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(The Wire)   In an effort to show how much he hates the law, Rep. Louie Gohmert, (Pyle-TX), a married, 60-year old, man with a negative net worth, has announced he's going to go without health insurance altogether rather than get it through Obamacare   (thewire.com) divider line 103
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2014-01-22 12:40:16 PM  
crow202.org
 
2014-01-22 12:47:33 PM  
And not a single f*ck was given that day
 
2014-01-22 12:48:16 PM  
So we're one bad flu away from solving our Louie Gohmert problem.
 
2014-01-22 12:51:13 PM  
Come on heart attack, come on...
 
2014-01-22 12:59:44 PM  
Good.  What he apparently fails to realize is that the whole concept of insurance is risk pooling and risk spreading, so that the best risks pay more than their actuarially-indicated premium rates in order to subsidize a lower-than-actuarially-indicated premium for the worst risks, who would never be able to afford to pay the "true" actuarial rate for their own bad risk group.  So if every way-too-old-to-be-in-great-health-but-not-quite-old-enough-for-Medicar e idiot like him didn't enroll in a health insurance plan, it would significantly drive down health insurance costs for everyone else, since the pool of insureds in the lower-risk demographics (i.e., everyone but his group) wouldn't have to subsidize the rates for the highest-risk demographic (i.e., his group).

Plus, as a bonus, it would thin the herd of old right-wing retards, which can't be a bad thing.
 
2014-01-22 01:05:18 PM  
Since Obamacare isn't just a takeover of health insurance, but a complete government takeover of the entire healthcare system, he really needs to go without any healthcare at all. No doctor visits, no medication, no Depends®, nothing.. not even an aspirin.

Anything less is condoning socialism and tantamount to treason.
 
2014-01-22 01:34:45 PM  
Neddy doesn't believe in insurance. He considers it a form of gambling.
 
2014-01-22 01:35:35 PM  
Okay then. Glad to see him practicing his right as an American.

Moving on.

Has anyone noticed the price of gas these days?
 
2014-01-22 01:38:16 PM  
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2014-01-22 01:38:58 PM  
Ooooh, a lapse in coverage? Good luck getting re-insured should you repeal Obamacare, dumbass.
 
2014-01-22 01:39:53 PM  
I'm sure Rand Paul would be glad to do a humour rebalancing for just a few Rhode Island Reds, and probably would throw in a phlogiston screening.
 
2014-01-22 01:41:11 PM  
FTFA: He has a wife. Did anyone ask Kathy Gohmert if she minded not having insurance? At 59, she's also more at risk for several illnesses. At 59, she's also more at risk for several illnesses.  According to Gohmert's most recent financial disclosure, Mrs. Gohmert is gainfully employed with the Christian Women's Job Corps.

Hope he has insurance through his wife. I sure don't want any huge hospital bills for indigent care.
 
2014-01-22 01:41:44 PM  
You know how I know he doesn't know what the ACA actually is and does...
 
2014-01-22 01:42:39 PM  

Somacandra: FTFA: He has a wife. Did anyone ask Kathy Gohmert if she minded not having insurance? At 59, she's also more at risk for several illnesses. At 59, she's also more at risk for several illnesses.  According to Gohmert's most recent financial disclosure, Mrs. Gohmert is gainfully employed with the Christian Women's Job Corps.

Hope he has insurance through his wife. I sure don't want any huge hospital bills for indigent care.


As a fine moral republican he will do the right thing and die in agony on the steps of the emergency room.
 
2014-01-22 01:47:11 PM  
Louie Gohmert, liar, or idiot?

FTA:  "I couldn't afford to go up four or five times what I was paying and double my deductible, and so I'm better off with just setting money aside for health care and paying the penalty." Even with a employer subsidy of $950 (which he refused) Gohmert says he still would be paying more than he was before, for a higher deductible.

The 4 or 5 times what he was paying was absolutely assuming he didn't get the employer subsidy, which, of course, he refused simply to make his argument sound better.  He got the employer subsidy before Obamacare, but he didn't refuse it then.
 
2014-01-22 01:49:32 PM  

Heliovdrake: You know how I know he doesn't know what the ACA actually is and does...


Still you have to admire his Titanic efforts in the preserves the English vernacular.  As an entire generation has passed since mass audiences were exposed to even Reruns of Jim Nabor's immortal character Gomer Pyle, the use of the term "Gomer" to denote an incredibly stupid person had all but passed from the language.   Now, with only the slightest change in spelling, if not pronunciation, it can be restored to the full flower of its glory days
 
2014-01-22 01:55:06 PM  
Good luck with that...
 
2014-01-22 01:58:10 PM  

Magorn: As an entire generation has passed since mass audiences were exposed to even Reruns of Jim Nabor's immortal character Gomer Pyle, the use of the term "Gomer" to denote an incredibly stupid person had all but passed from the language.


wsmv.images.worldnow.com

Wut?
 
2014-01-22 02:14:53 PM  
I'm baffled by this situation.  His old plan was 80% cheaper with half the deductible, so it wasn't even a catastrophic plan.  This just sounds like bull sh*t to me, and coming from an anti-Obamacare crusader that sorta fits the bill.  However, he may be telling the truth...

So I went to healthcare.gov and entered his details for Smith Co., TX.  Bronze plans range from $342/mo + $5K deductible to $484/mo + $3750 deductible.  Meaning that he was paying $85/mo with a $2500 deductible for a full-coverage plan.

Riiiiiighht.
 
2014-01-22 02:22:17 PM  

Heliovdrake: You know how I know he doesn't know what the ACA actually is and does...


Easy. He's a Republican.
 
433 [TotalFark]
2014-01-22 02:24:00 PM  
He's not even eligible for the ACA, is he?
 
2014-01-22 02:25:40 PM  
A December poll found that 45 percent of uninsured Republicans would rather stay uninsured than get Obamacare.

DO EEEET!
 
2014-01-22 02:26:09 PM  

Cyberluddite: Good.  What he apparently fails to realize is that the whole concept of insurance is risk pooling and risk spreading, so that the best risks pay more than their actuarially-indicated premium rates in order to subsidize a lower-than-actuarially-indicated premium for the worst risks, who would never be able to afford to pay the "true" actuarial rate for their own bad risk group.  So if every way-too-old-to-be-in-great-health-but-not-quite-old-enough-for-Medicar e idiot like him didn't enroll in a health insurance plan, it would significantly drive down health insurance costs for everyone else, since the pool of insureds in the lower-risk demographics (i.e., everyone but his group) wouldn't have to subsidize the rates for the highest-risk demographic (i.e., his group).

Plus, as a bonus, it would thin the herd of old right-wing retards, which can't be a bad thing.


Except that as soon he finds out he has prostate cancer or he has a heart attack he will buy insurance through the exchanges and benefit from the fact that a pre-existing condition can no longer jack up his rates to an unaffordable amount.

It's a no risk, grandstanding gesture for Gohmert.
 
2014-01-22 02:26:13 PM  
FTA:   "I couldn't afford to go up four or five times what I was paying and double my deductible, and so I'm better off with just setting money aside for health care and paying the penalty." Even with a employer subsidy of $950 (which he refused) Gohmert says he still would be paying more than he was before, for a higher deductible.

img.fark.net
 
2014-01-22 02:28:36 PM  
Nature has a funny way of thinning out the herd.
 
2014-01-22 02:29:45 PM  
Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) on Tuesday said that judges who have struck down state bans on same-sex marriage, like those in Utah and Oklahoma, need "basic plumbing lessons."

From 1 week ago on Fark.

It's like a zoo full of lobotomized brain-damaged lemurs, but he is the one that requires special attention.
 
2014-01-22 02:29:48 PM  

Richard C Stanford: Come on heart attack, come on...


I feel like a horrible person for wishing many, many of the usual and unusual ailments on this man.


//then I remembered that I AM a horrible person.
///it's all good

OH, and from the comments:
In the cultural consciousness, as a synonym for stupid "Gohmert" is rapidly replacing "Gomer" as the memory of Jim Nabor's immortal character fades from popular memory and Louie is splashed up on our screens every day reminding us just how stupid he is.
 
2014-01-22 02:31:17 PM  

ToastmasterGeneral: Louie Gohmert, liar, or idiot?

FTA:  "I couldn't afford to go up four or five times what I was paying and double my deductible, and so I'm better off with just setting money aside for health care and paying the penalty." Even with a employer subsidy of $950 (which he refused) Gohmert says he still would be paying more than he was before, for a higher deductible.

The 4 or 5 times what he was paying was absolutely assuming he didn't get the employer subsidy, which, of course, he refused simply to make his argument sound better.  He got the employer subsidy before Obamacare, but he didn't refuse it then.


You also forget that before this year, he was allowed to buy insurance through the FEHBP. Insurance companies cannot charge different premiums based on age in that program versus the 3:1 ratio allowed on the exchanges. That has a bigger impact than him "giving up" the employer contribution.
 
2014-01-22 02:31:50 PM  

433: He's not even eligible for the ACA, is he?


How would he not be?  He's not covered by employer-based insurance (Congress voted themselves out of the Federal Employee plan), even though you can buy unsubsidized exchange insurance even if your employer does provide coverage. There's no cap on what kind of income you can make or assets you can have and buy into an exchange plan.  He's clearly making too much to qualify for subsidies, but other than that?
 
2014-01-22 02:35:35 PM  
Sounds as if you're casting aspersions on his asparagus, subby.

You have my blessing to continue.
 
2014-01-22 02:35:39 PM  
Stupid face. I'm going to cut off its nose. That'll show it.
 
2014-01-22 02:36:09 PM  
I wonder if this includes his gold-plated Congressional health care plan? Does it apply to his staffers or only to him and his family? Because it does, he's losing some sweet taxpayer-paid health care benefits for life.

Also, I wonder if he voted for or against the bill to remove the exemption that Obama generously gave Congressional employers from HIS health care bill. No Republicans voted for Obamacare, so one would expect them to be honest and fair and not accept an exemption for themselves and theirs.

Because if he hates health insurance so much, he might want to support giving it to congress critters and their minions and NOT exempting them and himself from the plan he's protesting.

And then, of course, there's the question of how a man with negative net worth can afford free health care, let alone the private paid kind. A lot of people eligible for Medicare and Medicaid have a hard time seeing a doctor any way because they can't afford time off work or travel costs, etc.

Also, I wonder how he feels about forced insurance for motorists, or forcing people who want a mortgage to ensure their lives, etc., so the bankers don't lose any money. Or ...

But then, as the poet said:

Nobody was ever meant
To remember or invent
What they did
With every cent.

Unless you are dealing with the IRS.
 
2014-01-22 02:37:19 PM  

ToastmasterGeneral: Louie Gohmert, liar, or idiot?


I think he's mentally ill.

The sad part?  Degrees from Texas A&M and Baylor.

The scary part?  Lots of people in Texas love him and think the world needs more like him.

It honestly blows my mind.
 
2014-01-22 02:37:26 PM  

SisterMaryElephant: Richard C Stanford: Come on heart attack, come on...

I feel like a horrible person for wishing many, many of the usual and unusual ailments on this man.


//then I remembered that I AM a horrible person.
///it's all good

OH, and from the comments:
In the cultural consciousness, as a synonym for stupid "Gohmert" is rapidly replacing "Gomer" as the memory of Jim Nabor's immortal character fades from popular memory and Louie is splashed up on our screens every day reminding us just how stupid he is.


lol THIS
 
2014-01-22 02:37:32 PM  

Heliovdrake: You know how I know he doesn't know what the ACA actually is and does...


Because he's a congressman, and none of them read the farking thing?
 
2014-01-22 02:38:59 PM  
Hey, Louie-

I heard the ACA also mandates inhalation of 78% N2, 21% O2 (and other trace gases, like 1% argon, but I think the law allows us to round up to a 78/22 mix), followed by exhalation of CO2, and that this recommendedation is for this to be done CONSTANTLY. It's like the socialists in Washington care NOT A WHIT for the freedom of lungs granted by the Constitution.

I recommend you do your part to staunch the flow of tyrannies emanating from Pennsylvania Ave and refuse to kowtow to Big Air's lackeys in the Democrat Party.
 
2014-01-22 02:39:29 PM  

433: He's not even eligible for the ACA, is he?


He SHOULDN'T be, as it wasn;t desinged for him but thanks to an Amendment Chuck Grassley tacked on to the ACA, all Congressmen and their staff have to now get thier insurance through the ACA exchanges  (the "special treatment" for congressmen you keep hearing about is  their employer giving them the same subsidy to buy insurance on the exchange as they used to pay when they got benefits in the regular federal group pool)
 
2014-01-22 02:40:04 PM  
Fine then.
 
2014-01-22 02:40:10 PM  
He has access to free clinics at the Capitol and free hospital care at any military hospital in the DC area.
 
2014-01-22 02:41:52 PM  

433: He's not even eligible for the ACA, is he?


after his next major health problems, perhaps he will be...

/it's how I got poor :(
 
2014-01-22 02:42:17 PM  
It's always tricky trying to get that third nail pounded in properly.
 
2014-01-22 02:43:35 PM  

brantgoose: I wonder if this includes his gold-plated Congressional health care plan?


Do you mean the one that he doesn't get anymore? The one that the fact that he doesn't get anymore is the entire reason any of this is happening?
 
2014-01-22 02:46:09 PM  
All you guys are deriding the Obamacare haters like Louie Gohmert. Do I need to point out that as a profession it seems to pay pretty dam well for not doing much? Now who is the dumass?
 
2014-01-22 02:47:04 PM  

red5ish: It's always tricky trying to get that third nail pounded in properly.


*snert*
 
2014-01-22 02:47:31 PM  
Not to be morbid, but now is the time to really be vigilant about screenings.

Bullshiat. Cockroaches like Gohmert will persist long after you and I are gone, friend.
 
2014-01-22 02:49:15 PM  
Oh sure now he does it when Obamacare protects his insurability.
 
2014-01-22 02:50:52 PM  

AntiNerd: Now who is the dumass?


Give me a minute.
 
2014-01-22 02:51:40 PM  
The fact that at age 60 he has $65K worth of loans for his "child's" education speaks volumes about the type of human he raised. Don't Texans usually have their kids at age 15 or so?  That means he is carrying a loan for a 45 YO who is too much of a loser to step up.

No wonder he is such a spiteful, petulant dick-head.
 
2014-01-22 02:54:31 PM  
Even with a employer subsidy of $950 (which he refused)

Fark off asshole.  You want to refuse almost a thousand dollars to help pay for your health insurance and then try to get our sympathy.  I will not shed a tear if you happen to die because of your lack of health insurance (although I am most certain that you do have health insurance, probably through your wife's employer and you are just a grandstanding douchebag).
 
2014-01-22 02:54:46 PM  
Go Go Gadget Bubonic Plague!
 
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