sherman)
 
2014-01-23 03:10:32 PM  

Robert1966: I was impressed by Sherman's follow-up. It seems he got worked up and made an ass of himself, and now feels a little foolish but stands by his expressions of confidence and his feeling that he had been disrespected by someone who is too lazy to play as well as he does. I don't know that there is a racial angle to it, but I guess people on both sides like to put one there.


i said the other day dude was SURGING on adrenalin.  he was about 2-3 minutes (if that) removed from the final whistle, realizing he'd achieved a lifelong dream:  THE SUPER BOWL.  yeah he wsa jacked.  he looked silly and it was exceedingly poor sportsmanship, but, he was just pulsing with adrenalin.

and as i also said, NBC or whomever, fox, whatever, they knew wha tthey were getting.  they specifically chose sherman, knowing he'd go operation codename:  richard sherman.  he went operation codename:  richard sherman and then the network aborted the interview (per dan patrick today;  erin andrews said she wsa told to cut it short).


and once agian, i loved Daryl Wright's tweet:  "dear media:  how about you quit sending erin andrews to interview n___s on live tv?"
 
2014-01-23 03:12:47 PM  

Super Chronic: Well, why DID they try him with a sorry receiver like Crabtree?

/ducks out of thread


Yeah that's one thing lost in all of this was that the other time Crabtree was lined up with Sherman, it resulted in a defensive holding penalty. Crabtree picked up his 4/52 yards when it was someone else not named Sherman covering him. It's just remarkable that the only other time in the game the ball was thrown to Crabtree and Sherman was covering him, that happened and we are where we are.

Crabtree has pretty solid hands. Route running and shaking off defenders will get better over time, but when the best corner is covering you (someone who used to play the WR position and very safe to assume still knows the general tendencies of any WR) yeah the defender is going to win out most of the time.

Regardless of who you were rooting for (if you had an interest) it was a helluva game and probably will be in the top ten of best games of the season.
 
2014-01-23 03:18:49 PM  

square028: Crabtree has pretty solid hands. Route running and shaking off defenders will get better over time, but when the best corner is covering you (someone who used to play the WR position and very safe to assume still knows the general tendencies of any WR) yeah the defender is going to win out most of the time.


One of his catches came with Maxwell draped all over him.  Kaep just managed to squeeze it by Maxwell somehow.  So, yeah, Davis was out, Boldin had been locked down, and it's supposed to be up to the "star" WR to win the game with an awesome catch.
 
2014-01-23 03:19:39 PM  
I like Richard Sherman, there I said it.

/49er fan
//as much as I'm a fan of any PRO team
///AnchorDown
 
2014-01-23 03:21:27 PM  

Arkanaut: Has anyone played the audio from the interview backwards to search for any Satanic messages?


I did. I didn't find any satanic messages, but there is a recipe for a delicious coffee cake.
 
2014-01-23 03:22:07 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: square028: Crabtree has pretty solid hands. Route running and shaking off defenders will get better over time, but when the best corner is covering you (someone who used to play the WR position and very safe to assume still knows the general tendencies of any WR) yeah the defender is going to win out most of the time.

One of his catches came with Maxwell draped all over him.  Kaep just managed to squeeze it by Maxwell somehow.  So, yeah, Davis was out, Boldin had been locked down, and it's supposed to be up to the "star" WR to win the game with an awesome catch.


I think in maybe a season or two Crabtree can become that star WR. And I say that as a Seahawk fan that isn't caught up in this "where the fark did this come from" venomous hate towards the 49ers (likely because YAY SPORTS!). That said, a buddy of mine who is a 49ers fan said in his words, "Crabtree needs to figure out how to run faster than my grandmother."
 
2014-01-23 03:24:53 PM  

Arkanaut: Has anyone played the audio from the interview backwards to search for any Satanic messages?


"Mommy my chair is broken"

/obscure
 
2014-01-23 03:25:33 PM  

Whatthefark: Arkanaut: Has anyone played the audio from the interview backwards to search for any Satanic messages?

I did. I didn't find any satanic messages, but there is a recipe for a delicious coffee cake.


Well since he went to Stanford, obviously he's gonna gather some of his VC cronies and either open up a bakery where every order is yelled at you because that's apparently what he does. Or he sells the recipe to Starbucks where they sell a 1" slice for $5.95.
 
2014-01-23 03:26:16 PM  
For those of you that don't know Key and Peele, I give you...

Collegiate Bowl I

Collegiate Bowl II

You're welcome.
 
2014-01-23 03:29:02 PM  

mikaloyd: Bunny Deville: [farm8.staticflickr.com image 366x395 SHUT UP PIC]

But we are talking about Sherman

Doodloo doodlooo doodloo doo
Dooo doo doo dooo dooo doodooo doo
 
Sherman
Whos the black public dick
Thats a sex machine to reporter chix
Sherman!
Damn right!
Who is the man
Who would dis crabtree for Seahwkjs fans
(Sherman)
Can ya dig it?
Who's the cat that wont shut up
Bout why crabtree got up his but?
(Sherman)
right on
You see this cat Sherman is a bad thugger-m...
(SHUT YOUR MOUTH)
But Im talkin bout Sherman
(then you a racist)
He's a complicated man
That only his 12th man understands
(Dick Sherman)


nicely done
 
2014-01-23 03:29:42 PM  

square028: I think in maybe a season or two Crabtree can become that star WR.


In his 7th season he'll figure it out?
 
2014-01-23 03:29:43 PM  

square028: whizbangthedirtfarmer: square028: Crabtree has pretty solid hands. Route running and shaking off defenders will get better over time, but when the best corner is covering you (someone who used to play the WR position and very safe to assume still knows the general tendencies of any WR) yeah the defender is going to win out most of the time.

One of his catches came with Maxwell draped all over him.  Kaep just managed to squeeze it by Maxwell somehow.  So, yeah, Davis was out, Boldin had been locked down, and it's supposed to be up to the "star" WR to win the game with an awesome catch.

I think in maybe a season or two Crabtree can become that star WR. And I say that as a Seahawk fan that isn't caught up in this "where the fark did this come from" venomous hate towards the 49ers (likely because YAY SPORTS!). That said, a buddy of mine who is a 49ers fan said in his words, "Crabtree needs to figure out how to run faster than my grandmother."


With a full offseason of rehab, he should come back faster. The expectations of how a guy coming off of an Achilles tear would open up the offense were way too high. Also, let's be clear, he had one 1100 yd season. It's not like Megatron was out for 2/3 of the year here. I'd argue that he was probably the 3rd or 4th most important offensive weapon for them, anyway.
 
2014-01-23 03:33:07 PM  
I'm not trying to be racist here, but I really like Richard Sherman's enthusiasm and intensity. Not trying to offend anyone, that's just how I feel. I also wish we had taken him instead of Davon House.
 
2014-01-23 03:33:20 PM  

Shame Us: square028: whizbangthedirtfarmer: square028: Crabtree has pretty solid hands. Route running and shaking off defenders will get better over time, but when the best corner is covering you (someone who used to play the WR position and very safe to assume still knows the general tendencies of any WR) yeah the defender is going to win out most of the time.

One of his catches came with Maxwell draped all over him.  Kaep just managed to squeeze it by Maxwell somehow.  So, yeah, Davis was out, Boldin had been locked down, and it's supposed to be up to the "star" WR to win the game with an awesome catch.

I think in maybe a season or two Crabtree can become that star WR. And I say that as a Seahawk fan that isn't caught up in this "where the fark did this come from" venomous hate towards the 49ers (likely because YAY SPORTS!). That said, a buddy of mine who is a 49ers fan said in his words, "Crabtree needs to figure out how to run faster than my grandmother."

With a full offseason of rehab, he should come back faster. The expectations of how a guy coming off of an Achilles tear would open up the offense were way too high. Also, let's be clear, he had one 1100 yd season. It's not like Megatron was out for 2/3 of the year here. I'd argue that he was probably the 3rd or 4th most important offensive weapon for them, anyway.


I agree completely.
 
2014-01-23 03:33:25 PM  
Hell, I'd say that Crabtree is below Kaepernick, Gore, Davis and Boldin as far as "skill" players on the Niners offense are concerned. So 5th best/most important player. That guy coming back is not going to drastically change your offense.
 
2014-01-23 03:35:51 PM  
And this is why there should be only one week between the NFC/AFC championship games and the Super Bowl.
 
2014-01-23 03:36:12 PM  

Shame Us: The expectations of how a guy coming off of an Achilles tear would open up the offense were way too high


The amount his impact was overstated was ridiculous, as well.

49ers offense without Crabtree: 24.91 points/game
49ers offense with Crabtree: 24.38 points/game

WHOA WHAT A HUGE WEAPON!
 
2014-01-23 03:37:54 PM  

browneye: And this is why there should be only one week between the NFC/AFC championship games and the Super Bowl.


But...but....PRO BOWL!
And to be fair, the Royal Rumble is this Sunday.

Safe pick: CM Punk
Dark horse pick: Dean Ambrose
Won't happen but why the fark not: Someone from 3MB
 
2014-01-23 03:39:18 PM  

Shame Us: square028: whizbangthedirtfarmer: square028: Crabtree has pretty solid hands. Route running and shaking off defenders will get better over time, but when the best corner is covering you (someone who used to play the WR position and very safe to assume still knows the general tendencies of any WR) yeah the defender is going to win out most of the time.

One of his catches came with Maxwell draped all over him.  Kaep just managed to squeeze it by Maxwell somehow.  So, yeah, Davis was out, Boldin had been locked down, and it's supposed to be up to the "star" WR to win the game with an awesome catch.

I think in maybe a season or two Crabtree can become that star WR. And I say that as a Seahawk fan that isn't caught up in this "where the fark did this come from" venomous hate towards the 49ers (likely because YAY SPORTS!). That said, a buddy of mine who is a 49ers fan said in his words, "Crabtree needs to figure out how to run faster than my grandmother."

With a full offseason of rehab, he should come back faster. The expectations of how a guy coming off of an Achilles tear would open up the offense were way too high. Also, let's be clear, he had one 1100 yd season. It's not like Megatron was out for 2/3 of the year here. I'd argue that he was probably the 3rd or 4th most important offensive weapon for them, anyway.


I've noticed, and this may be just because of his injury history, that he will avoid a catch to save the big hit.  He dropped a fairly routine pass in the SEA game because he saw Chancellor bearing down on him.

\to be fair, I don't blame him
\\wonder if SF did concussion protocol on Davis?  He looked woozy
 
2014-01-23 03:40:26 PM  
The only way this could have been better is if he would have ripped Andrew's shirt off and screamed "Omaha Omaha" as he grabbed her boobies.
 
2014-01-23 03:41:14 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: \\wonder if SF did concussion protocol on Davis?  He looked woozy


Surprised no one has taken that hit and given it the Jim Ross treatment. Yet.
 
2014-01-23 03:43:40 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Shame Us: square028: whizbangthedirtfarmer: square028: Crabtree has pretty solid hands. Route running and shaking off defenders will get better over time, but when the best corner is covering you (someone who used to play the WR position and very safe to assume still knows the general tendencies of any WR) yeah the defender is going to win out most of the time.

One of his catches came with Maxwell draped all over him.  Kaep just managed to squeeze it by Maxwell somehow.  So, yeah, Davis was out, Boldin had been locked down, and it's supposed to be up to the "star" WR to win the game with an awesome catch.

I think in maybe a season or two Crabtree can become that star WR. And I say that as a Seahawk fan that isn't caught up in this "where the fark did this come from" venomous hate towards the 49ers (likely because YAY SPORTS!). That said, a buddy of mine who is a 49ers fan said in his words, "Crabtree needs to figure out how to run faster than my grandmother."

With a full offseason of rehab, he should come back faster. The expectations of how a guy coming off of an Achilles tear would open up the offense were way too high. Also, let's be clear, he had one 1100 yd season. It's not like Megatron was out for 2/3 of the year here. I'd argue that he was probably the 3rd or 4th most important offensive weapon for them, anyway.

I've noticed, and this may be just because of his injury history, that he will avoid a catch to save the big hit.  He dropped a fairly routine pass in the SEA game because he saw Chancellor bearing down on him.

\to be fair, I don't blame him
\\wonder if SF did concussion protocol on Davis?  He looked woozy


They had an article up a few weeks ago about the Chancellor Effect on receivers and tight ends. I think it was on ESPN. They had 5 separate instances of players altering their play or flat-out dropping to the ground.going OOB to avoid Chancellor. The hilarious one was Kellen Clemons actually trying to wave Kam off and sliding when he was running with the ball.
 
2014-01-23 03:45:59 PM  
Am I racist if I just think he is an asshole of epic proportions?
 
2014-01-23 03:48:29 PM  

sammyk: Am I racist if I just think he is an asshole of epic proportions?


Not at all.
 
2014-01-23 03:48:40 PM  

Shame Us: Hell, I'd say that Crabtree is below Kaepernick, Gore, Davis and Boldin as far as "skill" players on the Niners offense are concerned. So 5th best/most important player. That guy coming back is not going to drastically change your offense.


In terms of importance, maybe, but he's still a far better WR than Kaepernick is a QB.

If Kaepernick wasn't a mediocre - MEDIOCRE!!!! - QB San Fran wins that game.
 
2014-01-23 03:48:50 PM  

sammyk: Am I racist if I just think he is an asshole of epic proportions?


Nope, just ignorant.
 
2014-01-23 03:49:09 PM  

sammyk: Am I racist if I just think he is an asshole of epic proportions?


Nah, you're just kinda bitter and sorry.
 
2014-01-23 03:49:14 PM  

browneye: And this is why there should be only one week between the NFC/AFC championship games and the Super Bowl.



Noooooooo!

How else do you expect Harvin to get healthy?!

/I keed.
//Amusing as hell if he takes SB MVP.
 
2014-01-23 03:50:10 PM  

sammyk: Am I racist if I just think he is an asshole of epic proportions?


I get feeling like he's an asshole, I just don't get the severity of people's feelings about the guy. It's insane. He talks trash - so did Jordan, so did Payton, so does Brady, so does Boldin, etc.
 
2014-01-23 03:50:45 PM  

The_Sponge: browneye: And this is why there should be only one week between the NFC/AFC championship games and the Super Bowl.


Noooooooo!

How else do you expect Harvin to get healthy?!

/I keed.
//Amusing as hell if he takes SB MVP.


He's probably still running around the VMAC saying he's Batman.
 
2014-01-23 03:51:18 PM  

square028: He's probably still running around the VMAC saying he's Batman.



Lulz.
 
2014-01-23 03:52:51 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Shame Us: Hell, I'd say that Crabtree is below Kaepernick, Gore, Davis and Boldin as far as "skill" players on the Niners offense are concerned. So 5th best/most important player. That guy coming back is not going to drastically change your offense.

In terms of importance, maybe, but he's still a far better WR than Kaepernick is a QB.

If Kaepernick wasn't a mediocre - MEDIOCRE!!!! - QB San Fran wins that game.


Yeah - if the players on a team are better, they play better.
 
2014-01-23 03:53:03 PM  
Side note:

I give Kap props for telling Wilson to go out and win a ring.
 
2014-01-23 03:53:51 PM  

square028: The_Sponge: browneye: And this is why there should be only one week between the NFC/AFC championship games and the Super Bowl.


Noooooooo!

How else do you expect Harvin to get healthy?!

/I keed.
//Amusing as hell if he takes SB MVP.

He's probably still running around the VMAC saying he's Batman.


He is running around the VMAC. It's just that he's practicing fully.
 
2014-01-23 03:54:05 PM  

sammyk: Am I racist if I just think he is an asshole of epic proportions?


The worse your opinion of Sherman's interview style, the more racist you are. Now if you only thought he was a micro asshole youd only be a tiny bit racist. As it is though, on the sliding racism scale, you are a little worse than Paula Deen or Jesse Jackson but not nearly as bad as Hitler.
 
2014-01-23 03:54:05 PM  

IAmRight: WHOA WHAT A HUGE WEAPON!


I think it's been previously established that Crabtree is no Megatron.

On the other hand you are on record as saying it will be "tough" for the broncos to defend against a guy who has one catch this season. And that same guy's best season receiving the ball looks like a damn xerox copy of Crabtree's best season receiving. Not that Harvin won't catch a ball. Just that I doubt they are spending a ton of time game-planning for him.

On a historical note I find myself wondering if there's ever been a guy whose second catch of the year came in the super bowl. Maybe so but I am not going to be the one looking that up!
 
2014-01-23 03:57:02 PM  

IAmRight: Shame Us: The expectations of how a guy coming off of an Achilles tear would open up the offense were way too high

The amount his impact was overstated was ridiculous, as well.

49ers offense without Crabtree: 24.91 points/game
49ers offense with Crabtree: 24.38 points/game

WHOA WHAT A HUGE WEAPON!


And yet, better than any receiver on the Seahawks.

/Sherman probably recognizes mediocre receivers from seeing them in practice all day
//except Harvin, that guy is elite in the trainers room
 
2014-01-23 03:58:10 PM  

Shame Us: AdmirableSnackbar: Shame Us: Hell, I'd say that Crabtree is below Kaepernick, Gore, Davis and Boldin as far as "skill" players on the Niners offense are concerned. So 5th best/most important player. That guy coming back is not going to drastically change your offense.

In terms of importance, maybe, but he's still a far better WR than Kaepernick is a QB.

If Kaepernick wasn't a mediocre - MEDIOCRE!!!! - QB San Fran wins that game.

Yeah - if the players on a team are better, they play better.


But that's why I think Sherman is an ass for what he said.  It takes all 11 players playing at a high level for any individual player to be great.  Calling out one guy whose success is extremely dependent upon another player is ignorant, especially when that other player (in this case, Kaepernick) was downright dreadful in that game.  Heck, on the game-clinching play Crabtree had beaten Sherman.  Sherman was only able to make the play he did because Kaepernick underthrew the ball. For some reason, people seem to think that Crabtree could control that and that Crabtree lost the matchup when that couldn't be further from the truth.
 
2014-01-23 03:58:40 PM  

JohnBigBootay: On the other hand you are on record as saying it will be "tough" for the broncos to defend against a guy who has one catch this season.


A) he has four now - he made three against the Saints before they cheap-shotted his way out of that game
B) it's tough to defend something you haven't seen much of on film
C) he makes much more of an impact on other receivers' ability to get open than Crabtree does, due to his speed and how he's used
 
2014-01-23 03:58:57 PM  

JohnBigBootay: IAmRight: WHOA WHAT A HUGE WEAPON!

I think it's been previously established that Crabtree is no Megatron.

On the other hand you are on record as saying it will be "tough" for the broncos to defend against a guy who has one catch this season. And that same guy's best season receiving the ball looks like a damn xerox copy of Crabtree's best season receiving. Not that Harvin won't catch a ball. Just that I doubt they are spending a ton of time game-planning for him.

On a historical note I find myself wondering if there's ever been a guy whose second catch of the year came in the super bowl. Maybe so but I am not going to be the one looking that up!


Harvin had 3 catches and a rush in the Saints game.
 
2014-01-23 03:59:50 PM  

Semper IvXx: And yet, better than any receiver on the Seahawks.


Not really.

AdmirableSnackbar: Crabtree had beaten Sherman


Wherein by beaten you mean "shoved Sherman in the back to illegally create separation"
 
2014-01-23 03:59:53 PM  
Richard Sherman is such a thug, Justin Bieber wants to hang out with him.
 
2014-01-23 04:01:43 PM  
 
2014-01-23 04:02:45 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Shame Us: AdmirableSnackbar: Shame Us: Hell, I'd say that Crabtree is below Kaepernick, Gore, Davis and Boldin as far as "skill" players on the Niners offense are concerned. So 5th best/most important player. That guy coming back is not going to drastically change your offense.

In terms of importance, maybe, but he's still a far better WR than Kaepernick is a QB.

If Kaepernick wasn't a mediocre - MEDIOCRE!!!! - QB San Fran wins that game.

Yeah - if the players on a team are better, they play better.

But that's why I think Sherman is an ass for what he said.  It takes all 11 players playing at a high level for any individual player to be great.  Calling out one guy whose success is extremely dependent upon another player is ignorant, especially when that other player (in this case, Kaepernick) was downright dreadful in that game.  Heck, on the game-clinching play Crabtree had beaten Sherman.  Sherman was only able to make the play he did because Kaepernick underthrew the ball. For some reason, people seem to think that Crabtree could control that and that Crabtree lost the matchup when that couldn't be further from the truth.


Crabtree was covered on the play. Sherman was right in front of him (until the little shove from Crabtree) and is 2 inches taller than him with longer arms. A fade route in the corner of the endzone (which would have been where Kaep wanted to throw it) over a taller DB standing infront of the receiver is not an open play. It is at best a jumpball where your WR has the disadvantage. The pass never should have been thrown and a fade vs. Sherman never should have been called.

Also, Sherman did acknowledge that he was sorry that he took away from his teammates' accolades and that he owes his success to them (specifically the D-Line and Earl Thomas).
 
2014-01-23 04:03:29 PM  
On a side note, if Kennedy had been shot in the 24-hour cable news era, you bet your ass that the Zapruder film would have been analyzed nonstop.
 
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