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(BBC)   Note to Western tourists: Stop trying to travel through lawless militant held tribal Pakistani lands   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 67
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2014-01-22 08:47:15 PM
I fear there will be another tragedy like the one at Nanga Parbat. So much bloodshed in such a staggeringly beautiful country.
 
2014-01-22 09:13:09 PM
Its probably safer than Mexico
 
2014-01-22 09:47:49 PM
Police say they do not know why Mr Colorado was cycling through such a dangerous area.

I'm going with "He's an idiot".
 
433 [TotalFark]
2014-01-22 10:29:50 PM
It seems rather inappropriate for him to continue his bicycle trip after 6 people died and 5 people were wounded escorting him.  That's just me.
 
2014-01-22 10:49:35 PM

433: It seems rather inappropriate for him to continue his bicycle trip after 6 people died and 5 people were wounded escorting him.  That's just me.


But he was "slightly hurt after falling off his bike" so it balances out.
 
2014-01-22 11:02:52 PM

fusillade762: Police say they do not know why Mr Colorado was cycling through such a dangerous area.

I'm going with "He's an idiot".


There seems to be a lot of people that do this sort of stupid thing.  I can only guess that they're trust fund babies of some sort.
 
2014-01-22 11:27:53 PM

fusillade762: Police say they do not know why Mr Colorado was cycling through such a dangerous area.

I'm going with "He's an idiot".


Do you say the same to rape victims?

If you are gonna blame the victim in this case might as well go all out
 
2014-01-22 11:43:32 PM

cman: fusillade762: Police say they do not know why Mr Colorado was cycling through such a dangerous area.

I'm going with "He's an idiot".

Do you say the same to rape victims?

If you are gonna blame the victim in this case might as well go all out


If a woman decided to unnecessarily enter a neighborhood where rapes were very common despite the fact that police felt the need to send TWELVE armed guards along with her I might.
 
2014-01-23 01:54:41 AM

fusillade762: cman: fusillade762: Police say they do not know why Mr Colorado was cycling through such a dangerous area.

I'm going with "He's an idiot".

Do you say the same to rape victims?

If you are gonna blame the victim in this case might as well go all out

If a woman decided to unnecessarily enter a neighborhood where rapes were very common despite the fact that police felt the need to send TWELVE armed guards along with her I might.


is she also scantily clad...? i like where this is going....
 
2014-01-23 01:58:59 AM
I'm sure there are lots of gorgeous locations in Asia and the subcontinent where he wouldn't need to spend the night at the police station and need a dozen armed guards to make sure his trip didn't end in sudden death. It doesn't sound like he's exactly strapped for time. I'll go with him being a selfish, shortsighted ass, especially since he seems to be carrying on with the trip.

Incidentally, it shows just how thorough my knowledge of Pakistan is that my major association with Quetta is Kipling's poem "The Story of Uriah." Looks like the place hasn't gotten any healthier to be in over the last century and a half.
 
2014-01-23 02:00:49 AM
It doesn't matter where this happened.

The guy is a cyclist - of course, people will try to kill him. He's probably uploading some helmet-cam footage onto his blog as well speak.
 
2014-01-23 02:01:41 AM
well *we
 
2014-01-23 02:01:56 AM

cman: fusillade762: Police say they do not know why Mr Colorado was cycling through such a dangerous area.

I'm going with "He's an idiot".

Do you say the same to rape victims?

If you are gonna blame the victim in this case might as well go all out



If she travelled to Pakistan for fun and got her guards killed protecting her from danger in a lawless region, I might find it in my heart to blame her a little. Not in civilized lands, though.
 
2014-01-23 02:02:29 AM
But they're European! Why would anyone attack them? They're not even American!
 
2014-01-23 02:03:59 AM
Is this a zone of danger?
 
2014-01-23 02:07:01 AM

cman: fusillade762: Police say they do not know why Mr Colorado was cycling through such a dangerous area.

I'm going with "He's an idiot".

Do you say the same to rape victims?

If you are gonna blame the victim in this case might as well go all out



Also, nothing happened to him, his guards died protecting him. While he went bicycling, not transporting vital medical supplies or raising money for a charity, or anything but riding his bike. The only difference between his bicycling hobby and someone playing WoW obsessively is no one dies protecting the WoW player.
 
2014-01-23 02:07:18 AM
You know, do not send any escorts. Fark him
 
2014-01-23 02:07:19 AM
I hope that someday, we will have world peace and that we would be able to take a shiat on any road in any part of the road without getting shot.
 
2014-01-23 02:08:00 AM
This is the most absurd situation I've heard. Riding a damned bike around the world, riding into some of the most dangerous territory on earth, having a 11 guards snipered off and then continuing like it's no thing after mentioning that you fell off your bike and were slightly injured? What the bloody hell is this?
 
2014-01-23 02:10:11 AM
Doctors without Borders really need to start drawing lines on their maps.
 
2014-01-23 02:10:50 AM
His FB page is in Spanish. Does anyone know why he is doing this? Seems kinda foolhardy to go into some place you need 12 guards to get around in.
 
2014-01-23 02:10:57 AM

fireclown: Is this a zone of danger?


No, but it IS the highway to the danger zone...

/ lots of dudes playin' beach volleyball around here

// one more hint: Ghostrider, requesting fly-by
 
2014-01-23 02:12:42 AM
He should have done it at night. I've done trips through the countryside at night, not so much anymore, but riding at speed through the country at night puts you on edge.
 
2014-01-23 02:13:56 AM
That's going make his viral video and TED talk a real bummer.
 
2014-01-23 02:15:25 AM

Ex-Texan: He should have done it at night. I've done trips through the countryside at night, not so much anymore, but riding at speed through the country at night puts you on edge.


so would you say that you're a........night rider?

caba.de
 
2014-01-23 02:16:47 AM
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♫ I payed it never mind.  Go away.♪
 
2014-01-23 02:26:11 AM
Why the f*ck do bicyclists in Chicago go down one way streets the wrong way? Follow the rules of the road, assholes.
 
2014-01-23 02:28:19 AM
I had a friend who wanted to travel to Pakistan and was asking for advice on her Facebook page, but requested no one post anything from Western media because they're all lies.  Then the two Czech women got kidnapped.  She changed her mind pretty quickly after that.

This being the same person who while in Japan when the 2011 earthquake/tsunami occurred basically said everything in Fukushima was totally OK and that all other media outlets were totally exaggerating the damage done at the plant and the potential effects.  I wonder how that one turned out.
 
2014-01-23 02:29:37 AM
A message on Facebook said he intended to continue his trip from Europe on into Asia and the rest of the world.

It takes a special type of personality to go on one of these global bike trips -- for whatever freaking reason -- through war zones and just accept the fact that folks get their shiat blown away so you can make some kind of statement or record.

I still can't fathom the personality it takes for civilians from the USA to vacation in a war torn nation, knowing that the chances are very high that (A) civilians may get killed around them as insurgents try and knock off the Americans and (B) they may as well have targets on their backs.

Such folks usually gush about how they like the people, the food, the culture while they duck bullets, have to get security forces to escort them about and, on at least one occasion, had the car they were in riddled with bullets.

Yeah. Makes me want to run right over to some dirt nation, squabbling over religious stuff, blowing up as many civilians as they can with suicide bombs and more than happy to kidnap or gut a tourist, especially one from the USA. Just because I like the ambiance.

I think such folks figure their passports give them actual immunity from being shot to pieces.

And never let a little thing like a bloody civil war along with genocide get in the way of your walking or biking trip across the globe because your statement is more important than the little things like folks wantonly slaughtering each other. Tweet and blog about it as you go.
 
2014-01-23 02:34:06 AM
This guy and his associates come off as complete an utter assholes. Six people die for his bullshiat quest that nobody cares about and there's no mention of condolences or anything, just "First of all, we want to thank the Spanish consulate in Pakistan for all their help. We've received a call from the embassy and they have informed us that Javier is well and not hurt."

Then again maybe BBC is just being short on the pleasantries.
 
2014-01-23 02:34:58 AM

cman: fusillade762: Police say they do not know why Mr Colorado was cycling through such a dangerous area.

I'm going with "He's an idiot".

Do you say the same to rape victims?

If you are gonna blame the victim in this case might as well go all out


That...that was beautiful.

9/10.


As for the article, the guy is either CIA or an idiot.
I have no sympathy for either, one understood the risks and the other wouldn't understand if you wrote it with neon colors.


Also, they say truth is weirder than fiction, but this sounds like maximum trolling.
All that is missing is the guy scraping cars with his handle bars and not caring.

/did he use the term cagers?
 
2014-01-23 02:39:51 AM

legion_of_doo: But they're European! Why would anyone attack them? They're not even American!


Because he doesn't believe that people should spend one day of the year hitting themselves in the head with boards, because of something that happened sometime.  Or is it whipping themselves with chains?  I think they should update it and stick loaded guns in their mouths and pull the trigger, on that special day.

Or it could have been his smug expression, as he rode by on his fixie, after telling them he was headed for counties they had probably never heard of.  They really hate hipsters over there.
 
2014-01-23 02:44:03 AM

Rik01: A message on Facebook said he intended to continue his trip from Europe on into Asia and the rest of the world.

It takes a special type of personality to go on one of these global bike trips -- for whatever freaking reason -- through war zones and just accept the fact that folks get their shiat blown away so you can make some kind of statement or record.

I still can't fathom the personality it takes for civilians from the USA to vacation in a war torn nation, knowing that the chances are very high that (A) civilians may get killed around them as insurgents try and knock off the Americans and (B) they may as well have targets on their backs.

Such folks usually gush about how they like the people, the food, the culture while they duck bullets, have to get security forces to escort them about and, on at least one occasion, had the car they were in riddled with bullets.

Yeah. Makes me want to run right over to some dirt nation, squabbling over religious stuff, blowing up as many civilians as they can with suicide bombs and more than happy to kidnap or gut a tourist, especially one from the USA. Just because I like the ambiance.

I think such folks figure their passports give them actual immunity from being shot to pieces.

And never let a little thing like a bloody civil war along with genocide get in the way of your walking or biking trip across the globe because your statement is more important than the little things like folks wantonly slaughtering each other. Tweet and blog about it as you go.


why the fark are you blaming America for something a Spanish citizen is responsible for?
 
2014-01-23 02:49:45 AM
This is a good test to see if yours is a first-world country. Do you have lawless, militant-held regions? Then you're out of luck.

/I guess our answer depends on how you define Michigan's detached peninsula.
 
2014-01-23 02:54:43 AM

GungFu: It doesn't matter where this happened.

The guy is a cyclist - of course, people will try to kill him. He's probably uploading some helmet-cam footage onto his blog as well speak.


I'm looking forward to his GoPro YouTube video.
 
2014-01-23 03:00:02 AM

bhcompy: Rik01: A message on Facebook said he intended to continue his trip from Europe on into Asia and the rest of the world.

It takes a special type of personality to go on one of these global bike trips -- for whatever freaking reason -- through war zones and just accept the fact that folks get their shiat blown away so you can make some kind of statement or record.

I still can't fathom the personality it takes for civilians from the USA to vacation in a war torn nation, knowing that the chances are very high that (A) civilians may get killed around them as insurgents try and knock off the Americans and (B) they may as well have targets on their backs.

Such folks usually gush about how they like the people, the food, the culture while they duck bullets, have to get security forces to escort them about and, on at least one occasion, had the car they were in riddled with bullets.

Yeah. Makes me want to run right over to some dirt nation, squabbling over religious stuff, blowing up as many civilians as they can with suicide bombs and more than happy to kidnap or gut a tourist, especially one from the USA. Just because I like the ambiance.

I think such folks figure their passports give them actual immunity from being shot to pieces.

And never let a little thing like a bloody civil war along with genocide get in the way of your walking or biking trip across the globe because your statement is more important than the little things like folks wantonly slaughtering each other. Tweet and blog about it as you go.

why the fark are you blaming America for something a Spanish citizen is responsible for?


Well, somebody commented he might be working for the CIA, so more than one person hasn't got the part about him being from Spain and not the US, even when he's identified as a "Spaniard".
 
2014-01-23 03:19:04 AM
There are bucket lists that may get your bucket kicked.
 
2014-01-23 03:54:24 AM

thismomentinblackhistory: I fear there will be another tragedy like the one at Nanga Parbat. So much bloodshed in such a staggeringly beautiful country.


I think that only applies to circus acrobats
 
2014-01-23 04:07:21 AM

Rik01: A message on Facebook said he intended to continue his trip from Europe on into Asia and the rest of the world.

It takes a special type of personality to go on one of these global bike trips -- for whatever freaking reason -- through war zones and just accept the fact that folks get their shiat blown away so you can make some kind of statement or record.

I still can't fathom the personality it takes for civilians from the USA to vacation in a war torn nation, knowing that the chances are very high that (A) civilians may get killed around them as insurgents try and knock off the Americans and (B) they may as well have targets on their backs.


When did the USA annex Spain and grant everyone there citizenship?
 
2014-01-23 04:11:24 AM

zimbomba63: bhcompy: Rik01: A message on Facebook said he intended to continue his trip from Europe on into Asia and the rest of the world.

It takes a special type of personality to go on one of these global bike trips -- for whatever freaking reason -- through war zones and just accept the fact that folks get their shiat blown away so you can make some kind of statement or record.

I still can't fathom the personality it takes for civilians from the USA to vacation in a war torn nation, knowing that the chances are very high that (A) civilians may get killed around them as insurgents try and knock off the Americans and (B) they may as well have targets on their backs.

Such folks usually gush about how they like the people, the food, the culture while they duck bullets, have to get security forces to escort them about and, on at least one occasion, had the car they were in riddled with bullets.

Yeah. Makes me want to run right over to some dirt nation, squabbling over religious stuff, blowing up as many civilians as they can with suicide bombs and more than happy to kidnap or gut a tourist, especially one from the USA. Just because I like the ambiance.

I think such folks figure their passports give them actual immunity from being shot to pieces.

And never let a little thing like a bloody civil war along with genocide get in the way of your walking or biking trip across the globe because your statement is more important than the little things like folks wantonly slaughtering each other. Tweet and blog about it as you go.

why the fark are you blaming America for something a Spanish citizen is responsible for?

Well, somebody commented he might be working for the CIA, so more than one person hasn't got the part about him being from Spain and not the US, even when he's identified as a "Spaniard".


Pssst.  Sometimes -- just every once in a while, see -- a certain agency (I won't say which one) might just hire a person who isn't an American.  You didn't hear it from me though.

*slinks away*
 
2014-01-23 04:14:57 AM
I'm betting he's a CIA operative. That's usually their cover story if one of their own end up getting captured, that the individual in question is just a dumb tourist.
 
2014-01-23 04:36:44 AM

Robert1966: This is a good test to see if yours is a first-world country. Do you have lawless, militant-held regions? Then you're out of luck.

/I guess our answer depends on how you define Michigan's detached peninsula.


www.blogcdn.com
 
2014-01-23 04:42:29 AM

RenownedCurator: I'm sure there are lots of gorgeous locations in Asia and the subcontinent where he wouldn't need to spend the night at the police station and need a dozen armed guards to make sure his trip didn't end in sudden death. It doesn't sound like he's exactly strapped for time. I'll go with him being a selfish, shortsighted ass, especially since he seems to be carrying on with the trip.

Incidentally, it shows just how thorough my knowledge of Pakistan is that my major association with Quetta is Kipling's poem "The Story of Uriah." Looks like the place hasn't gotten any healthier to be in over the last century and a half.


He didn't need to spend the night. <b> FTA:</b> He was "urged by the authorities" to spend the night at a local police station.

A buncha cops from Bumfark Pakistan stuck their beaks in somebody's biz and decided they needed to be involved AND DRAW A FARK-TON MORE ATTENTION TO THE DUDE. Huge laffs.

Typical cop "star f*ucker" mentality, I must add.
 
2014-01-23 05:08:02 AM
Big Ramifications:

A buncha  cops from Bumfark Pakistan stuck their beaks in somebody's biz and decided they needed to be involved AND DRAW A FARK-TON MORE ATTENTION TO THE DUDE. Huge laffs.

Typical cop "star f*ucker" mentality, I must add.

~

FTA: "Mr Colorado had arrived from Iran on Tuesday evening."

Holy crap, I didn't look at the map before. That c0cksucker has flown in from Iran, not trundled in on his bike past a lonely border checkpoint - as I had imagined.

He's on a plane-hopping bike trip thru DANGEROUS PLACES. What a wanker.
 
2014-01-23 06:07:43 AM

cman: fusillade762: Police say they do not know why Mr Colorado was cycling through such a dangerous area.

I'm going with "He's an idiot".

Do you say the same to rape victims?

If you are gonna blame the victim in this case might as well go all out


Whoever the victim is, if they walk through `firebomb alley` wearing a suit made from petrol then there is some thing you might expect to happen.

Your Alanology (Named after Alan the nazi troll - he godwins himself) had some merit if we match it to the situation.

The matching situation here is if the rape victim dragged the accused into an alley got naked and asked the accused to have sex with them, which they did and then reported them for rape.

He`s an idiot. Everyone seems amazed that people are letting him be *such* an idiot that he is getting other people killed now.

The `least damage` situation going forward is if this idiot gets himself killed as quick as possible so other people stop being killed trying to keep him alive.

You don`t need to actively kill them but stop keeping them alive at the cost of others...
 
2014-01-23 06:32:17 AM
A message on Facebook said he intended to continue his trip

I don't care if people die. I'm a douchebag cyclist and my sight seeing trip is more important than that.
 
2014-01-23 06:49:20 AM

abhorrent1: A message on Facebook said he intended to continue his trip

I don't care if people die. I'm a douchebag cyclist and my sight seeing trip is more important than that.


Yeh, best to just stop and render their deaths meaningless.

He's through the worst of it, the only remaining potential problem facing him is that his route takes him to Pankot.
 
2014-01-23 06:56:00 AM

bangmaid: Why the f*ck do bicyclists in Chicago everywhere go down one way streets the wrong way? Follow the rules of the road, assholes.

 
2014-01-23 06:56:19 AM
Laughs, says something witty, and hops a train to the Indian Border...

www.tvscoop.tv
 
2014-01-23 06:58:11 AM
Sure subby, blame the victim.
 
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