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LETS DO IT AGAIN!!

Yes and upon further inspection we found RACISTS RACISTS EVERYWHERE ZOMG RACISTS!

We will know that Sherman's interview style has jumped the shark once a political analyst chimes in with "This is an uncomfortable discussion that America has needed to have for a long time"

I bet he probably robbed a liquor store and did a driveby before the game.
Typical thug. he's from Compton, you know how it goes with them...

mikaloyd: We will know that Sherman's interview style has jumped the shark once a political analyst chimes in with "This is an uncomfortable discussion that America has needed to have for a long time"

Has MSNBC not gotten there yet? Weird.

=

Yet, we can count on all the Seahawk "faithful" to post dozens of times in this thread.

mikaloyd: We will know that Sherman's interview style has jumped the shark once a political analyst chimes in with "This is an uncomfortable discussion that America has needed to have for a long time"

I'm pretty sure Grantland already did it

LessO2: Yet, we can count on all the Seahawk "faithful" to post dozens of times in this thread.

Then why are you here?

"faithful"? Like with air quotes?

Keep posting, I love it when you prove me right.

On the bright side, now Seattle fans gets to feel like Vikings fans did when Favre was at the helm and the most hated player in the NFL due to the media hype. So that's... something.

LessO2: Keep posting, I love it when you prove me right.

Put the penis back in the pants.

doubled99: I bet he probably robbed a liquor store and did a driveby before the game.
Typical thug. he's from Compton, you know how it goes with them...

oh god.  First the robbery, then the drive by, then the near perfect GPA at the university, then the NFL draft, then the screaming at a camera on national TV.  If I've seen it once, I've seen it a million times.

doubled99: I bet he probably robbed a liquor store and did a driveby before the game.
Typical thug. he's from Compton, you know how it goes with them...

He also went to Stanford and is getting his masters there.  But please, do continue with the stereotypical hogwash you spew.

justtray: On the bright side, now Seattle fans gets to feel like Vikings fans did when Favre was at the helm and the most hated player in the NFL due to the media hype. So that's... something.

Also theyve never won a super bowl yet

I really just like how smart he is.  Did you know he went to Stanford?

LessO2: Yet, we can count on all the Seahawk "faithful" to post dozens of times in this thread.

Hell, I'd defend him...and I'm not even a She-hawks fan.

/Love the story with him and Larry Fitzgerald
//Disarms him and Sherman can't do shiat~! XD

Rwa2play: doubled99: I bet he probably robbed a liquor store and did a driveby before the game.
Typical thug. he's from Compton, you know how it goes with them...

He also went to Stanford and is getting his masters there.  But please, do continue with the stereotypical hogwash you spew.

I'm like 99% sure this was facetious.

Has anyone played the audio from the interview backwards to search for any Satanic messages?

Again.

He should have just killed someone.

You'd all be done talking about it 5 days later.

mikaloyd: justtray: On the bright side, now Seattle fans gets to feel like Vikings fans did when Favre was at the helm and the most hated player in the NFL due to the media hype. So that's... something.

Also theyve never won a super bowl yet

Really?  I wasn't aware of that.

Rwa2play: LessO2: Yet, we can count on all the Seahawk "faithful" to post dozens of times in this thread.

Hell, I'd defend him...and I'm not even a She-hawks fan.

/Love the story with him and Larry Fitzgerald
//Disarms him and Sherman can't do shiat~! XD

That's the difference, if you're cool to Sherman, he's fine with you. He has tons of respect for who Fitz is and his abilities on the football field and he treats him that way. Even when Fitz knocks him on his ass.

Crabtree...not so much.

Back and to the left.  Back and to the left.   Back and to the left.

Rwa2play: doubled99: I bet he probably robbed a liquor store and did a driveby before the game.
Typical thug. he's from Compton, you know how it goes with them...

He also went to Stanford and is getting his masters there.  But please, do continue with the stereotypical hogwash you spew.

Is your sarcasm detector broken, or is that a troll?

The pass was tipped back and to the left.  Back and to the left.

/This story has less interesting material than the daily Cowboy threads

"What is THIS shiat? Who cares? Omaha, Omaha!"

//10 more farking days? Arrrrgh!!!

tricycleracer: Back and to the left.  Back and to the left.   Back and to the left.

Came here for this, leaving happy

Sherman's rant was somewhat classless.

Sherman himself seems to be a pretty down to earth guy.

Neither of these things make him a 'thug.'

Ow! That was my feelings!: [static1.businessinsider.com image 850x637]

"What is THIS shiat? Who cares? Omaha, Omaha!"

//10 more farking days? Arrrrgh!!!

I think they caught him yelling "Coors Light" on the SoundFX show last night. Funny stuff,

"Blue 42! Blue 42! WHY ASK WHY DRINK BUD DRY!! OMAHA!! HUT HUT!"

SpartacusHobbs: Rwa2play: doubled99: I bet he probably robbed a liquor store and did a driveby before the game.
Typical thug. he's from Compton, you know how it goes with them...

He also went to Stanford and is getting his masters there.  But please, do continue with the stereotypical hogwash you spew.

Is your sarcasm detector broken, or is that a troll?

Yeah, it was broken...but it's been fixed. :)

Ow! That was my feelings!: [static1.businessinsider.com image 850x637]

That there is a racist honkie who is unfairly taking attention away from Sherman.

*whispers* He's from the south  you know how southerners are

Top of the morning chaps. I say, does anyone here happen to recall where this young man matriculated? Is he of the Staffordshire Shermans? I'll be the first to admit I'm not up on my heraldry nomenclature but I seem to recall it debunked that his father was a minor earl of something or other.  I could be mistaken. I dare say it's possible he holds no titles or lands of note anywhere. Dear me, all this foofaraw over one of the low-born...

Shame Us: Ow! That was my feelings!: [static1.businessinsider.com image 850x637]

"What is THIS shiat? Who cares? Omaha, Omaha!"

//10 more farking days? Arrrrgh!!!

I think they caught him yelling "Coors Light" on the SoundFX show last night. Funny stuff,

"Blue 42! Blue 42! WHY ASK WHY DRINK BUD DRY!! OMAHA!! HUT HUT!"

mikaloyd: We will know that Sherman's interview style has jumped the shark once a political analyst chimes in with "This is an uncomfortable discussion that America has needed to have for a long time"

Now is not the time to talk about gun violence uppity black football players.

mikaloyd: Ow! That was my feelings!: [static1.businessinsider.com image 850x637]

That there is a racist honkie who is unfairly taking attention away from Sherman.

*whispers* He's from the south  you know how southerners are

LessO2: Keep posting, I love it when you prove me right.

You know....you could ignore these Seahawks/Sherman threads.

Have they blamed him for Justin Bieber's arrest?

square028: Have they blamed him for Justin Bieber's arrest?

That arrest is squarely on the shoulders of this twerking fad

Because lulz. Here's Manning on idiot kickers...Lulz

square028: Have they blamed him for Justin Bieber's arrest?

Interestingly enough, there are folks saying that the Bieb's has been led down a dark path because of his dark friends.

mikaloyd: square028: Have they blamed him for Justin Bieber's arrest?

That arrest is squarely on the shoulders of this twerking fad

So The Illuminati is just mailing in this one I see.
Hey what's the early over/under on numbers of "OMAHA!" said?

Ishkur: mikaloyd: We will know that Sherman's interview style has jumped the shark once a political analyst chimes in with "This is an uncomfortable discussion that America has needed to have for a long time"

Now is not the time to talk about gun violence uppity black football players.

Why not both? How about gun violence perpetrated by uppity black football players during the fourth quarter?

/the fourth quarter is the only one that counts...
/wait...I think I have my NBA uppity black basketball players confused with my NFL uppity black football players
/they all look alike except the NBA players wear sleeves to cover their filthy nasty raggedy ass don't you bring that stank up in here tats
/seriously, racism is alive and well in professional sports in America

ladodger34: square028: Have they blamed him for Justin Bieber's arrest?

Interestingly enough, there are folks saying that the Bieb's has been led down a dark path because of his dark friends.

If Biebs can't trust someone named Lil' Za, who can he trust? Who can any of us trust?

I was impressed by Sherman's follow-up. It seems he got worked up and made an ass of himself, and now feels a little foolish but stands by his expressions of confidence and his feeling that he had been disrespected by someone who is too lazy to play as well as he does. I don't know that there is a racial angle to it, but I guess people on both sides like to put one there.

But no one saw what D'glester Hardunkichud said at half time. It's all just water under the bridge with that guy.

TheShavingofOccam123: Ishkur: mikaloyd: We will know that Sherman's interview style has jumped the shark once a political analyst chimes in with "This is an uncomfortable discussion that America has needed to have for a long time"

Now is not the time to talk about gun violence uppity black football players.

Why not both? How about gun violence perpetrated by uppity black football players during the fourth quarter?

Billy Cole agrees.

Well, why DID they try him with a sorry receiver like Crabtree?

Phil Moskowitz: But no one saw what D'glester Hardunkichud said at half time. It's all just water under the bridge with that guy.

"I could talk about Fudge all day."

Black and of big heft. Black and of big heft...

Ow! That was my feelings!: Phil Moskowitz: But no one saw what D'glester Hardunkichud said at half time. It's all just water under the bridge with that guy.

[pixel.nymag.com image 190x190]

"I could talk about Fudge all day."

Although, Nyquillus is my favorite.

Bunny Deville: [farm8.staticflickr.com image 366x395 SHUT UP PIC]

But we are talking about Sherman

Doodloo doodlooo doodloo doo
Dooo doo doo dooo dooo doodooo doo

Sherman
Whos the black public dick
Thats a sex machine to reporter chix
Sherman!
Damn right!
Who is the man
Who would dis crabtree for Seahwkjs fans
(Sherman)
Can ya dig it?
Who's the cat that wont shut up
Bout why crabtree got up his but?
(Sherman)
right on
You see this cat Sherman is a bad thugger-m...
But Im talkin bout Sherman
(then you a racist)
He's a complicated man
That only his 12th man understands
(Dick Sherman)

Robert1966: I was impressed by Sherman's follow-up. It seems he got worked up and made an ass of himself, and now feels a little foolish but stands by his expressions of confidence and his feeling that he had been disrespected by someone who is too lazy to play as well as he does. I don't know that there is a racial angle to it, but I guess people on both sides like to put one there.

i said the other day dude was SURGING on adrenalin.  he was about 2-3 minutes (if that) removed from the final whistle, realizing he'd achieved a lifelong dream:  THE SUPER BOWL.  yeah he wsa jacked.  he looked silly and it was exceedingly poor sportsmanship, but, he was just pulsing with adrenalin.

and as i also said, NBC or whomever, fox, whatever, they knew wha tthey were getting.  they specifically chose sherman, knowing he'd go operation codename:  richard sherman.  he went operation codename:  richard sherman and then the network aborted the interview (per dan patrick today;  erin andrews said she wsa told to cut it short).

and once agian, i loved Daryl Wright's tweet:  "dear media:  how about you quit sending erin andrews to interview n___s on live tv?"

Super Chronic: Well, why DID they try him with a sorry receiver like Crabtree?

Yeah that's one thing lost in all of this was that the other time Crabtree was lined up with Sherman, it resulted in a defensive holding penalty. Crabtree picked up his 4/52 yards when it was someone else not named Sherman covering him. It's just remarkable that the only other time in the game the ball was thrown to Crabtree and Sherman was covering him, that happened and we are where we are.

Crabtree has pretty solid hands. Route running and shaking off defenders will get better over time, but when the best corner is covering you (someone who used to play the WR position and very safe to assume still knows the general tendencies of any WR) yeah the defender is going to win out most of the time.

Regardless of who you were rooting for (if you had an interest) it was a helluva game and probably will be in the top ten of best games of the season.

square028: Crabtree has pretty solid hands. Route running and shaking off defenders will get better over time, but when the best corner is covering you (someone who used to play the WR position and very safe to assume still knows the general tendencies of any WR) yeah the defender is going to win out most of the time.

One of his catches came with Maxwell draped all over him.  Kaep just managed to squeeze it by Maxwell somehow.  So, yeah, Davis was out, Boldin had been locked down, and it's supposed to be up to the "star" WR to win the game with an awesome catch.

I like Richard Sherman, there I said it.

/49er fan
//as much as I'm a fan of any PRO team
///AnchorDown

Arkanaut: Has anyone played the audio from the interview backwards to search for any Satanic messages?

I did. I didn't find any satanic messages, but there is a recipe for a delicious coffee cake.

whizbangthedirtfarmer: square028: Crabtree has pretty solid hands. Route running and shaking off defenders will get better over time, but when the best corner is covering you (someone who used to play the WR position and very safe to assume still knows the general tendencies of any WR) yeah the defender is going to win out most of the time.

One of his catches came with Maxwell draped all over him.  Kaep just managed to squeeze it by Maxwell somehow.  So, yeah, Davis was out, Boldin had been locked down, and it's supposed to be up to the "star" WR to win the game with an awesome catch.

I think in maybe a season or two Crabtree can become that star WR. And I say that as a Seahawk fan that isn't caught up in this "where the fark did this come from" venomous hate towards the 49ers (likely because YAY SPORTS!). That said, a buddy of mine who is a 49ers fan said in his words, "Crabtree needs to figure out how to run faster than my grandmother."

Arkanaut: Has anyone played the audio from the interview backwards to search for any Satanic messages?

"Mommy my chair is broken"

/obscure

Whatthefark: Arkanaut: Has anyone played the audio from the interview backwards to search for any Satanic messages?

I did. I didn't find any satanic messages, but there is a recipe for a delicious coffee cake.

Well since he went to Stanford, obviously he's gonna gather some of his VC cronies and either open up a bakery where every order is yelled at you because that's apparently what he does. Or he sells the recipe to Starbucks where they sell a 1" slice for $5.95. For those of you that don't know Key and Peele, I give you... Collegiate Bowl I Collegiate Bowl II You're welcome. mikaloyd: Bunny Deville: [farm8.staticflickr.com image 366x395 SHUT UP PIC] But we are talking about Sherman Doodloo doodlooo doodloo doo Dooo doo doo dooo dooo doodooo doo Sherman Whos the black public dick Thats a sex machine to reporter chix Sherman! Damn right! Who is the man Who would dis crabtree for Seahwkjs fans (Sherman) Can ya dig it? Who's the cat that wont shut up Bout why crabtree got up his but? (Sherman) right on You see this cat Sherman is a bad thugger-m... (SHUT YOUR MOUTH) But Im talkin bout Sherman (then you a racist) He's a complicated man That only his 12th man understands (Dick Sherman) nicely done square028: I think in maybe a season or two Crabtree can become that star WR. In his 7th season he'll figure it out? square028: whizbangthedirtfarmer: square028: Crabtree has pretty solid hands. Route running and shaking off defenders will get better over time, but when the best corner is covering you (someone who used to play the WR position and very safe to assume still knows the general tendencies of any WR) yeah the defender is going to win out most of the time. One of his catches came with Maxwell draped all over him. Kaep just managed to squeeze it by Maxwell somehow. So, yeah, Davis was out, Boldin had been locked down, and it's supposed to be up to the "star" WR to win the game with an awesome catch. I think in maybe a season or two Crabtree can become that star WR. And I say that as a Seahawk fan that isn't caught up in this "where the fark did this come from" venomous hate towards the 49ers (likely because YAY SPORTS!). That said, a buddy of mine who is a 49ers fan said in his words, "Crabtree needs to figure out how to run faster than my grandmother." With a full offseason of rehab, he should come back faster. The expectations of how a guy coming off of an Achilles tear would open up the offense were way too high. Also, let's be clear, he had one 1100 yd season. It's not like Megatron was out for 2/3 of the year here. I'd argue that he was probably the 3rd or 4th most important offensive weapon for them, anyway. I'm not trying to be racist here, but I really like Richard Sherman's enthusiasm and intensity. Not trying to offend anyone, that's just how I feel. I also wish we had taken him instead of Davon House. Shame Us: square028: whizbangthedirtfarmer: square028: Crabtree has pretty solid hands. Route running and shaking off defenders will get better over time, but when the best corner is covering you (someone who used to play the WR position and very safe to assume still knows the general tendencies of any WR) yeah the defender is going to win out most of the time. One of his catches came with Maxwell draped all over him. Kaep just managed to squeeze it by Maxwell somehow. So, yeah, Davis was out, Boldin had been locked down, and it's supposed to be up to the "star" WR to win the game with an awesome catch. I think in maybe a season or two Crabtree can become that star WR. And I say that as a Seahawk fan that isn't caught up in this "where the fark did this come from" venomous hate towards the 49ers (likely because YAY SPORTS!). That said, a buddy of mine who is a 49ers fan said in his words, "Crabtree needs to figure out how to run faster than my grandmother." With a full offseason of rehab, he should come back faster. The expectations of how a guy coming off of an Achilles tear would open up the offense were way too high. Also, let's be clear, he had one 1100 yd season. It's not like Megatron was out for 2/3 of the year here. I'd argue that he was probably the 3rd or 4th most important offensive weapon for them, anyway. I agree completely. Hell, I'd say that Crabtree is below Kaepernick, Gore, Davis and Boldin as far as "skill" players on the Niners offense are concerned. So 5th best/most important player. That guy coming back is not going to drastically change your offense. And this is why there should be only one week between the NFC/AFC championship games and the Super Bowl. Shame Us: The expectations of how a guy coming off of an Achilles tear would open up the offense were way too high The amount his impact was overstated was ridiculous, as well. 49ers offense without Crabtree: 24.91 points/game 49ers offense with Crabtree: 24.38 points/game WHOA WHAT A HUGE WEAPON! browneye: And this is why there should be only one week between the NFC/AFC championship games and the Super Bowl. But...but....PRO BOWL! And to be fair, the Royal Rumble is this Sunday. Safe pick: CM Punk Dark horse pick: Dean Ambrose Won't happen but why the fark not: Someone from 3MB Shame Us: square028: whizbangthedirtfarmer: square028: Crabtree has pretty solid hands. Route running and shaking off defenders will get better over time, but when the best corner is covering you (someone who used to play the WR position and very safe to assume still knows the general tendencies of any WR) yeah the defender is going to win out most of the time. One of his catches came with Maxwell draped all over him. Kaep just managed to squeeze it by Maxwell somehow. So, yeah, Davis was out, Boldin had been locked down, and it's supposed to be up to the "star" WR to win the game with an awesome catch. I think in maybe a season or two Crabtree can become that star WR. And I say that as a Seahawk fan that isn't caught up in this "where the fark did this come from" venomous hate towards the 49ers (likely because YAY SPORTS!). That said, a buddy of mine who is a 49ers fan said in his words, "Crabtree needs to figure out how to run faster than my grandmother." With a full offseason of rehab, he should come back faster. The expectations of how a guy coming off of an Achilles tear would open up the offense were way too high. Also, let's be clear, he had one 1100 yd season. It's not like Megatron was out for 2/3 of the year here. I'd argue that he was probably the 3rd or 4th most important offensive weapon for them, anyway. I've noticed, and this may be just because of his injury history, that he will avoid a catch to save the big hit. He dropped a fairly routine pass in the SEA game because he saw Chancellor bearing down on him. \to be fair, I don't blame him \\wonder if SF did concussion protocol on Davis? He looked woozy The only way this could have been better is if he would have ripped Andrew's shirt off and screamed "Omaha Omaha" as he grabbed her boobies. whizbangthedirtfarmer: \\wonder if SF did concussion protocol on Davis? He looked woozy Surprised no one has taken that hit and given it the Jim Ross treatment. Yet. whizbangthedirtfarmer: Shame Us: square028: whizbangthedirtfarmer: square028: Crabtree has pretty solid hands. Route running and shaking off defenders will get better over time, but when the best corner is covering you (someone who used to play the WR position and very safe to assume still knows the general tendencies of any WR) yeah the defender is going to win out most of the time. One of his catches came with Maxwell draped all over him. Kaep just managed to squeeze it by Maxwell somehow. So, yeah, Davis was out, Boldin had been locked down, and it's supposed to be up to the "star" WR to win the game with an awesome catch. I think in maybe a season or two Crabtree can become that star WR. And I say that as a Seahawk fan that isn't caught up in this "where the fark did this come from" venomous hate towards the 49ers (likely because YAY SPORTS!). That said, a buddy of mine who is a 49ers fan said in his words, "Crabtree needs to figure out how to run faster than my grandmother." With a full offseason of rehab, he should come back faster. The expectations of how a guy coming off of an Achilles tear would open up the offense were way too high. Also, let's be clear, he had one 1100 yd season. It's not like Megatron was out for 2/3 of the year here. I'd argue that he was probably the 3rd or 4th most important offensive weapon for them, anyway. I've noticed, and this may be just because of his injury history, that he will avoid a catch to save the big hit. He dropped a fairly routine pass in the SEA game because he saw Chancellor bearing down on him. \to be fair, I don't blame him \\wonder if SF did concussion protocol on Davis? He looked woozy They had an article up a few weeks ago about the Chancellor Effect on receivers and tight ends. I think it was on ESPN. They had 5 separate instances of players altering their play or flat-out dropping to the ground.going OOB to avoid Chancellor. The hilarious one was Kellen Clemons actually trying to wave Kam off and sliding when he was running with the ball. Am I racist if I just think he is an asshole of epic proportions? sammyk: Am I racist if I just think he is an asshole of epic proportions? Not at all. Shame Us: Hell, I'd say that Crabtree is below Kaepernick, Gore, Davis and Boldin as far as "skill" players on the Niners offense are concerned. So 5th best/most important player. That guy coming back is not going to drastically change your offense. In terms of importance, maybe, but he's still a far better WR than Kaepernick is a QB. If Kaepernick wasn't a mediocre - MEDIOCRE!!!! - QB San Fran wins that game. sammyk: Am I racist if I just think he is an asshole of epic proportions? Nope, just ignorant. sammyk: Am I racist if I just think he is an asshole of epic proportions? Nah, you're just kinda bitter and sorry. browneye: And this is why there should be only one week between the NFC/AFC championship games and the Super Bowl. Noooooooo! How else do you expect Harvin to get healthy?! /I keed. //Amusing as hell if he takes SB MVP. sammyk: Am I racist if I just think he is an asshole of epic proportions? I get feeling like he's an asshole, I just don't get the severity of people's feelings about the guy. It's insane. He talks trash - so did Jordan, so did Payton, so does Brady, so does Boldin, etc. The_Sponge: browneye: And this is why there should be only one week between the NFC/AFC championship games and the Super Bowl. Noooooooo! How else do you expect Harvin to get healthy?! /I keed. //Amusing as hell if he takes SB MVP. He's probably still running around the VMAC saying he's Batman. square028: He's probably still running around the VMAC saying he's Batman. Lulz. AdmirableSnackbar: Shame Us: Hell, I'd say that Crabtree is below Kaepernick, Gore, Davis and Boldin as far as "skill" players on the Niners offense are concerned. So 5th best/most important player. That guy coming back is not going to drastically change your offense. In terms of importance, maybe, but he's still a far better WR than Kaepernick is a QB. If Kaepernick wasn't a mediocre - MEDIOCRE!!!! - QB San Fran wins that game. Yeah - if the players on a team are better, they play better. Side note: I give Kap props for telling Wilson to go out and win a ring. square028: The_Sponge: browneye: And this is why there should be only one week between the NFC/AFC championship games and the Super Bowl. Noooooooo! How else do you expect Harvin to get healthy?! /I keed. //Amusing as hell if he takes SB MVP. He's probably still running around the VMAC saying he's Batman. He is running around the VMAC. It's just that he's practicing fully. sammyk: Am I racist if I just think he is an asshole of epic proportions? The worse your opinion of Sherman's interview style, the more racist you are. Now if you only thought he was a micro asshole youd only be a tiny bit racist. As it is though, on the sliding racism scale, you are a little worse than Paula Deen or Jesse Jackson but not nearly as bad as Hitler. IAmRight: WHOA WHAT A HUGE WEAPON! I think it's been previously established that Crabtree is no Megatron. On the other hand you are on record as saying it will be "tough" for the broncos to defend against a guy who has one catch this season. And that same guy's best season receiving the ball looks like a damn xerox copy of Crabtree's best season receiving. Not that Harvin won't catch a ball. Just that I doubt they are spending a ton of time game-planning for him. On a historical note I find myself wondering if there's ever been a guy whose second catch of the year came in the super bowl. Maybe so but I am not going to be the one looking that up! IAmRight: Shame Us: The expectations of how a guy coming off of an Achilles tear would open up the offense were way too high The amount his impact was overstated was ridiculous, as well. 49ers offense without Crabtree: 24.91 points/game 49ers offense with Crabtree: 24.38 points/game WHOA WHAT A HUGE WEAPON! And yet, better than any receiver on the Seahawks. /Sherman probably recognizes mediocre receivers from seeing them in practice all day //except Harvin, that guy is elite in the trainers room Shame Us: AdmirableSnackbar: Shame Us: Hell, I'd say that Crabtree is below Kaepernick, Gore, Davis and Boldin as far as "skill" players on the Niners offense are concerned. So 5th best/most important player. That guy coming back is not going to drastically change your offense. In terms of importance, maybe, but he's still a far better WR than Kaepernick is a QB. If Kaepernick wasn't a mediocre - MEDIOCRE!!!! - QB San Fran wins that game. Yeah - if the players on a team are better, they play better. But that's why I think Sherman is an ass for what he said. It takes all 11 players playing at a high level for any individual player to be great. Calling out one guy whose success is extremely dependent upon another player is ignorant, especially when that other player (in this case, Kaepernick) was downright dreadful in that game. Heck, on the game-clinching play Crabtree had beaten Sherman. Sherman was only able to make the play he did because Kaepernick underthrew the ball. For some reason, people seem to think that Crabtree could control that and that Crabtree lost the matchup when that couldn't be further from the truth. JohnBigBootay: On the other hand you are on record as saying it will be "tough" for the broncos to defend against a guy who has one catch this season. A) he has four now - he made three against the Saints before they cheap-shotted his way out of that game B) it's tough to defend something you haven't seen much of on film C) he makes much more of an impact on other receivers' ability to get open than Crabtree does, due to his speed and how he's used JohnBigBootay: IAmRight: WHOA WHAT A HUGE WEAPON! I think it's been previously established that Crabtree is no Megatron. On the other hand you are on record as saying it will be "tough" for the broncos to defend against a guy who has one catch this season. And that same guy's best season receiving the ball looks like a damn xerox copy of Crabtree's best season receiving. Not that Harvin won't catch a ball. Just that I doubt they are spending a ton of time game-planning for him. On a historical note I find myself wondering if there's ever been a guy whose second catch of the year came in the super bowl. Maybe so but I am not going to be the one looking that up! Harvin had 3 catches and a rush in the Saints game. Semper IvXx: And yet, better than any receiver on the Seahawks. Not really. AdmirableSnackbar: Crabtree had beaten Sherman Wherein by beaten you mean "shoved Sherman in the back to illegally create separation" Richard Sherman is such a thug, Justin Bieber wants to hang out with him. AdmirableSnackbar: Shame Us: AdmirableSnackbar: Shame Us: Hell, I'd say that Crabtree is below Kaepernick, Gore, Davis and Boldin as far as "skill" players on the Niners offense are concerned. So 5th best/most important player. That guy coming back is not going to drastically change your offense. In terms of importance, maybe, but he's still a far better WR than Kaepernick is a QB. If Kaepernick wasn't a mediocre - MEDIOCRE!!!! - QB San Fran wins that game. Yeah - if the players on a team are better, they play better. But that's why I think Sherman is an ass for what he said. It takes all 11 players playing at a high level for any individual player to be great. Calling out one guy whose success is extremely dependent upon another player is ignorant, especially when that other player (in this case, Kaepernick) was downright dreadful in that game. Heck, on the game-clinching play Crabtree had beaten Sherman. Sherman was only able to make the play he did because Kaepernick underthrew the ball. For some reason, people seem to think that Crabtree could control that and that Crabtree lost the matchup when that couldn't be further from the truth. Crabtree was covered on the play. Sherman was right in front of him coontil the little shove from Crabtree) and is 2 inches taller than him with longer arms. A fade route in the corner of the endzone (which would have been where Kaep wanted to throw it) over a taller DB standing infront of the receiver is not an open play. It is at best a jumpball where your WR has the disadvantage. The pass never should have been thrown and a fade vs. Sherman never should have been called. Also, Sherman did acknowledge that he was sorry that he took away from his teammates' accolades and that he owes his success to them (specifically the D-Line and Earl Thomas). On a side note, if Kennedy had been shot in the 24-hour cable news era, you bet your ass that the Zapruder film would have been analyzed nonstop. mikaloyd: The worse your opinion of Sherman's interview style Someone should put a muzzle on that asshole. Can't believe they let him speak in public. IAmRight: JohnBigBootay: On the other hand you are on record as saying it will be "tough" for the broncos to defend against a guy who has one catch this season. A) he has four now - he made three against the Saints before they cheap-shotted his way out of that game B) it's tough to defend something you haven't seen much of on film C) he makes much more of an impact on other receivers' ability to get open than Crabtree does, due to his speed and how he's used Don't expect Harvin to come out guns blazing. He's bound to be a little rusty considering he's been out all season and now is coming off a concussion. The best use of Harvin will be as a distraction because D coordinators are afraid of what he might do. Wouldn't surprise me if he jacks up a route or something and lets one get picked if they try to do too much with him too soon. Shame Us: sammyk: Am I racist if I just think he is an asshole of epic proportions? I get feeling like he's an asshole, I just don't get the severity of people's feelings about the guy. It's insane. He talks trash - so did Jordan, so did Payton, so does Brady, so does Boldin, etc. When there are 22 players on the field, no one would be surprised that all 22 were talking trash to each other and that even a few of them are assholes. Sherman got up in front of the camera on national TV after winning the NFC Championship game and took trash talk to a whole different level. Whether people like it or not (most don't), you can probably only compare what Sherman did with... a couple of other things? I can't think of many right now - I'm sure Bobby Knight did some really bad pointed rants, maybe Ryan Leaf screaming at the reporter, or Allen Iverson's "we talkin' 'bout...practice" rant. And even then, those weren't done as directly or on as big a stage as this. The scale is enormous. It would seem the only thing bigger would be if someone did it at the Super Bowl or World Series / NBA Finals?. "Mr Gorbachev, tear down that wall!"? IAmRight: AdmirableSnackbar: Crabtree had beaten Sherman Wherein by beaten you mean "shoved Sherman in the back to illegally create separation" That might not be as funny if you didn't ignore the fact that the Seattle secondary have their hands all over the receivers all the time. JohnBigBootay: On a historical note I find myself wondering if there's ever been a guy whose second catch of the year came in the super bowl. Maybe so but I am not going to be the one looking that up! He's got like 3 or 4 catches on the year. But, point taken. IAmRight: Semper IvXx: And yet, better than any receiver on the Seahawks. Not really. AdmirableSnackbar: Crabtree had beaten Sherman Wherein by beaten you mean "shoved Sherman in the back to illegally create separation" Oh OK then. I forgot how good Doug Baldwin is I guess. Him and that other guy they have. Old what's his name. Big talent on that guy, I think he's only been cut four times. /if you think any receiver on the Seahawks is as good as Crabtree when healthy you might be a delusional fan and not as informed as you pretend to be spiderpaz: Don't expect Harvin to come out guns blazing. He's bound to be a little rusty considering he's been out all season and now is coming off a concussion. The best use of Harvin will be as a distraction because D coordinators are afraid of what he might do. Wouldn't surprise me if he jacks up a route or something and lets one get picked if they try to do too much with him too soon. a) he's had all season to study b) he's spent several years in Bevell's offensive system c) I do agree that his biggest value is as a decoy, but I doubt he's going to screw things up. Didn't happen in either of the other two "first times." /basically, all this talk about how ineffective the Seahawks' offense is is asinine. They're by far the best "weakest unit" of the two teams and that was without Harvin, who only makes them better in the few plays he's played The_Sponge: Side note: I give Kap props for telling Wilson to go out and win a ring. I don't think he is as bad as people make him out to be. He just isn't media savvy or the best at speaking in public. Nana's Vibrator: Shame Us: sammyk: Am I racist if I just think he is an asshole of epic proportions? I get feeling like he's an asshole, I just don't get the severity of people's feelings about the guy. It's insane. He talks trash - so did Jordan, so did Payton, so does Brady, so does Boldin, etc. When there are 22 players on the field, no one would be surprised that all 22 were talking trash to each other and that even a few of them are assholes. Sherman got up in front of the camera on national TV after winning the NFC Championship game and took trash talk to a whole different level. Whether people like it or not (most don't), you can probably only compare what Sherman did with... a couple of other things? I can't think of many right now - I'm sure Bobby Knight did some really bad pointed rants, maybe Ryan Leaf screaming at the reporter, or Allen Iverson's "we talkin' 'bout...practice" rant. And even then, those weren't done as directly or on as big a stage as this. The scale is enormous. It would seem the only thing bigger would be if someone did it at the Super Bowl or World Series / NBA Finals?. "Mr Gorbachev, tear down that wall!"? Maybe at their HOF speech? Seriously, he was talking into a camera about one guy. Yes it was nationally televised, but there is no way you can say it's worse than what we know players say on the field. We have clear video of players in various sports calling people f*ggots and impugning their lineagewives/sisters etc. spiderpaz: IAmRight: AdmirableSnackbar: Crabtree had beaten Sherman Wherein by beaten you mean "shoved Sherman in the back to illegally create separation" That might not be as funny if you didn't ignore the fact that the Seattle secondary have their hands all over the receivers all the time. Just like every other decent secondary in the league. Yes, even san fran's. AdmirableSnackbar: Sherman was only able to make the play he did because Kaepernick underthrew the ball Ok, whatever you say. stappawho: mikaloyd: The worse your opinion of Sherman's interview style Someone should put a muzzle on that asshole. Can't believe they let him speak in public. He should teach interview styilngs, at Harvard or Stanford. Nana's Vibrator: When there are 22 players on the field, no one would be surprised that all 22 were talking trash to each other and that even a few of them are assholes. Sherman got up in front of the camera on national TV after winning the NFC Championship game and took trash talk to a whole different level. That's the concise description of what happened. The rest is just fans for and against Seattle trying to spin it their own way. Still, if your reaction was more than "what an asshole" followed by "I hope the Broncos stomp that jackass", you're making a little too much of it. Football players are egotistical jerks in general. The only difference between the rest of them and Sherman is that they know not to get in a reporters face and scream at her to the point that she is visibly afraid. /maybe needs to adjust his adderall Shame Us: Nana's Vibrator: Shame Us: sammyk: Am I racist if I just think he is an asshole of epic proportions? I get feeling like he's an asshole, I just don't get the severity of people's feelings about the guy. It's insane. He talks trash - so did Jordan, so did Payton, so does Brady, so does Boldin, etc. When there are 22 players on the field, no one would be surprised that all 22 were talking trash to each other and that even a few of them are assholes. Sherman got up in front of the camera on national TV after winning the NFC Championship game and took trash talk to a whole different level. Whether people like it or not (most don't), you can probably only compare what Sherman did with... a couple of other things? I can't think of many right now - I'm sure Bobby Knight did some really bad pointed rants, maybe Ryan Leaf screaming at the reporter, or Allen Iverson's "we talkin' 'bout...practice" rant. And even then, those weren't done as directly or on as big a stage as this. The scale is enormous. It would seem the only thing bigger would be if someone did it at the Super Bowl or World Series / NBA Finals?. "Mr Gorbachev, tear down that wall!"? Maybe at their HOF speech? Seriously, he was talking into a camera about one guy. Yes it was nationally televised, but there is no way you can say it's worse than what we know players say on the field. We have clear video of players in various sports calling people f*ggots and impugning their lineagewives/sisters etc. Hey, how did I forget? "George Bush doesn't care about black people" Now that was trash talk! stappawho: The_Sponge: Side note: I give Kap props for telling Wilson to go out and win a ring. I don't think he is as bad as people make him out to be. He just isn't media savvy or the best at speaking in public. Crap....I can't help myself: Or the best at dressing up for post game press conferences. spiderpaz: That might not be as funny if you didn't ignore the fact that the Seattle secondary have their hands all over the receivers all the time. Same as every secondary in the league. Just like getting upset about pick plays is silly because everyone in the league runs 'em. Sorry your weak receivers can't get open, while our "mediocre" receivers beat your sorry corners. Semper IvXx: Oh OK then. I forgot how good Doug Baldwin is I guess. Him and that other guy they have. Old what's his name. Big talent on that guy, I think he's only been cut four times. /if you think any receiver on the Seahawks is as good as Crabtree when healthy you might be a delusional fan and not as informed as you pretend to be Being ignorant doesn't make you right. And just because Crabtree can go off against Green Bay's awful defense (the only one in the league that can't figure out what to do with Kaepernick AT ALL), doesn't mean he can do anything against anyone good. IAmRight: spiderpaz: Don't expect Harvin to come out guns blazing. He's bound to be a little rusty considering he's been out all season and now is coming off a concussion. The best use of Harvin will be as a distraction because D coordinators are afraid of what he might do. Wouldn't surprise me if he jacks up a route or something and lets one get picked if they try to do too much with him too soon. a) he's had all season to study b) he's spent several years in Bevell's offensive system c) I do agree that his biggest value is as a decoy, but I doubt he's going to screw things up. Didn't happen in either of the other two "first times." /basically, all this talk about how ineffective the Seahawks' offense is is asinine. They're by far the best "weakest unit" of the two teams and that was without Harvin, who only makes them better in the few plays he's played Obviously they're better with him than without him - that would be true of anyone though IAmRight: square028: I think in maybe a season or two Crabtree can become that star WR. In his 7th season he'll figure it out? He's the Tim Tebow of receivers? Shame Us: spiderpaz: IAmRight: AdmirableSnackbar: Crabtree had beaten Sherman Wherein by beaten you mean "shoved Sherman in the back to illegally create separation" That might not be as funny if you didn't ignore the fact that the Seattle secondary have their hands all over the receivers all the time. Just like every other decent secondary in the league. Yes, even san fran's. Yes, but why act like Crabtree putting hands back is any worse? Semper IvXx: Oh OK then. I forgot how good Doug Baldwin is I guess. Him and that other guy they have. Old what's his name. Big talent on that guy, I think he's only been cut four times. Are you talking about Tate? Rice? Harvin? I think Lockette might be the only guy who's been cut repeatedly. Wait. Walters? Does he even play? Shame Us: AdmirableSnackbar: Shame Us: AdmirableSnackbar: Shame Us: Hell, I'd say that Crabtree is below Kaepernick, Gore, Davis and Boldin as far as "skill" players on the Niners offense are concerned. So 5th best/most important player. That guy coming back is not going to drastically change your offense. In terms of importance, maybe, but he's still a far better WR than Kaepernick is a QB. If Kaepernick wasn't a mediocre - MEDIOCRE!!!! - QB San Fran wins that game. Yeah - if the players on a team are better, they play better. But that's why I think Sherman is an ass for what he said. It takes all 11 players playing at a high level for any individual player to be great. Calling out one guy whose success is extremely dependent upon another player is ignorant, especially when that other player (in this case, Kaepernick) was downright dreadful in that game. Heck, on the game-clinching play Crabtree had beaten Sherman. Sherman was only able to make the play he did because Kaepernick underthrew the ball. For some reason, people seem to think that Crabtree could control that and that Crabtree lost the matchup when that couldn't be further from the truth. Crabtree was covered on the play. Sherman was right in front of him coontil the little shove from Crabtree) and is 2 inches taller than him with longer arms. A fade route in the corner of the endzone (which would have been where Kaep wanted to throw it) over a taller DB standing infront of the receiver is not an open play. It is at best a jumpball where your WR has the disadvantage. The pass never should have been thrown and a fade vs. Sherman never should have been called. Also, Sherman did acknowledge that he was sorry that he took away from his teammates' accolades and that he owes his success to them (specifically the D-Line and Earl Thomas). It wouldn't have been a jump ball if it had been thrown properly. The way it was thrown it was a jump ball at the front of the end zone. It was only because the ball was underthrown that Sherman was able to extend and deflect the pass. If it was deeper it's beyond his reach and Crabtree has a chance to make a back-corner catch while shielding Sherman off with his back. Kaep was consistently underthrowing his passes all game, severely so on the two picks. spiderpaz: Shame Us: spiderpaz: IAmRight: AdmirableSnackbar: Crabtree had beaten Sherman Wherein by beaten you mean "shoved Sherman in the back to illegally create separation" That might not be as funny if you didn't ignore the fact that the Seattle secondary have their hands all over the receivers all the time. Just like every other decent secondary in the league. Yes, even san fran's. Yes, but why act like Crabtree putting hands back is any worse? I didn't act like that. I mean it was wrong for Sherman to say that shiat but not so wrong. Just a little wrong. It seems like it is getting blown way out of proportion. Sherman is a notorious trash talker. I have never liked him or the team or the fans. The white ones, black ones, whatever ones. He is also young and probably somewhat immature, thrust into a spotlight. He made a mistake. He has admitted it. His coach had admitted it. Tracy Porter didn't do that after either of his huge plays. Many people of all colors haven't after their moments of triumph. Michael Jordan comes to mind. This guy did. It's ok. Even though I don't like the kid, I think the whole thing is too much. People just hate trash talkers. And they will hate them for whatever reason they can think of. If they are black, they will hate them for that. If they are a woman, they will also. If they are Southern, they will hate them for that. But those are after the fact. What they really hate is arrogance. It is great to think of yourself highly, but when you constantly do so by saying how much others' are so lesser than you, it shows not only an underlying insecurity, but also a very real disregard for the people who you play the game against, who are the main ingredient to your greatness, who are out there putting their bodies on the line and possibly facing CTE or ALS in their futures. Sherman owes Crabtree a lot actually. Without him, he has no foe. Without any of the other 31 teams in the NFL, Sherman has no job and much less livelihood. So I suppose there is a certain expectation that a reasonable amount of respect should be given. Mike Tyson has often spoke of his respect and love for them men he faced in the ring, even after threatening to eat their children and biting their ears off! Athletes owe a lot to each other as foes, to create the competition. Sherman should respect that. Again, Sherman is a kid. He has been through a lot. He has probably never expected to be where he is. He certainly could have handled it better. It's easy for me to forgive him. It certainly has created enough drama to possibly be a distraction as the team heads to the Super Bowl. Racist farkers on the internet shouldn't be dictating a national conversation on this. I don't know if it is good that they are (because it singles them out and exposes them) or bad (because it clouds the very important issue of race by creating a drama around something that has more to do with sportsmanship and maturity than race). IAmRight: spiderpaz: That might not be as funny if you didn't ignore the fact that the Seattle secondary have their hands all over the receivers all the time. Same as every secondary in the league. Just like getting upset about pick plays is silly because everyone in the league runs 'em. Sorry your weak receivers can't get open, while our "mediocre" receivers beat your sorry corners. Our corners are sorry. That's really why we lost. Your offense was weak. They let a hail mary bomb to Baldwin get completed on 4th and 7. I'll have to agree with that point. What's worse is that Carlos Rodgers got burned all season on the long passes and he's the highest paid player on the team. Eric Reid being the free safety shares in the blame, but he's a 1st year rookie, so he gets a break. If Rodgers is still on the team next year Balke needs to be fired. spiderpaz: Obviously they're better with him than without him - that would be true of anyone though My main point is that the Seahawks are 7th in the league in offensive DVOA with a constantly shuffling offensive line, missing Harvin and Rice for most of the season, etc. Now the line is healthy (if not consistently good), Harvin will be back, and he does make them better. Calling them incapable would be beyond foolish, and acting as though they can't do it against a Denver defense that's significantly worse than anyone they've played over the last month and a half is just hilarious. Shame Us: Walters? Does he even play? I've seen him out there a couple of times, though they don't throw his way. /would like to point out that we have WRs from Notre Dame, Stanford, and Cornell spiderpaz: Yes, but why act like Crabtree putting hands back is any worse? I didn't say it was worse - just laughing at the notion that Sherman was actually out of position. AdmirableSnackbar: It wouldn't have been a jump ball if it had been thrown properly. The way it was thrown it was a jump ball at the front of the end zone. It was only because the ball was underthrown that Sherman was able to extend and deflect the pass. If it was deeper it's beyond his reach and Crabtree has a chance to make a back-corner catch while shielding Sherman off with his back. Kaep was consistently underthrowing his passes all game, severely so on the two picks. Yu're assuming that had Kaep thrown the pass deeper into the endzone, Sherman would have played it exactly the same way? Crabtree would have too? If the ball is throw 5 yards deeper, the two guys aren't going to be playing for it the same way. Sherman wouldn't have leapt for the ball 5 yards short and Crabtree would have kept running toward the back of the endzone. The fact is that Sherman doesn't give up the fade. They've tried a handful of times this season and the best outcome has been an incomplete pass. He has now tipped passes to his teammates twice on fades. stappawho: He's got like 3 or 4 catches on the year. But, point taken. Huh. I honestly did not know that. Now I am not as interested. I don't think anyone will do research on whether or not someone's fifth catch of the year came in the super bowl. Just doesn't have the same ring to it that second would... Who is going to be the 1st Seahawk fan to rage quit Fark because of all the negative Seahawk/Sherman greens? JohnBigBootay: stappawho: He's got like 3 or 4 catches on the year. But, point taken. Huh. I honestly did not know that. Now I am not as interested. I don't think anyone will do research on whether or not someone's fifth catch of the year came in the super bowl. Just doesn't have the same ring to it that second would... Y'know - David Tyree didn't have much impact before that Super Bowl. That may have only been his 5th or 6th catch, spiderpaz: get in a reporters face and scream at her to the point that she is visibly afraid. Ok, whatever you say. JohnBigBootay: Huh. I honestly did not know that. Now I am not as interested. I don't think anyone will do research on whether or not someone's fifth catch of the year came in the super bowl. Just doesn't have the same ring to it that second would... Darn, I had an idea, but Tyree's first Super Bowl catch was his sixth (four regular season, one postseason). spiderpaz: Nana's Vibrator: When there are 22 players on the field, no one would be surprised that all 22 were talking trash to each other and that even a few of them are assholes. Sherman got up in front of the camera on national TV after winning the NFC Championship game and took trash talk to a whole different level. That's the concise description of what happened. The rest is just fans for and against Seattle trying to spin it their own way. Still, if your reaction was more than "what an asshole" followed by "I hope the Broncos stomp that jackass", you're making a little too much of it. Football players are egotistical jerks in general. The only difference between the rest of them and Sherman is that they know not to get in a reporters face and scream at her to the point that she is visibly afraid. /maybe needs to adjust his adderall What reporter was afraid of him? It wasn't the one that said he didn't scare her at all. Maybe his outburst scared you while you were watching it on TV because you are a little wimp, but it didn't scare the reporter that interviewed him. qorkfiend: On a side note, if Kennedy had been shot in the 24-hour cable news era, you bet your ass that the Zapruder film would have been analyzed nonstop. And everyone would have captured it on smart phone rendering the Zapruder film an accessory to a better angle. As for this Sherman media coverage... Shame Us: Crabtree was covered on the play. Sherman was right in front of him coontil the little shove from Crabtree) and is 2 inches taller than him with longer arms. A fade route in the corner of the endzone (which would have been where Kaep wanted to throw it) over a taller DB standing infront of the receiver is not an open play. It is at best a jumpball where your WR has the disadvantage. The pass never should have been thrown and a fade vs. Sherman never should have been called. It was one of those plays where, maybe, 5 quarterbacks could have dumped it right in the corner and potentially made it past Sherman, but Kaep is just not one of those guys. And, yes, Sherman is not your average 5'10" corner, so it was a very risky decision. Shame Us: Seriously, he was talking into a camera about one guy. Yes it was nationally televised, but there is no way you can say it's worse than what we know players say on the field. We have clear video of players in various sports calling people f*ggots and impugning their lineagewives/sisters etc. The odd thing is that most all the other trash talkers spew their crap during a game at the person to whom they are trash talking. They almost never mistake an aprez-game interview camera for the intended target of their trash talking. That is the puzzling aspect of this whole misunderstanding. Could the camera have resembled Crabtree somehow? stappawho: sammyk: Am I racist if I just think he is an asshole of epic proportions? Nope, just ignorant. Haven't you guys heard? Richard Sherman is a shoe-in for the Nobel Peace prize, the Presidential Medal of Freedom, and he's due to be cannonized by the RC Church shortly after those ceremonies are done. All hail Sherman!! All hail Sherman!! stappawho: spiderpaz: get in a reporters face and scream at her to the point that she is visibly afraid. Ok, whatever you say. I certainly have been a proponent that his antics were "thuggish" in that interview...but she was not afraid...she was taken back by how emotional and angry he seemed to be...but she wasn't 'afraid', let along 'visibly afraid'. I'm waiting for Sherman to don a Predator mask with those dreads. I'm over it now: All hail Sherman!! All hail Sherman!! epyonyx: I'm waiting for Sherman to don a Predator mask with those dreads. ... That would be kinda awesome. PluckYew: Who is going to be the 1st Seahawk fan to rage quit Fark because of all the negative Seahawk/Sherman greens? It's not the Seahawks fans that are raging. epyonyx: I'm waiting for Sherman to don a Predator mask with those dreads. Heheheh, now don't give him any ideas. XD Shame Us: AdmirableSnackbar: It wouldn't have been a jump ball if it had been thrown properly. The way it was thrown it was a jump ball at the front of the end zone. It was only because the ball was underthrown that Sherman was able to extend and deflect the pass. If it was deeper it's beyond his reach and Crabtree has a chance to make a back-corner catch while shielding Sherman off with his back. Kaep was consistently underthrowing his passes all game, severely so on the two picks. Yu're assuming that had Kaep thrown the pass deeper into the endzone, Sherman would have played it exactly the same way? Crabtree would have too? If the ball is throw 5 yards deeper, the two guys aren't going to be playing for it the same way. Sherman wouldn't have leapt for the ball 5 yards short and Crabtree would have kept running toward the back of the endzone. The fact is that Sherman doesn't give up the fade. They've tried a handful of times this season and the best outcome has been an incomplete pass. He has now tipped passes to his teammates twice on fades. That play was entirely Kaep's fault. Unless it's fourth down, it makes no sense trying to squeeze that pass in against a tall corner like Sherman. He could have thrown it away, looked for another option, or just scrambled for 2 or 3 yards. If he'd thrown it deeper, at least it may not have been at risk of being intercepted. Good QB's thrown it where nobody but the receiver can catch it, even if it makes it harder to get to. It's not his fault they lost though. With someone that couldn't run like him, they would have never been able to get the opportunities they got. His legs are what made it so possible to move the ball against Seattle. It was a battle down to the wire because he brought an X factor that leveled the scale. Manning's going to face some tighter coverage because they don't have to worry one iota about him scrambling. IAmRight: Darn, I had an idea, but Tyree's first Super Bowl catch was his sixth (four regular season, one postseason). If harvin makes some amazing drive-extending miracle catch the 'guy with less than ten catches making a huge play' will definitely become a thing in future super bowls. mikaloyd: Shame Us: Seriously, he was talking into a camera about one guy. Yes it was nationally televised, but there is no way you can say it's worse than what we know players say on the field. We have clear video of players in various sports calling people f*ggots and impugning their lineagewives/sisters etc. The odd thing is that most all the other trash talkers spew their crap during a game at the person to whom they are trash talking. They almost never mistake an aprez-game interview camera for the intended target of their trash talking. That is the puzzling aspect of this whole misunderstanding. Could the camera have resembled Crabtree somehow? Yeah. That part is the issue, I think. Not what he said, or who he said it about, but the fact that the public was seeing what is usually reserved for on-field interactions, a la his trash talk with Pierre Garcon last season in the wildcard round. I think that because it was so late in the game and because Crabtree treated his "Helluva game" handshake deal with open contempt, it fed into the rant. No, this is not me defending what he said, how he said it or who he said it to/at. Just saying that I can see where it seems to have come from. As a Seahawks fan, I wish he hadn't done it that way. mikaloyd: Shame Us: Seriously, he was talking into a camera about one guy. Yes it was nationally televised, but there is no way you can say it's worse than what we know players say on the field. We have clear video of players in various sports calling people f*ggots and impugning their lineagewives/sisters etc. The odd thing is that most all the other trash talkers spew their crap during a game at the person to whom they are trash talking. They almost never mistake an aprez-game interview camera for the intended target of their trash talking. That is the puzzling aspect of this whole misunderstanding. Could the camera have resembled Crabtree somehow? Maybe if Crabtree hadn't shoved him in the face after he tried to shake his hand and congratulate him on a good game, he wouldn't have felt the need to tell the world how much of a mediocre receiver he is. YOU'RE ALL MAKING BABY JESUS CRY NOW STAHP If you slow it way down, you can see Crabtree tripping over the grassy knoll. What the hell is a grassy knoll doing in the end zone? WhyKnot: stappawho: spiderpaz: get in a reporters face and scream at her to the point that she is visibly afraid. Ok, whatever you say. I certainly have been a proponent that his antics were "thuggish" in that interview...but she was not afraid...she was taken back by how emotional and angry he seemed to be...but she wasn't 'afraid', let along 'visibly afraid'. There was a perfectly human reaction to someone shouting 5 inches from your face. "You expect these guys to play like maniacs and animals for 60 minutes," Erin Andrews told USA TODAY "And then 90 seconds after he makes a career-defining, game-changing play, I'm gonna be mad because he's not giving me a cliché answer, 'That's what Seahawks football is all about and that's what we came to do and we practice for those situations.' No you don't. That was awesome. That was so awesome. And I loved it." This is like rasslin' hype. The Broncos are the babyface and the Seahawks are the heel. Adds credibility to the theory that the NFL is a staged show, not a legitimate competition. stappawho: PluckYew: Who is going to be the 1st Seahawk fan to rage quit Fark because of all the negative Seahawk/Sherman greens? It's not the Seahawks fans that are raging. Also: Aren't we quite the hypocrites as fans/media types when athletes give us the SOS when it comes to responding to reporters questions and some of us biatch about how boring they are. Then someone like Sherman comes along and everybody's clutching their pearls and searching for the nearest couch to faint on beacuse "OMG~! HE SAID SOMETHING 'CONTROVERSIAL' OR 'OUTLANDISH'~!" Maybe we need to stop feeding into this at either direction. uncoveror: This is like rasslin' hype. The Broncos are the babyface and the Seahawks are the heel. Adds credibility to the theory that the NFL is a staged show, not a legitimate competition. See, now if the 'Hawks get into "Stone Cold" Steve Austin heel mode circa 1997-98, that might be awesome. The_Sponge: LessO2: Yet, we can count on all the Seahawk "faithful" to post dozens of times in this thread. Already started. Then why are you here? For the lulz of course. You and some others ought to try it. Get outside once in awhile and stop taking sports so g-damned seriously. spiderpaz: Shame Us: AdmirableSnackbar: It wouldn't have been a jump ball if it had been thrown properly. The way it was thrown it was a jump ball at the front of the end zone. It was only because the ball was underthrown that Sherman was able to extend and deflect the pass. If it was deeper it's beyond his reach and Crabtree has a chance to make a back-corner catch while shielding Sherman off with his back. Kaep was consistently underthrowing his passes all game, severely so on the two picks. Yu're assuming that had Kaep thrown the pass deeper into the endzone, Sherman would have played it exactly the same way? Crabtree would have too? If the ball is throw 5 yards deeper, the two guys aren't going to be playing for it the same way. Sherman wouldn't have leapt for the ball 5 yards short and Crabtree would have kept running toward the back of the endzone. The fact is that Sherman doesn't give up the fade. They've tried a handful of times this season and the best outcome has been an incomplete pass. He has now tipped passes to his teammates twice on fades. That play was entirely Kaep's fault. Unless it's fourth down, it makes no sense trying to squeeze that pass in against a tall corner like Sherman. He could have thrown it away, looked for another option, or just scrambled for 2 or 3 yards. If he'd thrown it deeper, at least it may not have been at risk of being intercepted. Good QB's thrown it where nobody but the receiver can catch it, even if it makes it harder to get to. It's not his fault they lost though. With someone that couldn't run like him, they would have never been able to get the opportunities they got. His legs are what made it so possible to move the ball against Seattle. It was a battle down to the wire because he brought an X factor that leveled the scale. Manning's going to face some tighter coverage because they don't have to worry one iota about him scrambling. This. Kaep made some amazing plays in that game. IIRC, I don't think he's ever run the ball that well against Seattle - even if you remove the huge 58-yarder. His TD pass to Boldin was a thing of beauty - also a huge risk considering where Thomas was on the play, but he made a throw that no QB has the right to make off of a scrambling back-foot gazelle hop. In the late 3rd-4th quarter though, the wheels came off. His rushes were being bottled up, his throws were off, his timing was off, his pocket presence was total crap, etc. How much of that was him and how much was the Seattle defense wearing him/his WR/his o-line down is up for debate. Shame Us: As a Seahawks fan, I wish he hadn't done it that way. I'm glad he did because now I get to buy a "Don't You Ever Talk About Me" t-shirt at an outrageous price for a chance at some SB tix. And if I win those AND the Seahawks win, good LORD I'm going to be obnoxious to the haters. I'll probably get perma-banned. LessO2: The_Sponge: LessO2: Yet, we can count on all the Seahawk "faithful" to post dozens of times in this thread. Already started. Then why are you here? For the lulz of course. You and some others ought to try it. Get outside once in awhile and stop taking sports so g-damned seriously. I love the people that think they're the only ones who lead productive lives and still manage to be on the internet during the day. Everyone else is a shut-in living on hot pockets and cheetos. IAmRight: Shame Us: As a Seahawks fan, I wish he hadn't done it that way. I'm glad he did because now I get to buy a "Don't You Ever Talk About Me" t-shirt at an outrageous price for a chance at some SB tix. And if I win those AND the Seahawks win, good LORD I'm going to be obnoxious to the haters. I'll probably get perma-banned. you've got to be kidding ... you have a higher gear than the one you're using? Bunny Deville: YOU'RE ALL MAKING BABY JESUS CRY NOW STAHP ongbok: Maybe if Crabtree hadn't shoved him in the face after he tried to shake his hand and congratulate him on a good game, he wouldn't have felt the need to tell the world how much of a mediocre receiver he is. Maybe if they used La-Z-Boys instead of folding chairs Bobby Knight wouldnt have thrown them. Maybe if sand was a WMD Bush would have been 100% justified in farking up Iraq. Maybe if Grandma watched ESPN she'd give up her daytime story shows. You just never can tell. Still haven't topped Ron Artest, Sherman. If you don't knock out a Broncos fan next week, no one will respect you. stappawho: WhyKnot: stappawho: spiderpaz: get in a reporters face and scream at her to the point that she is visibly afraid. Ok, whatever you say. I certainly have been a proponent that his antics were "thuggish" in that interview...but she was not afraid...she was taken back by how emotional and angry he seemed to be...but she wasn't 'afraid', let along 'visibly afraid'. There was a perfectly human reaction to someone shouting 5 inches from your face. "You expect these guys to play like maniacs and animals for 60 minutes," Erin Andrews told USA TODAY "And then 90 seconds after he makes a career-defining, game-changing play, I'm gonna be mad because he's not giving me a cliché answer, 'That's what Seahawks football is all about and that's what we came to do and we practice for those situations.' No you don't. That was awesome. That was so awesome. And I loved it." absolutely agree. Bunny Deville: YOU'RE ALL MAKING BABY JESUS CRY NOW STAHP YOU ARE NOT THE BABY JESUS BUNNY! PEYTON MANNING IS! WE ALL KNOW IT! mikaloyd: Bunny Deville: YOU'RE ALL MAKING BABY JESUS CRY NOW STAHP ongbok: Maybe if Crabtree hadn't shoved him in the face after he tried to shake his hand and congratulate him on a good game, he wouldn't have felt the need to tell the world how much of a mediocre receiver he is. Maybe if they used La-Z-Boys instead of folding chairs Bobby Knight wouldnt have thrown them. Maybe if sand was a WMD Bush would have been 100% justified in farking up Iraq. Maybe if Grandma watched ESPN she'd give up her daytime story shows. You just never can tell. Yeah, but I going to say that Crabtree's own actions less than 2 minutes before the interview led to him being called out. IAmRight: And if I win those AND the Seahawks win, good LORD I'm going to be obnoxious to the haters. I'll probably get perma-banned. with as thin-skinned as SEA has been over the last 3-4 years, you'll (SEA fan, not "you" IAmRight) be insufferable either way. if you win, you won't STFU about it. if you lose, you'll spend the nest year pissing your panties about That One Call that blew the game. the only possible scenario in which you won't be insufferable is a 48-9 beatdown, in which case you'll have no room to talk. but of course that won't happen. ongbok: mikaloyd: Bunny Deville: YOU'RE ALL MAKING BABY JESUS CRY NOW STAHP ongbok: Maybe if Crabtree hadn't shoved him in the face after he tried to shake his hand and congratulate him on a good game, he wouldn't have felt the need to tell the world how much of a mediocre receiver he is. Maybe if they used La-Z-Boys instead of folding chairs Bobby Knight wouldnt have thrown them. Maybe if sand was a WMD Bush would have been 100% justified in farking up Iraq. Maybe if Grandma watched ESPN she'd give up her daytime story shows. You just never can tell. Yeah, but I going to say that Crabtree's own actions less than 2 minutes before the interview led to him being called out. But Sherman should have done the more accepted thing and waited until he could tweet his comments. It's honestly mind-boggling to me that if he had said the same exact thing via tweet 20 minutes after the game, this story would have probably been one greenlit headline with 100 comments and then it'd be over. ongbok: Yeah, but I going to say that Crabtree's own actions less than 2 minutes before the interview led to him being called out. Douches often get screamed at by other douches. Its the circle of douche. Nobody is calling Crabtree a hero or victim here IAmRight: Shame Us: The expectations of how a guy coming off of an Achilles tear would open up the offense were way too high The amount his impact was overstated was ridiculous, as well. 49ers offense without Crabtree: 24.91 points/game 49ers offense with Crabtree: 24.38 points/game WHOA WHAT A HUGE WEAPON! If the Vikings had those extra .53 points against the Packers, the Bears would have made the playoffs. :) spiderpaz: you've got to be kidding ... you have a higher gear than the one you're using? Thus far I've mostly stuck to defending my player and pointing out when people are clearly going over the line with their racism, and the smack about Crabtree has had a hint of joking to it. If we win and b*tches STILL want to talk sh*t? Oh, I've been downright civil to this point. JohnBigBootay: IAmRight: Darn, I had an idea, but Tyree's first Super Bowl catch was his sixth (four regular season, one postseason). If harvin makes some amazing drive-extending miracle catch the 'guy with less than ten catches making a huge play' will definitely become a thing in future super bowls. Actually, we forgot another obvious one: Mike Vrabel - though in both the years where he caught SB TDs, he had a couple TDs in the regular season, too. Less than 5, though. /Fridge could count but that was a run //Vrabel: 12 career receptions for 17 yards and 12 TDs ongbok: mikaloyd: Bunny Deville: YOU'RE ALL MAKING BABY JESUS CRY NOW STAHP ongbok: Maybe if Crabtree hadn't shoved him in the face after he tried to shake his hand and congratulate him on a good game, he wouldn't have felt the need to tell the world how much of a mediocre receiver he is. Maybe if they used La-Z-Boys instead of folding chairs Bobby Knight wouldnt have thrown them. Maybe if sand was a WMD Bush would have been 100% justified in farking up Iraq. Maybe if Grandma watched ESPN she'd give up her daytime story shows. You just never can tell. Yeah, but I going to say that Crabtree's own actions less than 2 minutes before the interview led to him being called out. I find it funny that people are blaming Crabtree...dude, if someone has been giving you the business all game, all week, they make a great play that ends your season...you are walking away back to your sideline and then that same person has obviously sought you out and said, "great game, great game", as sincere as Sherman may have been (which he likely was as I think he actually is a nice guy, just a fierce competitor), it is perfectly reasonable for Crabtree to think otherwise. But don't let that stop your blaming Crabtree for a face shove while excusing Sherman yelling on national TV (because he was emotional after all). skrame: If the Vikings had those extra .53 points against the Packers, the Bears would have made the playoffs. :) Well, they actually got .53 points worse with Crabtree. doesn't erin andrews look 50 years old? i said recently she looks like she aged 10 years in 5. maybe it just the lighting or something, but......she looks way older there than she did maybe 1-2 years ago. Shame Us: This. Kaep made some amazing plays in that game. IIRC, I don't think he's ever run the ball that well against Seattle - even if you remove the huge 58-yarder. His TD pass to Boldin was a thing of beauty - also a huge risk considering where Thomas was on the play, but he made a throw that no QB has the right to make off of a scrambling back-foot gazelle hop. In the late 3rd-4th quarter though, the wheels came off. His rushes were being bottled up, his throws were off, his timing was off, his pocket presence was total crap, etc. How much of that was him and how much was the Seattle defense wearing him/his WR/his o-line down is up for debate. Kaep was playing from behind. When that happens, or when he feels the game is his to win or lose, he holds the ball longer and tries to go for long kill plays. That's what led to his fumble. He also tends to make poor throws and gets snookered easily because he panics, leading to his two picks. WhyKnot: if someone has been giving you the business all game, all week Crabtree was the only one that said anything all week, saying "no, I don't think so" when someone asked him if Sherman was the best CB in the game. /which admittedly isn't much //have no problem with Crabtree pushing him ///have no problem with Sherman responding by calling him out ////do have a problem with people outraged that a beef was made public Shame Us: LessO2: The_Sponge: LessO2: Yet, we can count on all the Seahawk "faithful" to post dozens of times in this thread. Already started. Then why are you here? For the lulz of course. You and some others ought to try it. Get outside once in awhile and stop taking sports so g-damned seriously. I love the people that think they're the only ones who lead productive lives and still manage to be on the internet during the day. Everyone else is a shut-in living on hot pockets and cheetos. Count the number of your posts alone, and then count mine. I'll just leave it at that. IAmRight: WhyKnot: if someone has been giving you the business all game, all week Crabtree was the only one that said anything all week, saying "no, I don't think so" when someone asked him if Sherman was the best CB in the game. /which admittedly isn't much //have no problem with Crabtree pushing him ///have no problem with Sherman responding by calling him out ////do have a problem with people outraged that a beef was made public stand corrected on "all week" /we are substantially in the same place on this topic...I say substantial based upon the previous thread ;-) What is the over/under on number of plays "2-play" Percy will play. You know, it's hard being a Seahawks fan. Why can't our players be classy and sportsmanlike, like that nice young man from San Francisco who clotheslined Jeremy Lane on the sidelines? BMulligan: Why can't our players be classy and sportsmanlike probably all of the PEDs /that being said, I am hopeful that whoever did it is held responsible, similar to that butthole from the jets that attempted something similar a few years ago IAmRight: //Vrabel: 12 career receptions for 17 yards and 12 TDs Daaaaaaaaaaamn. He's like the most efficient receiver of all time. WhyKnot: probably all of the PEDs Funnied spiderpaz: That play was entirely Kaep's fault I'm going to point out that the clock was winding down to under 30 seconds, and the 49ers had two timeouts left. Methinks the pressure of the situation hurt him, and that they'd have been better off calling one of their timeouts there. To change this tired topic (or at least attempt to...), does SF bother bringing Whitner back? He was the main guy responsible for Kearse's 4th down TD reception. He's a pretty expensive safety to have that bad of a brain fart on what should've been an easy deep middle assignment. PluckYew: What is the over/under on number of plays "2-play" Percy will play. He is fragile but it's the super bowl. I suspect we'll see him the whole game unless he gets carted off. Can't imagine he'd sit out with a headache for this one. PluckYew: Who is going to be the 1st Seahawk fan to rage quit Fark because of all the negative Seahawk/Sherman greens? That already happened with a Cowboys fan during the epic tidal wave of December Cowboys threads. mikaloyd: Bunny Deville: YOU'RE ALL MAKING BABY JESUS CRY NOW STAHP YOU ARE NOT THE BABY JESUS BUNNY! PEYTON MANNING IS! WE ALL KNOW IT! They won't stop, mika. They won't STOP. Make them STOP. 1000 posts about Sherman in the last few days. There are other things to talk about than someone who got excited and said some shiat! Jesus H. Piebald Christ in a jumped up Chevy, if I had this amount of discussion for every time I made a social faux pas, well, I'd be a well and thouroughly discussed individual... MAKE IT STAAAAAAAAAHP Killer Cars: To change this tired topic (or at least attempt to...), does SF bother bringing Whitner back? He was the main guy responsible for Kearse's 4th down TD reception. He's a pretty expensive safety to have that bad of a brain fart on what should've been an easy deep middle assignment. Of course they won't. He said his name will be Hitner next year. puffy999: spiderpaz: That play was entirely Kaep's fault I'm going to point out that the clock was winding down to under 30 seconds, and the 49ers had two timeouts left. Methinks the pressure of the situation hurt him, and that they'd have been better off calling one of their timeouts there. I actually think Kaep threw at Sherman on purpose...meaning, I think both Kaep and Crabtree wanted to end the game by beating Sherman...now, I haven't seen anything that has indicated that this happened, but it seems a little too perfect for me. Kaep plays with a lot of confidence (i.e. 4th and 7 and completes to Gore), I think he wanted to write the story line of beating Sherman...he didn't want to win the game and give Sherman any ability to talk "yeah well, you didn't win the game by coming at me"..so with that in mind he went right at Sherman...and well, the rest is history. /the play was awesome and will likely be one of those plays that people remember for a long time mikaloyd: sammyk: Am I racist if I just think he is an asshole of epic proportions? The worse your opinion of Sherman's interview style, the more racist you are. Now if you only thought he was a micro asshole youd only be a tiny bit racist. As it is though, on the sliding racism scale, you are a little worse than Paula Deen or Jesse Jackson but not nearly as bad as Hitler. Well I was going for Hitler damnit! Thanks for ruining my dreams! LessO2: Shame Us: LessO2: The_Sponge: LessO2: Yet, we can count on all the Seahawk "faithful" to post dozens of times in this thread. Already started. Then why are you here? For the lulz of course. You and some others ought to try it. Get outside once in awhile and stop taking sports so g-damned seriously. I love the people that think they're the only ones who lead productive lives and still manage to be on the internet during the day. Everyone else is a shut-in living on hot pockets and cheetos. Count the number of your posts alone, and then count mine. I'll just leave it at that. OK. Still, I'm not sitting in my mom's basement with my gut hanging out of my pants or something. I'm at work, my job is getting done, my bills are being paid, me and my wife have heath insurance and pensions and etc, etc, etc. But don't let that stop you from being a dumbass. TwoBeersOneCan: PluckYew: Who is going to be the 1st Seahawk fan to rage quit Fark because of all the negative Seahawk/Sherman greens? That already happened with a Cowboys fan during the epic tidal wave of December Cowboys threads. That was glorious. WhyKnot: I actually think Kaep threw at Sherman on purpose...meaning, I think both Kaep and Crabtree wanted to end the game by beating Sherman...now, I haven't seen anything that has indicated that this happened, but it seems a little too perfect for me. Kaep plays with a lot of confidence (i.e. 4th and 7 and completes to Gore), I think he wanted to write the story line of beating Sherman...he didn't want to win the game and give Sherman any ability to talk "yeah well, you didn't win the game by coming at me"..so with that in mind he went right at Sherman...and well, the rest is history. I'm telling you, man, Beats had both the Kaepernick and Sherman ads ready. Dre was at the stadium. He radioed that call in to Kaepernick - either way his player comes away with the big play at the other's expense. If Kaepernick wins, his commercial becomes perfectly appropriate - he blocked out the Seattle fans and delivered a huge win. If Sherman wins, he had to do something like what he did, then his commercial ends up being perfect for the moment. WhyKnot: /the play was awesome and will likely be one of those plays that people remember for a long time You think? Cletus C.: WhyKnot: /the play was awesome and will likely be one of those plays that people remember for a long time You think? Right up there with The Double as far as I'm concerned. Shame Us: Cletus C.: WhyKnot: /the play was awesome and will likely be one of those plays that people remember for a long time You think? Right up there with The Double as far as I'm concerned. Edgaaaaaaaar JohnBigBootay: PluckYew: What is the over/under on number of plays "2-play" Percy will play. He is fragile but it's the super bowl. I suspect we'll see him the whole game unless he gets carted off. Can't imagine he'd sit out with a headache for this one. I seem to remember that the contract was pretty Seattle friendly, but I can't remember the details. If they can bail on him next season, I wonder if they'll apply the savings to Tate/Baldwin and then draft a few big body WRs instead. whizbangthedirtfarmer: JohnBigBootay: PluckYew: What is the over/under on number of plays "2-play" Percy will play. He is fragile but it's the super bowl. I suspect we'll see him the whole game unless he gets carted off. Can't imagine he'd sit out with a headache for this one. I seem to remember that the contract was pretty Seattle friendly, but I can't remember the details. If they can bail on him next season, I wonder if they'll apply the savings to Tate/Baldwin and then draft a few big body WRs instead. His guaranteed money continues thru next season, but not after. As far as the headache thing goes, he hasn't missed a game for a migraine in what, 3 years? TwoBeersOneCan: PluckYew: Who is going to be the 1st Seahawk fan to rage quit Fark because of all the negative Seahawk/Sherman greens? That already happened with a Cowboys fan during the epic tidal wave of December Cowboys threads. and the reason I brought it up. I thought it was funny. Expect a Seahawk rage quit if they lose the Superb Owl and there are repeated greens about how horrible their organization is JohnBigBootay: PluckYew: What is the over/under on number of plays "2-play" Percy will play. He is fragile but it's the super bowl. I suspect we'll see him the whole game unless he gets carted off. Can't imagine he'd sit out with a headache for this one. He might not have a choice if he gets his 'bell rung': http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000228345/article/safety-rules-r e gulations The 2009 statement advises that a player who suffers a concussion should not return to play or practice on the same day if he shows any signs or symptoms of a concussion that are outlined in the return-to-play statement. It further states: "Once removed for the duration of a practice or game, the player should not be considered for return-to-football activities until he is fully asymptomatic, both at rest and after exertion, has a normal neurological examination, normal neuropsychological testing, and has been cleared to return by both his team physician(s) and the independent neurological consultant. A critical element of managing concussions is candid reporting by players of their symptoms following an injury. Accordingly, players are to be encouraged to be candid with team medical staffs and fully disclose any signs or symptoms that may be associated with a concussion." Bane of Broone: TwoBeersOneCan: PluckYew: Who is going to be the 1st Seahawk fan to rage quit Fark because of all the negative Seahawk/Sherman greens? That already happened with a Cowboys fan during the epic tidal wave of December Cowboys threads. That was glorious. It was certainly something to witness, but I'll miss the trivia in the power rankings threads. Maybe someone will pick up the slack next season. Shame Us: As far as the headache thing goes, he hasn't missed a game for a migraine in what, 3 years? I can't imagine playing football with a migraine. For that matter, I can't imagine even being in Century Link during a game with a migraine - and I say that as someone who once attended a Slayer concert while suffering a migraine. PluckYew: Expect a Seahawk rage quit if they lose the Superb Owl and there are repeated greens about how horrible their organization is Yeah...those horrible organizations that undergo overhauls from 4-12 to the Super Bowl in 4 seasons are so horrible. I hate it when owners hire successful coaches and GMs, who in turn sign/draft elite players and then succeed on the field. Just horrible. PluckYew: TwoBeersOneCan: PluckYew: Who is going to be the 1st Seahawk fan to rage quit Fark because of all the negative Seahawk/Sherman greens? That already happened with a Cowboys fan during the epic tidal wave of December Cowboys threads. and the reason I brought it up. I thought it was funny. Expect a Seahawk rage quit if they lose the Superb Owl and there are repeated greens about how horrible their organization is JohnBigBootay: PluckYew: What is the over/under on number of plays "2-play" Percy will play. He is fragile but it's the super bowl. I suspect we'll see him the whole game unless he gets carted off. Can't imagine he'd sit out with a headache for this one. He might not have a choice if he gets his 'bell rung': http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000228345/article/safety-rules-r e gulations The 2009 statement advises that a player who suffers a concussion should not return to play or practice on the same day if he shows any signs or symptoms of a concussion that are outlined in the return-to-play statement. It further states: "Once removed for the duration of a practice or game, the player should not be considered for return-to-football activities until he is fully asymptomatic, both at rest and after exertion, has a normal neurological examination, normal neuropsychological testing, and has been cleared to return by both his team physician(s) and the independent neurological consultant. A critical element of managing concussions is candid reporting by players of their symptoms following an injury. Accordingly, players are to be encouraged to be candid with team medical staffs and fully disclose any signs or symptoms that may be associated with a concussion." Well that was a FARK up and a half. Started replying to one comment by quoting, typed a partial response, thought I'd better of it and focused on the next comment. Forgot to delete the original post. Stupid part is I had previewed a couple of times to get the NFL link correct. 1+ year in and I STILL can't link using the "new" interface. Ow! That was my feelings!: Ow! That was my feelings!: Phil Moskowitz: But no one saw what D'glester Hardunkichud said at half time. It's all just water under the bridge with that guy. [pixel.nymag.com image 190x190] "I could talk about Fudge all day." Although, Nyquillus is my favorite. [content.clearchannel.com image 381x309] Yeah, but all the speed is coming out of the West. Even 'football speed' Bunny Deville: mikaloyd: Bunny Deville: YOU'RE ALL MAKING BABY JESUS CRY NOW STAHP YOU ARE NOT THE BABY JESUS BUNNY! PEYTON MANNING IS! WE ALL KNOW IT! They won't stop, mika. They won't STOP. Make them STOP. 1000 posts about Sherman in the last few days. There are other things to talk about than someone who got excited and said some shiat! Jesus H. Piebald Christ in a jumped up Chevy, if I had this amount of discussion for every time I made a social faux pas, well, I'd be a well and thouroughly discussed individual... MAKE IT STAAAAAAAAAHP [Music by Tom Petty; new Lyrics to 'To Be Me'] Marshawn ran the ball all day The Hawks wanted to put the game away Kaepernick threw the best he could And Crabtree was in the neighborhood The man had been ignored all game But now everyone will know his name Sports writers just won't let it die As Sherman helps the Seahawks fly Andrews got to the point And his answer was out of joint Analysts would replay The sound bytes all day This must be how it feels This must be how it feels To be Di /and all the other Cowboys fans that have taken crap this year. Shame Us: His guaranteed money continues thru next season, but not after. Let's put it this way: "His guaranteed money continues until Sherman and Thomas can become free agents." Shame Us: PluckYew: Expect a Seahawk rage quit if they lose the Superb Owl and there are repeated greens about how horrible their organization is Yeah...those horrible organizations that undergo overhauls from 4-12 to the Super Bowl in 4 seasons are so horrible. I hate it when owners hire successful coaches and GMs, who in turn sign/draft elite players and then succeed on the field. Just horrible. I hadn't completed the thought, way to jump on that though. Not your fault, my screwup. bionicjoe: Ow! That was my feelings!: Ow! That was my feelings!: Phil Moskowitz: But no one saw what D'glester Hardunkichud said at half time. It's all just water under the bridge with that guy. [pixel.nymag.com image 190x190] "I could talk about Fudge all day." Although, Nyquillus is my favorite. [content.clearchannel.com image 381x309] Yeah, but all the speed is coming out of the West. [davehulihan.com image 439x246] Even 'football speed' [cdn.na16.netdna-cdn.com image 602x343] Let's not forget the defensive player from Stanford who made the game-winning play and had a memorable postgame interview: Ozamataz Buckshank. (Actually, that interview sounds more like a standard Russell Wilson interview.) tricycleracer: Back and to the left. Back and to the left. Back and to the left. Back and to the left. It's gotten to the point that the Richard Sherman "outburst" has already been dissected more times than the Zapruder film It's getting to the point Where I'm no thug anymore Elll ohhh beeeee-eeeee Sometimes it hurts So badly I must cry out loud Erin, I am sorrrry I ain't yours, it is mine, you are mediocre The Super Bowl Yo Crab, remember what you and done and said about the greatest biatch, I have no mercy Go check the scoreboard and see what you don't have now (I am not dreaming) I ain't yours, it is mine, you are mediocre You suck so bad Super Bowl Sunday Please be gone I'm tired of you We own the NFC Russel Wilson's pump fake NaVorro's busted ass leg How can you catch the Seahawk? Shame Us: As far as the headache thing goes, he hasn't missed a game for a migraine in what, 3 years? Sorry - that's what came up in my 'why percy harvin didn't play' generator. (not that migraines are funny. migraines are NOT funny and I have 'played through' my share. Luckily no one is trying to tackle me when I have them. If I thought that were a possibility I'd stay home that day too.) BMulligan: Shame Us: As far as the headache thing goes, he hasn't missed a game for a migraine in what, 3 years? I can't imagine playing football with a migraine. For that matter, I can't imagine even being in Century Link during a game with a migraine - and I say that as someone who once attended a Slayer concert while suffering a migraine. I used to get severe migraines until I had sinus surgery that basically restructured the whole damned situation. I can't imagine getting out of bed with a migraine, much less suiting up and playing football. If Harvin says he has a migraine, I'm with him. Remember Terrell Davis talking about playing with a migraine--all he could see were colors, so he ran away from the ones that weren't orange. As a WR, Harvin would be useless as he would be unable to focus on the ball while it was in the air. Just look at these Thugs. Sherman looks like a Thug to me. I heard that he gains the confidence of Hindu travelers and then strangles them with a handkerchief so he can abscond with their valuables. He thinks that making on offer to Vishnu absolves his guilt, but I'm not fooled. IAmRight: WhyKnot: I actually think Kaep threw at Sherman on purpose...meaning, I think both Kaep and Crabtree wanted to end the game by beating Sherman...now, I haven't seen anything that has indicated that this happened, but it seems a little too perfect for me. Kaep plays with a lot of confidence (i.e. 4th and 7 and completes to Gore), I think he wanted to write the story line of beating Sherman...he didn't want to win the game and give Sherman any ability to talk "yeah well, you didn't win the game by coming at me"..so with that in mind he went right at Sherman...and well, the rest is history. I'm telling you, man, Beats had both the Kaepernick and Sherman ads ready. Dre was at the stadium. He radioed that call in to Kaepernick - either way his player comes away with the big play at the other's expense. If Kaepernick wins, his commercial becomes perfectly appropriate - he blocked out the Seattle fans and delivered a huge win. If Sherman wins, he had to do something like what he did, then his commercial ends up being perfect for the moment. It's going to be hard for the super bowl to live up to the intensity and drama of that game. If you look back, the NFC championship has a lot of moments that eclipsed the super bowl. I really don't know what to expect. It could be a low scoring snoozer, or a shootout, or a blowout by either team potentially. You could make and argument for each. spiderpaz: It could be a low scoring snoozer, or a shootout, or a blowout by either team potentially. You could make and argument for each. last i checked the o/u was i think 47.5. i say under, and SEA wins like, 25-17, 27-15. i say under BIGTIME and I just don't see Denver scoring a lot. and denver gave up points a lot this year. like they gave up something like 48 to Dallas, yet still won. SEA's defense is no joke. I just can't see Peyton doing a whole lot against this secondary. a 35-30 shootout would shock me. one, I can't see SEA giving up that many points. i think Denver was favored, and I get that, Peyton is a popular bet and all, i just don't see DEN matching up well with these guys. SEA, high single digits. maybe 10-12 points. spiderpaz: It's going to be hard for the super bowl to live up to the intensity and drama of that game. If you look back, the NFC championship has a lot of moments that eclipsed the super bowl. I really don't know what to expect. It could be a low scoring snoozer, or a shootout, or a blowout by either team potentially. You could make and argument for each. Here's hoping for Seahawks 55, Broncos 10 for the lulz. OMG now I really want to see that and have them show Elway's face with the graphic of the other time that happened on split screen for the second half. rickythepenguin: spiderpaz: It could be a low scoring snoozer, or a shootout, or a blowout by either team potentially. You could make and argument for each. last i checked the o/u was i think 47.5. i say under, and SEA wins like, 25-17, 27-15. i say under BIGTIME and I just don't see Denver scoring a lot. and denver gave up points a lot this year. like they gave up something like 48 to Dallas, yet still won. SEA's defense is no joke. I just can't see Peyton doing a whole lot against this secondary. a 35-30 shootout would shock me. one, I can't see SEA giving up that many points. i think Denver was favored, and I get that, Peyton is a popular bet and all, i just don't see DEN matching up well with these guys. SEA, high single digits. maybe 10-12 points. I'm with you on this. Due to all the trouble the Seattle offense has had getting going, they are not going to break 24 points. The defense is going to give Manning a run for his money on multiple fronts. This is going to come down to which Defense can score some points from a pick 6 or turn over. It will take multiple defensive scores to hit an over like that. I don't see it, especially if there is lots of snow going on. /Also, I liked your cut of Suite Sherman Blue Eyes Semper IvXx: IAmRight: Semper IvXx: And yet, better than any receiver on the Seahawks. Not really. AdmirableSnackbar: Crabtree had beaten Sherman Wherein by beaten you mean "shoved Sherman in the back to illegally create separation" Oh OK then. I forgot how good Doug Baldwin is I guess. Him and that other guy they have. Old what's his name. Big talent on that guy, I think he's only been cut four times. /if you think any receiver on the Seahawks is as good as Crabtree when healthy you might be a delusional fan and not as informed as you pretend to be The purpose of Seattle's recievers isn't to actually catch balls, though. It's to keep safetys and linebackers honest for this guy. They don't have to be superstars and make huge plays all the time (even though they do tend to step up at opportune moments.) Lynch is the engine that makes the Seahawks offense go, and Lynch is also the best defense they have against Peyton Manning. The more Lynch runs, the more Manning will be watching from the sidelines. harleyquinnical: Due to all the trouble the Seattle offense has had getting going, they are not going to break 24 points. Sure they will. They've put up 23 in each playoff game against defenses a hell of a lot better than Denver's. /and the defense hasn't scored in an awful long time //there's no snow predicted Rent Party: The purpose of Seattle's recievers isn't to actually catch balls, though. It's to keep safetys and linebackers honest for this guy. And block. But all they do is make big plays and block happily. It's like a team full of Hines Wards. harleyquinnical: Due to all the trouble the Seattle offense has had getting going, they are not going to break 24 points. The defense is going to give Manning a run for his money on multiple fronts. This is going to come down to which Defense can score some points from a pick 6 or turn over. It will take multiple defensive scores to hit an over like that. I don't see it, especially if there is lots of snow going on. i don't think the weather will be an issue, unless it is is like, crazy ass cold, like 15 and snowing, in whcih case you would think Denver would have the edge. But, i can't recall the last time Denver had one of "those" snow games. arguably SEA might have had the last snow game; one or two years ago SEA got a freak storm and they played. yeah, SEA isn't the highest scoring team out there, but they don't need to be. If Wilson can play within him self and avoid carpeting the ball (like the first play sunday), I think they have enough weapons to put points ont he board, even if it is just conservative red zone play (i.e., FGs). DEN has a few legit options (Decker, Welker) but Peyton is more about the shorter routes. he doesn't have the same grip/arm to stretch the field like he migth have 5+ years ago. SEA can keep the field relatively "squeezed" and limit his options. and, to the extent the Donks may want to run the ball, the SEA line is pretty tough. DEN just hasn't played this good of an defense this year, so they can watch all the film they want, but when they line up they'll see what the NFC West has been like for the past 2-3 years. I haven't bet since like week 8 or so (lost my ass,$100 down the drain) but thinking of laying some of the CHEDDAH on this game.

harleyquinnical: rickythepenguin: spiderpaz: It could be a low scoring snoozer, or a shootout, or a blowout by either team potentially. You could make and argument for each.

last i checked the o/u was i think 47.5.  i say under, and SEA wins like, 25-17, 27-15.  i say under BIGTIME and I just don't see Denver scoring a lot.  and denver gave up points a lot this year.  like they gave up something like 48 to Dallas, yet still won.

SEA's defense is no joke.  I just can't see Peyton doing a whole lot against this secondary.

a 35-30 shootout would shock me.  one, I can't see SEA giving up that many points.  i think Denver was favored, and I get that, Peyton is a popular bet and all, i just don't see DEN matching up well with these guys.

SEA, high single digits.  maybe 10-12 points.

I'm with you on this.  Due to all the trouble the Seattle offense has had getting going, they are not going to break 24 points.  The defense is going to give Manning a run for his money on multiple fronts.  This is going to come down to which Defense can score some points from a pick 6 or turn over.  It will take multiple defensive scores to hit an over like that.  I don't see it, especially if there is lots of snow going on.

/Also, I liked your cut of Suite Sherman Blue Eyes

Denver will be, I think the metrics/numbers bear this out, the worst defense Seattle has faced since...let's see...SF, NO, STL, AZ, NYG, SF, NO...since Minnesota in week 11. Their last 7 games have been vs. Top 13 Defenses (weirdly enough, SF is the worst defense by DVOA that the Seahawks have faced during that stretch). That kinda helps explain why the offensive production has dipped.

rickythepenguin: like 15 and snowing, in whcih case you would think Denver would have the edge.

Um, the passing-based team with the soft defense would have the advantage in the snow over the running-based, defensively strong team?

rickythepenguin: Robert1966: I was impressed by Sherman's follow-up. It seems he got worked up and made an ass of himself, and now feels a little foolish but stands by his expressions of confidence and his feeling that he had been disrespected by someone who is too lazy to play as well as he does. I don't know that there is a racial angle to it, but I guess people on both sides like to put one there.

i said the other day dude was SURGING on adrenalin.  he was about 2-3 minutes (if that) removed from the final whistle, realizing he'd achieved a lifelong dream:  THE SUPER BOWL.  yeah he wsa jacked.  he looked silly and it was exceedingly poor sportsmanship, but, he was just pulsing with adrenalin.

and as i also said, NBC or whomever, fox, whatever, they knew wha tthey were getting.  they specifically chose sherman, knowing he'd go operation codename:  richard sherman.  he went operation codename:  richard sherman and then the network aborted the interview (per dan patrick today;  erin andrews said she wsa told to cut it short).

and once agian, i loved Daryl Wright's tweet:  "dear media:  how about you quit sending erin andrews to interview n___s on live tv?"

You also forgot the part where the interview was less than 2 minutes from Crabtree shoving Sherman in the face when Sherman was congratulating him on a good game and looking for a sportsman-like handshake. I forget, which one of them was the bad sportsman again? People keep saying Sherman, but all I can picture in my head is Crabtree being the douchiest douche that ever douched his way across a football field.

IAmRight: Rent Party: The purpose of Seattle's recievers isn't to actually catch balls, though.  It's to keep safetys and linebackers honest for this guy.

And block. But all they do is make big plays and block happily. It's like a team full of Hines Wards.

Golden Tate blowing up Sean Lee is still one of my top 5 all time football moments.

/ ALL TIME!!

arentol: rickythepenguin: Robert1966: I was impressed by Sherman's follow-up. It seems he got worked up and made an ass of himself, and now feels a little foolish but stands by his expressions of confidence and his feeling that he had been disrespected by someone who is too lazy to play as well as he does. I don't know that there is a racial angle to it, but I guess people on both sides like to put one there.

i said the other day dude was SURGING on adrenalin.  he was about 2-3 minutes (if that) removed from the final whistle, realizing he'd achieved a lifelong dream:  THE SUPER BOWL.  yeah he wsa jacked.  he looked silly and it was exceedingly poor sportsmanship, but, he was just pulsing with adrenalin.

and as i also said, NBC or whomever, fox, whatever, they knew wha tthey were getting.  they specifically chose sherman, knowing he'd go operation codename:  richard sherman.  he went operation codename:  richard sherman and then the network aborted the interview (per dan patrick today;  erin andrews said she wsa told to cut it short).

and once agian, i loved Daryl Wright's tweet:  "dear media:  how about you quit sending erin andrews to interview n___s on live tv?"

You also forgot the part where the interview was less than 2 minutes from Crabtree shoving Sherman in the face when Sherman was congratulating him on a good game and looking for a sportsman-like handshake. I forget, which one of them was the bad sportsman again? People keep saying Sherman, but all I can picture in my head is Crabtree being the douchiest douche that ever douched his way across a football field.

right?!?!  because in that moment what you want is for the dude that has been giving you shiat the entire game to come over and gloat as soon as he ended your season...don't try to paint Sherman as the victim...he was trolling Crabtree and Crabtree didn't want to hear it.

IAmRight: harleyquinnical: Due to all the trouble the Seattle offense has had getting going, they are not going to break 24 points.

Sure they will. They've put up 23 in each playoff game against defenses a hell of a lot better than Denver's.

I get that, but it's going to have a lot more to do with Peyton Manning than the defense.  You can expect him to put together a lot more slow grinding drive with 5 or 6 first downs in them.  A successful drive from a team like SF is usually like 10 plays.  Peyton Manning will eat up the clock and keep his defense of the field.  Which means Seattle's defense will stay on the field and get less rest, and their offense will not have as much time to get in sync.

Either that, or he won't be able to move the ball at all, his defense will get stuck on the field the whole time, and it will snowball against them.

Like I said, I can see it going either way.  Regardless the least likely outcome is a score over 30 from either team.

IAmRight: rickythepenguin: like 15 and snowing, in whcih case you would think Denver would have the edge.

Um, the passing-based team with the soft defense would have the advantage in the snow over the running-based, defensively strong team?

He's probably thinking it will help Denver's shiatty defense cope and let them just focus on the run.  But it will screw with both teams in reality and just throw a lot of random dumb luck into the mix to determine who wins.

arentol: rickythepenguin: Robert1966: I was impressed by Sherman's follow-up. It seems he got worked up and made an ass of himself, and now feels a little foolish but stands by his expressions of confidence and his feeling that he had been disrespected by someone who is too lazy to play as well as he does. I don't know that there is a racial angle to it, but I guess people on both sides like to put one there.

i said the other day dude was SURGING on adrenalin.  he was about 2-3 minutes (if that) removed from the final whistle, realizing he'd achieved a lifelong dream:  THE SUPER BOWL.  yeah he wsa jacked.  he looked silly and it was exceedingly poor sportsmanship, but, he was just pulsing with adrenalin.

and as i also said, NBC or whomever, fox, whatever, they knew wha tthey were getting.  they specifically chose sherman, knowing he'd go operation codename:  richard sherman.  he went operation codename:  richard sherman and then the network aborted the interview (per dan patrick today;  erin andrews said she wsa told to cut it short).

and once agian, i loved Daryl Wright's tweet:  "dear media:  how about you quit sending erin andrews to interview n___s on live tv?"

You also forgot the part where the interview was less than 2 minutes from Crabtree shoving Sherman in the face when Sherman was congratulating him on a good game and looking for a sportsman-like handshake. I forget, which one of them was the bad sportsman again? People keep saying Sherman, but all I can picture in my head is Crabtree being the douchiest douche that ever douched his way across a football field.

Also, this was right before the interview. What a classless thug he is.

Shame Us: PluckYew: Expect a Seahawk rage quit if they lose the Superb Owl and there are repeated greens about how horrible their organization is

Yeah...those horrible organizations that undergo overhauls from 4-12 to the Super Bowl in 4 seasons are so horrible. I hate it when owners hire successful coaches and GMs, who in turn sign/draft elite players and then succeed on the field. Just horrible.

Both teams are pretty good in that regard

Seattle
2008 - 4-12
2009 - 5-11
2010 - 7-9
2011 - 7-9
2012 - 11-5
2013 - 13-3 SuperBowl bound

Denver
2010 - 4-12
2011 - 8-8
2012 - 13-3
2013 - 13-3 SuperBowl bound

INeedAName: Sherman's rant was somewhat classless.

Sherman himself seems to be a pretty down to earth guy.

Neither of these things make him a 'thug.'

Exactly. Everyone single one of these racist douchebag haters needs to watch this video here to see what a thug football player really is:  http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/video-cass-tech-football-player-body-sla m s-security-guard

At the end it all comes out - this is Luther Campbell's kid. You know, from 2 Live Crew? He was already in trouble for punching an opposing player and then he goes and pulls this shiat.

Sherman is loud-mouther and brash. Luther Campbell and his kid are farking thugs. Was that comparison so hard to get, you farking monkeys?

spiderpaz: He's probably thinking it will help Denver's shiatty defense cope and let them just focus on the run.  But it will screw with both teams in reality and just throw a lot of random dumb luck into the mix to determine who wins.

Yeah, the Eagles-Lions game was kinda fun but was I kinda felt bad that it counted as much as a real game.

/sorry, when you can't kick at all, it's not a real game

my lip balm addiction: Exactly. Everyone single one of these racist douchebag haters needs to watch this video here to see what a thug football player really is:  http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/video-cass-tech-football-player-body-sla m s-security-guard

If only that security guard had a gun...he could've had it stolen from him and been shot.

Shame Us: Denver will be, I think the metrics/numbers bear this out, the worst defense Seattle has faced since...let's see...SF, NO, STL, AZ, NYG, SF, NO...since Minnesota in week 11. Their last 7 games have been vs. Top 13 Defenses (weirdly enough, SF is the worst defense by DVOA that the Seahawks have faced during that stretch). That kinda helps explain why the offensive production has dipped.

i haven't checked, were there any common opponents re SEA/DEN this year?  that is not terribly accurate representation but it beats nothing.  i looked at DEN's surrendered point totals a couple days ago, and yeah, they had a few 12-14 point surrendered games (as SEA had a few 12-15 points scored games) but by and large, DEN had some high point totals given up.

dunno.

Bane of Broone: arentol: rickythepenguin: Robert1966: I was impressed by Sherman's follow-up. It seems he got worked up and made an ass of himself, and now feels a little foolish but stands by his expressions of confidence and his feeling that he had been disrespected by someone who is too lazy to play as well as he does. I don't know that there is a racial angle to it, but I guess people on both sides like to put one there.

i said the other day dude was SURGING on adrenalin.  he was about 2-3 minutes (if that) removed from the final whistle, realizing he'd achieved a lifelong dream:  THE SUPER BOWL.  yeah he wsa jacked.  he looked silly and it was exceedingly poor sportsmanship, but, he was just pulsing with adrenalin.

and as i also said, NBC or whomever, fox, whatever, they knew wha tthey were getting.  they specifically chose sherman, knowing he'd go operation codename:  richard sherman.  he went operation codename:  richard sherman and then the network aborted the interview (per dan patrick today;  erin andrews said she wsa told to cut it short).

and once agian, i loved Daryl Wright's tweet:  "dear media:  how about you quit sending erin andrews to interview n___s on live tv?"

You also forgot the part where the interview was less than 2 minutes from Crabtree shoving Sherman in the face when Sherman was congratulating him on a good game and looking for a sportsman-like handshake. I forget, which one of them was the bad sportsman again? People keep saying Sherman, but all I can picture in my head is Crabtree being the douchiest douche that ever douched his way across a football field.

Also, this was right before the interview. What a classless thug he is.

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It's a trick....he was trying to steal her watch.

/I keed.
//Go hawks.

rka: Shame Us: PluckYew: Expect a Seahawk rage quit if they lose the Superb Owl and there are repeated greens about how horrible their organization is

Yeah...those horrible organizations that undergo overhauls from 4-12 to the Super Bowl in 4 seasons are so horrible. I hate it when owners hire successful coaches and GMs, who in turn sign/draft elite players and then succeed on the field. Just horrible.

Both teams are pretty good in that regard

Seattle
2008 - 4-12
2009 - 5-11
2010 - 7-9
2011 - 7-9
2012 - 11-5
2013 - 13-3 SuperBowl bound

Denver
2010 - 4-12
2011 - 8-8
2012 - 13-3
2013 - 13-3 SuperBowl bound

Man. Imagine if Manning hadn't poo-poo'd Seattle. Then imagine if we had still drafted Wilson.

Shame Us: Denver will be, I think the metrics/numbers bear this out, the worst defense Seattle has faced since...let's see...SF, NO, STL, AZ, NYG, SF, NO...since Minnesota in week 11. Their last 7 games have been vs. Top 13 Defenses (weirdly enough, SF is the worst defense by DVOA that the Seahawks have faced during that stretch). That kinda helps explain why the offensive production has dipped.

That doesn't sound quite right, but I'm not certain what DVOA is either

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rickythepenguin: yeah, SEA isn't the highest scoring team out there, but they don't need to be.  If Wilson can play within him self and avoid carpeting the ball (like the first play sunday), I think they have enough weapons to put points ont he board, even if it is just conservative red zone play (i.e., FGs).

There is way too much truth to this.  Wilson, Lynch, and Turbin have lost the ball more than a few times this year that have been detrimental to the cause, but, given where they are right now, not very.

Shame Us: Man. Imagine if Manning hadn't poo-poo'd Seattle. Then imagine if we had still drafted Wilson.

I have a friend who hates Manning over that.

Come on, man....get over it.

/That's coming from somebody who tends to be bitter and hold grudges.

rickythepenguin: Shame Us: Denver will be, I think the metrics/numbers bear this out, the worst defense Seattle has faced since...let's see...SF, NO, STL, AZ, NYG, SF, NO...since Minnesota in week 11. Their last 7 games have been vs. Top 13 Defenses (weirdly enough, SF is the worst defense by DVOA that the Seahawks have faced during that stretch). That kinda helps explain why the offensive production has dipped.

i haven't checked, were there any common opponents re SEA/DEN this year?  that is not terribly accurate representation but it beats nothing.  i looked at DEN's surrendered point totals a couple days ago, and yeah, they had a few 12-14 point surrendered games (as SEA had a few 12-15 points scored games) but by and large, DEN had some high point totals given up.

dunno.

I think the only ones were Jacksonville & Indianapolis. FWIW, Seattle handled them better than Denver did, though both lost to Indianapolis. Don't think it's really all that telling for this matchup, though.

The key will be whether the pass rush can get to Manning. Even of they don't get sacks, if they get hits and pressures, he'll wear down.

Shame Us: Man. Imagine if Manning hadn't poo-poo'd Seattle. Then imagine if we had still drafted Wilson.

My football fantasy:

The Seahawks have Larry Fitzgerald.

my lip balm addiction: INeedAName: Sherman's rant was somewhat classless.

Sherman himself seems to be a pretty down to earth guy.

Neither of these things make him a 'thug.'

Exactly. Everyone single one of these racist douchebag haters needs to watch this video here to see what a thug football player really is:  http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/video-cass-tech-football-player-body-sla m s-security-guard

At the end it all comes out - this is Luther Campbell's kid. You know, from 2 Live Crew? He was already in trouble for punching an opposing player and then he goes and pulls this shiat.

Sherman is loud-mouther and brash. Luther Campbell and his kid are farking thugs. Was that comparison so hard to get, you farking monkeys

Just because Luther Campbell's kid is violent, doesn't change how Sherman conducted himself.  Stop bringing other aspects of who Sherman is...look at that moment, what he said, how he conducted himself, his body language...he gave the appearance of a thug...loud, angry, aggressive body mannerisms...look, I actually think he is very smart dude, he is a great football player, but he cam across as an ass and certainly was trying to act all hard for the camera...i.e. he was acting like a thug.

rickythepenguin: Shame Us: Denver will be, I think the metrics/numbers bear this out, the worst defense Seattle has faced since...let's see...SF, NO, STL, AZ, NYG, SF, NO...since Minnesota in week 11. Their last 7 games have been vs. Top 13 Defenses (weirdly enough, SF is the worst defense by DVOA that the Seahawks have faced during that stretch). That kinda helps explain why the offensive production has dipped.

i haven't checked, were there any common opponents re SEA/DEN this year?  that is not terribly accurate representation but it beats nothing.  i looked at DEN's surrendered point totals a couple days ago, and yeah, they had a few 12-14 point surrendered games (as SEA had a few 12-15 points scored games) but by and large, DEN had some high point totals given up.

dunno.

Seahawks 45, Jags 17.  Broncos 35, Jags 19
Seahawks 23, Texans 20.  Broncos 37, Texans 13.
Seahawks 28, Colts 34.  Broncos 33, Colts 39.
Seahawks 20, Titans 13.  Broncos 51, Titans 28.
Seahawks 23, Giants 0.  Broncos 41, Giants 23.

harleyquinnical: That doesn't sound quite right, but I'm not certain what DVOA is either

DVOA measures every play based on where it is on the field, game clock, score, etc. and puts it up against the "average" leaguewide outcome in those situations. You can use it for offense, defense, special teams. Basically it measures how much better or worse you are than the average.

You can also weight it to measure how a team's performance is trending (are they getting better as the season progresses, or are the getting worse). The full explanation is at footballoutsiders.com. Seattle is #1 overall (combining Off, Def, Special teams) and Denver is #2.

The_Sponge: I have a friend who hates Manning over that.

Personally, I didn't care - didn't want him anyway (didn't think he'd be this good again). Still think Flynn would've been decent and may have been able to get us in the playoffs both years, although Wilson is better and has a higher ceiling.

Shame Us: I think the only ones were Jacksonville & Indianapolis. FWIW, Seattle handled them better than Denver did, though both lost to Indianapolis. Don't think it's really all that telling for this matchup, though.

Well, they have to have played the whole division if they each played those two. Broncos did better against the Titans/Texans, though the Texans were definitely at a different stage in their franchise's existence at that point.

Shame Us: The key will be whether the pass rush can get to Manning. Even of they don't get sacks, if they get hits and pressures, he'll wear down.

yeah but when is the last time Peyton has really taken a shot?  he has an uncanny ability to dump the ball before contact.  rare is the time he gets popped.  i kinda recall a game last year where someone got a clean shot on him and the announcers were like, "whoa, you don't see that very often!"

WhyKnot: my lip balm addiction: INeedAName: Sherman's rant was somewhat classless.

Sherman himself seems to be a pretty down to earth guy.

Neither of these things make him a 'thug.'

Exactly. Everyone single one of these racist douchebag haters needs to watch this video here to see what a thug football player really is:  http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/video-cass-tech-football-player-body-sla m s-security-guard

At the end it all comes out - this is Luther Campbell's kid. You know, from 2 Live Crew? He was already in trouble for punching an opposing player and then he goes and pulls this shiat.

Sherman is loud-mouther and brash. Luther Campbell and his kid are farking thugs. Was that comparison so hard to get, you farking monkeys

Just because Luther Campbell's kid is violent, doesn't change how Sherman conducted himself.  Stop bringing other aspects of who Sherman is...look at that moment, what he said, how he conducted himself, his body language...he gave the appearance of a thug...loud, angry, aggressive body mannerisms...look, I actually think he is very smart dude, he is a great football player, but he cam across as an ass and certainly was trying to act all hard for the camera...i.e. he was acting like a thug.

What you just described is what just about every politician, or anybody for that matter, does when they are delivering a fiery speech.

harleyquinnical: That doesn't sound quite right, but I'm not certain what DVOA is either

Go look up Football Outsiders.  Study.

It will all make sense.

whizbangthedirtfarmer: rickythepenguin: Shame Us: Denver will be, I think the metrics/numbers bear this out, the worst defense Seattle has faced since...let's see...SF, NO, STL, AZ, NYG, SF, NO...since Minnesota in week 11. Their last 7 games have been vs. Top 13 Defenses (weirdly enough, SF is the worst defense by DVOA that the Seahawks have faced during that stretch). That kinda helps explain why the offensive production has dipped.

i haven't checked, were there any common opponents re SEA/DEN this year?  that is not terribly accurate representation but it beats nothing.  i looked at DEN's surrendered point totals a couple days ago, and yeah, they had a few 12-14 point surrendered games (as SEA had a few 12-15 points scored games) but by and large, DEN had some high point totals given up.

dunno.

Seahawks 45, Jags 17.  Broncos 35, Jags 19
Seahawks 23, Texans 20.  Broncos 37, Texans 13.
Seahawks 28, Colts 34.  Broncos 33, Colts 39.
Seahawks 20, Titans 13.  Broncos 51, Titans 28.
Seahawks 23, Giants 0.  Broncos 41, Giants 23.

Wow - there were more than I thought.

The way I look at that, they both get 2 points and then a draw for the Indy games.

rickythepenguin: Shame Us: The key will be whether the pass rush can get to Manning. Even of they don't get sacks, if they get hits and pressures, he'll wear down.

yeah but when is the last time Peyton has really taken a shot?  he has an uncanny ability to dump the ball before contact.  rare is the time he gets popped.  i kinda recall a game last year where someone got a clean shot on him and the announcers were like, "whoa, you don't see that very often!"

Mathis popped him and forced a fumble in the indianapolis game and it took Peyton about a quarter to snap back.

rickythepenguin: Shame Us: The key will be whether the pass rush can get to Manning. Even of they don't get sacks, if they get hits and pressures, he'll wear down.

yeah but when is the last time Peyton has really taken a shot?  he has an uncanny ability to dump the ball before contact.  rare is the time he gets popped.  i kinda recall a game last year where someone got a clean shot on him and the announcers were like, "whoa, you don't see that very often!"

And when Peyton does feel the heat, he chucks it and does a little twirl.  Sometimes he falls over while he does it.  The legend is true: he is deathly afraid of contact.  The issues is getting to him.

rickythepenguin: Shame Us: The key will be whether the pass rush can get to Manning. Even of they don't get sacks, if they get hits and pressures, he'll wear down.

yeah but when is the last time Peyton has really taken a shot?  he has an uncanny ability to dump the ball before contact.  rare is the time he gets popped.  i kinda recall a game last year where someone got a clean shot on him and the announcers were like, "whoa, you don't see that very often!"

Denver's offensive line is spectacularly good.  Combine that with Manning's quick release and I don't expect to see him getting hit a lot.  I do expect to see him throwing the ball away a bunch as his immobility means he has to throw it somewhere, and coverage is going to be really tight as they know he can't run.

I'll take him tossing it into the stands as a win every time.

Rent Party: rickythepenguin: Shame Us: The key will be whether the pass rush can get to Manning. Even of they don't get sacks, if they get hits and pressures, he'll wear down.

yeah but when is the last time Peyton has really taken a shot?  he has an uncanny ability to dump the ball before contact.  rare is the time he gets popped.  i kinda recall a game last year where someone got a clean shot on him and the announcers were like, "whoa, you don't see that very often!"

Denver's offensive line is spectacularly good.  Combine that with Manning's quick release and I don't expect to see him getting hit a lot.  I do expect to see him throwing the ball away a bunch as his immobility means he has to throw it somewhere, and coverage is going to be really tight as they know he can't run.

I'll take him tossing it into the stands as a win every time.

He's also going to have to be careful on those quick shots. The way Seattle mixes coverages and the rangy closing speed and length of the DBs can turn a small window into an interception/tipped ball awfully quick.

rickythepenguin: It's gotten to the point that the Richard Sherman "outburst" has already been dissected more times than the Zapruder film

It's getting to the point
Where I'm no thug anymore
Elll ohhh beeeee-eeeee
Sometimes it hurts
So badly I must cry out loud
Erin, I am sorrrry

I ain't yours, it is mine, you are mediocre
The Super Bowl
Yo Crab, remember what you and done and said about the greatest
biatch, I have no mercy
Go check the scoreboard and see what you don't have now
(I am not dreaming)
I ain't yours, it is mine, you are mediocre

Super Bowl Sunday
Please be gone I'm tired of you
We own the NFC

Russel Wilson's pump fake
NaVorro's busted ass leg
How can you catch the Seahawk?

harleyquinnical: Bunny Deville: mikaloyd: Bunny Deville: YOU'RE ALL MAKING BABY JESUS CRY

NOW STAHP

YOU ARE NOT THE BABY JESUS BUNNY! PEYTON MANNING IS! WE ALL KNOW IT!

They won't stop, mika. They won't STOP. Make them STOP. 1000 posts about Sherman in the last few days. There are other things to talk about than someone who got excited and said some shiat! Jesus H. Piebald Christ in a jumped up Chevy, if I had this amount of discussion for every time I made a social faux pas, well, I'd be a well and thouroughly discussed individual...

MAKE IT STAAAAAAAAAHP

[Music by Tom Petty; new Lyrics to 'To Be Me']

Marshawn ran the ball all day
The Hawks wanted to put the game away
Kaepernick threw the best he could
And Crabtree was in the neighborhood

The man had been ignored all game
But now everyone will know his name
Sports writers just won't let it die
As Sherman helps the Seahawks fly

Andrews got to the point
And his answer was out of joint
Analysts would replay
The sound bytes all day

This must be how it feels
This must be how it feels
To be Di

rickythepenguin: Shame Us: The key will be whether the pass rush can get to Manning. Even of they don't get sacks, if they get hits and pressures, he'll wear down.

yeah but when is the last time Peyton has really taken a shot?  he has an uncanny ability to dump the ball before contact.  rare is the time he gets popped.  i kinda recall a game last year where someone got a clean shot on him and the announcers were like, "whoa, you don't see that very often!"

He got popped in the preseason game against the Seahawks, IIRC.

IAmRight: And block. But all they do is make big plays and block happily. It's like a team full of Hines Wards.

I can't believe how much shiat hines ward used to take around here. That dude was the football players football player.

JohnBigBootay: IAmRight: And block. But all they do is make big plays and block happily. It's like a team full of Hines Wards.

I can't believe how much shiat hines ward used to take around here. That dude was the football players football player.

And back then (yes, WAAAAAAAY back then) the rules as far as hard contact and peel back blocks were different. Ward was a tough mofo.

Hell, Carroll even managed to turn Sidney Rice into a halfway decent blocker.

Shame Us: And back then (yes, WAAAAAAAY back then) the rules as far as hard contact and peel back blocks were different. Ward was a tough mofo.

For me that's just how it ought to be done. So many prima donna WR's just won't deign to block, let alone put forth the effort to be worth a shiat at it. Seems like such a waste.

TwoBeersOneCan: Bane of Broone: TwoBeersOneCan: PluckYew: Who is going to be the 1st Seahawk fan to rage quit Fark because of all the negative Seahawk/Sherman greens?

That already happened with a Cowboys fan during the epic tidal wave of December Cowboys threads.

That was glorious.

It was certainly something to witness, but I'll miss the trivia in the power rankings threads.  Maybe someone will pick up the slack next season.

WhyKnot: my lip balm addiction: INeedAName: Sherman's rant was somewhat classless.

Sherman himself seems to be a pretty down to earth guy.

Neither of these things make him a 'thug.'

Exactly. Everyone single one of these racist douchebag haters needs to watch this video here to see what a thug football player really is:  http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/video-cass-tech-football-player-body-sla m s-security-guard

At the end it all comes out - this is Luther Campbell's kid. You know, from 2 Live Crew? He was already in trouble for punching an opposing player and then he goes and pulls this shiat.

Sherman is loud-mouthed and brash. Luther Campbell and his kid are farking thugs. Was that comparison so hard to get, you farking monkeys

Just because Luther Campbell's kid is violent, doesn't change how Sherman conducted himself.  Stop bringing other aspects of who Sherman is...look at that moment, what he said, how he conducted himself, his body language...he gave the appearance of a thug...loud, angry, aggressive body mannerisms...look, I actually think he is very smart dude, he is a great football player, but he cam across as an ass and certainly was trying to act all hard for the camera...i.e. he was acting like a thug.

Acting and being are 2 different things. THAT was my point.

The one thing I have told everyone though is, come on. It's Richard Sherman. He is the 'last' person I would have stuck a mic in front of at that moment. Fox farked up and I absolutely believe they share in the blame for such exceedingly poor judgment.

my lip balm addiction: The one thing I have told everyone though is, come on. It's Richard Sherman. He is the 'last' person I would have stuck a mic in front of at that moment. Fox farked up and I absolutely believe they share in the blame for such exceedingly poor judgment.

He is the exact person they were going to stick a mic in front of. Fox wanted that. The fact that the producer pussed out and ended the interview is ridiculous. The only reason to fish around on the field right after the game is to try to get a "raw" reaction from players. They got one and ran screaming.

my lip balm addiction: WhyKnot: my lip balm addiction: INeedAName: Sherman's rant was somewhat classless.

Sherman himself seems to be a pretty down to earth guy.

Neither of these things make him a 'thug.'

Exactly. Everyone single one of these racist douchebag haters needs to watch this video here to see what a thug football player really is:  http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/video-cass-tech-football-player-body-sla m s-security-guard

At the end it all comes out - this is Luther Campbell's kid. You know, from 2 Live Crew? He was already in trouble for punching an opposing player and then he goes and pulls this shiat.

Sherman is loud-mouthed and brash. Luther Campbell and his kid are farking thugs. Was that comparison so hard to get, you farking monkeys

Just because Luther Campbell's kid is violent, doesn't change how Sherman conducted himself.  Stop bringing other aspects of who Sherman is...look at that moment, what he said, how he conducted himself, his body language...he gave the appearance of a thug...loud, angry, aggressive body mannerisms...look, I actually think he is very smart dude, he is a great football player, but he cam across as an ass and certainly was trying to act all hard for the camera...i.e. he was acting like a thug.

Acting and being are 2 different things. THAT was my point.

The one thing I have told everyone though is, come on. It's Richard Sherman. He is the 'last' person I would have stuck a mic in front of at that moment. Fox farked up and I absolutely believe they share in the blame for such exceedingly poor judgment.

How did they fark up? That moment has been the most talked about thing in sports news since it happened and it has given every sports writer something to add to the Super Bowl hype without having to try to manufacture a story. It seems the only people that think negatively about it are racist and prudes who think that anything more than handing the ball to the officials and walking to the sideline after scoring a touchdown is showboating.

Shame Us: my lip balm addiction: The one thing I have told everyone though is, come on. It's Richard Sherman. He is the 'last' person I would have stuck a mic in front of at that moment. Fox farked up and I absolutely believe they share in the blame for such exceedingly poor judgment.

He is the exact person they were going to stick a mic in front of. Fox wanted that. The fact that the producer pussed out and ended the interview is ridiculous. The only reason to fish around on the field right after the game is to try to get a "raw" reaction from players. They got one and ran screaming.

The fact that he is the guy they wanted shows poor judgment IMO. But whatever. It has been awesome all season to watch the games online. I can hear the explosions of the fireworks outside my window usually about 10 seconds before the play shows on my computer, so I always turn it up and know when the TD is coming. When Lynch got that 40 yarder, I was like WTF? There was gonna HAVE to be something amazing lol.

Thesis: Richard Sherman (arguably slightly overenthusiastic) is to Marshawn Lynch (fined \$50K for not speaking to the press, although the fine was later rescinded) as Mama Cass (too much sandwich) is to Karen Carpenter (not enough sandwich). Discuss.

my lip balm addiction: The fact that he is the guy they wanted shows poor judgment IMO.

What poor judgment? It's worked out well for everyone but the people that like to clutch their pearls about everything. The only thing that didn't work is that Fox cut the interview before he could start going with the normal team-praising stuff.

ongbok: my lip balm addiction: WhyKnot: my lip balm addiction: INeedAName: Sherman's rant was somewhat classless.

Sherman himself seems to be a pretty down to earth guy.

Neither of these things make him a 'thug.'

Exactly. Everyone single one of these racist douchebag haters needs to watch this video here to see what a thug football player really is:  http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/video-cass-tech-football-player-body-sla m s-security-guard

At the end it all comes out - this is Luther Campbell's kid. You know, from 2 Live Crew? He was already in trouble for punching an opposing player and then he goes and pulls this shiat.

Sherman is loud-mouthed and brash. Luther Campbell and his kid are farking thugs. Was that comparison so hard to get, you farking monkeys

Just because Luther Campbell's kid is violent, doesn't change how Sherman conducted himself.  Stop bringing other aspects of who Sherman is...look at that moment, what he said, how he conducted himself, his body language...he gave the appearance of a thug...loud, angry, aggressive body mannerisms...look, I actually think he is very smart dude, he is a great football player, but he cam across as an ass and certainly was trying to act all hard for the camera...i.e. he was acting like a thug.

Acting and being are 2 different things. THAT was my point.

The one thing I have told everyone though is, come on. It's Richard Sherman. He is the 'last' person I would have stuck a mic in front of at that moment. Fox farked up and I absolutely believe they share in the blame for such exceedingly poor judgment.

How did they fark up? That moment has been the most talked about thing in sports news since it happened and it has given every sports writer something to add to the Super Bowl hype without having to try to manufacture a story. It seems the only people that think negatively about it are racist and prudes who think that anything more than handing the ball to the officials and walking to the sideline after scoring a touchdow ...

Not a racist or a prude. I would have gone and tried to get Lynch to talk to him about his TD long before talking to Sherman. But hey, that's me. I love Richard Sherman - dude is hella smart, and very articulate away from the field. But on the field he is a maniac - not exactly who I want to hear from at that moment. Ten minutes later he is articulate and calm again - that was the time to interview him.

But yea - it certainly has been spoken about for what - 5 days now including Sunday? Can't wait til next week so we got some new quotes to talk about - and then the 2nd is gonna be one great game.

IAmRight: my lip balm addiction: The fact that he is the guy they wanted shows poor judgment IMO.

What poor judgment? It's worked out well for everyone but the people that like to clutch their pearls about everything. The only thing that didn't work is that Fox cut the interview before he could start going with the normal team-praising stuff.

You always come off as such a douche.

I just hate that he took away from the teams moment - THAT is why I wouldn't stick a mic in his face. Look at my other responses above - 10 minutes later when he was on the dais is when I want to hear his take. But hey - that's me. You can have your opinion but stop with the name-calling and innuendo just because I have different take on things, 'k?

Shame Us: DVOA measures every play based on where it is on the field, game clock, score, etc. and puts it up against the "average" leaguewide outcome in those situations. You can use it for offense, defense, special teams. Basically it measures how much better or worse you are than the average.

So it's the same method meteorologists and oceanographers use when they say a year is El nino or La nina.

As for Manning, Bryant and Clemons are going to make his life a little more difficult.  Irvin will have the option to spy Manning or blitz him if he can make it through the protection.  Depending on the range of the pass, he'll find a soft spot in the zone, or just throw an accurate ball so the defender doesn't have a chance as he's prone to do.  Either this or some Denver receiver is going to get seriously farked up the moment he catches the ball.

Nana's Vibrator: Still haven't topped Ron Artest, Sherman.  If you don't knock out a Broncos fan next week, no one will respect you.

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Ironically, that .gif pretty much sums up World Peace these days.

my lip balm addiction: ongbok: my lip balm addiction: WhyKnot: my lip balm addiction: INeedAName: Sherman's rant was somewhat classless.

Sherman himself seems to be a pretty down to earth guy.

Neither of these things make him a 'thug.'

Exactly. Everyone single one of these racist douchebag haters needs to watch this video here to see what a thug football player really is:  http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/video-cass-tech-football-player-body-sla m s-security-guard

At the end it all comes out - this is Luther Campbell's kid. You know, from 2 Live Crew? He was already in trouble for punching an opposing player and then he goes and pulls this shiat.

Sherman is loud-mouthed and brash. Luther Campbell and his kid are farking thugs. Was that comparison so hard to get, you farking monkeys

Just because Luther Campbell's kid is violent, doesn't change how Sherman conducted himself.  Stop bringing other aspects of who Sherman is...look at that moment, what he said, how he conducted himself, his body language...he gave the appearance of a thug...loud, angry, aggressive body mannerisms...look, I actually think he is very smart dude, he is a great football player, but he cam across as an ass and certainly was trying to act all h