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(ABC)   VAG office declares gay marriage ban unconstitutional. They're probably tired of taking a pounding over it   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 104
    More: Interesting, Due Process Clause, gay marriage ban, inauguration day, American Foundation for Equal Rights  
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2014-01-23 08:13:25 AM  
O_o
 
2014-01-23 08:33:37 AM  
How's the customer service at the VAG office?
 
2014-01-23 08:47:14 AM  

flucto: How's the customer service at the VAG office?


Generally excellent, but spotty a few days each month.

/so very sorry
 
2014-01-23 08:47:37 AM  

flucto: How's the customer service at the VAG office?


All wet.

/ a little smelly, too.
 
2014-01-23 08:49:40 AM  
Do I get to marry a turtle yet?
 
2014-01-23 08:50:32 AM  
Obvious, once you get a sane attorney general.
 
2014-01-23 08:51:06 AM  
all we need now is legal weed and VA will be totes amazeballs.
 
2014-01-23 08:51:50 AM  

Bareefer Obonghit: Do I get to marry a turtle yet?


Only if its a gay turtle.
 
2014-01-23 08:52:52 AM  

Doktor_Zhivago: Only if its a gay turtle.


How can you tell?
 
2014-01-23 08:52:58 AM  

flucto: How's the customer service at the VAG office?


[insert relevant Your Mom joke here]
 
2014-01-23 08:52:58 AM  
Don't be fatuous, subby.
 
2014-01-23 08:53:12 AM  
Of all states that should know about marriage equality laws, Virginia should learn from its past.
 
2014-01-23 08:53:41 AM  

mutterfark: Generally excellent, but spotty a few days each month.


Well it's a bloody hard job.
 
2014-01-23 08:55:00 AM  
The Cooch must be stewing.
 
2014-01-23 08:55:03 AM  

Biff_Steel: Doktor_Zhivago: Only if its a gay turtle.

How can you tell?


The top and bottom shells don't quite line up straight
 
2014-01-23 08:55:53 AM  

flucto: How's the customer service at the VAG office?


They used to be a little hairy, but they made some cuts and it's a lot smoother now.
 
2014-01-23 08:56:13 AM  
It is not the first time an attorney general has decided to stop defending their state's gay marriage ban. In Pennsylvania, Attorney General Kathleen Kane said last year that she would stop defending that state's gay marriage ban, also calling it unconstitutional. An outside law firm was hired to represent the state in a lawsuit over the ban.

That case goes to trial in June and should be decided soon thereafter. I have little doubt which way it will go. And, even without Va. that would put just over half the US population in states with marriage equality.

And then in November, we can kick that douche Corbett out on his ass.
 
2014-01-23 08:56:51 AM  
Virginia is for fabulous lovers?
 
2014-01-23 08:57:24 AM  

stpauler: Of all states that should know about marriage equality laws, Virginia should learn from its past.


Having lived here my entire life, I can tell you that this state has a pathological and all-but-institutionalized imperative not to learn from the past but to return to the past. Everything here is named for a figure in the Civil War; there are a billion Lee Highways, and "Mosby" might as well be stamped on every other road and building.  For Christ's sake, the Friday before MLK Day is counter-programmed with Lee-Jackson Day.
 
2014-01-23 08:57:40 AM  

Biff_Steel: Doktor_Zhivago: Only if its a gay turtle.

How can you tell?


Because it'll be fabulous of course.
 
2014-01-23 08:57:53 AM  
Here's one Virginian who is very glad to see proof that my vote is making a difference.
 
2014-01-23 08:58:05 AM  
I bet gay couples will snatch this opportunity.
 
2014-01-23 08:58:31 AM  

Wyalt Derp: Don't be fatuous, subby.


pussy
 
2014-01-23 08:58:33 AM  
FTA: But the conservative Family Foundation of Virginia called the development "disappointing and frightening."

No shiat.

Also, further proof that most organizations that have the word 'family' in their title are evil.
 
2014-01-23 08:59:25 AM  

mutterfark: flucto: How's the customer service at the VAG office?

Generally excellent, but spotty a few days each month.

/so very sorry


flucto: mutterfark: Generally excellent, but spotty a few days each month.

Well it's a bloody hard job.


WI241TH: flucto: How's the customer service at the VAG office?

They used to be a little hairy, but they made some cuts and it's a lot smoother now.


+1 for all of yous

have some internet
 
2014-01-23 08:59:51 AM  
Two more agenda items should be re-establishing the prohibition against discriminating on the basis of sexual orientation AND prohibiting adoption agencies from considering sexual orientation in placements.
 
2014-01-23 08:59:56 AM  

Biff_Steel: Doktor_Zhivago: Only if its a gay turtle.

How can you tell?


They prefer arugula to iceberg lettuce.
 
2014-01-23 09:02:33 AM  

Biff_Steel: Doktor_Zhivago: Only if its a gay turtle.

How can you tell?



If he watches Girls ...
 
2014-01-23 09:03:18 AM  

Satan's Bunny Slippers: mutterfark: flucto: How's the customer service at the VAG office?

Generally excellent, but spotty a few days each month.

/so very sorry

flucto: mutterfark: Generally excellent, but spotty a few days each month.

Well it's a bloody hard job.

WI241TH: flucto: How's the customer service at the VAG office?

They used to be a little hairy, but they made some cuts and it's a lot smoother now.

+1 for all of yous

have some internet


10/10. I lawled.
 
2014-01-23 09:08:50 AM  

flucto: How's the customer service at the VAG office?



Pretty good, for pubic servants.
 
2014-01-23 09:09:55 AM  

mutterfark: flucto: How's the customer service at the VAG office?

Generally excellent, but spotty a few days each month.

/so very sorry


Taint it the truth!
 
2014-01-23 09:09:58 AM  

vudukungfu: O_o


(i)_(i)
 
2014-01-23 09:10:49 AM  
It is not the first time an attorney general has decided to stop defending their state's gay marriage ban. In Pennsylvania, Attorney General Kathleen Kane said last year that she would stop defending that state's gay marriage ban, also calling it unconstitutional. An outside law firm was hired to represent the state in a lawsuit over the ban.

Seems a shame they can't just have the attorney general represent the state in that sort of case. I suppose it would basically mean them going into court just saying that the state is in the wrong, so this makes me more confused by the government's system since I have to wonder who really makes the phone call to the law firm to ask them to represent them in a case that their own state's people say is supposed to lose.
 
2014-01-23 09:15:05 AM  

mutterfark: flucto: How's the customer service at the VAG office?

Generally excellent, but spotty a few days each month.

/so very sorry


*swish*
 
2014-01-23 09:15:31 AM  

stpauler: Of all states that should know about marriage equality laws, Virginia should learn from its past.


Yeah, there's no reason a loving couple shouldn't be able to wed.
 
2014-01-23 09:17:23 AM  
www.jdpayne.org
 
2014-01-23 09:19:15 AM  
Still not proud to say I live in Virginia, but it's nice to know we actually elected sane representatives.
 
2014-01-23 09:21:04 AM  

RminusQ: stpauler: Of all states that should know about marriage equality laws, Virginia should learn from its past.

Yeah, there's no reason a loving couple shouldn't be able to wed.


www.killthehydra.com
 
2014-01-23 09:21:27 AM  
I like your style, subby.
 
2014-01-23 09:22:03 AM  

Demiglace: It is not the first time an attorney general has decided to stop defending their state's gay marriage ban. In Pennsylvania, Attorney General Kathleen Kane said last year that she would stop defending that state's gay marriage ban, also calling it unconstitutional. An outside law firm was hired to represent the state in a lawsuit over the ban.

Seems a shame they can't just have the attorney general represent the state in that sort of case. I suppose it would basically mean them going into court just saying that the state is in the wrong, so this makes me more confused by the government's system since I have to wonder who really makes the phone call to the law firm to ask them to represent them in a case that their own state's people say is supposed to lose.


It's ultimately the Governor's call. In the case of PA, the Governor publicly likens gay relationships to incest. I don't think McAuliffe would put up that type of show in VA.
 
2014-01-23 09:24:17 AM  
Back 20 years ago, I was all for DADT rather than allowing gays openly in the military.  I was fine with gays in the military, but I thought it best to take smaller steps and move forward rather than try to take big steps and fall down.  Back 8 or 10 years ago, I was all for civil unions.  Again, I supported gay marriage, but thought it best to take smaller steps.  I thought trying to move too fast would be counterproductive.

I am so frickin' happy that this is moving so much faster than I ever imagined.  As progressive as I am, I never thought the attitude of this country would move with the speed that it has.  5 years ago, state constitutional bans were all the rage.  Now, half the population can get gay married if they want to.  I am very unexpectedly and pleasantly surprised.
 
2014-01-23 09:24:24 AM  
A pastor told me that the church gave too much power to the state to regulate marriage, and has no one to blame but themselves.

I LOL'd.
 
2014-01-23 09:26:47 AM  
General Herring in the Library with a Candlestick.
 
2014-01-23 09:26:58 AM  

kronicfeld: stpauler: Of all states that should know about marriage equality laws, Virginia should learn from its past.

Having lived here my entire life, I can tell you that this state has a pathological and all-but-institutionalized imperative not to learn from the past but to return to the past. Everything here is named for a figure in the Civil War; there are a billion Lee Highways, and "Mosby" might as well be stamped on every other road and building.  For Christ's sake, the Friday before MLK Day is counter-programmed with Lee-Jackson Day.


I don't think I've ever been so embarrassed for my state as when they fought for Lee-Jackson Day.

Heritage, my ass.
 
2014-01-23 09:28:43 AM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: Back 20 years ago, I was all for DADT rather than allowing gays openly in the military.  I was fine with gays in the military, but I thought it best to take smaller steps and move forward rather than try to take big steps and fall down.  Back 8 or 10 years ago, I was all for civil unions.  Again, I supported gay marriage, but thought it best to take smaller steps.  I thought trying to move too fast would be counterproductive.

I am so frickin' happy that this is moving so much faster than I ever imagined.  As progressive as I am, I never thought the attitude of this country would move with the speed that it has.  5 years ago, state constitutional bans were all the rage.  Now, half the population can get gay married if they want to.  I am very unexpectedly and pleasantly surprised.


Consider this:  About a decade and a half ago, no country in the world had gay marriage.  IIRC Netherlands was the first.  Now most of Europe and a good portion of the USA.  Yeah, the genie is out of the bottle now.

My theory:  It's because people came out.  It's no longer an abstract concept, it affects people that other people know.  I'm not gay, but I have relatives who are.  Friends who are.  So do a LOT of people these days.  When the question moves from "should gays be allowed to marry?" to "should these gay people I know who have been in a relationship for decades be allowed to marry?", it's a game changer.
 
2014-01-23 09:29:05 AM  

s2s2s2: A pastor told me that the church gave too much power to the state to regulate marriage, and has no one to blame but themselves.

I LOL'd.


ugh. I don't have enough palms.
 
2014-01-23 09:29:13 AM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: Back 20 years ago, I was all for DADT rather than allowing gays openly in the military.  I was fine with gays in the military, but I thought it best to take smaller steps and move forward rather than try to take big steps and fall down.  Back 8 or 10 years ago, I was all for civil unions.  Again, I supported gay marriage, but thought it best to take smaller steps.  I thought trying to move too fast would be counterproductive.

I am so frickin' happy that this is moving so much faster than I ever imagined.  As progressive as I am, I never thought the attitude of this country would move with the speed that it has.  5 years ago, state constitutional bans were all the rage.  Now, half the population can get gay married if they want to.  I am very unexpectedly and pleasantly surprised.


That's just what they want. Pretty soon, it'll be subtle, it'll happen fast but you won't even notice it until BAM! Suddenly you love dong.

/It's not a gay agenda, it's gay sinister machinations.
 
2014-01-23 09:29:20 AM  
Question for any lawyers in the know. Indiana insists on going forward with their attempt at this banning gay marriage nonsense, even as it's being declared unconstitutional left and right. Is there a method by which the lawmakers responsible can be sued for wasting public funds on something that's been proven again and again to be unconstitutional? Basically, is there a way to hold these people accountable more than once very 2-6 years?
 
2014-01-23 09:31:30 AM  

clambam: General Herring in the Library with a Candlestick.


excuse me
 
2014-01-23 09:32:13 AM  

born_yesterday: I don't think I've ever been so embarrassed for my state as when they fought for Lee-Jackson Day.

Heritage, my ass.


I liked it better a few years back when they had rolled the whole thing into one day - Lee, Jackson, King Day. How could that have made anyone happy? (as a govt employee, I do dig the four day weekend).
 
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