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(Think Progress)   The Heritage Foundation is feeling the agony of DeMint   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 24
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2014-01-23 09:55:35 AM
LOL. Heritage is going the make 'American Thinker' look like 'The Economist'.
 
2014-01-23 10:06:58 AM
Hello there....lo there.....lo there.......
 
2014-01-23 10:08:27 AM
"In 1999, he founded the Club for Growth, one of the hardest of hard-line conservative PACs, and served as its President until 1999."

Typo, or more Palin than Palin?
 
2014-01-23 10:09:55 AM
It must be the Heritage Foundation's Waterloo.  It will break them.
 
2014-01-23 10:10:21 AM

StopLurkListen: "In 1999, he founded the Club for Growth, one of the hardest of hard-line conservative PACs, and served as its President until 1999."

Typo, or more Palin than Palin?



Club for Growth: hard line or hard liniest?
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-01-23 10:13:52 AM
The "Heritage" they talk about is the Heritage of wearing a white robe.

Fark these guys.
 
2014-01-23 10:15:34 AM

vernonFL: LOL. Heritage is going the make 'American Thinker' look like 'The Economist'.


But he did forecast the price of gold would be at $2000, oops it is $1261 this morning. I have to hope he bought some of those coins from Glenn Back.
 
2014-01-23 10:16:44 AM

Rann Xerox: It must be the Heritage Foundation's Waterloo.  It will break them.


If anything this is a worse sign for the GOP, it's old guard fiscal conservative institutions are turning tea party.

www.austinchronicle.com
 
2014-01-23 10:24:32 AM
FTA: He (Moore) got everything important wrong.

well, he'll fit right in then eh?
 
2014-01-23 10:42:24 AM
www.troegs.com

Picture all these filled with jenkum and now you know what a right wing think tank is.
 
2014-01-23 10:43:22 AM
I know they usually spell everything with Ks and stuff, but I don't see how they get 'chief economist' out of Grand Kleagle.
 
2014-01-23 10:56:28 AM
"Conservatives" need to understand - when they assimilate the right wing "economics" that are shoveled out by that segment of the media, they are listening to guys like this - uncredentialed, unqualified amateurs who have no idea what they are talking about.
 
2014-01-23 10:57:47 AM
This guy has a track record much akin to Bill Kristol's.

He's a barometer of sorts, an "opposite barometer" if you will.  If he says inflation will go up, you can certain it will drop, if he says "buy gold" then your reaction should be to sell, sell, sell!  If he is on record as saying that Congress dropping the extension of unemployment benefits will help the economy, you can bet that Congress should extend them (and probably raise them a bit.)

Over the last 20-30 years, I've certainly had my differences of opinion with the Heritage Foundation in regards to policy issues, but I knew several of the people there had legit points of view which they could actually back with something other than pure rhetoric.    Now, it's like the inmates of taken over the asylum and whatever credibility the Heritage Foundation once had has been tossed out the window. These hacks, poseurs, and extremist who have taken over are bound to make them a laughing stock. Way to go Tea Party people, you sure showed us.
 
2014-01-23 11:05:03 AM
The Heritage Foundation is a shill group for the GOP. Why is it shocking they hired a like-minded shill for their chief-economist?
 
2014-01-23 11:09:07 AM
You mean the folks who thought that most of the ACA was a good idea until a Democrat picked it up?

The nice thing about the Heritage Foundation, is that they helped found a lot of presses and publishing houses, and that generates the scholarship to back up the claims of their regular output. That scholarship is then used to defend the policies that the Congresscritters and Governors and mayors who happen to side with them pick up. It's a wonderful cycle.

It hasn't "become a Tea Party lobby." It helped engineer the whole damn thing, and is now using the publishing power to support its creation. It isn't a bug, it's a feature. This isn't an evolution, it's part of their strategy.
 
2014-01-23 11:10:40 AM

Fart_Machine: The Heritage Foundation is a shill group for the GOP. Why is it shocking they hired a like-minded shill for their chief-economist?


I think it's more complicated than that. Even prior to DeMint, it was on the intellectually plausible edge of the right wing. Often times, it was pressing the Republican party further right then it necessarily wanted to be.
 
2014-01-23 11:18:24 AM

Fart_Machine: The Heritage Foundation is a shill group for the GOP teabaggers. Why is it shocking they hired a like-minded shill for their chief-economist?


The GOP proper hates everything about them.

DeMint fled there after realizing his political ambitions had been boxed out, and is seeking revenge.
 
2014-01-23 11:30:54 AM

d23: The "Heritage" they talk about is the Heritage of wearing a white robe.

Fark these guys.


When I first heard of these guys I thought it was a branch of the Heritage Front. I was wrong, but not that far off in retrospect.
 
2014-01-23 11:37:12 AM

hackalope: Fart_Machine: The Heritage Foundation is a shill group for the GOP. Why is it shocking they hired a like-minded shill for their chief-economist?

I think it's more complicated than that. Even prior to DeMint, it was on the intellectually plausible edge of the right wing. Often times, it was pressing the Republican party further right then it necessarily wanted to be.


The Heritage Foundation was a gathering place for NeoCons, while they were still forming the schism within the party. It began as a place to generate policy positions to dun politicians, mainly for business interests. It was crewed by NeoCons who realized that the generation of scholarship was necessary to win the hearts and minds of the party, and their embrasure of the TEA Party isn't because they're the new shiny kids on the block, but they are an Astroturf "movement" that was created to give the impression that just everyday folks get what folks like the Heritage Foundation has been putting down for years. It is about generating justifications for policies already decided upon, and delivering these policies, and the TEA Party is just another way to help force politicians to choose between doing their will, or doing something that will piss off the Heritage Foundation's sponsors. It isn't about solid policy, it is about insuring that cash will flow, and power will be conserved. That is really what their Conservatism is about: the conservation of cash and power, not about solid and steady policy. They have embraced radicalized notions, and pushed them as "conservative" because no one wants to admit that their policies are indeed radical. That was what helped push the divide between NeoCons and what are now termed paleocons. That radicalized policy, is given the veneer of "Conservative thought" by think tanks, policy papers, and captive presses to disguise this radicalized notion, and radicalized economics, and now they have Astroturf to disseminate these policies and make it seem as if they are populist. And it was not just a happy accident, but very much engineered. You don't get "grassroots" when you have a major network advertising your gatherings, and meetings. You don't get "grassroots" when your spokesmen are chosen for you.
 
2014-01-23 12:04:42 PM

HotWingConspiracy: Fart_Machine: The Heritage Foundation is a shill group for the GOP teabaggers. Why is it shocking they hired a like-minded shill for their chief-economist?

The GOP proper hates everything about them.

DeMint fled there after realizing his political ambitions had been boxed out, and is seeking revenge.


Heritage Foundation as it was, that was one thing. But now, Heritage Action has supplanted the parent as a power if I understand the progression correctly. As you say, there's apparently a lot of ill will toward them in Congress over the shutdown fiasco, something Heritage Action pushed aggressively for.
 
2014-01-23 12:17:11 PM

jso2897: "Conservatives" need to understand - when they assimilate the right wing "economics" that are shoveled out by that segment of the media, they are listening to guys like this - uncredentialed, unqualified amateurs who have no idea what they are talking about.


You forget that ignorance of the subject and a reliance on gut instinct to guide the way is seen as a feature not a glitch:

http://youtu.be/pzrUt9CHtpY

"Someone has to stand up to experts!"
 
2014-01-23 12:58:02 PM
We talking about the same Heritage Foundation that created Obamacare?
 
2014-01-23 02:37:14 PM
What a bunch of assholes. Die stupidly by your own hand. Make the world a better place by accident, because you won't do it deliberately.
 
2014-01-23 03:56:54 PM

ToastmasterGeneral: We talking about the same Heritage Foundation that created Obamacare?


Yes
 
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