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(Mirror.co.uk)   Good news for Brits: Ghost ship that's been adrift in the North Atlantic for the past year and crewed entirely by a hungry cabal of cannibal rats could be heading straight for you. ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR   (mirror.co.uk) divider line 74
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2014-01-23 09:19:20 AM
Hard thing to find a ship on the ocean that doesn't radiate some sort of a signal or even a heat signature (it will be at ambient temperature most of the time).

About the only hope to find it, other than just stumbling upon it it, is a radar search.  Enough aircraft to search for it would be expensive, and really the only other option is a radar satellite.  Take a look at snap-shots of the North Atlantic in subsequent passes, and subtract out any large ship-like targets that move faster than a couple of knots, and you'll be left with just a few potential candidates which you can then investigate by aircraft or nearby naval assets.
 
2014-01-23 09:25:04 AM
Even worse, they've been developing technology.

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-01-23 09:31:06 AM

Sybarite: Even worse, they've been developing technology.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x607]


Actually, they drank the vodka.
 
2014-01-23 09:58:51 AM
content9.flixster.com
 
2014-01-23 09:59:30 AM
Hmm. If you started with 100 rats and they had nothing to eat but each other, how long would the last rat last?
 
2014-01-23 10:00:54 AM
I just hope they aren't the Biker Mice From Mars

fc03.deviantart.net
 
2014-01-23 10:05:05 AM
CANNIBAL is all CAPITALIZED!  Everyone in Britain be afraid of the rats that...eat other rats?  Nice job, Mirror.
 
2014-01-23 10:05:49 AM
Hello????

news.xinhuanet.com
 
2014-01-23 10:06:50 AM

Brick-House: Hello????

[news.xinhuanet.com image 850x510]


Worth $600,000 in scrap, they ain't sinking it.
 
2014-01-23 10:07:10 AM
One squeak only, Vasily
 
2014-01-23 10:07:46 AM
Being crewed by cannibal rats can't be much worse that the crew that deserted her at St John's.
 
2014-01-23 10:10:08 AM
After two years tied up in port, the decision was taken to tow her to the Dominican Republic in the Caribbean where she would be scrapped.
But in heavy seas, the tow-line to a tug broke, prompting the Canadian government to send out another ship to drag her far out to sea and release her.



This doesn't make any sense. Why not just complete the original plan?
 
2014-01-23 10:12:45 AM
FTA -  prompting the Canadian government to send out another ship to drag her far out to sea and release her.


If you love her let her go, if she loves you she will come back.  Obviously, she did not love Canada
 
2014-01-23 10:13:34 AM

abhorrent1: After two years tied up in port, the decision was taken to tow her to the Dominican Republic in the Caribbean where she would be scrapped.
But in heavy seas, the tow-line to a tug broke, prompting the Canadian government to send out another ship to drag her far out to sea and release her.


This doesn't make any sense. Why not just complete the original plan?


I think it was too rough to take it very far, so they just got it out of the way.
 
2014-01-23 10:15:15 AM
"Her current position is unknown despite several high-level searches."

Bullshiat.  During WWII the US and British navies located, and destroyed, most Nazi U-Boats using primitive 1940s tech, but they can't manage to find an abandoned rust bucket drifting around?  They can't find this thing, because no on is really looking.
 
2014-01-23 10:15:25 AM
TFA "One searcher, Belgian Pim de Rhoodes, told The Sun: "She is floating around out there somewhere."

Well, no shiate Sherlock, of course she is, I could have said that. And you're supposed to be a professional salvage hunter?!

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Hmm. If you started with 100 rats and they had nothing to eat but each other, how long would the last rat last?


From Wiki "a female producing up to five litters a year. The gestation period is only 21 days, and litters can number up to 14, although seven is common. They reach sexual maturity in about five weeks."

That's a lot of rats however you look at it.
 
2014-01-23 10:17:07 AM
G-G-G-G-Ghost Pirates!!?!
 
2014-01-23 10:18:20 AM

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Hmm. If you started with 100 rats and they had nothing to eat but each other, how long would the last rat last?


THIS.... after a couple of months, unless they were in the hundred of thousands, they can't really reproduce that fast while feeding from each other.

I'd think that unless the stores were full, they'd resort to eating anything that had any food-value/organic... at some point.. well, unless they learn to fish or have birds landing on the deck and they are fast enough to catch these birds.

Unless... there's been several salvage crew that have ventured onto that boat, never to be heard from again and those salvage ships are also adrift now.

hmmm... MOVIE! I CALL THE RIGHTS!
 
2014-01-23 10:18:26 AM

YixilTesiphon: abhorrent1: After two years tied up in port, the decision was taken to tow her to the Dominican Republic in the Caribbean where she would be scrapped.
But in heavy seas, the tow-line to a tug broke, prompting the Canadian government to send out another ship to drag her far out to sea and release her.


This doesn't make any sense. Why not just complete the original plan?

I think it was too rough to take it very far, so they just got it out of the way.


This is why Canadians are different from Americans. There is no way we would not have taken the opportunity to blow shiat up! An American's first thought would have been "Sweet! Free target!".
 
2014-01-23 10:19:59 AM
Speaking of Cannibal Rats...

worldtravelguide2010.com
 
2014-01-23 10:20:30 AM
Remember folks, this is the Mirror, which make the Daily Fail look like a bastion of journalistic integrity. In reality, the boat most likely sank almost a year ago.
 
2014-01-23 10:24:26 AM
Wikipedia suggests it has already sunk.
 
2014-01-23 10:24:28 AM

Brick-House: Speaking of Cannibal Rats...

[worldtravelguide2010.com image 850x565]


Nice.
 
2014-01-23 10:25:38 AM

Fano: One squeak only, Vasily


They would have liked to have seen Nova Scotia.
 
2014-01-23 10:25:45 AM

Fissile: "Her current position is unknown despite several high-level searches."

Bullshiat.  During WWII the US and British navies located, and destroyed, most Nazi U-Boats using primitive 1940s tech, but they can't manage to find an abandoned rust bucket drifting around?  They can't find this thing, because no on is really looking.


During WW2, it was worth spending the resources to protect materiel shipping.

This is one boat with a scrap value that would barely pay for the fuel to get a tug out to it.
 
2014-01-23 10:26:41 AM

dittybopper: Hard thing to find a ship on the ocean that doesn't radiate some sort of a signal or even a heat signature (it will be at ambient temperature most of the time).

About the only hope to find it, other than just stumbling upon it it, is a radar search.  Enough aircraft to search for it would be expensive, and really the only other option is a radar satellite.  Take a look at snap-shots of the North Atlantic in subsequent passes, and subtract out any large ship-like targets that move faster than a couple of knots, and you'll be left with just a few potential candidates which you can then investigate by aircraft or nearby naval assets.



static3.wikia.nocookie.net
Commander: Have you located the enemy's heat signature, Private?
Private: Yes, sir. But I also noticed something... strange. Something... I can't explain.
Commander: Well, spit it out, man.
Private: I... I... I can't seem to locate... our heat signature.
 
2014-01-23 10:28:52 AM

imfallen_angel: To The Escape Zeppelin!: Hmm. If you started with 100 rats and they had nothing to eat but each other, how long would the last rat last?

THIS.... after a couple of months, unless they were in the hundred of thousands, they can't really reproduce that fast while feeding from each other.

I'd think that unless the stores were full, they'd resort to eating anything that had any food-value/organic... at some point.. well, unless they learn to fish or have birds landing on the deck and they are fast enough to catch these birds.

Unless... there's been several salvage crew that have ventured onto that boat, never to be heard from again and those salvage ships are also adrift now.

hmmm... MOVIE! I CALL THE RIGHTS!


I'M SORRY RICHARD PARKER!
 
2014-01-23 10:32:13 AM
So subby can capitalize "ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" but he/she can't capitalize "CANNIBAL" as per the article?

Shame on you, subby.
 
2014-01-23 10:33:37 AM
Send in a tactical team of cannibal cats.
 
2014-01-23 10:34:56 AM
i775.photobucket.com

Vermin in an abandoned and adrift vessel, you say?  Better send along an Engineer to keep them under control.
 
2014-01-23 10:35:03 AM
WE MUST STAY VIGILANT!
 
2014-01-23 10:39:43 AM
Cannibal Rats is a good band name. I call it.
 
2014-01-23 10:42:27 AM

dittybopper: Hard thing to find a ship on the ocean that doesn't radiate some sort of a signal or even a heat signature (it will be at ambient temperature most of the time).

About the only hope to find it, other than just stumbling upon it it, is a radar search.  Enough aircraft to search for it would be expensive, and really the only other option is a radar satellite.  Take a look at snap-shots of the North Atlantic in subsequent passes, and subtract out any large ship-like targets that move faster than a couple of knots, and you'll be left with just a few potential candidates which you can then investigate by aircraft or nearby naval assets.


You sound like you know what you're talking about!
 
2014-01-23 10:47:21 AM
Came here to reference torpedoing it. *tiny fist*
 
2014-01-23 10:51:49 AM
I hereby claim the rights to the name "Cannibal Rat Cabal" for my new metal band.
 
2014-01-23 10:58:30 AM
i.imgur.com
This cruise ship?
 
2014-01-23 10:59:01 AM

Fissile: "Her current position is unknown despite several high-level searches."

Bullshiat.  During WWII the US and British navies located, and destroyed, most Nazi U-Boats using primitive 1940s tech, but they can't manage to find an abandoned rust bucket drifting around?  They can't find this thing, because no on is really looking.


The differences are as follows:

1. The Allies used Radio Direction Finding of transmitted radio signals from the U-boats.  The rats are likely not transmitting any radio signals.

2. The Allies used intelligence information derived from breaking the Enigma machine cipher used by the U-boats to predict their movements in the future.  Again, the rats aren't transmitting.

3. The Allies used radar to search for U-boats, which we could to in this case, but during WWII we knew where many of the U-boats were because of 1 and 2.

4. The Germans needed to concentrate against convoys in order to be effective.  So the Allies put most of their antisubmarine assets (like destroyers and corvettes) in those convoys to directly battle the U-boats where they needed to mass in order to be effective.

A ship that is the same temperature as the sea isn't going to show up on infrared, and while it will show up on radar, radar has a limited range.  Even an aircraft flying at 50,000 feet can only see a ship out to a distance just a bit more than 300 miles away.  A circle with a radius of, say, 320 miles, has a coverage area of 3,158 square miles.

The Atlantic has an area of over 41 million square miles.
 
2014-01-23 10:59:27 AM

puckrock2000: Remember folks, this is the Mirror, which make the Daily Fail look like a bastion of journalistic integrity. In reality, the boat most likely sank almost a year ago.


FTA: They believe the liner is still afloat because its life-raft transmitters have not been activated.


The beacons that made people think it may have sunk have activated twice now, weeks apart. Your article reports on the first beacon, but there was another about two weeks after that one. If the ship had sunk when your source said it did, it would have only gone off that first time. Maybe it sunk the second time, maybe it didn't- the life raft transmitters should have gone off too, and if the Mirror's reporting is accurate (they're citing the salvage guy who would presumably know), that's probably a sign that the ship is still afloat. It is a decently large ship, and they're built to not go down easily. I'd suspect a leak or two formed and exposed the emergency transmitter to water a couple of times.
 
2014-01-23 11:04:05 AM
Who knew Canada had a catch and release program for cruise ships?
 
2014-01-23 11:06:28 AM
in 2010 [it] was impounded in Newfoundland, Canada in a row over debts

So it's just a row boat?
 
2014-01-23 11:17:42 AM
Everton is the dominant species. I am Everton.
 
2014-01-23 11:21:23 AM
Pandorum II?
 
2014-01-23 11:24:24 AM
Reminds me of this:

Three Skeleton Key

This scarred me for life as a child. (and scared me too)
 
2014-01-23 11:34:39 AM

FrancoFile: [i775.photobucket.com image 308x490]

Vermin in an abandoned and adrift vessel, you say?  Better send along an Engineer to keep them under control.


On the gripping hand....
 
2014-01-23 11:46:12 AM

abhorrent1: After two years tied up in port, the decision was taken to tow her to the Dominican Republic in the Caribbean where she would be scrapped.
But in heavy seas, the tow-line to a tug broke, prompting the Canadian government to send out another ship to drag her far out to sea and release her.


This doesn't make any sense. Why not just complete the original plan?


The course of action they took must have been the most economical. There's no other criteria in this situation.
 
2014-01-23 11:57:06 AM

stuhayes2010: Brick-House: Hello????

[news.xinhuanet.com image 850x510]

Worth $600,000 in scrap, they ain't sinking it.


And, how much would you spend on lawyers to claim the rights to salvage it?  Unfortunately, the case of finders vs keepers doesn't apply in this situation.  Add in the cost of towing too.  If it was a profitable venture, Canada wouldn't have set it adrift.
 
2014-01-23 12:04:48 PM
How are cannibal rats a bad thing? They have the taste for rat flesh, sounds like a great way to get rid of regular trash eating, home invading rats..then after therye all gone, they just eat eachother, no need to release snakes and gorillas.
 
2014-01-23 12:16:37 PM

weapon13: TFA "One searcher, Belgian Pim de Rhoodes, told The Sun: "She is floating around out there somewhere."

Well, no shiate Sherlock, of course she is, I could have said that. And you're supposed to be a professional salvage hunter?!

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Hmm. If you started with 100 rats and they had nothing to eat but each other, how long would the last rat last?

From Wiki "a female producing up to five litters a year. The gestation period is only 21 days, and litters can number up to 14, although seven is common. They reach sexual maturity in about five weeks."

That's a lot of rats however you look at it.


hunh, finally a real-world application for all the things I learned in differential equations opposed to just putting weights on springs.  I think the only information/assumption still needed is how often do rats need to eat, and how many live rats can one dead rat feed.
 
2014-01-23 12:29:19 PM

Watubi: stuhayes2010: Brick-House: Hello????

[news.xinhuanet.com image 850x510]

Worth $600,000 in scrap, they ain't sinking it.

And, how much would you spend on lawyers to claim the rights to salvage it?  Unfortunately, the case of finders vs keepers doesn't apply in this situation.  Add in the cost of towing too.  If it was a profitable venture, Canada wouldn't have set it adrift.


Actually, anyone who manages to salvage it would be entitled to a rather substantial reward from the owners, who it would appear don't have the ability to pay, so I'm guessing that eventually title to the ship would be transferred to the salvors in lieu of payment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_salvage
 
2014-01-23 12:52:04 PM
I've found the ship, boarded and am sitting on the deck, so I'm kicking a get..

I'll let you guys know the exact coords later, bouts to go dropz da anchor and draft a Constitution for my new micronation up in hea, boy-eeeeeee
 
2014-01-23 01:11:09 PM
.

I really don't get why the Canadians didn't sink it when they had a chance. Isn't this the normal course, given that it's a hazard adrift? IIRC they sunk some Japanese fishing trawlers that were headed their way after the earthquake. It almost seems like they opened themselves up to be sued if anyone gets hurt or has property damage from this vessel they just set adrift.
 
2014-01-23 01:19:16 PM
Someone help me out here. I have recollections of a story or movie where the bad guy is telling the good guy that he taught rats on an island to eat each other to keep the rats under control and I haven't the faintest idea what it was? Vague memories of Bond though if that helps.
 
2014-01-23 01:46:23 PM

Medic Zero: .

I really don't get why the Canadians didn't sink it when they had a chance. Isn't this the normal course, given that it's a hazard adrift? IIRC they sunk some Japanese fishing trawlers that were headed their way after the earthquake. It almost seems like they opened themselves up to be sued if anyone gets hurt or has property damage from this vessel they just set adrift.


Because the boat is most definitely moving away from Canada, in international waters, and will never come back. It's not their problem and never will be again.
 
2014-01-23 01:49:48 PM

Kozmopoliskepticalopsis: Reminds me of this:

Three Skeleton Key

This scarred me for life as a child. (and scared me too)


That's a terrific short story.
 
2014-01-23 02:04:56 PM

Watubi: stuhayes2010: Brick-House: Hello????

[news.xinhuanet.com image 850x510]

Worth $600,000 in scrap, they ain't sinking it.

And, how much would you spend on lawyers to claim the rights to salvage it?  Unfortunately, the case of finders vs keepers doesn't apply in this situation.  Add in the cost of towing too.  If it was a profitable venture, Canada wouldn't have set it adrift.


Well, "finder's keepers" is *kind of* a valid legal premise, if I remember the law of abandonment from Law School.

Basically, the "finder" would have to convince a judge that the property was abandoned (really just meaning "left somewhere") and that the original owner intended to abandon it.

So the question here is whether the dock that cut it loose was acting on behalf of the rightful owner (and also who the rightful owner is prior to cutting it loose).

My hunch is there's a pretty decent chance of making that showing. Of course the finder might also have to pay any costs associated with the vessel in the first place. For instance the ship that dragged it out into the sea. Don't really know about that part, though.
 
2014-01-23 02:13:01 PM

imfallen_angel: To The Escape Zeppelin!: Hmm. If you started with 100 rats and they had nothing to eat but each other, how long would the last rat last?

THIS.... after a couple of months, unless they were in the hundred of thousands, they can't really reproduce that fast while feeding from each other.

I'd think that unless the stores were full, they'd resort to eating anything that had any food-value/organic... at some point.. well, unless they learn to fish or have birds landing on the deck and they are fast enough to catch these birds.

Unless... there's been several salvage crew that have ventured onto that boat, never to be heard from again and those salvage ships are also adrift now.

hmmm... MOVIE! I CALL THE RIGHTS!


johnkennethmuir.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-01-23 02:37:44 PM

dittybopper: Fissile: "Her current position is unknown despite several high-level searches."

Bullshiat.  During WWII the US and British navies located, and destroyed, most Nazi U-Boats using primitive 1940s tech, but they can't manage to find an abandoned rust bucket drifting around?  They can't find this thing, because no on is really looking.

The differences are as follows:

1. The Allies used Radio Direction Finding of transmitted radio signals from the U-boats.  The rats are likely not transmitting any radio signals.

2. The Allies used intelligence information derived from breaking the Enigma machine cipher used by the U-boats to predict their movements in the future.  Again, the rats aren't transmitting.

3. The Allies used radar to search for U-boats, which we could to in this case, but during WWII we knew where many of the U-boats were because of 1 and 2.

4. The Germans needed to concentrate against convoys in order to be effective.  So the Allies put most of their antisubmarine assets (like destroyers and corvettes) in those convoys to directly battle the U-boats where they needed to mass in order to be effective.

A ship that is the same temperature as the sea isn't going to show up on infrared, and while it will show up on radar, radar has a limited range.  Even an aircraft flying at 50,000 feet can only see a ship out to a distance just a bit more than 300 miles away.  A circle with a radius of, say, 320 miles, has a coverage area of 3,158 square miles.

The Atlantic has an area of over 41 million square miles.


Having toured the Coast Guard's Fusion Center, I find these claims hard to believe. Cartels go to much more extreme lengths than simply no radio traffic to smuggle drugs. This ship doesn't blend into the water, and it sits far above the waterline. It shouldn't be much of a trick for satellite imaging to detect something that large.
 
2014-01-23 02:57:20 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Someone help me out here. I have recollections of a story or movie where the bad guy is telling the good guy that he taught rats on an island to eat each other to keep the rats under control and I haven't the faintest idea what it was? Vague memories of Bond though if that helps.


Hello James, welcome. Do you like the island?
 
2014-01-23 03:01:18 PM

stewbert: dittybopper: Fissile: "Her current position is unknown despite several high-level searches."

Bullshiat.  During WWII the US and British navies located, and destroyed, most Nazi U-Boats using primitive 1940s tech, but they can't manage to find an abandoned rust bucket drifting around?  They can't find this thing, because no on is really looking.

The differences are as follows:

1. The Allies used Radio Direction Finding of transmitted radio signals from the U-boats.  The rats are likely not transmitting any radio signals.

2. The Allies used intelligence information derived from breaking the Enigma machine cipher used by the U-boats to predict their movements in the future.  Again, the rats aren't transmitting.

3. The Allies used radar to search for U-boats, which we could to in this case, but during WWII we knew where many of the U-boats were because of 1 and 2.

4. The Germans needed to concentrate against convoys in order to be effective.  So the Allies put most of their antisubmarine assets (like destroyers and corvettes) in those convoys to directly battle the U-boats where they needed to mass in order to be effective.

A ship that is the same temperature as the sea isn't going to show up on infrared, and while it will show up on radar, radar has a limited range.  Even an aircraft flying at 50,000 feet can only see a ship out to a distance just a bit more than 300 miles away.  A circle with a radius of, say, 320 miles, has a coverage area of 3,158 square miles.

The Atlantic has an area of over 41 million square miles.

Having toured the Coast Guard's Fusion Center, I find these claims hard to believe. Cartels go to much more extreme lengths than simply no radio traffic to smuggle drugs. This ship doesn't blend into the water, and it sits far above the waterline. It shouldn't be much of a trick for satellite imaging to detect something that large.


The satellites only patrol the relatively narrow routes that the diesel-electric cocaine submarines use though
 
2014-01-23 03:17:00 PM

stewbert: Having toured the Coast Guard's Fusion Center, I find these claims hard to believe. Cartels go to much more extreme lengths than simply no radio traffic to smuggle drugs. This ship doesn't blend into the water, and it sits far above the waterline. It shouldn't be much of a trick for satellite imaging to detect something that large.


Actually, someone would have to look at the images, and that's a *LOT* of images.

Again, you're trying to find something that is a veritable *SPECK* on an ocean much larger than the area that the Coast Guard keeps track of.  Plus, there are vessels that size on the ocean, so just a quick search isn't necessarily going to find it.  You'd have to catalog every single vessel that approximate size over the entire North Atlantic, and then do a comparison at a later date to see which ones have moved significantly.

Plus, something else to consider:  On satellite images. a moving ship will show a wake, which is much larger and more visible than the ship itself:

www.nrcan.gc.ca

The types of satellites that have a resolution capable of actually imaging this ship closely enough to distinguish it as a non-moving ship have a very narrow field of view, and thus they only see a small "strip" of the ocean during a pass.

It's kind of like if you look at the night sky with a telescope, you will be able to see more detail than  you can with the naked eye, but it will be of a much smaller "chunk" of the night sky than your eyes can see.  The more you increase the magnification, the smaller the field of view.

This is why the Soviets used to use nuclear powered radar ocean surveillance satellites to find the US Navy, because visual satellites are just the wrong tool for the job.

Except that the Soviets were generally looking for things like carrier battle groups, easy to distinguish as a group of blips in a ring around a larger blip.
 
2014-01-23 03:30:31 PM

puckrock2000: Uchiha_Cycliste: Someone help me out here. I have recollections of a story or movie where the bad guy is telling the good guy that he taught rats on an island to eat each other to keep the rats under control and I haven't the faintest idea what it was? Vague memories of Bond though if that helps.

Hello James, welcome. Do you like the island?


thanks, that was bugging the hell out of me.
 
2014-01-23 04:03:51 PM

dittybopper: stewbert: Having toured the Coast Guard's Fusion Center, I find these claims hard to believe. Cartels go to much more extreme lengths than simply no radio traffic to smuggle drugs. This ship doesn't blend into the water, and it sits far above the waterline. It shouldn't be much of a trick for satellite imaging to detect something that large.

Actually, someone would have to look at the images, and that's a *LOT* of images.

Again, you're trying to find something that is a veritable *SPECK* on an ocean much larger than the area that the Coast Guard keeps track of.  Plus, there are vessels that size on the ocean, so just a quick search isn't necessarily going to find it.  You'd have to catalog every single vessel that approximate size over the entire North Atlantic, and then do a comparison at a later date to see which ones have moved significantly.

Plus, something else to consider:  On satellite images. a moving ship will show a wake, which is much larger and more visible than the ship itself:

[www.nrcan.gc.ca image 421x412]

The types of satellites that have a resolution capable of actually imaging this ship closely enough to distinguish it as a non-moving ship have a very narrow field of view, and thus they only see a small "strip" of the ocean during a pass.

It's kind of like if you look at the night sky with a telescope, you will be able to see more detail than  you can with the naked eye, but it will be of a much smaller "chunk" of the night sky than your eyes can see.  The more you increase the magnification, the smaller the field of view.

This is why the Soviets used to use nuclear powered radar ocean surveillance satellites to find the US Navy, because visual satellites are just the wrong tool for the job.

Except that the Soviets were generally looking for things like carrier battle groups, easy to distinguish as a group of blips in a ring around a larger blip.


I just figured that they'd use their Palantir to "look" at all the pictures. I know the tech isn't good at faces, but I figured it is good enough to find an object.
 
2014-01-23 04:20:02 PM
Oh FFS just scramble the RAF to bomb the shiat out of it - would be a good training mission.
 
2014-01-23 04:30:26 PM
Cannibal rats. So they eat other rats. What's the problem?
 
2014-01-23 04:31:28 PM

ukexpat: Oh FFS just scramble the RAF to bomb the shiat out of it - would be a good training mission.


Bombing an adrift cruise ship would be good training for your air force? I hope nobody with an outboard engine ever tries to invade you guys.
 
2014-01-23 04:49:33 PM
Actually, a drifting ship would not leave much wake if any.


It might leave a bit of a slick (not oil, but less disturbed water) on its lee side, however. Don't know if that can be easily seen.

/sailor
//has observed my boat adrift.
 
2014-01-23 05:26:10 PM

real_headhoncho: imfallen_angel: To The Escape Zeppelin!: Hmm. If you started with 100 rats and they had nothing to eat but each other, how long would the last rat last?

THIS.... after a couple of months, unless they were in the hundred of thousands, they can't really reproduce that fast while feeding from each other.

I'd think that unless the stores were full, they'd resort to eating anything that had any food-value/organic... at some point.. well, unless they learn to fish or have birds landing on the deck and they are fast enough to catch these birds.

Unless... there's been several salvage crew that have ventured onto that boat, never to be heard from again and those salvage ships are also adrift now.

hmmm... MOVIE! I CALL THE RIGHTS!

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That thing is, quite literally, my only memory of having watched Space 1999. Everything else I know about it is only what I can read about online (or watch anew).
 
2014-01-23 05:39:40 PM

ArcadianRefugee: That thing is, quite literally, my only memory of having watched Space 1999. Everything else I know about it is only what I can read about online (or watch anew).


Yeah... a space monster that grabs one of your crewmates, eats them, then spits out the remains in front of you before grabbing someone else sort of sticks in your memory.

/cheezy effects now, but scared the shiat out of me when I was a kid.
 
2014-01-23 05:54:07 PM
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2014-01-23 07:11:05 PM

dittybopper: stewbert: Having toured the Coast Guard's Fusion Center, I find these claims hard to believe. Cartels go to much more extreme lengths than simply no radio traffic to smuggle drugs. This ship doesn't blend into the water, and it sits far above the waterline. It shouldn't be much of a trick for satellite imaging to detect something that large.

Actually, someone would have to look at the images, and that's a *LOT* of images.

Again, you're trying to find something that is a veritable *SPECK* on an ocean much larger than the area that the Coast Guard keeps track of.  Plus, there are vessels that size on the ocean, so just a quick search isn't necessarily going to find it.  You'd have to catalog every single vessel that approximate size over the entire North Atlantic, and then do a comparison at a later date to see which ones have moved significantly.

Plus, something else to consider:  On satellite images. a moving ship will show a wake, which is much larger and more visible than the ship itself:

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The types of satellites that have a resolution capable of actually imaging this ship closely enough to distinguish it as a non-moving ship have a very narrow field of view, and thus they only see a small "strip" of the ocean during a pass.

It's kind of like if you look at the night sky with a telescope, you will be able to see more detail than  you can with the naked eye, but it will be of a much smaller "chunk" of the night sky than your eyes can see.  The more you increase the magnification, the smaller the field of view.

This is why the Soviets used to use nuclear powered radar ocean surveillance satellites to find the US Navy, because visual satellites are just the wrong tool for the job.

Except that the Soviets were generally looking for things like carrier battle groups, easy to distinguish as a group of blips in a ring around a larger blip.


I think you only get a wake if you're under power - or at least moving at a different speed or direction than the surface waters.
 
2014-01-23 07:44:24 PM

dionysusaur: dittybopper: stewbert: Having toured the Coast Guard's Fusion Center, I find these claims hard to believe. Cartels go to much more extreme lengths than simply no radio traffic to smuggle drugs. This ship doesn't blend into the water, and it sits far above the waterline. It shouldn't be much of a trick for satellite imaging to detect something that large.

Actually, someone would have to look at the images, and that's a *LOT* of images.

Again, you're trying to find something that is a veritable *SPECK* on an ocean much larger than the area that the Coast Guard keeps track of.  Plus, there are vessels that size on the ocean, so just a quick search isn't necessarily going to find it.  You'd have to catalog every single vessel that approximate size over the entire North Atlantic, and then do a comparison at a later date to see which ones have moved significantly.

Plus, something else to consider:  On satellite images. a moving ship will show a wake, which is much larger and more visible than the ship itself:

[www.nrcan.gc.ca image 421x412]

The types of satellites that have a resolution capable of actually imaging this ship closely enough to distinguish it as a non-moving ship have a very narrow field of view, and thus they only see a small "strip" of the ocean during a pass.

It's kind of like if you look at the night sky with a telescope, you will be able to see more detail than  you can with the naked eye, but it will be of a much smaller "chunk" of the night sky than your eyes can see.  The more you increase the magnification, the smaller the field of view.

This is why the Soviets used to use nuclear powered radar ocean surveillance satellites to find the US Navy, because visual satellites are just the wrong tool for the job.

Except that the Soviets were generally looking for things like carrier battle groups, easy to distinguish as a group of blips in a ring around a larger blip.

I think you only get a wake if you're under power - or at least moving at a diff ...


That was my point, if it wasn't really clear.
 
2014-01-24 03:09:33 AM
That can mean only one thing... ghost rats
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2014-01-24 09:54:08 AM
Hopefully the plot will be as good as in the amazing, bulldada movie Death Ship (1980).

Starring America's greatest president, George Kennedy, as well as Richard Crenna.

Part of its reviews:

"I spent about thirty minutes washing my mouth out after watching this crap...  Make sure you have lots of alcohol on hand before popping this tape in the VCR my friends."

Honest to goodness, it is now available both as a "remastered" DVD and on Blu-Ray.
 
2014-01-24 10:39:45 AM
This all happened before in Dracula.  Ghost ship full of rats crashes into Britain, and BAM!  Dracula happens.

They've already sent out their Bieber Renfield to distract us by trying to eat barflies.  That ship is probably loaded with Canadian vampires.  We'll be overrun with very polite bloofer ladies in a matter of weeks.

Canada's probably nothing but vampires at this point....They'll probably go after Pennsylvania first.  Someone call the Amish Embassy and warn them, quick!

Our only hope is the Tim Horton's in Columbus, Ohio.  We need to send in a team to spike the crullers and Tim Bits with garlic immediately.

Why is no one taking this threat seriosuly?!?
 
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