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(The Big Lead)   Richard Sherman on being called a "Thug" : "The only reason it bothers me is because it seems like it's the accepted way of calling somebody the N-word nowadays"   (thebiglead.com) divider line 403
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2014-01-22 06:38:48 PM
Wherein "Dumbass" refers to subby for believing otherwise?

/well, it's becoming less accepted as more people realize it
 
2014-01-22 06:47:07 PM
fc01.deviantart.net
 
2014-01-22 06:55:46 PM
Sounds about right to me.
 
2014-01-22 07:44:28 PM
Real thugs frown on your shenanigans.

static.environmentalgraffiti.com
 
2014-01-22 07:52:53 PM
Can we please just go back to using the N-word, I simply can't keep up anymore. This past while when the "dog whistle" thing was going on I was all WTF? for the longest time until I figured it out...I'm a busy guy and for the sake of efficiency let's just call a spade a spade.

Deal?
 
2014-01-22 07:54:46 PM
So is it now "whug"?
 
2014-01-22 08:03:39 PM
TINO?
 
2014-01-22 08:43:21 PM

Barfmaker: Can we please just go back to using the N-word, I simply can't keep up anymore. This past while when the "dog whistle" thing was going on I was all WTF? for the longest time until I figured it out...I'm a busy guy and for the sake of efficiency let's just call a spade a spade.

Deal?


no, it's too amusing watching Fox News and the GOP trying to find every synonym for uppity
 
2014-01-22 08:43:56 PM
I'm having a hard time disagreeing with him.
 
2014-01-22 08:45:37 PM
Richard Sherman is not a thug. Aaron Hernandez is a thug.
 
2014-01-22 08:49:01 PM
I'm not so sure he's wrong about that.
 
2014-01-22 08:57:56 PM
For what it is worth. I call hockey enforcers 'thugs.'
 
2014-01-22 08:58:20 PM
So what can we call basketball to express how much it sucks?
 
2014-01-22 09:00:02 PM
I liked this comment from Deadspin (I feel dirty saying that but here I am):

"Hey fellas, that's a pretty good idea, but how does "N-Word Life: Volume One" strike you? It's basically the same thing."
-Tupac Shakur
 
2014-01-22 09:15:56 PM
John Cena always wanted to be black. I guess he can be proud of his "thuganomics"
 
2014-01-22 09:19:25 PM
He's right.  He was acting like an egotistical asshole, not a thug.  Thug has a gang/criminal connotation, but he was just talking shiat.
 
2014-01-22 09:22:42 PM

JerseyTim: [fc01.deviantart.net image 260x194]


This

jaylectricity: Richard Sherman is not a thug. Aaron Hernandez is a thug.


And this

/He was not couth
 
2014-01-22 09:23:17 PM
He's not a thug.  At least not that I know.  He appears to be a monumental self-important douche who could go full Kanye if you gave him a long enough time on camera. He's welcome to change that perception, but so far he's not doing a very good job of doing so in my eyes.

That being said, and I know people are bucking against the validity of this now, but there really is truth to the idea that there are people and there are people who fit the stereotype, and the latter are why the stereotype exists.  Get rid of them, or stop glorifying them like we seem to do, and we won't have these stupid arguments anymore.
 
2014-01-22 09:54:07 PM
Hey, Richard? Take your pick. 'Thug' or n-word. Your call.

Hint: thugs come in all colors
 
2014-01-22 10:11:58 PM

John Buck 41: Hey, Richard? Take your pick. 'Thug' or n-word. Your call.

Hint: thugs come in all colors


Not "Thug Life" thugs.
 
2014-01-22 10:19:21 PM

Marcus Aurelius: John Buck 41: Hey, Richard? Take your pick. 'Thug' or n-word. Your call.

Hint: thugs come in all colors

Not "Thug Life" thugs.


And then you realize he went to Stanford
 
2014-01-22 10:20:35 PM

JerseyTim:


He's dead right, and it will be sad, because this will fall on dead ears because the people who need to hear it will refuse to listen.
 
2014-01-22 10:20:39 PM
Yeah, I don't recall anyone calling Mike Gundy a "thug" when he went off on that "I'm 40" tirade.
 
2014-01-22 10:22:41 PM
Since this whole discussion started I have read a bunch of people saying, "we always complain athletes are so boring in their responses and when we get a guy who shows real emotion we all get upset."

I want to go on record as never complaining about what athletes say in post game on field press conferences, I complain that the interviews exist at all.

They are useless. I just finished watching a game all the way to the end. I don't need further entertainments in the form of useless interview. Thinking back I can't ever remember anyone complaining about the post game interview being boring but I do remember, on many occasions, people talking about how stupid they are. To think we survived so many years without it.
 
2014-01-22 10:25:30 PM

Gunny Highway: Since this whole discussion started I have read a bunch of people saying, "we always complain athletes are so boring in their responses and when we get a guy who shows real emotion we all get upset."

I want to go on record as never complaining about what athletes say in post game on field press conferences, I complain that the interviews exist at all.

They are useless. I just finished watching a game all the way to the end. I don't need further entertainments in the form of useless interview. Thinking back I can't ever remember anyone complaining about the post game interview being boring but I do remember, on many occasions, people talking about how stupid they are. To think we survived so many years without it.


The best part is the arrogance of the media, thinking that sports is so big BECAUSE of the interviews, BECAUSE of the 24/7 coverage.
 
2014-01-22 10:25:33 PM
FTA, the lede:   Richard Sherman's rant is still a story during the Super Bowl lull.

No; no, it is not.
 
2014-01-22 10:25:40 PM
He may not be a Thug, but he's probably a Welfare Cheat, Or a Fringe Voter.
 
2014-01-22 10:25:40 PM

bhcompy: Marcus Aurelius: John Buck 41: Hey, Richard? Take your pick. 'Thug' or n-word. Your call.

Hint: thugs come in all colors

Not "Thug Life" thugs.

And then you realize he went to Stanford


Doesn't matter. I don't care how articulate he is, what his GPA was, or what his IQ is. He was a thug in that interview.
 
2014-01-22 10:25:45 PM

Bane of Broone: Yeah, I don't recall anyone calling Mike Gundy a "thug" when he went off on that "I'm 40" tirade.


What about Todd Bertuzi? I remember him being called a thug a lot.

I hope something positive comes out of this whole thing.
 
2014-01-22 10:28:00 PM

Gunny Highway: Since this whole discussion started I have read a bunch of people saying, "we always complain athletes are so boring in their responses and when we get a guy who shows real emotion we all get upset."

I want to go on record as never complaining about what athletes say in post game on field press conferences, I complain that the interviews exist at all.

They are useless. I just finished watching a game all the way to the end. I don't need further entertainments in the form of useless interview. Thinking back I can't ever remember anyone complaining about the post game interview being boring but I do remember, on many occasions, people talking about how stupid they are. To think we survived so many years without it.


Reporters and writers seek quotes because they're too lazy to actually offer news and insight. And 90% of players and coaches never say anything but the boring cliches. God forbid one of them be honest, or worse, interesting or entertaining.
 
2014-01-22 10:28:08 PM

Barfmaker: Can we please just go back to using the N-word, I simply can't keep up anymore. This past while when the "dog whistle" thing was going on I was all WTF? for the longest time until I figured it out...I'm a busy guy and for the sake of efficiency let's just call a spade a spade.

Deal?


Nice.
 
2014-01-22 10:29:42 PM

John Buck 41: He was a thug in that interview.


HE YELLED AT THE WHITE WOMAN OH LAWD JESUS
 
2014-01-22 10:30:02 PM

Gunny Highway: Bane of Broone: Yeah, I don't recall anyone calling Mike Gundy a "thug" when he went off on that "I'm 40" tirade.

What about Todd Bertuzi? I remember him being called a thug a lot.

I hope something positive comes out of this whole thing.


Bertuzzi wasn't a thug, he was a psychopath.
 
2014-01-22 10:30:43 PM

UNC_Samurai: Gunny Highway: Since this whole discussion started I have read a bunch of people saying, "we always complain athletes are so boring in their responses and when we get a guy who shows real emotion we all get upset."

I want to go on record as never complaining about what athletes say in post game on field press conferences, I complain that the interviews exist at all.

They are useless. I just finished watching a game all the way to the end. I don't need further entertainments in the form of useless interview. Thinking back I can't ever remember anyone complaining about the post game interview being boring but I do remember, on many occasions, people talking about how stupid they are. To think we survived so many years without it.

Reporters and writers seek quotes because they're too lazy to actually offer news and insight. And 90% of players and coaches never say anything but the boring cliches. God forbid one of them be honest, or worse, interesting or entertaining.


It's more of a business agreement than an interview. "I won't ask you anything that'll screw you over, and you won't answer with anything that'll screw me over." G-d bless the modern media.
 
2014-01-22 10:30:47 PM

FriarReb98: He's welcome to change that perception, but so far he's not doing a very good job of doing so in my eyes.


A Communications grad from Stanford had a microphone put in his face mere minutes after he made a play that most likely put his team in the Super Bowl, and also kept a division rival out.

He sounded like a "bad guy" pro wrestler, he didn't swear, and when Erin Andrews asked him questions, he answered the camera lens rather than looking at her.

If your perception is that he's a thug, you're his target audience.
 
2014-01-22 10:31:26 PM

Gunny Highway: I want to go on record as never complaining about what athletes say in post game on field press conferences, I complain that the interviews exist at all.

They are useless. I just finished watching a game all the way to the end. I don't need further entertainments in the form of useless interview. Thinking back I can't ever remember anyone complaining about the post game interview being boring but I do remember, on many occasions, people talking about how stupid they are. To think we survived so many years without it.


I would reply that they exist in the hopes that there are more Richard Shermans out there, that would give us the unfiltered perspective of the most talented athletes in the game in the moments that mean the most to them.

I'd also reply that since sports journalism, and especially broadcasting, is beyond chauvinistic, that "sideline reporter" is one of the few places that women are allowed to cover sports - they sure as hell don't like to put them in the booths because of the "stupid audience" syndrome...it can basically be explained with that xkcd comic with the guy watching a woman and a man screw up math.

So, as someone interested in gender equality and equal access for women, I'd prefer we not eliminate the one position where most of them can get the foot in the door within the industry. After all, Joe Buck and Troy Aikman don't provide us any insight, either, but we keep them in the booth.

/Much more in favor of eliminating most of the booth and "experts" from pre-game shows
 
2014-01-22 10:32:37 PM
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No I don't think we should use the word, and I'll tell ya why. Because n-----s have gotten used to it, that's why. Hell, they like it now. It's like when you growin' crops and you strip the soil of its nutrients and goodness and then you can't grow nothin'. You gotta rotate your racist slurs. Now I know it's hard 'cause 'n-----' just rolls off the tongue the way sweat rolls off a n-----'s forehead, but we can not let that be a crutch. Especially when there are so many fine substitutes: spade, porch monkey, jiggaboo. I say the next time you gonna call a darkie a n-----, you call that coon a jungle bunny instead.
 
2014-01-22 10:33:37 PM
www.worldwideinterweb.com
 
2014-01-22 10:34:14 PM

UNC_Samurai: Reporters and writers seek quotes because they're too lazy to actually offer news and insight. And 90% of players and coaches never say anything but the boring cliches. God forbid one of them be honest, or worse, interesting or entertaining.


The funny thing is that 90% of media reaction to it has been positive. The social media response has largely been negative.

/though admittedly, I listen mostly to younger, less prone to "you must appeal to old white people" journalists
 
2014-01-22 10:34:26 PM
Yeah, I mean, it sounds a little reactionary for him to be saying it but in my experience "thug" is just swapped in as a CYA for racism accusations.
 
2014-01-22 10:34:35 PM
The Boondocks, at times, is the some of most brilliant social commentary of its era.
 
2014-01-22 10:36:49 PM

IAmRight: UNC_Samurai: Reporters and writers seek quotes because they're too lazy to actually offer news and insight. And 90% of players and coaches never say anything but the boring cliches. God forbid one of them be honest, or worse, interesting or entertaining.

The funny thing is that 90% of media reaction to it has been positive. The social media response has largely been negative.

/though admittedly, I listen mostly to younger, less prone to "you must appeal to old white people" journalists


Right, I was referring to the practice in general. Although. I expected more hand-wringing from the pundits. They love it because they can turn around and act like sanctimonious jerks and draw ratings.
 
2014-01-22 10:37:00 PM

UNC_Samurai: God forbid one of them be honest, or worse, interesting or entertaining.


He was honest, but not the latter two adjectives.
 
2014-01-22 10:41:08 PM

bhcompy: Marcus Aurelius: John Buck 41: Hey, Richard? Take your pick. 'Thug' or n-word. Your call.

Hint: thugs come in all colors

Not "Thug Life" thugs.

And then you realize he went to Stanford


Yeah, people keep saying that like it's going to offset the asshole vibe he's got going on.

Hint: It doesn't. He still comes across as a bigmouth asshole. Stanford obviously did nothing to change that.
 
2014-01-22 10:41:14 PM

Gonz: FriarReb98: He's welcome to change that perception, but so far he's not doing a very good job of doing so in my eyes.

A Communications grad from Stanford had a microphone put in his face mere minutes after he made a play that most likely put his team in the Super Bowl, and also kept a division rival out.

He sounded like a "bad guy" pro wrestler, he didn't swear, and when Erin Andrews asked him questions, he answered the camera lens rather than looking at her.

If your perception is that he's a thug, you're his target audience.


Well...ok  LoL  He nailed/trolled me. Still think he's a dick. Still hope his team beats the shiat outta Denver.
 
2014-01-22 10:42:50 PM
He got his degree from Stanford with a 4.2 gpa, or so I was told over the radio. Second in his high school class and furious that he didn't get valedictorian.

He made a clutch play in a clutch moment of one of the most important games of his career, and Erin Andrews shoves a microphone in his face ten seconds after, and people are angry he was unfiltered and showed raw emotion?

A non-story if I ever saw one.
 
2014-01-22 10:43:51 PM
Beats already did a TV ad. I Just seen it on American Horror story
 
2014-01-22 10:44:13 PM

Gunny Highway: For what it is worth. I call hockey enforcers 'thugs.'


Apparently they're mostly white black people, and we didn't know it, because I have done the same thing. We should feel bad now because apparently we've been racist the whole time. FWIW, I've called many different people thugs over the years.
 
2014-01-22 10:44:35 PM
He's totally right.
 
2014-01-22 10:45:48 PM

Gunny Highway: For what it is worth. I call hockey enforcers 'thugs.'


Everyone else calls them goons.
 
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