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(Jim Romenesko)   Embarrassed by its reputation as a typo farm, Florida newspaper invites citizens to come down to building between 8 and 11 PM to proofread its next edition, with person finding most errors winning free dinner   (jimromenesko.com) divider line 95
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2014-01-22 02:37:28 PM
No need to worry newspaper, print media is strong and will last forever!
 
2014-01-22 02:38:14 PM

SonOfSpam: ...invites citizens to come down to ITS building....


It's is a contraction for it is or it has.
Its is a possessive pronoun meaning, more or less, of it or belonging to it.
And there is absolutely, positively, no such word as its'.
 
2014-01-22 02:39:46 PM
arnoldzwicky.s3.amazonaws.com
 
2014-01-22 02:40:33 PM

wichitaleaf: Jeebus people.
Who cares.
Is everyone old.

?

FTFY, you whippersnapper.
 
2014-01-22 02:41:31 PM

abhorrent1: I'm not proud that we have a problem. It is very humbling, but it seems to take an army to help turn this tide.

Or you could, ya know, click on the spell check button. Just a thought


There are already far too many moron "journalists" and "editors" who rely exclusively on spellcheck. That leads to publications full of properly-spelled, but improperly-used words.
 
2014-01-22 02:42:06 PM
Incidentally, newspapers could totally crowdsource their proofreading if they applied some technology here.

All they'd have to do is post the full stories as they come in and wiki-fy them so that registered subscribers could provide instant edits. Their pre-press software could be linked to those articles to pull the latest version at midnight (or whenever they actually go to press) and run those.

There'd be some shenanigans initially with vandals and so forth, but they'd ban those subscribers from making edits. In my mind, that's a better alternative than having people come into your office and having to pay out a free dinner every night. And it's way better than having shameful print editions loaded with errors.
 
2014-01-22 02:42:12 PM

Orgasmatron138: How about we try tackling real, unbiased journalism first, and I'll be willing to overlook a few typos in the meantime?


There are all symptoms of the same problems - laziness, complacency, cheapness, broken business model.
No fact-checking.
Poor beat assignment.
No or little follow-up.
Pay-for-play.
Boosterism substituting for civic responsibility.

I would subscribe to a 3-day-a-week paper, dead-tree edition, that had no sports, no TV, so syndicated filler, etc. and only concentrated on in-depth analytic journalism. Which police precinct has the best closure rate for crimes? Are the parks & roads departments keeping up maintenance? What are the options for job-seekers to qualify for local hard-to-fill positions (vo-tech, community college, union hall, for-profit schools, apprenticeships)?
 
2014-01-22 02:43:00 PM
What makes anyone think this will help?  These "helpful" people are going to change an article about crocheting at a nursing home into a clown bank robbery, where during the getaway the clowns multiply every time the cops shoot them.
 
2014-01-22 02:44:16 PM
So they're getting multiple proof readers/copy editors for the cost of a dinner for two, daily?  Sweet deal for the newspaper.
 
2014-01-22 02:49:24 PM

Nana's Vibrator: What makes anyone think this will help?  These "helpful" people are going to change an article about crocheting at a nursing home into a clown bank robbery, where during the getaway the clowns multiply every time the cops shoot them.


That would be awesome.
 
2014-01-22 02:52:19 PM

Keys dude: As a Florida newspaper editor (at the other end of the state), not getting a kick. That aside, you know what's worse than typos and other errors? Screwing up the crossword puzzle (wrong clues with the puzzle or something). You can make every error in the world -- typos, facts -- but the one that gets the phone ringing nonstop is if there is a problem with the crossword puzzle.


I'm a puzzler, and I am getting a kick our of your post.

What's a four letter word for a woman that ends in UNT?

It's aunt, you filthy apes.
 
2014-01-22 02:54:20 PM

Literally Addicted: So they're getting multiple proof readers/copy editors for the cost of a dinner for two, daily?  Sweet deal for the newspaper.


Likely the meals are traded for advertising in the media. If not, they are in need of far more help than just proof reading.
 
2014-01-22 02:54:20 PM
Wow, Nana has a great idea here. Lots of retired help possible in the area, bored in their retirement homes, cut the deadline for story submissions to noon, let the elderly correct things, and call in a second shift crew for layout before going out to contract printing.
 
2014-01-22 02:56:39 PM
i remember when my school newspaper had a letter spacing issue with:

GREAT SUMMER FLICKS

/ imagine the letters of the last word in large bold font, very close together.
 
2014-01-22 03:00:04 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-01-22 03:02:11 PM
I'd be asking those who are terminally ill to proofread. That way, by the time the complaints stack up, you got a dead person to blame.
31.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-01-22 03:02:34 PM
So their theory is "lets ask for free help instead of hiring employees to do the job"?

That's like starting a grocery store and telling people "But you have to come work on the farm for free, and we'll give free apples to one person who helps".
 
2014-01-22 03:05:49 PM

JuggleGeek: So their theory is "lets ask for free help instead of hiring employees to do the job"?

That's like starting a grocery store and telling people "But you have to come work on the farm for free, and we'll give free apples to one person who helps".


Why can't they hire more people?

I keep seeing business complaining that there's too much work for too few employees, as if we're in some sort of labor shortage.

Walmart, for example, 'we don't have enough people to man the registers AND stock the shelves, so they all sit empty until people stop coming in to buy things and we close the store.' Hiring people to perform a service for profit is apparently completly out of the question.

No wonder so many people are going self-employed.
 
2014-01-22 03:14:26 PM
Becausee ittt takex tooo musch efort tu typo itt in2 gooogle
 
2014-01-22 03:22:16 PM
Meanwhile: Inside the St. Augustine Record

i184.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-22 03:33:47 PM

Grandemadaca: wichitaleaf: Jeebus people.
Who cares.
Is everyone old.?

FTFY, you whippersnapper.


Try again & this time finish the job.
 
2014-01-22 04:04:43 PM

The_Hairy_Gooch: Why not instead embrace your terrible grammar, and become the first typo newspaper with a contest in every edition that allows the grammar Nazi's to find all the errors and turn them and the Nazi with the most wins dinner! It's like the newest newspaper game, way better than crappy crosswords.


3/10 At least you picked the right article.
 
2014-01-22 04:11:56 PM

The_Hairy_Gooch: Why not instead embrace your terrible grammar, and become the first typo newspaper with a contest in every edition that allows the grammar Nazi's to find all the errors and turn them and the Nazi with the most wins dinner! It's like the newest newspaper game, way better than crappy crosswords.


You mean Grammar Nazis, right?
 
2014-01-22 04:19:34 PM
Things like this irritate me. I can't get a paying gig as a copy-editor or anything approaching a journalist, because they're offloading this stuff to the general public.
 
2014-01-22 04:23:42 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: So, are they still going to pay the editor this week?


Not to nitpick, but editor and proofreader are different jobs.
 
2014-01-22 04:25:29 PM

SordidEuphemism: Things like this irritate me. I can't get a paying gig as a copy-editor or anything approaching a journalist, because they're offloading this stuff to the general public.


FWIW, I'm on your side. Lots of failing upward in the publishing business these days. Have you tried industry mags? They tend to pay reasonably well, if you can get your toe in the door.
 
2014-01-22 04:28:44 PM
Here's an idea, how about the writer's of said stories proofread them before hitting send?
 
2014-01-22 04:30:19 PM

bratface: Here's an idea, how about the writer's of said stories proofread them before hitting send?


You can't always spot your own mistakes, unfortunately. When you've been staring at the same copy for a length of time, it truly turns into gobblety gook.
 
2014-01-22 04:30:56 PM
I think if would be fun to proofread and edit articles for them, especially if nobody checks the copy after you've made changes. I'd probably find myself occasionally wanting to tweak little details, or even change the complete point of the article, in perhaps bizarre and destructive ways.
 
2014-01-22 04:42:50 PM
If you hire me as a full time editor, I can do your job for you if you want.
 
2014-01-22 04:44:06 PM
Heh heh ... I actually am a proofreader.

All pubs have typos. Esp. the dailies.

Don't even get me started on websites, which are apparently where grammar and punctuation were brutally murdered and then left out to be picked clean by those flesh-eating beetles.

Having said that, just make sure the headlines don't have errors. Because when something is in 72 pt. type, it's pretty noticeable. When it's in the 8 pt. copy below it, not so much.
 
2014-01-22 04:44:16 PM

pute kisses like a man: i remember when my school newspaper had a letter spacing issue with:

GREAT SUMMER FLICKS

/ imagine the letters of the last word in large bold font, very close together.


OK:

failfun.com

www.blogcdn.com
 
2014-01-22 04:59:38 PM

Keys dude: As a Florida newspaper editor (at the other end of the state), not getting a kick. That aside, you know what's worse than typos and other errors? Screwing up the crossword puzzle (wrong clues with the puzzle or something). You can make every error in the world -- typos, facts -- but the one that gets the phone ringing nonstop is if there is a problem with the crossword puzzle.


Not to put a bug in your head, but I've often thought an enterprising business and newspaper could get more brand saturation and revenue by giving the crossword puzzle its own page with advertising. The eyeball-hours spent staring at that page have to be astronomical.

/Sudoku as well
 
2014-01-22 05:19:59 PM

Grumpy Cat: Nothing makes me feel more superior than fixing someone else's grammar.


I think you mean grammer.


/pet peave
 
2014-01-22 05:25:26 PM

jdjoker: Grumpy Cat: Nothing makes me feel more superior than fixing someone else's grammar.

I think you mean grammer.


/pet peave


peeve
 
2014-01-22 05:32:06 PM

abhorrent1: jdjoker: Grumpy Cat: Nothing makes me feel more superior than fixing someone else's grammar.

I think you mean grammer.


/pet peave

peeve

 
2014-01-22 05:43:28 PM
Wish my local fishwrapper would try this - I'd be getting a lot of free dinners.
 
2014-01-22 06:27:08 PM

bratface: Here's an idea, how about the writer's of said stories proofread them before hitting send?


Oh, the irony.

/Commence argument on whether I used the word "irony" correctly....
 
2014-01-22 07:28:36 PM

Pawprint: bratface: Here's an idea, how about the writer's of said stories proofread them before hitting send?

Oh, the irony.

/Commence argument on whether I used the word "irony" correctly....


Difference being, I am not a writer/reporter, etc.
 
2014-01-22 09:16:00 PM
At least there, their, they're trying. Damn farkers.. You can't have you're, your cake and eat it to, too!
 
2014-01-22 10:31:02 PM

buckler: There are already far too many moron "journalists" and "editors" who rely exclusively on spellcheck. That leads to publications full of properly-spelled, but improperly-used words.


Word processing has been around for over 30 years now.  I can't understand why spellcheck functions don't flag homophones with a different color to give users a chance to check whether it's right form of the word.
 
2014-01-23 12:33:45 AM
Let me guess it will be a happy meal.
 
2014-01-23 07:00:05 AM

FrancoFile: I would subscribe to a 3-day-a-week paper, dead-tree edition, that had no sports, no TV, so syndicated filler, etc. and only concentrated on in-depth analytic journalism. Which police precinct has the best closure rate for crimes? Are the parks & roads departments keeping up maintenance? What are the options for job-seekers to qualify for local hard-to-fill positions (vo-tech, community college, union hall, for-profit schools, apprenticeships)?


It's something different. You might get subs. You might even get ads until the traditional paper threatens to raise ad rates on any business that advertises in your paper as well. As for those businesses, don't expect them to be your friends for making it easier for the jobless to find work. And the data you are going to need from local government is just the kind that is likely to embarrass them.

In short, you would probably be better off having your offices firebombed. At least you would go out with a bang.
 
2014-01-23 10:23:49 AM

Unoriginal_Username: Dinner is cheaper than a word processor I guess.


From the article: "Spellcheck is a great program, but if you type a word that is spelled correctly but used incorrectly, it doesn't help at all."

It's kind of fun to spot the errors in The Record, but that's not any different than any other paper, periodical, or post. I think the publisher is trying a pretty cool idea, even if it keeps a Flagler College student from getting some volunteer credit.

BTW, the time quoted in the article is 8pm-11pm, so they can catch typos before the edition goes to press. Also, the frequency of the free dinner award is not mentioned; it could be daily, or at the end of a week, at the end of the month, it just doesn't say.

Link to actual article for those who care to read the source
 
2014-01-23 12:02:54 PM

on the road: buckler: There are already far too many moron "journalists" and "editors" who rely exclusively on spellcheck. That leads to publications full of properly-spelled, but improperly-used words.

Word processing has been around for over 30 years now.  I can't understand why spellcheck functions don't flag homophones with a different color to give users a chance to check whether it's right form of the word.


Oh no, that leads to horrible things. Word (2010?) did that by underlining homophones in blue, and right-clicking it gave you the opposite homophone. Except people have been trained since forever that words underlined in red are spelled WRONG and they need to take the computer's suggestion to how it's spelled right. So when they saw a blue-underlined word, they assumed it was misspelled and had the computer "spell-check" it over to the other one, which they assumed was the correct one. So since then, I've received several emails where every. single. homophone. is incorrect; "Well, the computer told me it was misspelled". Also proofing outgoing documents to the outer world where every. single. one. is incorrect. Including typos that one-off to homophones.

'I cot a cold so your going to get it's file marrow. You're file, its hear.'
*headdesk*
 
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