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(Some Guy)   Liberal blogger declares Hillary has already won the 2016 elections because *spins wheel* Bill Kristol said she won't. Actually, that's pretty solid logic   (freethoughtblogs.com) divider line 93
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2014-01-22 01:32:33 PM  
Well...

lh5.googleusercontent.com
 
2014-01-22 01:40:11 PM  
So what's this person's Fark account.
 
2014-01-22 01:40:29 PM  
What does Rove think?
 
2014-01-22 01:49:24 PM  
It really kind of is, but we need just a few more GOP never-rights to confirm.

If Krauthammer says she wont run and wont win, then Im putting all my money on Her.
 
2014-01-22 02:08:19 PM  
I sure hope we can find somebody better by then. I've had enough of the Neolibs. Would love to see a true progressive run.
 
2014-01-22 02:29:06 PM  
That's more like gambling than reason, but whatevs.
 
2014-01-22 02:31:53 PM  

quickdraw: I sure hope we can find somebody better by then. I've had enough of the Neolibs. Would love to see a true progressive run.


This guy, with Anthony Weiner.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-01-22 02:33:10 PM  

quickdraw: I sure hope we can find somebody better by then. I've had enough of the Neolibs. Would love to see a true progressive run.


I would just he moderate bar to get put back where it belongs instead of being pulled so far right.
 
2014-01-22 02:45:16 PM  

Etchy333: quickdraw: I sure hope we can find somebody better by then. I've had enough of the Neolibs. Would love to see a true progressive run.

This guy, with Anthony Weiner.

[i.imgur.com image 640x428]


A dick and a guy who can't keep his in his pants.
 
2014-01-22 02:50:20 PM  

Etchy333: quickdraw: I sure hope we can find somebody better by then. I've had enough of the Neolibs. Would love to see a true progressive run.

This guy, with Anthony Weiner.

[i.imgur.com image 640x428]


I ashamedly must admit that I liked both those guys as politicians.
 
2014-01-22 02:53:41 PM  

mrshowrules: Etchy333: quickdraw: I sure hope we can find somebody better by then. I've had enough of the Neolibs. Would love to see a true progressive run.

This guy, with Anthony Weiner.

[i.imgur.com image 640x428]

I ashamedly must admit that I liked both those guys as politicians.


And I would imagine like many of us who did, it was only up to a certain point.
 
2014-01-22 02:57:47 PM  

mrshowrules: Etchy333: quickdraw: I sure hope we can find somebody better by then. I've had enough of the Neolibs. Would love to see a true progressive run.

This guy, with Anthony Weiner.

[i.imgur.com image 640x428]

I ashamedly must admit that I liked both those guys as politicians.


Part of the reason I chose them is that I imagine they have hit "peak scandal" in their personal lives, so they are essentially invincible against anything else that could come out about them.
 
2014-01-22 02:59:30 PM  

Etchy333: mrshowrules: Etchy333: quickdraw: I sure hope we can find somebody better by then. I've had enough of the Neolibs. Would love to see a true progressive run.

This guy, with Anthony Weiner.

[i.imgur.com image 640x428]

I ashamedly must admit that I liked both those guys as politicians.

Part of the reason I chose them is that I imagine they have hit "peak scandal" in their personal lives, so they are essentially invincible against anything else that could come out about them.


I see Carlos Danger as a potential rapist.  Also, I could imagine Edwards having someone killed for messing his hair.
 
2014-01-22 03:01:04 PM  

Etchy333: quickdraw: I sure hope we can find somebody better by then. I've had enough of the Neolibs. Would love to see a true progressive run.

This guy, with Anthony Weiner.

[i.imgur.com image 640x428]


That doesn't look like Howard Dean at all. And the other one is a funny way to spell "Sherrod Brown".

// or "Liz Warren"
 
2014-01-22 03:01:28 PM  
 
2014-01-22 03:02:35 PM  
I'll wait until Krauthammer weighs in before calling it a lock.
 
2014-01-22 03:02:39 PM  

quickdraw: I sure hope we can find somebody better by then. I've had enough of the Neolibs. Would love to see a true progressive run.


This.
 
2014-01-22 03:04:10 PM  
Bill Clinton does not deserve a third term.
 
2014-01-22 03:04:17 PM  

Dr Dreidel: // or "Liz Warren"


The country isn't ready, but I am. Warren/Franken(? too northeast maybe?) '16
 
2014-01-22 03:05:25 PM  
I find Hillaryites to be like Tea Partiers except with more delusion and less derp.
 
2014-01-22 03:06:00 PM  
Sorry, but Hill Dog is too old, yes too old to be the president.
 
2014-01-22 03:06:51 PM  
What's a neolib and what's a hillaryite?
 
2014-01-22 03:07:18 PM  
Subby made me laugh.
 
2014-01-22 03:07:35 PM  

quickdraw: I sure hope we can find somebody better by then. I've had enough of the Neolibs. Would love to see a true progressive run.


As much as I'd love a "true progressive" President, one wouldn't win the general

/unless the GOP fronted someone worse than Palin
 
2014-01-22 03:08:19 PM  

quickdraw: I sure hope we can find somebody better by then. I've had enough of the Neolibs. Would love to see a true progressive run.


I prefer another pragmatic progressive, like the one we have now.
 
2014-01-22 03:08:27 PM  

Infernalist: What's a neolib and what's a hillaryite?


I can only guess as to the latter, but a "neolib" is a person who believes in "neoliberalism" or "neoclassical economics" which essentially means believing "lassez faire solves problems".
 
2014-01-22 03:09:45 PM  

Dr Dreidel: // or "Liz Warren"


^ this
 
2014-01-22 03:09:49 PM  

ikanreed: Infernalist: What's a neolib and what's a hillaryite?

I can only guess as to the latter, but a "neolib" is a person who believes in "neoliberalism" or "neoclassical economics" which essentially means believing "lassez faire solves problems".


So, a Republican.
 
2014-01-22 03:10:26 PM  

ikanreed: Dr Dreidel: // or "Liz Warren"

The country isn't ready, but I am. Warren/Franken(? too northeast maybe?) '16


Dean/Franken

As many jokes as Al has cracked about various VPs - Rockefeller, Mondale, Bush, Quayle, Gore, Cheney, and (IIRC) Biden - it would be unfair to not let others have a turn at him.

// I assume he cracked jokes about Mondale
// and I might be attributing a Dave Barry joke about "Pelson Pockefeller" to The Franken Decade
 
2014-01-22 03:11:03 PM  

ikanreed: Dr Dreidel: // or "Liz Warren"

The country isn't ready, but I am. Warren/Franken(? too northeast maybe?) '16


I like that ticket, although I'm still not sure they are different enough to substantially change anything. At least they might step on the brakes a little harder before wealth inequality drives us over the cliff.
 
2014-01-22 03:11:48 PM  
I submitted this with a less-schizophrenic headline
 
2014-01-22 03:12:00 PM  
TED KOPPEL: Does it, bother you that it appears that it is going to be a largely unilateral policy? I don't want to diminish the influence of our British friends, but this is clearly an American policy.

WILLIAM KRISTOL: It is. One would always prefer to have more allies rather than fewer. And I think we actually will have lots of help in the reconstruction and democratization, actually, of Iraq. But, look, I think what we've learned over the last ten years is that America has to lead. Other countries won't act. They will follow us, but they won't do it on their own. And in this case, I think we'll be vindicated when we discover the weapons of mass destruction and when we liberate the people of Iraq. [ABC, Nightline, 3/5/03, via Nexis]
 
2014-01-22 03:12:27 PM  

s2s2s2: It doesn't matter how many times Hillary Clinton says she won't make another bid for the White House in 2016.


I know. But as a D (well Liberal, but D is close enough), I look forward to watching the R's waste money against someone who isn't running.
 
2014-01-22 03:14:51 PM  
Nah - conservatives will destroy her with biting wit:

www.bitlogic.com
 
2014-01-22 03:15:30 PM  

Dr Dreidel: ikanreed: Dr Dreidel: // or "Liz Warren"

The country isn't ready, but I am. Warren/Franken(? too northeast maybe?) '16

Dean/Franken

As many jokes as Al has cracked about various VPs - Rockefeller, Mondale, Bush, Quayle, Gore, Cheney, and (IIRC) Biden - it would be unfair to not let others have a turn at him.

// I assume he cracked jokes about Mondale
// and I might be attributing a Dave Barry joke about "Pelson Pockefeller" to The Franken Decade


Actually, I'd be more worried about Al's brother Otto during that campaign, what with his predilection to hitting people with boards and poor choices in disguises.
 
2014-01-22 03:16:52 PM  

Infernalist: ikanreed: Infernalist: What's a neolib and what's a hillaryite?

I can only guess as to the latter, but a "neolib" is a person who believes in "neoliberalism" or "neoclassical economics" which essentially means believing "lassez faire solves problems".

So, a Republican.


I don't think you know the degree to which democrats have bought into the myth that "the market creates solutions".  They don't think of it as a panacea for all issues, social, financial, whatever, but it's not viewed with any underlying skepticism.
 
2014-01-22 03:18:02 PM  
Well, that WAS pretty much the gist of the Fark headline about Kristol's prediction....
 
2014-01-22 03:18:15 PM  

rjakobi: Dr Dreidel: ikanreed: Dr Dreidel: // or "Liz Warren"

The country isn't ready, but I am. Warren/Franken(? too northeast maybe?) '16

Dean/Franken

As many jokes as Al has cracked about various VPs - Rockefeller, Mondale, Bush, Quayle, Gore, Cheney, and (IIRC) Biden - it would be unfair to not let others have a turn at him.

// I assume he cracked jokes about Mondale
// and I might be attributing a Dave Barry joke about "Pelson Pockefeller" to The Franken Decade

Actually, I'd be more worried about Al's brother Otto during that campaign, what with his predilection to hitting people with boards and poor choices in disguises.


If Otto becomes a liability in the campaign, I'll eat my hat.
 
2014-01-22 03:20:45 PM  

ikanreed: Infernalist: ikanreed: Infernalist: What's a neolib and what's a hillaryite?

I can only guess as to the latter, but a "neolib" is a person who believes in "neoliberalism" or "neoclassical economics" which essentially means believing "lassez faire solves problems".

So, a Republican.

I don't think you know the degree to which democrats have bought into the myth that "the market creates solutions".  They don't think of it as a panacea for all issues, social, financial, whatever, but it's not viewed with any underlying skepticism.


Yes, I'm sure there are droves of Democrats who subscribe to the mentality of 'the market will fix it.'

Oh wait, no I don't think that at all.  I think any Democrat who believed that would be a Republican, instead.

And they'd be retarded, too.
 
2014-01-22 03:22:59 PM  
I'm in the 'please don't run, Hillary' camp. It's not that she couldn't do the job, and probably do it well. We just need new blood in the system . Too much nepotism in American politics right now. However, you can't get on the ticket without kowtowing to all the major political interest groups which means no education or Union reform from the Dems, and no business, economic, or military reform from the Repubs. And those are the 5 things eating this country alive.
 
2014-01-22 03:23:24 PM  

Car_Ramrod: If Otto becomes a liability in the campaign, I'll eat my hat.


Nah, candidates' imaginary friends are only important in the GOP primaries.
 
2014-01-22 03:23:51 PM  

Infernalist: ikanreed: Infernalist: ikanreed: Infernalist: What's a neolib and what's a hillaryite?

I can only guess as to the latter, but a "neolib" is a person who believes in "neoliberalism" or "neoclassical economics" which essentially means believing "lassez faire solves problems".

So, a Republican.

I don't think you know the degree to which democrats have bought into the myth that "the market creates solutions".  They don't think of it as a panacea for all issues, social, financial, whatever, but it's not viewed with any underlying skepticism.

Yes, I'm sure there are droves of Democrats who subscribe to the mentality of 'the market will fix it.'

Oh wait, no I don't think that at all.  I think any Democrat who believed that would be a Republican, instead.

And they'd be retarded, too.


Yeah, I know, no true scotsman puts sugar on his oatmeal, right?  I'm not trying to make a BSABSVR argument here, just that the myth is a persistent part of American culture and occurs on the democratic party too.
 
2014-01-22 03:23:58 PM  
It all depends on who the GOP chooses as a candidate. They have a very poor track record as of late.
 
2014-01-22 03:26:30 PM  

ikanreed: Infernalist: ikanreed: Infernalist: ikanreed: Infernalist: What's a neolib and what's a hillaryite?

I can only guess as to the latter, but a "neolib" is a person who believes in "neoliberalism" or "neoclassical economics" which essentially means believing "lassez faire solves problems".

So, a Republican.

I don't think you know the degree to which democrats have bought into the myth that "the market creates solutions".  They don't think of it as a panacea for all issues, social, financial, whatever, but it's not viewed with any underlying skepticism.

Yes, I'm sure there are droves of Democrats who subscribe to the mentality of 'the market will fix it.'

Oh wait, no I don't think that at all.  I think any Democrat who believed that would be a Republican, instead.

And they'd be retarded, too.

Yeah, I know, no true scotsman puts sugar on his oatmeal, right?  I'm not trying to make a BSABSVR argument here, just that the myth is a persistent part of American culture and occurs on the democratic party too.


Sure it does.  I mean, isn't one of the main planks of the Democratic Party?  Aren't they known for being pro-business and anti-regulation?

Any Democrat who believes that tripe is confused and retarded and belongs in the GOP with the rest of the confused retards.
 
2014-01-22 03:34:55 PM  

Infernalist: ikanreed: Infernalist: ikanreed: Infernalist: ikanreed: Infernalist: What's a neolib and what's a hillaryite?

I can only guess as to the latter, but a "neolib" is a person who believes in "neoliberalism" or "neoclassical economics" which essentially means believing "lassez faire solves problems".

So, a Republican.

I don't think you know the degree to which democrats have bought into the myth that "the market creates solutions".  They don't think of it as a panacea for all issues, social, financial, whatever, but it's not viewed with any underlying skepticism.

Yes, I'm sure there are droves of Democrats who subscribe to the mentality of 'the market will fix it.'

Oh wait, no I don't think that at all.  I think any Democrat who believed that would be a Republican, instead.

And they'd be retarded, too.

Yeah, I know, no true scotsman puts sugar on his oatmeal, right?  I'm not trying to make a BSABSVR argument here, just that the myth is a persistent part of American culture and occurs on the democratic party too.

Sure it does.  I mean, isn't one of the main planks of the Democratic Party?  Aren't they known for being pro-business and anti-regulation?

Any Democrat who believes that tripe is confused and retarded and belongs in the GOP with the rest of the confused retards.


Although, I don't think liberals are hard enough on the Democratic party. They're shiatty too though, this system is broken, and Democrats are complicit. They only seem better compared to something as backwards as the current state of the republican party. But liberals deserve something far better than the shiat we've been fed.
 
2014-01-22 03:42:57 PM  

Infernalist: ikanreed: Infernalist: ikanreed: Infernalist: ikanreed: Infernalist: What's a neolib and what's a hillaryite?

I can only guess as to the latter, but a "neolib" is a person who believes in "neoliberalism" or "neoclassical economics" which essentially means believing "lassez faire solves problems".

So, a Republican.

I don't think you know the degree to which democrats have bought into the myth that "the market creates solutions".  They don't think of it as a panacea for all issues, social, financial, whatever, but it's not viewed with any underlying skepticism.

Yes, I'm sure there are droves of Democrats who subscribe to the mentality of 'the market will fix it.'

Oh wait, no I don't think that at all.  I think any Democrat who believed that would be a Republican, instead.

And they'd be retarded, too.

Yeah, I know, no true scotsman puts sugar on his oatmeal, right?  I'm not trying to make a BSABSVR argument here, just that the myth is a persistent part of American culture and occurs on the democratic party too.

Sure it does.  I mean, isn't one of the main planks of the Democratic Party?  Aren't they known for being pro-business and anti-regulation?

Any Democrat who believes that tripe is confused and retarded and belongs in the GOP with the rest of the confused retards.


Two things:

1) Despite living in VA and belonging to the VADP, arguably a state with some of the more conservative Democrats, I would not describe many (if any) Democrats as believing in lassaiz-faire economics, at least, not without substantial skepticism about the underlying system. And few speak of wanting no regulation.

2) Neither side understands economics. Both sides believe the starting points used in economics are arbitrary and just use the one they like. In my experience, when you tell a conservative what supply-side economics says to do, they generally violently refuse to believe in about half of it, and even if they express belief, they will revert to opposing it anyway. Liberals also cherry-pick, but just don't care which economic theory it came from.
 
2014-01-22 03:45:37 PM  

red5ish: It all depends on who the GOP chooses as a candidate. They have a very poor track record as of late.


When California and essentially all of the Northeast is solidly blue, Republicans could run a perfect campaign and still lose.
 
2014-01-22 03:48:32 PM  

MayoSlather: Although, I don't think liberals are hard enough on the Democratic party. They're shiatty too though, this system is broken, and Democrats are complicit. They only seem better compared to something as backwards as the current state of the republican party. But liberals deserve something far better than the shiat we've been fed.


There are two types of people who join political parties. (And by join, I mean active party participation, not just registering or volunteering for campaigns.) Narcissists and True Believers. The True Believers want to affect change, the Narcissists want power. (Most people are a mix, but usually one or the other is dominant.) True Believers tend to be idealistic and even live in fantasy-land, believing the problems of their vision can be worked out after-the-fact. Narcissists tend to be both more realistic and more paranoid, and prefer not to do anything that risks election/reelection. Narcissists drag the parties towards the center, True Believers towards the fringe.

The Narcissists control the Democratic Party, but in the last decade, the True Believers in the GOP took over after the failure of the Neocon platform. That demonstrates how you really need a balance and why reforms go so slowly.
 
2014-01-22 03:48:34 PM  

red5ish: It all depends on who the GOP chooses as a candidate. They have a very poor track record as of late.


They can't possibly get any worse than Romney can they?
Well on the plutocrat wing of the party anyway, they at least want America to still exist, even if every other person in the country other than their tiny elite can't afford a refrigerator. I am sure the theocrat wing could basically end up nominating anyone no matter how obviously evil, incompetent or destructive they would be.
 
2014-01-22 03:51:26 PM  

Cymbal: red5ish: It all depends on who the GOP chooses as a candidate. They have a very poor track record as of late.

When California and essentially all of the Northeast is solidly blue, Republicans could run a perfect campaign and still lose.


I'm actually very pleased that the media, especially conservative media, painted the VA gubernatorial race as a referendum on the Tea Party. It allows the GOP to convince itself that it's close and can continue to do what it has been doing, and it's only McDonnell that muddied the water and cost them the race. In fact, Cuccinelli wasn't the Tea Party nominee. EW Jackson, who lost by 10 points, was. THAT is the referendum on the Tea Party, and so long as they miss that, they'll continue to think VA is in play for Tea Party loons.
 
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