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(LA Times)   A new virus has been linked to bee colony collapse. This should be an interesting story to any person who eats periodically   (latimes.com) divider line 28
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-01-22 11:01:41 AM
I like to eat animals that can live on naturally pollinated grasses.
 
2014-01-22 11:15:02 AM
Monoculture ain't helpin' neither.
 
2014-01-22 11:15:56 AM
The virus' relative role in the demise of colonies has not been measured

Well that's pretty damned convenient for Bayer chemicals, isn't it?  Now let's pump some more nicotinoid poisons out onto those crops!
 
2014-01-22 11:18:17 AM
Of all the problems in the world, I have to see this as being in the top 5.  This is one we MUST solve.
 
2014-01-22 11:20:15 AM
I solved the mystery:

static1.wikia.nocookie.net
He's made a huge mistake.
 
2014-01-22 11:40:03 AM

doglover: Monoculture ain't helpin' neither.


It's a problem, but orchards could help mitigate the problem by planting extra bee forage in and around their fields.

Also, corn and wheat may not be pollinated by bees, but they do take up a lot of area that in the past might be have been home to a large variety of flowing plants.
 
2014-01-22 11:50:30 AM

meat0918: doglover: Monoculture ain't helpin' neither.

It's a problem, but orchards could help mitigate the problem by planting extra bee forage in and around their fields.

Also, corn and wheat may not be pollinated by bees, but they do take up a lot of area that in the past might be have been home to a large variety of flowing plants.


It's rabbit starvation. If you eat only one kind of food, you don't get enough vitamins. You'll waste away with a full belly, leaving yourself open to all manner of diseases, like this virus.
 
2014-01-22 12:43:20 PM
Fortunately, I don't eat periodically.  It's more of a random occurrence.

/I sound fat
 
2014-01-22 12:46:56 PM
*mumbles something about genetic engineering of bees or plants or both*
 
2014-01-22 01:06:54 PM

KellyX: *mumbles something about genetic engineering of bees or plants or both*


both and more please
 
2014-01-22 01:07:40 PM

doglover: meat0918: doglover: Monoculture ain't helpin' neither.

It's a problem, but orchards could help mitigate the problem by planting extra bee forage in and around their fields.

Also, corn and wheat may not be pollinated by bees, but they do take up a lot of area that in the past might be have been home to a large variety of flowing plants.

It's rabbit starvation. If you eat only one kind of food, you don't get enough vitamins. You'll waste away with a full belly, leaving yourself open to all manner of diseases, like this virus.


www.newyorker.com
 
2014-01-22 01:16:32 PM
I only eat things that end in Z, like Cheeze Whizz and Twinkiez. No bees necessary just sweet sweet chemicals.
 
2014-01-22 01:24:27 PM

Semper IvXx: I only eat things that end in Z, like Cheeze Whizz and Twinkiez. No bees necessary just sweet sweet chemicals.


as long as that includes booze, I'm ok with it
 
2014-01-22 01:49:18 PM

doyner: Of all the problems in the world, I have to see this as being in the top 5.  This is one we MUST solve.


Pretty much.  When the bees are gone, we'll starting eating each other.
 
2014-01-22 01:51:20 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: doyner: Of all the problems in the world, I have to see this as being in the top 5.  This is one we MUST solve.

Pretty much.  When the bees are gone, we'll starting eating each other.


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2014-01-22 02:11:29 PM
"Honey, I swear I got that virus from a plant!"
 
2014-01-22 02:18:59 PM
"I want to be cautious," Chen said. "The cause of colony collapse disorder remains unclear. But we do have evidence that TRSV along with other viruses that we screen on a regular basis are associated with lower rates of over-winter survival."
Indeed, the new virus, along with the well documented Israeli Acute Paralysis Virus, was correlated with colonies deemed "weak" due to a variety of stresses.


Gee, I wonder if the continuing use of neonicotinoid pesticides, along with all the other pesticides and herbicides we use, could be damaging the bees' immune systems, making them more vulnerable to all these viruses that didn't used to impact them?

What's that, chemical companies--NO? Ok then. It's just a complete mystery.
 
2014-01-22 02:45:11 PM
shiat, now when I explain why the ending to War of the Worlds is farming stupid, I can't say "It would be like catching a virus from a tree."
 
2014-01-22 02:58:12 PM

KellyX: *mumbles something about genetic engineering of bees or plants or both*


Let me help you there.

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0 00 1415

Methodology/Principal Findings
We conducted a meta-analysis of 25 studies that independently assessed potential effects of Bt Cry proteins on honey bee survival (or mortality). Our results show that Bt Cry proteins used in genetically modified crops commercialized for control of lepidopteran and coleopteran pests do not negatively affect the survival of either honey bee larvae or adults in laboratory settings.
 
2014-01-22 03:00:18 PM

cryinoutloud: Gee, I wonder if the continuing use of neonicotinoid pesticides, along with all the other pesticides and herbicides we use, could be damaging the bees' immune systems, making them more vulnerable to all these viruses that didn't used to impact them?


If you don't like the use of neonics what do you suggest the alternative is?  Organophosphate? Organochlorides?  Carabamites?  Phyretherins?  Organic spinosad?

Because those aren't just possibly toxic to bees they're f*cking horrible.  At least the neo-nics are supposed to be bee safe if used properly.
 
2014-01-22 03:04:33 PM
Are bees needed to pollinate cheeseburgers?
 
2014-01-22 03:07:20 PM

jbuist: cryinoutloud: Gee, I wonder if the continuing use of neonicotinoid pesticides, along with all the other pesticides and herbicides we use, could be damaging the bees' immune systems, making them more vulnerable to all these viruses that didn't used to impact them?

If you don't like the use of neonics what do you suggest the alternative is?  Organophosphate? Organochlorides?  Carabamites?  Phyretherins?  Organic spinosad?

Because those aren't just possibly toxic to bees they're f*cking horrible.  At least the neo-nics are supposed to be bee safe if used properly.


I think the problem is we're relying on farmers and landscapers to read the label and be responsible.

My dad had to stop renting a portion of his farmland because the guy he was renting it too decided a 29MPH wind was great conditions to spray Roundup.  Took out half of my dad's garlic crop.  Crop insurance paid for his loss, farmer had no fines levied against him.

In Woodburn, Oregon we had some company spray some trees in bloom because of an aphid problem, and killed an estimated 50,000 bumblebees in the process.  They paid a $555 fine for the incident.
 
2014-01-22 03:52:34 PM

meat0918: Also, corn and wheat may not be pollinated by bees, but they do take up a lot of area that in the past might be have been home to a large variety of flowing plants.


If this is a factor then why are we seeing the decline in the past two decades instead of when we got to the current US crop area 50-70 years ago.  Tilliage has not increase over the decline timeframe but actually decreased.
 
2014-01-22 03:59:32 PM

Saiga410: meat0918: Also, corn and wheat may not be pollinated by bees, but they do take up a lot of area that in the past might be have been home to a large variety of flowing plants.

If this is a factor then why are we seeing the decline in the past two decades instead of when we got to the current US crop area 50-70 years ago.  Tilliage has not increase over the decline timeframe but actually decreased.


Cropland being encroached upon by suburbia perhaps?
 
2014-01-22 04:02:12 PM

Pick: Are bees needed to pollinate cheeseburgers?


Yes, I am afraid they are.
 
2014-01-22 04:58:29 PM
The obvious solution is to kill off tobacco. It even harms our ecosystem.
 
2014-01-22 06:05:41 PM
European Honey Bees are not a native species to the US.  Any treehugger worth his salt should be for the eradication of this invasive species.  It out competes the native bees for nectar and pollen.  This is just nature trying to get back in balance.  Or bee farmers should keep their livestock under control and not let them roam freely.

/Not too sure who I am trying to troll, I have just had it up to my eye with another invasive species the last few days (feels like weeks).  Feral cats been screwing in my neighbors yard and howling all night.  Stupid neighbor feeds the damn things and attracts them.

//In all honesty, European honey bees are not native to the US.  Lots of the native bees are much more efficient at pollination.  They just don't produce honey.
 
2014-01-23 03:28:03 PM

meat0918: KellyX: *mumbles something about genetic engineering of bees or plants or both*

Let me help you there.

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0 00 1415

Methodology/Principal Findings
We conducted a meta-analysis of 25 studies that independently assessed potential effects of Bt Cry proteins on honey bee survival (or mortality). Our results show that Bt Cry proteins used in genetically modified crops commercialized for control of lepidopteran and coleopteran pests do not negatively affect the survival of either honey bee larvae or adults in laboratory settings.


I'm guessing you took it to mean I'm against Genetic Engineering?

Let me be clear, that was me mumbling and biatching about how we need to embrace Genetic Engineering, not just on bees and flowers and plants, but on humans too...
 
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