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(Washington Post)   New study shows that the Millennials' whole "Oh, woe is us, we can't find jobs as easily as our parents" line isn't really worth a trophy. Maybe a certificate for trying? OK, OK, you can have a pin, too   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 202
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2014-01-23 10:32:31 AM  
The generations behind me and infront of me suck. Except for my grandparents who were the greatest.

Just had an ultrasound of my soon to be kid. It looks lazy. It's probably it's generation.
 
2014-01-23 10:34:53 AM  

b2theory: The generations behind me and infront of me suck. Except for my grandparents who were the greatest.

Just had an ultrasound of my soon to be kid. It looks lazy. It's probably it's generation.


And it'll blame you
 
2014-01-23 11:05:49 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: b2theory: The generations behind me and infront of me suck. Except for my grandparents who were the greatest.

Just had an ultrasound of my soon to be kid. It looks lazy. It's probably it's generation.

And it'll blame you


It already does.
 
2014-01-23 11:10:07 AM  
It's not even worth a pizza.  OK, maybe a pizza trophy.
 
2014-01-23 11:53:08 AM  
Yay! I got a ribbon.
 
2014-01-23 11:53:33 AM  
Hooray! Another "Millennials" thread.  These are always exciting.
 
2014-01-23 11:55:16 AM  
It's not that they can't find a job as  easily as their parents', it's that they can't find a job as  easy as their parents, which was likely earned through years of busting butt for 25 years.
 
2014-01-23 11:55:34 AM  
"Young people have no respect" Socrates (paraphrased)
 
2014-01-23 11:55:55 AM  

Anayalator: It's not that they can't find a job as  easily as their parents', it's that they can't find a job as  easy as their parents, which was likely earned through years of busting butt for 25 years.


I said 'years' too many times.
 
2014-01-23 11:56:03 AM  
The authors looked at records for parents at a set age and for their children once they reached adulthood. For the most recent generation of children, many of whom have not yet started working, they measured college attendance, which correlates with higher earnings.

That might be a wee bit of a confound.
 
2014-01-23 11:56:19 AM  
I've got a PhD in chemistry with experience  and I've been outta work for a year, so yeah, the market kinda sucks right now.

/Hundreds of applications
//Numerous interviews
///If you say "Oh, you're doing x wrong" or, "How 'bout you try y" I'll punch you in the face.
 
2014-01-23 11:56:43 AM  

Tannhauser: "Young people have no respect" Socrates (paraphrased)


www.masterpiecepumpkins.com
 
2014-01-23 11:56:53 AM  

b2theory: The generations behind me and infront of me suck. Except for my grandparents who were the greatest.

Just had an ultrasound of my soon to be kid. It looks lazy. It's probably it's generation.


Has it at least STARTED to look for a job?  Work isn't going to come looking if it is still curled up in the womb like that no good Johnson boy.
 
2014-01-23 11:57:51 AM  
I was a student assistant in the very early '90s when they started giving out awards and recognition certificates to everyone for anything.

I distinctly recall saying to a co-worker, "this will not end well".
 
2014-01-23 11:59:14 AM  

Gyro the Greek Sandwich Pirate: The authors looked at records for parents at a set age and for their children once they reached adulthood. For the most recent generation of children, many of whom have not yet started working, they measured college attendance, which correlates with higher earnings.

That might be a wee bit of a confound.


wtf
 
2014-01-23 12:00:24 PM  
I'm sick and tired of my long-retired Yooper father-in-law ranting on and on about how the unemployed are less than human because they are lazy.

He was hired at a GM plant back in the late forties when he simply showed up one day and knocked on the door and asked for a job. Of course stayed there for 35 years before retiring. He refuses to hear that people need to be constantly searching for work because tomorrow you could be laid off and you need to be prepared.
 
2014-01-23 12:00:40 PM  

Reverend J: I've got a PhD in chemistry with experience  and I've been outta work for a year, so yeah, the market kinda sucks right now.


I spent five years in chemistry PhD program and got shiatcanned with no degree, so I feel your pain and then some.  Sessional teaching isn't nearly as fulfilling as I thought it would be.

/Hundreds of applications
//Numerous interviews
///If you say "Oh, you're doing x wrong" or, "How 'bout you try y" I'll punch you in the throw acid in your face.


FTFChemists
 
2014-01-23 12:00:52 PM  
I'd thought the problem wasn't in finding a job but that Millennials felt they should be working 30 hours a week and making six figures after graduating college?
 
2014-01-23 12:01:02 PM  

b2theory: MaudlinMutantMollusk: b2theory: The generations behind me and infront of me suck. Except for my grandparents who were the greatest.

Just had an ultrasound of my soon to be kid. It looks lazy. It's probably it's generation.

And it'll blame you

It already does.


You see, my dad used to beat the hell out of me when I was a fetus and I'm better off for it. Taught me respect.

Wait a minute.....


Maybe he wasn't beating me.....

Maybe he just farked my mom a lot and it just SEEMED like he was beating me...

THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
 
2014-01-23 12:01:26 PM  

Reverend J: I've got a PhD in chemistry with experience  and I've been outta work for a year, so yeah, the market kinda sucks right now.

/Hundreds of applications
//Numerous interviews
///If you say "Oh, you're doing x wrong" or, "How 'bout you try y" I'll punch you in the face.


Have you looked into w?
 
2014-01-23 12:01:42 PM  
What I learned from the graphic:

There's a "Deaf Smith" county in Texas. Who knew?
 
2014-01-23 12:02:51 PM  
See, younger people went to college, let's ignore whether they got jobs afterwards, the exact charge they level.
 
2014-01-23 12:03:27 PM  
No subby, it doesn't say that at all, in fact it doesn't come close to addressing that subject.The study says economic mobility is the same as ever, just that, you know, being at the bottom sucks a whole lot more than it did 50 years ago. And it uses college attendance rates as a stand in for real data on jobs for the current generation, since so many of them haven't yet entered the workforce yet (read: can't find jobs).

Subby can't read, but hey, this is fark. Any resemblance the headline bears to the article is purely coincidental.
 
2014-01-23 12:03:36 PM  

The Bunyip: I'd thought the problem wasn't in finding a job but that Millennials felt they should be working 30 hours a week and making six figures after graduating college?


Yeah, no one thinks that.
 
2014-01-23 12:04:45 PM  

Reverend J: I've got a PhD in chemistry with experience  and I've been outta work for a year, so yeah, the market kinda sucks right now.

/Hundreds of applications
//Numerous interviews
///If you say "Oh, you're doing x wrong" or, "How 'bout you try y" I'll punch you in the face.


Have you tried sticking your dick in a blender?
 
2014-01-23 12:05:25 PM  
As long as the Job Creators have more profits, all is well.

They haven't quite thought about what to do when their customers are all broke for lack of respectable paying jobs, and as long as the government is backing them up with unemployment relief for the consumer class, it hasn't come up.

But it will.
 
2014-01-23 12:06:01 PM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: I'm sick and tired of my long-retired Yooper father-in-law ranting on and on about how the unemployed are less than human because they are lazy.

He was hired at a GM plant back in the late forties when he simply showed up one day and knocked on the door and asked for a job. Of course stayed there for 35 years before retiring. He refuses to hear that people need to be constantly searching for work because tomorrow you could be laid off and you need to be prepared.


Not if you get a sweet, sweet government union job, then they never fire you. Have you people who are out of work tried the Post Office?
 
2014-01-23 12:06:02 PM  

The Bunyip: I'd thought the problem wasn't in finding a job but that Millennials felt they should be working 30 hours a week and making six figures after graduating college?


I've love to have a job that paid me to be here for 30 hours a week.  I might actually have some excess income to put into savings like a proper adult.
 
2014-01-23 12:06:06 PM  
Economic mobility isn't the same thing as being unable to find a job as easily as their parents did.
 
2014-01-23 12:06:33 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-01-23 12:06:43 PM  

Ghastly: b2theory: MaudlinMutantMollusk: b2theory: The generations behind me and infront of me suck. Except for my grandparents who were the greatest.

Just had an ultrasound of my soon to be kid. It looks lazy. It's probably it's generation.

And it'll blame you

It already does.

You see, my dad used to beat the hell out of me when I was a fetus and I'm better off for it. Taught me respect.

Wait a minute.....


Maybe he wasn't beating me.....

Maybe he just farked my mom a lot and it just SEEMED like he was beating me...

THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!


It does explain why you like a cock shoved in your face.
 
2014-01-23 12:06:51 PM  

joaquin closet: What I learned from the graphic:

There's a "Deaf Smith" county in Texas. Who knew?


Even stranger, he was a real person (tracker/scout for Sam Houston).
 
2014-01-23 12:06:54 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: Reverend J: I've got a PhD in chemistry with experience  and I've been outta work for a year, so yeah, the market kinda sucks right now.

/Hundreds of applications
//Numerous interviews
///If you say "Oh, you're doing x wrong" or, "How 'bout you try y" I'll punch you in the face.

Have you tried sticking your dick in a blender?


Instructions unclear, blender stuck in dick.
 
2014-01-23 12:07:15 PM  

Reverend J: I've got a PhD in chemistry with experience  and I've been outta work for a year, so yeah, the market kinda sucks right now.

/Hundreds of applications
//Numerous interviews
///If you say "Oh, you're doing x wrong" or, "How 'bout you try y" I'll punch you in the face.


www.almostseenon.com
 
2014-01-23 12:07:36 PM  
That's not what the study says.
 
2014-01-23 12:07:47 PM  

Reverend J: I've got a PhD in chemistry with experience  and I've been outta work for a year, so yeah, the market kinda sucks right now.

/Hundreds of applications
//Numerous interviews
///If you say "Oh, you're doing x wrong" or, "How 'bout you try y" I'll punch you in the face.


My dad got his PhD in chemistry in 1980, then spent a year looking for work. IIRC, he claimed he applied to 102 jobs, and got 104 rejection letters.

And then he worked for Exxon for 20 years - even offered to help clean up Hazelwood's Hazy Happenstance, but apparently they needed bookish chemists in NJ, not in AK.
 
2014-01-23 12:08:04 PM  

VvonderJesus: Reverend J: I've got a PhD in chemistry with experience  and I've been outta work for a year, so yeah, the market kinda sucks right now.

/Hundreds of applications
//Numerous interviews
///If you say "Oh, you're doing x wrong" or, "How 'bout you try y" I'll punch you in the face.

Have you looked into w?


No, everybody knows that what you gotta do is v.
 
2014-01-23 12:08:25 PM  
Really, the thread title shouldn't involve "Millennials", it should involve "Children raised by Baby Boomers". 

People of my generation were, by and large, told that they should "follow their dreams" and do whatever they wanted. That was reinforced by constantly being told they were special. No one bothered to tell them that there's jack shiat in the way of employment when you have a hospitality services/journalism/graphic design/etc. degree.

I wanted to be a history major at one point, which would have possibly lead to law or something like that. My dad, who paid for my undergrad (he had been saving since before I was born), sat me down at one point and told me that he had wanted to be a lawyer as well, but realized that it would be more beneficial to get a degree in a field where I could more or less immediately get a job afterwards. Law was not one of them, since I would have to go to law school after my undergrad.

I'm fortunate to have a dad who is willing to step up to the plate and be a dad; that is, be the guy who looks out for his kid and briefs him on the reality of the situation he's in. Not a lot of people I go to school with have that guy.
 
2014-01-23 12:09:30 PM  
FTA: "Because there's so much inequality, people born near the bottom tend to stay near the bottom, and that's much more consequential than it was 50 years ago. "

Subby, you's a trollin'.
 
2014-01-23 12:10:51 PM  

Anayalator: Anayalator: It's not that they can't find a job as  easily as their parents', it's that they can't find a job as  easy as their parents, which was likely earned through years of busting butt for 25 years.

I said 'years' too many times.


Your post makes absolutely no sense regardless of the number of occurrences of "years" . I tried removing the first "years", then the second, then both. I also tried adding "years" in various places. Nothing works.
 
2014-01-23 12:11:40 PM  
Can't find a job? BOOTSTRAPS!

Still can't find a job?

LAZY.
 
2014-01-23 12:11:56 PM  

Reverend J: I've got a PhD in chemistry with experience  and I've been outta work for a year, so yeah, the market kinda sucks right now.

/Hundreds of applications
//Numerous interviews
///If you say "Oh, you're doing x wrong" or, "How 'bout you try y" I'll punch you in the face.


Is it safe to suggest "z"?
blog.wordnik.com
 
2014-01-23 12:11:59 PM  

Odd Bird: Reverend J: I've got a PhD in chemistry with experience  and I've been outta work for a year, so yeah, the market kinda sucks right now.

/Hundreds of applications
//Numerous interviews
///If you say "Oh, you're doing x wrong" or, "How 'bout you try y" I'll punch you in the face.

[www.almostseenon.com image 250x250]


That suggestion has been made on several occasions, and there are days I'm tempted.
 
2014-01-23 12:12:03 PM  

Gyro the Greek Sandwich Pirate: The authors looked at records for parents at a set age and for their children once they reached adulthood. For the most recent generation of children, many of whom have not yet started working, they measured college attendance, which correlates with higher earnings.

That might be a wee bit of a confound.


Came here to quote this exact passage.  Yes.  The same percentage of kids are still going to college.  However, because of inflated tuition costs they are leaving college with crushing loan debt that the Boomers/early Gen Xers didn't have. On top of that, they are making less money for more hours, assuming they can get work that exploits their education in the first place.

College attendance correlating to higher earnings than a HS diploma doesn't mitigate the fact that the middle class is shrinking, real earnings continue to drop for 85% of us, and debt has become much harder to escape from.  I know for a fact that things were easier economically for my cohort than for the Millenials because I was alive to see it.
 
2014-01-23 12:12:37 PM  

ikanreed: The Bunyip: I'd thought the problem wasn't in finding a job but that Millennials felt they should be working 30 hours a week and making six figures after graduating college?

Yeah, no one thinks that.


Yes, but it's so much easier to beat on a strawman than to realize that if the kids failed, it's cause the parents taught em wrong.
 
2014-01-23 12:13:36 PM  

Z-clipped: I know for a fact that things were easier economically for my cohort than for the Millenials because I was alive to see it.


I just want to add things weren't hard for all of us millipedes, because it's a statistical problem, rather than a discrete one.
 
2014-01-23 12:13:51 PM  

Bondith: Reverend J: I've got a PhD in chemistry with experience  and I've been outta work for a year, so yeah, the market kinda sucks right now.

I spent five years in chemistry PhD program and got shiatcanned with no degree, so I feel your pain and then some.  Sessional teaching isn't nearly as fulfilling as I thought it would be.

/Hundreds of applications
//Numerous interviews
///If you say "Oh, you're doing x wrong" or, "How 'bout you try y" I'll punch you in the throw acid in your face.

FTFChemists


Also FTF"Friends"  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25867695 (warning nasty images of what throwing acid in your face results in)
 
2014-01-23 12:14:08 PM  

netgamer7k: Can't find a job? BOOTSTRAPS!

Still can't find a job?

LAZY.


See?  You guys do catch on after a while.
 
2014-01-23 12:14:32 PM  
The problem with kids today is they think it's beneath them get a college degree or two and then work two part time jobs at places like Walmart and McDonald's. It makes them sad and depressed, they feel like their life is being wasted and they're just another replaceable cog in a giant machine pumping out garbage. Why would they feel like that?
 
2014-01-23 12:16:01 PM  

Ishidan: ikanreed: The Bunyip: I'd thought the problem wasn't in finding a job but that Millennials felt they should be working 30 hours a week and making six figures after graduating college?

Yeah, no one thinks that.

Yes, but it's so much easier to beat on a strawman than to realize that if the kids failed, it's cause the parents taught em wrong.


fark that.  There's not anything wrong with my generation in terms of the people themselves.  We've got some dangerously manipulative shiat going on in our economy and it has very little to do with individuals and a lot to do with policy.
 
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