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(Denver Channel)   I thought VFWs were just places where veterans sat around and drank. Turns out there's at least one skeleton in their closet   (thedenverchannel.com) divider line 34
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2014-01-22 08:34:19 PM  
Geronimo.
 
2014-01-22 09:49:18 PM  
A skeleton kept in the basement of the Longmont VFW for years belonged to a man in his 30's

So why don't they ask him who's they are?
 
2014-01-22 11:04:41 PM  

fusillade762: A skeleton kept in the basement of the Longmont VFW for years belonged to a man in his 30's

So why don't they ask him who's they are?


Ah, the glories of vague grammar.
 
2014-01-23 02:47:31 AM  
MAKE A BONG OUT OF HIS SKULL!

/That'd be cool, man...
 
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2014-01-23 02:55:33 AM  
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2014-01-23 02:58:10 AM  

Obryn: MAKE A BONG OUT OF HIS SKULL!

/That'd be cool, man...


That's hippie talk! Real Vet'runs only drink sh*t beer on tap and escape from their wives to reminisce over their horrible, inhuman, good-ol-days in the military


/at least, that was my VFW experience
//though I was on active duty at the time, so my sh*t beer was free
 
2014-01-23 02:59:22 AM  
Gay line dancing night?  I thought that was well advertised.
 
2014-01-23 03:00:02 AM  
FTFA: ".From several measurements taken of the skull, pubic area and the head of the femur, they were able to discover the bones belonged to a Caucasian man, roughly 32 years old."

How can they tell race via bones?
 
2014-01-23 03:15:28 AM  

WDFark think for a second: How can they tell race via bones?


Skulls are pretty easy. It has to do with how your teeth line up against your the bone your nose attaches to. If you can take a pencil and rock it against the teeth, you're looking at (generally) a non-European person. If the pencil creates a bridge across the nose to the chin without touching the teeth, it's generally a person of European descent. The width of the nose bridge and the brow can also provide clues.

/I have odd jaws for a white person, so more than likely the pencil would rock on my teeth even though the closest non-white ancestor is about 10 generations away
 
2014-01-23 03:21:46 AM  

WDFark think for a second: FTFA: ".From several measurements taken of the skull, pubic area and the head of the femur, they were able to discover the bones belonged to a Caucasian man, roughly 32 years old."

How can they tell race via bones?


NEWSFLASH: People with perceptibly different racial appearances and characteristics may have differences in bone structure.
 
2014-01-23 03:28:15 AM  
War Trophies: Hardcore Edition
 
2014-01-23 03:42:39 AM  

Peki: WDFark think for a second: How can they tell race via bones?

Skulls are pretty easy. It has to do with how your teeth line up against your the bone your nose attaches to. If you can take a pencil and rock it against the teeth, you're looking at (generally) a non-European person. If the pencil creates a bridge across the nose to the chin without touching the teeth, it's generally a person of European descent. The width of the nose bridge and the brow can also provide clues.

/I have odd jaws for a white person, so more than likely the pencil would rock on my teeth even though the closest non-white ancestor is about 10 generations away


There are more ways than that, and when it comes to someone of mixed race it can get murky. I highly suggest reading Death's Acre by Dr. Bill Bass - it's about the original 'Body Farm'. Kathy Reichs' books (the inspiration for the show Bones) are pretty good also, but Death's Acre is much more clinical because it's based on his life's work.
 
2014-01-23 03:45:42 AM  
 
2014-01-23 03:54:17 AM  

ladyfortuna: Peki: WDFark think for a second: How can they tell race via bones?

Skulls are pretty easy. It has to do with how your teeth line up against your the bone your nose attaches to. If you can take a pencil and rock it against the teeth, you're looking at (generally) a non-European person. If the pencil creates a bridge across the nose to the chin without touching the teeth, it's generally a person of European descent. The width of the nose bridge and the brow can also provide clues.

/I have odd jaws for a white person, so more than likely the pencil would rock on my teeth even though the closest non-white ancestor is about 10 generations away

There are more ways than that, and when it comes to someone of mixed race it can get murky. I highly suggest reading Death's Acre by Dr. Bill Bass - it's about the original 'Body Farm'. Kathy Reichs' books (the inspiration for the show Bones) are pretty good also, but Death's Acre is much more clinical because it's based on his life's work.


Yeah, I couldn't remember everything off the top of my head from the physical anthro class I took in college a whargbble years back (omg I really don't want to think about that). I found that whole aspect of forensic anthro fascinating. Hmm, interesting career option, and good for an introvert. . .
 
2014-01-23 04:15:06 AM  
OK, let's see.

A 30-ish man, been there about 50 years. So if it's 2014 now, minus 50 [calculatecalculatecalculate] that means his bones showed up there around the mid/late 60's.

He's Caucasian, so he's likely a veteran, and allowing for early dating error...I'm going to guess he was a homeless Vietnam vet who had no place else to live, died in the basement, and his buds figured they'd keep him there till they figured out what to do with him...and 50 years later here he still is because why the hell not?

That's my scenario, anyone else?
 
2014-01-23 06:25:48 AM  

Gyrfalcon: OK, let's see.

A 30-ish man, been there about 50 years. So if it's 2014 now, minus 50 [calculatecalculatecalculate] that means his bones showed up there around the mid/late 60's.

He's Caucasian, so he's likely a veteran, and allowing for early dating error...I'm going to guess he was a homeless Vietnam vet who had no place else to live, died in the basement, and his buds figured they'd keep him there till they figured out what to do with him...and 50 years later here he still is because why the hell not?

That's my scenario, anyone else?


His name was Cyrus Hogan, veteran of the Korean conflict. Mean in manners, mean in cards, and a meaner drunk. When he discovered a "torture club" within the ranks of the Post, he threatened to blow it wide open. As he turned to leave, one of the members of the club thwacked him across his freakishly brittle skull. He convulsed for a few minutes as the members of the club argued. Jim Servant gently kicked Cyrus' head and then looked at the ceiling. "No one will miss him. Let's put him downstairs for now."

That's my scenario. Anyone else?
 
2014-01-23 06:32:11 AM  

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2014-01-23 07:11:59 AM  

August11: Gyrfalcon: OK, let's see.

A 30-ish man, been there about 50 years. So if it's 2014 now, minus 50 [calculatecalculatecalculate] that means his bones showed up there around the mid/late 60's.

He's Caucasian, so he's likely a veteran, and allowing for early dating error...I'm going to guess he was a homeless Vietnam vet who had no place else to live, died in the basement, and his buds figured they'd keep him there till they figured out what to do with him...and 50 years later here he still is because why the hell not?

That's my scenario, anyone else?

His name was Cyrus Hogan, veteran of the Korean conflict. Mean in manners, mean in cards, and a meaner drunk. When he discovered a "torture club" within the ranks of the Post, he threatened to blow it wide open. As he turned to leave, one of the members of the club thwacked him across his freakishly brittle skull. He convulsed for a few minutes as the members of the club argued. Jim Servant gently kicked Cyrus' head and then looked at the ceiling. "No one will miss him. Let's put him downstairs for now."

That's my scenario. Anyone else?


The bones are ancient, cursed relics that ensnare the minds of men. First, the VFW kept them in a basement and performed secret, ritualistic rites with them after they fell under the bone's mysterious allure. Now the coroner has fallen under their covetous spell and is talking about keeping them for "training purposes" despite the original request that they be cremated.

That's my scenario. Anyone else?
 
2014-01-23 07:14:09 AM  
Its a shame, too, because the VA was just 15-18 months away from providing his BBE.
 
2014-01-23 07:30:49 AM  
FTFA PT 1: Members of the VFW told 7NEWS the bones have been there for years. They were used as part of a veteran's ritual called the "Last Man's Club" to honor veteran's before them.

ewww

FTFA PT 2:Originally, the VFW had asked to have the bones returned and cremated.

Why didn't you do that in the farking first place?!
 
2014-01-23 08:13:44 AM  

Halfmast Trousers: I just figured it was some WWII trophy. You know, a "Jap."

http://militaryhistorynow.com/2012/06/13/allied-headhunters-research -e xplains-origins-of-wartime-trophy-taking/


A GI brought a dead Japanese soldier back from WWII in his pack?
"Hey, look what I got, ma!"

// a creepier version of your cat leaving a dead mouse on the door step for you.
 
2014-01-23 08:24:10 AM  
After coming back from Nam, Pete was a little odd, especially about the little girls and boys.  One night Mark and Eddie and Steve spiked his Ol Mil, and then cut him to let him bleed out as he slept.

They did it to save his future "playmates", and protect his family, and the man he was before he stared War in the eyes.

Stashed his bones in the basement, made like he run off, was a better story that way.


That's my scenario. Anyone else?
 
2014-01-23 08:26:46 AM  

VladTheEmailer: A GI brought a dead Japanese soldier back from WWII in his pack?
"Hey, look what I got, ma!"


There is a cover of Life from WWII with a pic of a woman holding the skull of a Japanese soldier her Marine fiancee sent her.
 
2014-01-23 08:37:25 AM  

baka-san: VladTheEmailer: A GI brought a dead Japanese soldier back from WWII in his pack?
"Hey, look what I got, ma!"

There is a cover of Life from WWII with a pic of a woman holding the skull of a Japanese soldier her Marine fiancee sent her.


Maybe its just me, but I think I would have gone for a sword instead.
 
2014-01-23 08:48:50 AM  
He was trying to win a bar bet that he couldn't break Anne Frank's record?
 
2014-01-23 08:55:09 AM  
My dad brought back a Japanese bayonet when he came back from WWII. When he died my oldest brother got it. When my brother died, I have no clue where it went. I wish I had it.
 
2014-01-23 09:24:47 AM  

Halfmast Trousers: WDFark think for a second: FTFA: ".From several measurements taken of the skull, pubic area and the head of the femur, they were able to discover the bones belonged to a Caucasian man, roughly 32 years old."

How can they tell race via bones?

NEWSFLASH: People with perceptibly different racial appearances and characteristics may have differences in bone structure.


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2014-01-23 12:13:01 PM  

WDFark think for a second: FTFA: ".From several measurements taken of the skull, pubic area and the head of the femur, they were able to discover the bones belonged to a Caucasian man, roughly 32 years old."

How can they tell race via bones?


the skeleton wasn't wearing a hoodie?
/window seat, please
 
2014-01-23 02:43:37 PM  
"Hall said they also believe the bones have an archeological value; they are believed to be more than 50 years old."

What archeological value could bones from the 1960's have?
 
2014-01-23 03:51:01 PM  

Elegy: August11: Gyrfalcon: OK, let's see.

A 30-ish man, been there about 50 years. So if it's 2014 now, minus 50 [calculatecalculatecalculate] that means his bones showed up there around the mid/late 60's.

He's Caucasian, so he's likely a veteran, and allowing for early dating error...I'm going to guess he was a homeless Vietnam vet who had no place else to live, died in the basement, and his buds figured they'd keep him there till they figured out what to do with him...and 50 years later here he still is because why the hell not?

That's my scenario, anyone else?

His name was Cyrus Hogan, veteran of the Korean conflict. Mean in manners, mean in cards, and a meaner drunk. When he discovered a "torture club" within the ranks of the Post, he threatened to blow it wide open. As he turned to leave, one of the members of the club thwacked him across his freakishly brittle skull. He convulsed for a few minutes as the members of the club argued. Jim Servant gently kicked Cyrus' head and then looked at the ceiling. "No one will miss him. Let's put him downstairs for now."

That's my scenario. Anyone else?

The bones are ancient, cursed relics that ensnare the minds of men. First, the VFW kept them in a basement and performed secret, ritualistic rites with them after they fell under the bone's mysterious allure. Now the coroner has fallen under their covetous spell and is talking about keeping them for "training purposes" despite the original request that they be cremated.

That's my scenario. Anyone else?


...Jimmy Hoffa???!
 
2014-01-23 04:41:00 PM  

bratface: "Hall said they also believe the bones have an archeological value; they are believed to be more than 50 years old."

What archeological value could bones from the 1960's have?


Study of any defects developed during that person's life, maybe figure out where he's from by doing mineralogical testing or something?

/watch way too much Bones...
 
2014-01-23 04:41:19 PM  

Elegy: August11: Gyrfalcon: OK, let's see.

A 30-ish man, been there about 50 years. So if it's 2014 now, minus 50 [calculatecalculatecalculate] that means his bones showed up there around the mid/late 60's.

He's Caucasian, so he's likely a veteran, and allowing for early dating error...I'm going to guess he was a homeless Vietnam vet who had no place else to live, died in the basement, and his buds figured they'd keep him there till they figured out what to do with him...and 50 years later here he still is because why the hell not?

That's my scenario, anyone else?

His name was Cyrus Hogan, veteran of the Korean conflict. Mean in manners, mean in cards, and a meaner drunk. When he discovered a "torture club" within the ranks of the Post, he threatened to blow it wide open. As he turned to leave, one of the members of the club thwacked him across his freakishly brittle skull. He convulsed for a few minutes as the members of the club argued. Jim Servant gently kicked Cyrus' head and then looked at the ceiling. "No one will miss him. Let's put him downstairs for now."

That's my scenario. Anyone else?

The bones are ancient, cursed relics that ensnare the minds of men. First, the VFW kept them in a basement and performed secret, ritualistic rites with them after they fell under the bone's mysterious allure. Now the coroner has fallen under their covetous spell and is talking about keeping them for "training purposes" despite the original request that they be cremated.

That's my scenario. Anyone else?


The old farts on the honor guard all died before the service and the clucking hens in the women's auxiliary couldn't agree on who should be in charge next.
 
2014-01-23 11:08:08 PM  
That particular VFW was taken over by lizard people during the initial colonization in the 1950's and the bones are from a human mole who was going to blow the whole thing wide open. He was placed in the basement because that is anathema to their species; no sunlight means no afterlife

That's my scenario, anyone else?

/I've...I've said too much
 
2014-01-24 02:50:15 AM  
So if he's out of the closet does that mean he admits he's gay?
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