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(Orlando Sentinel)   Disney World trying to determine how to deal with the "scourge" of homeless families that have taken root near the Magic Kingdom   (orlandosentinel.com) divider line 61
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2014-01-23 08:48:20 AM
Two posts into the comments, and someone blames it on Obama. Haha.
 
2014-01-23 09:04:07 AM
the "shockingly high" number of homeless families in Osceola stem from a unique intersection of low-wage jobs, high mobility, cheap and plentiful motel rooms...

So... Disney cast members?
 
2014-01-23 09:06:15 AM
Well, it's a safe bet that at least one of them is a prince or princess. Possibly in hiding, possibly an orphan, you can never really know. So they have that going for them, at least.
 
2014-01-23 09:17:59 AM
I thought the "Uterbraten" at the Epcot Germany pavilion tasted weird...
 
2014-01-23 09:24:43 AM
lolsnaps.com
 
2014-01-23 09:26:23 AM
It isn't called Trashcoast Parkway for nothing.
 
2014-01-23 09:26:48 AM
If you RTFA, it's more of a squatters problem than a homeless problem.  People are checking into cheap motels, stop paying and claiming residence status forcing motel owners to undergo the expensive legal process of eviction.  The local sheriff says aw shucks, look at these poor people and the motel owners who are probably not very wealthy are screwed.  Would be interesting to see how long that would last if they tried it at a 5 star hotel near Disney.  I bet the sheriff would have no problem throwing them out then.
 
2014-01-23 09:27:18 AM
Make a movie out of it?
 
2014-01-23 09:28:22 AM
Give them pay raises?
 
2014-01-23 09:29:19 AM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-01-23 09:29:46 AM

SecretAgentWoman: Two posts into the comments, and someone blames it on Obama. Haha.

It's hard to get people to take entry-Ievel jobs when they can get direct deposit welfare checks, health care, food stamps and ObamaPhones.


This one is even better

Remember when the real American President, GW Bush was in office, rags like this did story after story about "tent-cities" when the unemployment rate hit 4%?!!  Now it is realistically 13% and this rag blames everyone but the person at fault.  One Marxist-in-Chief, Hussein Obama.
 
2014-01-23 09:29:47 AM
I don't buy that.
 
2014-01-23 09:31:05 AM
I wonder how long you can stay homeless at WDW before being escorted off the property?
 
2014-01-23 09:31:23 AM
White people problems?
 
2014-01-23 09:33:12 AM
Mugato:
Remember when the real American President, GW Bush was in office, rags like this did story after story about "tent-cities" when the unemployment rate hit 4%?!!  Now it is realistically 13% and this rag blames everyone but the person at fault.  One Marxist-in-Chief, Hussein Obama.

comfort yourself with the knowledge that no one that stupid will never be in a position of power or influence over you
 
2014-01-23 09:33:21 AM

Pocket Ninja: Well, it's a safe bet that at least one of them is a prince or princess. Possibly in hiding, possibly an orphan, you can never really know. So they have that going for them, at least.


Any frogs down there?
 
2014-01-23 09:34:17 AM

CivicMindedFive: If you RTFA, it's more of a squatters problem than a homeless problem.  People are checking into cheap motels, stop paying and claiming residence status forcing motel owners to undergo the expensive legal process of eviction.  The local sheriff says aw shucks, look at these poor people and the motel owners who are probably not very wealthy are screwed.  Would be interesting to see how long that would last if they tried it at a 5 star hotel near Disney.  I bet the sheriff would have no problem throwing them out then.


.. Or Celebration.
 
2014-01-23 09:36:40 AM
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2014-01-23 09:37:30 AM

MFAWG: [lolsnaps.com image 725x603]


hahaha. that's awesome
 
2014-01-23 09:37:47 AM

olapbill: CivicMindedFive: If you RTFA, it's more of a squatters problem than a homeless problem.  People are checking into cheap motels, stop paying and claiming residence status forcing motel owners to undergo the expensive legal process of eviction.  The local sheriff says aw shucks, look at these poor people and the motel owners who are probably not very wealthy are screwed.  Would be interesting to see how long that would last if they tried it at a 5 star hotel near Disney.  I bet the sheriff would have no problem throwing them out then.

.. Or Celebration.


"Hey, I've got an idea!  Let's base a housing development off of the neighborhood from Edward Scissorhands!"
 
2014-01-23 09:42:18 AM

tricycleracer: Or Celebration.

"Hey, I've got an idea!  Let's base a housing development off of the neighborhood from Edward Scissorhands!"


Or the Stepford Wives. That's a creepy farking place.
 
2014-01-23 09:42:54 AM

dstanley: I wonder how long you can stay homeless at WDW before being escorted off the property?


I'm guessing park closing time.
 
2014-01-23 09:44:30 AM

LemSkroob: dstanley: I wonder how long you can stay homeless at WDW before being escorted off the property?

I'm guessing park closing time.


Tom Sawer's Island, Injun Joe's cave, under the bridge, into the bottomless pit. They never look there. Well they probably will now.
 
2014-01-23 09:47:10 AM

Mugato: LemSkroob: dstanley: I wonder how long you can stay homeless at WDW before being escorted off the property?

I'm guessing park closing time.

Tom Sawer's Island, Injun Joe's cave, under the bridge, into the bottomless pit. They never look there. Well they probably will now.


I'd have to think there isn't a square inch of park that isn't covered with a security cameras.
 
2014-01-23 09:47:31 AM
Just got back from a few days in Disney and Universal, so getting a kick...

Seriously, this time may have been my last. Too many farking foreigners with their bad breath, bad body odor, bad choices in clothing, bad manners, etc.
 
2014-01-23 09:48:47 AM

Mugato: tricycleracer: Or Celebration.

"Hey, I've got an idea!  Let's base a housing development off of the neighborhood from Edward Scissorhands!"

Or the Stepford Wives. That's a creepy farking place.


I don't know that Celebration is materially worse than dozens of uber-restrictive HOA subidivisions/"covenant-controlled communities" I've seen.
 
2014-01-23 09:56:02 AM

SecretAgentWoman: Two posts into the comments, and someone blames it on Obama. Haha.


The comments on that website are routinely poisoned by the most vile pablum you'll see anywhere on the internet.
 
2014-01-23 09:57:11 AM

CivicMindedFive: If you RTFA, it's more of a squatters problem than a homeless problem.  People are checking into cheap motels, stop paying and claiming residence status forcing motel owners to undergo the expensive legal process of eviction.  The local sheriff says aw shucks, look at these poor people and the motel owners who are probably not very wealthy are screwed.  Would be interesting to see how long that would last if they tried it at a 5 star hotel near Disney.  I bet the sheriff would have no problem throwing them out then.


What hotel doesn't charge up front? The only ones I could think of would be those trying to hide a paper trail from the IRS
 
2014-01-23 09:58:57 AM
Well, Disney owns some cruise ships, so put them all on one, sail into Somali waters and let nature take its course...
 
2014-01-23 09:59:48 AM

dstanley: I wonder how long you can stay homeless at WDW before being escorted off the property?


The last time we were there we had a homeless guy sleeping in a bus stop.  He wasn't there for long.
 
2014-01-23 10:00:16 AM
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Disneyland official welcoming committee
 
2014-01-23 10:00:16 AM

Uzzah: Mugato: tricycleracer: Or Celebration.

"Hey, I've got an idea!  Let's base a housing development off of the neighborhood from Edward Scissorhands!"

Or the Stepford Wives. That's a creepy farking place.

I don't know that Celebration is materially worse than dozens of uber-restrictive HOA subidivisions/"covenant-controlled communities" I've seen.


Celebration does have a bit of a creepy vibe, and maybe thats because of the ties to Disney and their image of ultra-clean living, but Celebration and other towns like it, like Seaside, FL, are examples of "New Urbanism", which has some very valid points to make. Mainly, the goal is to create towns that are walkable and multi-zoned/mixed-use, much like how old-world towns use to be. The idea being, you could walk to and from work and all the shopping you would need to do.
 
2014-01-23 10:00:38 AM
it would be interesting if Walt were around. To see what he would do. heartless money grabber or guy who loves kids. We'll never know.
 
2014-01-23 10:21:06 AM
That's funny, I didn't see the word "scourge" anywhere in TFA. And the people quoted in the article seem to be genuinely interested in finding solutions. Then again, this is Fark, so I shouldn't expect the headline to be an accurate representation of the article.

The article is correct in that the strip along US 192 attracts people (especially families) who have housing problems. They come from the surrounding areas because there are a lot of cheap motels that rent by the week or the month, and while they're not the nicest or cleanest, it beats living in your car. Residency in a motel is sufficient to get your kids registered for school, and the schools do a lot to help those kids.

/Used to live in Osceola County
//My kids had school friends who lived in the motels
///It's surprisingly common
 
2014-01-23 10:22:15 AM
I like the ad above the article,
"4 Days in 2 Bdrm Villa w/ Kitchen For $149 - Sleeps 8 - Not Per Night"

This works out to less than $5 a day/person. I might move to FL - I need 7 good friends, with benefits.

Howard Hughes spent a good portion of his life living like this and never got called homeless.
 
2014-01-23 10:22:51 AM

edmo: it would be interesting if Walt were around. To see what he would do. heartless money grabber or guy who loves kids. We'll never know.


My guess: Heartless kid grabber who loves money.
 
2014-01-23 10:25:30 AM
There are ways to deal with this

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2014-01-23 10:28:57 AM

Ficoce: I like the ad above the article,
"4 Days in 2 Bdrm Villa w/ Kitchen For $149 - Sleeps 8 - Not Per Night"

This works out to less than $5 a day/person. I might move to FL - I need 7 good friends, with benefits.

Howard Hughes spent a good portion of his life living like this and never got called homeless.


Those prices are always quoted per person in an effort to mislead you.

You can see it more commonly when it's for a hotel room "based on double occupancy."

That's more like $300 per couple for 4 days...which means 3 nights.
 
2014-01-23 10:33:59 AM

JohnCarter: There are ways to deal with this


Be prepared
 
2014-01-23 10:40:15 AM

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Excellent portrait of Mousewicz.
 
2014-01-23 10:41:43 AM

Lady J: Mugato:
Remember when the real American President, GW Bush was in office, rags like this did story after story about "tent-cities" when the unemployment rate hit 4%?!!  Now it is realistically 13% and this rag blames everyone but the person at fault.  One Marxist-in-Chief, Hussein Obama.

comfort yourself with the knowledge that no one that stupid will never be in a position of power or influence over you


I live in Florida. You're dead wrong.
 
2014-01-23 10:43:37 AM

KeatingFive: Lady J: Mugato:
Remember when the real American President, GW Bush was in office, rags like this did story after story about "tent-cities" when the unemployment rate hit 4%?!!  Now it is realistically 13% and this rag blames everyone but the person at fault.  One Marxist-in-Chief, Hussein Obama.

comfort yourself with the knowledge that no one that stupid will never be in a position of power or influence over you

I live in Florida. You're dead wrong.


oh

sorry : (
 
2014-01-23 10:45:59 AM

KiwDaWabbit: What hotel doesn't charge up front?


...seriously?

I've stayed at lots of hotels where the service desk is not behind bulletproof glass, and the normal practice at those places is to put an initial hold of roughly 1-2 nights' stay on your credit card upfront, but not authorize and capture the actual amount owed until it's determined at checkout.

I don't know what their policy is on cash payments because who doesn't use a credit card?
 
2014-01-23 10:53:19 AM

poot_rootbeer: KiwDaWabbit: What hotel doesn't charge up front?

...seriously?

I've stayed at lots of hotels where the service desk is not behind bulletproof glass, and the normal practice at those places is to put an initial hold of roughly 1-2 nights' stay on your credit card upfront, but not authorize and capture the actual amount owed until it's determined at checkout.

I don't know what their policy is on cash payments because who doesn't use a credit card?


So shady family gives them a credit card with a few hundred dollars limit, they charge 2 nights and shady family says for 9 months.  That is what is happening (at least inferred from the article).  Then they are not guests at the hotel but claim "residency" and the motel has to follow landlord rules which are time consuming and expensive to kick them out.  It sounds like central Florida is developing it's own breed of Roma or somthing.
 
2014-01-23 10:58:59 AM
Play "It's a Small World" on loop at high volume where they stay. They'll crack eventually.
 
2014-01-23 11:01:54 AM
Rat poison may be problematic.

Langdon Alger: Play "It's a Small World" on loop at high volume where they stay. They'll crack eventually.


I give them 15 minutes, tops.
 
2014-01-23 11:01:55 AM

poot_rootbeer: KiwDaWabbit: What hotel doesn't charge up front?

...seriously?

I've stayed at lots of hotels where the service desk is not behind bulletproof glass, and the normal practice at those places is to put an initial hold of roughly 1-2 nights' stay on your credit card upfront, but not authorize and capture the actual amount owed until it's determined at checkout.

I don't know what their policy is on cash payments because who doesn't use a credit card?


1 day or 1/3 deposit for reservation, balance due at check-in.
Photo ID required. NO LOCALS. 30 day limit.
Standard Operating Procedure.
$200.00 - $300.00 a night beach hotel.
Enjoy your stay.

"Cast Members" lulz!
 
2014-01-23 11:09:03 AM

Pangea: Ficoce: I like the ad above the article,
"4 Days in 2 Bdrm Villa w/ Kitchen For $149 - Sleeps 8 - Not Per Night"

This works out to less than $5 a day/person. I might move to FL - I need 7 good friends, with benefits.

Howard Hughes spent a good portion of his life living like this and never got called homeless.

Those prices are always quoted per person in an effort to mislead you.

You can see it more commonly when it's for a hotel room "based on double occupancy."

That's more like $300 per couple for 4 days...which means 3 nights.


That's why only one person checks in. I see something like that here with migrant housing. A group hires an old lady with free housing to rent a run down apartment and live there. This will be the base of operations; an address, a phone number, a place to stay between jobs - for upwards of 40 people while they travel around and work.  Sometimes the old lady watches the kids while the folks are out of town. Pretty soon the other apartments in the complex will be rented the same way - the places can go nuts on weekends. The apartment owners probably don't like it, but it's hard to argue with 0% vacancy.

These weekly motels in FL are probably the same - the owners would love to gouge the tourists, but do they invest a bunch to upgrade the properties to draw this crowd in, or keep the overhead low for guaranteed cash flow? Hard to enforce a rate policy when your motel is empty.
 
2014-01-23 11:16:26 AM
I had no enjoyment at Disney World. The sheets and blankets were worn and torn, the hall smelled like a gym. Inside the park, so many people that they had to close the park entrance. No places to eat due to the crowds. The first thing they ask you at the gate is if you want to finance your tickets. Think about that. Inside the Contempary time share selling. Everything is so expensive, I vow never to go back. The mouse has found his way into your wallet and that is a greedy little FARKInG mouse.
 
2014-01-23 11:16:36 AM
There not homeless, they're free grazers for WDW food supply.
 
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