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(Wikipedia)   Happy Birthday, Roe v. Wade. Okay, let me rephrase that. Today marks the 41st anniversary of the landmark Roe v. Wade decision   (en.wikipedia.org) divider line 53
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2014-01-22 04:44:59 PM  
8 votes:
I dnc that coming!
2014-01-22 06:38:08 PM  
3 votes:

EbolaNYC: Whew, I just turned 43.. MADE IT!


I'm 40.  I know my mother wanted me; you will always have to wonder...

;P
2014-01-22 06:04:21 PM  
3 votes:
I've had 9 abortions already. Just need to get one more to complete my rewards card and the 11th is free!
2014-01-22 02:22:27 PM  
3 votes:

FlashHarry: here's to 4+ decades of empowering progressive women and enraging conservative men.


And lowering crime!
2014-01-22 06:18:12 PM  
2 votes:

ikanreed: Callous: You're aware that conception is not documented and often times not known right? Or are you just talking out your arse?

Hmm, and yet... you think there's a person in there? Nobody knows it, but there's there's a human being!



Schrodinger's baby!
2014-01-22 06:11:42 PM  
2 votes:

TheShavingofOccam123: theknuckler_33: I don't get the headline.:(

don't worry. the headline is an abortion.

/birthdays...abortions...military...intelligence...


ooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

/hangs head in shame
2014-01-22 06:10:55 PM  
2 votes:

Callous: TheShavingofOccam123: genner: Either it's murder or it's not. Choice shouldn't be the issue.

Either it's only the woman's business or it's not. Political power to subject citizens to the whims of the majority shouldn't be the issue.

Either it's a living human being or it isn't.  Where it's physically located shouldn't be the issue.


You wouldn't say that if it was me living inside your body.
I got nasty habits.
2014-01-22 06:04:33 PM  
2 votes:
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2014-01-22 06:01:10 PM  
2 votes:

letrole: Abortion is Murder.


I thought abortion is a learned behaviour. But considering the outcome, the student never gets to practice what they've learned, I guess.
2014-01-22 05:51:25 PM  
2 votes:
Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others!
2014-01-22 05:47:28 PM  
2 votes:
Abortion is Murder.
2014-01-22 05:46:01 PM  
2 votes:

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: In many cases, abortion is the responsible choice.


The white zone is still only for the loading and unloading of passengers, Tom.
2014-01-22 05:41:57 PM  
2 votes:

Theaetetus: TheShavingofOccam123: I think you'd be surprised at the number of GOP women and daughters who fly off to Tucson and other places around the country for simple procedures.

Then shouldn't they call it Oneson?


"Any man who would make a pun, would not scruple to cut a purse."
 Samuel Johnson
-Rand Paul
2014-01-22 04:51:01 PM  
2 votes:

vernonFL: I dnc that coming!


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2014-01-22 02:10:03 PM  
2 votes:

FlashHarry: here's to 4+ decades of empowering progressive women and enraging conservative men.


B....B...B....BUT SMALL GOVERNMENT!
2014-01-22 01:53:50 PM  
2 votes:
here's to 4+ decades of empowering progressive women and enraging conservative men.
2014-01-24 01:56:27 AM  
1 votes:

demaL-demaL-yeH: Pincy: InterruptingQuirk: Pincy: John Buck 41: Pincy: Al!: Why does the female get the only say in whether the baby gets a chance or not?

Do you seriously not know the answer to this question?  Really?

After reading Al!s post that you replied to, I'd say he has a legitimate gripe. But hey, you go ahead and call he and I 'anti-woman/woman haters' if it makes you feel better. Nothing could be further from the truth.

So you don't know the answer to that question either.  Good to know.

Because the U.S. Supreme Court said she does, and they have upheld that ruling being challenged a few different ways. Make that of it what you will, I'm not adding my personal bias to that fact.

Forget the law for a second and answer this using the perspective of a decent human being.  Why would the woman get the last say in whether she has an abortion or not?

Because it is her body, not yours. And because a fetus is neither a child nor a person.
And a male is not a parent of a fetus, but may be the parent of a child. These are not the same.


is it ok if i just consider you a large fetus?
Al!
2014-01-23 05:11:29 PM  
1 votes:

hardinparamedic: Al!: As a man who recently conceived a child intentionally with a woman who wanted to have my baby, who then dumped me and aborted my child: Fark you RvW, and Fark everyone who says a man should have no say in the matter.

And fark you, Sir, as a man who thinks that women have the basic human right to not be forced to be an incubating meatsack for a fetus.


No one forced her to do anything.  It was her idea to begin with, and she was "twsiting my arm" on the matter.  I consented because you have to take someone at their word and I thought we were on the right course.  I still don't know where the relationship went wrong, but I will never agree that she had a right to terminate my child without even consulting me.  Had it been for health reasons, more power to her, but we talked about it for over a month before we decided to go through with it and there were no health concerns.  It wasn't kneejerk, and it wasn't coerced.  She wanted a baby and she wanted me to be the father.  When I finally consented to the idea, I was all in.  I don't take choices like that lightly.

To the many others who responded (I'm not going page for page and picking out every response to rebut,) I'm not whining.  I spent almost 3 months with the mindset that I was going to be a father, then I had to pry the information out of her that she was no longer pregnant... on Christmas Eve.  Had I not bothered to ask her, I still likely would not know.  She was acting like she was still with child as soon as the Monday prior to my asking, despite the pregnancy being over sometime in early November.  I am happy that I know who she is now (I was positive I knew her before, but with no one to tell me one way or another, I have to take her word) and that I don't have to deal with her for the rest of my life, but I will never be happy that the child that I made never had a fair and honest shot at life, simply because his/her mother didn't want the hassle.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for freedom of choice, I just think that the man should have some say in the matter if he wants.  Pregnancy isn't a spontaneous health issue that arises from unknown means.  It takes male and female input.  Why does the female get the only say in whether the baby gets a chance or not?  I would have willingly taken my child off of her hands and raised it myself if she didn't want it, and I was already committing myself to ensuring she was financially and physically stable for the prenancy.
2014-01-23 04:40:02 PM  
1 votes:

another cultural observer: InterruptingQuirk: ciberido: InterruptingQuirk: ciberido: InterruptingQuirk: Man and woman have consensual sex. Unintended pregnancy occurs. Man does not want child. Woman decides to keep it. Woman has child. Man now obligated to mother and child. Woman had choice man did not. She had the option after conception. Her choice affected the man. The man can do nothing about this choice. Why does he not have a choice to not support her choice?(double negative, I know) Basically, why doesn't he have the right to become a deadbeat dad?

Because, in a word, biology.

As has been said already in this thread, come up with a way a man can carry a baby to term, or better yet, an artificial womb so that the fetus can grow into a baby without needing to be inside anyone's body, and then we'll talk about men's rights and "financial abortion."

Until then, it's just tough cookies, I'm afraid.

So it's tough cookies for men, but not for women?


You're not really this stupid.  Stop pretending.

Please don't be disparaging about this.

The liberty that some women have always wanted has been attained. Yet the liberty of men has not come with it.

In most two-party contracts, the right to cancel is reserved under the condition that both parties consent.

Under the current system, Party Her has the right to cancel without consent of Party Him for whatever condition Party Her wishes.

Party Him has no condition under which to cancel the contract or his involvement with it.

Impossibility of Performance should allow Party Him to cancel the contract, but there has been a violation of this recourse based on motivators which were previously deemed as irrelevant in the case of Party her's reasons for canceling.

Contracts are voidable if mistake occurs. An unintended pregnancy is a mistake.

Contracts are voidable if one of the parties was incapacitated at the time of entering into the contract. Being under the influence could render one incapacitated according to the law.

Prior Agreement should suffice in thi ...

Each party has an undivided 1/2 interest in the fetus (and, thereafter, the child).  Under the current system, the mother can work a summary forfeiture on the father's undivided half interest in the event she chooses to abort.  Equity therefore demands that the male should be able to "quit claim" his interest in the fetus entirely over to the mother, divesting himself of any interest or liability thereto, in the event she chooses to keep the child.  If the mother has the unilateral right to a medical abortion, the father should have the right to an equitable abortion in the form of a fetal quit claim option.


You're forgetting the overriding legal principle, which is that women must be absolved of all responsibity for their actions and sustenance, and all rules must be written so as to give women the widest possible range of consequence-free options regardless of the prejudice that such a system may cause for men or children.

Because reasons. And because of corsets, 100 years ago.

Sisters may be doing it for themselves, but don't expect them to act like grown-ups, you unreconstructed Neanderthal.
2014-01-23 01:13:08 PM  
1 votes:

demaL-demaL-yeH: You know, where a woman consented to pregnancy



I'd love to see the contract where the man consented to fatherhood.


Society has an interest in men providing for their children, that is the only rational reason against the "terminating fatherhood" concept. All the others are either personal or emotional.
2014-01-22 10:54:46 PM  
1 votes:

The My Little Pony Killer: That Guy Jeff: No, they just prioritize "right to live" over "right to control your own body".

No, they are prioritizing one "person's" right to live over another person's right to live. This is so completely about controlling women no matter how many times you try to spin it around in this thread.


The vast majorities of pregnancies aren't life threatening. Your statements would only be valid if the mother died whenever a child was born. In the extremely rare event where that's the case, then yes, they would be prioritizing the life of one person over the life of another. I'm willing to bet that scenario would be significantly less contentious if the "main" issue wasn't so contentious. But for the vast majority of abortions, you're simply wrong: they are prioritizing the life of one human over the "body rights" of another, not the life of another. Let's be honest, it's 3-6 months of being crazy inconvenienced and hormonal and fat, but it's rarely ever in the same ballpark as "being dead".

Now remember, I'm pro-choice. But I'm also pro-accurate information and believe that making up crazy positions for your "enemies" doesn't help solve anything. You know that whole "divided country" thing? You're directly contributing to that by insisting on changing their goal of "stop what we think are murders" to your conspiracy of "the patriarchy is trying to control womyn!" Maybe my view of the matter is just really slanted by the fact that I know far more women who are pro-life than men. And the only dude I know who is pro-life isn't religious and would otherwise be considered a feminist. He just thinks fetuses are alive, and they are human, thus it's wrong to kill them for any reason other than "to save another life", even if that means some other rights have to be compromised. I'm OK with him thinking that, too. It's not an unreasonable position. It's ultimately wrong, but it's not unreasonable. As this is nominally a democracy with all it's crazy "you don't have to agree but you do have to compromise" rules, I'm not going to fault him or anyone else for that position. Ideally (discarding all pragmatism) we would live in anarchy where "if you don't like _____, just don't get one/buy one/see one/read one/pay for one/etc" would be the ultimate rule. But alas, pragmatism requires we band together and have to live with rules we don't like and compromised and reduced rights and endlessly debate really ethically complicated situations in which both side have perfectly valid points.
2014-01-22 10:32:39 PM  
1 votes:

Dusk-You-n-Me: I did answer.


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2014-01-22 10:30:45 PM  
1 votes:
Subby, that headline is beautiful. It's kinda subtle though, maybe Happy Birth-Day ?
2014-01-22 09:53:51 PM  
1 votes:

ciberido: Callous: TheShavingofOccam123: genner: Either it's murder or it's not. Choice shouldn't be the issue.

Either it's only the woman's business or it's not. Political power to subject citizens to the whims of the majority shouldn't be the issue.

Either it's a living human being or it isn't.  Where it's physically located shouldn't be the issue.

So if you were kidnapped one day and woke up to find yourself in some sort of hospital bed hooked up to a machine and told you couldn't leave the room or detach yourself from the machine for the next 9 months (and that a person would die if you did). you'd just say "ok, well, I guess I'm stuck here" then?  You would feel morally obligated to stay, so much so that you would consider it murder to leave the room?


i18.photobucket.com
2014-01-22 09:51:03 PM  
1 votes:

Dusk-You-n-Me: InterruptingQuirk: Men should have an out

Not having sex. That's their out.


So abortion is unnecessary then. If women don't want to have babies, then they shouldn't have sex.
2014-01-22 08:44:16 PM  
1 votes:

hardinparamedic: genner: Either it's murder or it's not. Choice shouldn't be the issue.

Murder implies it's unlawful by definition. Since it isn't, it is therefor not murder. :)


try telling that to a trayvon supporter.
2014-01-22 08:34:30 PM  
1 votes:
Never underestimate the eagerness of Fark posters to turn a thread about abortion into a thread about the rights of men.
2014-01-22 08:20:17 PM  
1 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: TheShavingofOccam123: you'd be surprised at the number of GOP women and daughters who fly off to Tucson and other places around the country for simple procedures

THEIR abortion is different from all those other whores out there getting abortions.  And you can bet they'll be back at the clinic the next day, protesting the procedure they just had.


The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion: When the Anti-Choice Choose

There's also  My Abortion Was Different: Why Women Shame and Blame Each Other, but it's not quite as interesting to read.
2014-01-22 08:18:57 PM  
1 votes:

Loadmaster: Chicken embryo → Chicken
Elephant embryo → Elephant
Dolphin embryo → Dolphin
Polar Bear embryo → Polar Bear
Spotted Owl embryo → Spotted Owl
Human embryo → Human Clump of cells


Whoa, get the party line straight or they'll make fun of you.
2014-01-22 08:15:28 PM  
1 votes:

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: As a function of biology rather than law, the pregnant person is always female, so it is nonsensical to talk about men having rights in this area, "unequal" or otherwise


Men make up some ground on the rights tally with additional rights to testicular and prostate cancer treatments.

But then women are back in the race with assorted ovarian-related diseases.

I'd have to look up a list of gender-related diseases to get a final score on who has more rights.
2014-01-22 07:35:29 PM  
1 votes:

Phinn: I'd be willing to throw in a free car to any woman who's getting an abortion and also agrees to a tubal ligation.

Every woman should have the right to have sex without fear of pregnancy, after all. And have a car of her own.


I'm conflicted between the crass cynicism of your proposal and the considerable social benefits it would confer.
Some pepole just talk about improving the gene pool.
You, sir, have a plan!
2014-01-22 07:20:49 PM  
1 votes:

InterruptingQuirk: That answer means what?


The law, in its majestic equality, allows men as well as women to abort their fetuses.
2014-01-22 06:54:30 PM  
1 votes:

InterruptingQuirk: They both unzipped their pants as you put it. And yet she gets a followup opportunity to discard the responsibility, while he does not because as you say, he made his choice(the only one he gets)same as she did, but that's it for him.


Now that is some straight up thinking.  I mean, wow.  Brain power in action here!  Hope you guys are watching and learning!
2014-01-22 06:47:29 PM  
1 votes:
geez..,  liveactionnews.org
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2014-01-22 06:44:15 PM  
1 votes:

Death Whisper: [www.nationalblackprolifeunion.com image 352x356][saynsumthn.files.wordpress.com image 636x477]


But I thought your kind wanted them all dead...
2014-01-22 06:42:54 PM  
1 votes:
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2014-01-22 06:39:51 PM  
1 votes:

Al!: As a man who recently conceived a child intentionally with a woman who wanted to have my baby, who then dumped me and aborted my child: Fark you RvW, and Fark everyone who says a man should have no say in the matter.


She divorced you and still had time to get an abortion?
2014-01-22 06:25:37 PM  
1 votes:

Al!: As a man who recently conceived a child intentionally with a woman who wanted to have my baby, who then dumped me and aborted my child: Fark you RvW, and Fark everyone who says a man should have no say in the matter.


Keep your dick in your pants in the presence of untrustworthy women in future. You just dodged a 16" artillary shell, and you should be thanking Jesus every day.
Al!
2014-01-22 06:19:54 PM  
1 votes:
As a man who recently conceived a child intentionally with a woman who wanted to have my baby, who then dumped me and aborted my child: Fark you RvW, and Fark everyone who says a man should have no say in the matter.
2014-01-22 06:17:04 PM  
1 votes:

Callous: You're aware that conception is not documented and often times not known right? Or are you just talking out your arse?


Hmm, and yet... you think there's a person in there? Nobody knows it, but there's there's a human being!
2014-01-22 06:12:33 PM  
1 votes:

TheShavingofOccam123: Callous: TheShavingofOccam123: genner: Either it's murder or it's not. Choice shouldn't be the issue.

Either it's only the woman's business or it's not. Political power to subject citizens to the whims of the majority shouldn't be the issue.

Either it's a living human being or it isn't.  Where it's physically located shouldn't be the issue.

You better get busy. Climbing into every vajayjay in this country is gonna take a lot of your time. Or are you one of those who supports shaming pregnant women by forcing doctors to rape their patients with wands in order to dissuade them from having an abortion?

I mean, if your against something you should take responsibility and not pawn it off on some poor schlep md who's six figures in debt from med school and just wants to make his/her mortgage payment, not poke things inside patients against their will.


Nice strawman.

ikanreed: The very fact that we celebrate our birthdays and not our conception days shows how unnatural and out of sync with day-to-day reality the anti-abortion crowd's opinion is.


You're aware that conception is not documented and often times not known right?  Or are you just talking out your arse?
2014-01-22 05:58:57 PM  
1 votes:
That does it, cancel the rest of the year. That's the HOTY winner.
2014-01-22 05:57:06 PM  
1 votes:
55 million people lost to a socialist, eugenics experiment (killed by their mothers in many cases, no less). Social Security and other Federal entitlement programs are going backrupt because, in part, these folks aren't available to contribute to these political slush funds. Coincidence? I think it's possible.

This might be an anniversary of horror; it's certainly not a birthday to celebrate.
2014-01-22 05:53:11 PM  
1 votes:
Why did caviar sue Dwyane Wade in the first place?
2014-01-22 05:49:46 PM  
1 votes:

genner: Either it's murder or it's not. Choice shouldn't be the issue.


Murder implies it's unlawful by definition. Since it isn't, it is therefor not murder. :)
2014-01-22 05:48:22 PM  
1 votes:
You've helped to make movie theaters a little less noisy. Thank you for that.
2014-01-22 05:43:57 PM  
1 votes:

Mouser: And keeping the population of the lesser breeds in check.


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2014-01-22 05:42:43 PM  
1 votes:
And now Obamacare is going to make it even better.

Mandatory abortions for republican women, AND death panels for grandma? I CAN'T WAIT TO BE A PART OF THE EVIL JACKBOOT ARMY!
2014-01-22 05:39:32 PM  
1 votes:

TheShavingofOccam123: I think you'd be surprised at the number of GOP women and daughters who fly off to Tucson and other places around the country for simple procedures.


Then shouldn't they call it Oneson?
2014-01-22 05:05:21 PM  
1 votes:
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2014-01-22 04:39:21 PM  
1 votes:
I read something a while back discussing how the democratic party/liberals have effectively eliminated 35-50+ million people from their voting base because of abortion.  The argument that was being made/based on is the idea that liberals have a tendency to have abortions more than conservatives...so aborting their kids = elimination of their voter base.

Not sure how accurate this speculation is, but interesting to think about nonetheless.
2014-01-22 04:29:12 PM  
1 votes:
to Submitter :

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2014-01-22 02:15:47 PM  
1 votes:
Holy sh*t, that headline took me a minute.
 
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