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(KMOV St. Louis)   8 year old boy saves 6 people from a house fire, but dies trying to save more. Those are some giant, dusty brass balls and I'll just have a seat over there   (kmov.com) divider line 98
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2014-01-22 11:52:18 AM
Between this kid and the 14-year-old kid who tackled the suicide bomber in Pakistan there have been a couple of little guys who adults could learn a lot about bravery from.
 
2014-01-22 11:59:51 AM
Once in a while you read about an act of unbelievable sacrifice that would make even Chuck Norris shed a tear or two.  This is one of those times.
 
2014-01-22 12:01:24 PM

99sportster: CheapEngineer: brantgoose: Well bless him. He was a very brave little boy.

But that trailer was a death trap and there should be an investigation into why so many people and animals were allowed to live in such a small space, especially one which was basically a tinder box. Trailers are too small and too poorly constructed to survive a fire unless it can be extinguished immediately. They go up like a cardboard box soaked in grease. And it probably wouldn't be worth rebuilding a trailer after a grease fire, even if there were no structural damage--they're just boxes covered with aluminium or crap-board siding.

"Allowed"? People don't live in shoddy mobile homes because they have a choice, numbnuts. More education on proper wiring/fire alarms/etc, code enforcement for landlords - but I hope you're concentrating your disdain on the bastard that rented that deathtrap to that family, and not the family forced to live in one.

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\"There's some lovely dung over here!"

FTA:

The dead were identified as 57-year-old Louis Beach, the homeowner;

I don't believe there was a landlord involved here.

/Not everyone rents from someone else.


Sorry, didn't see that part. I guess it's fitting the dumbass who owned the firetrap passed in the fire, but on the plus side *someone* was able to teach that boy respect for his elders and self sacrifice, even if his survival skills were lacking.

\proud of the kid, but would rather have him alive
 
2014-01-22 12:04:00 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: "Let the little children come to me," Jesus said, "and do not hinder them -- for to such belongs the kingdom of heaven."



    If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins.  I will release wild animals that will kill your children...  (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)

He seems nice.
 
2014-01-22 12:04:41 PM
At least it didn't get weird...

Sandusky County prosecutor Stierwalt: No crime in highway patrolman's sexual encounter with pre-teen

Always look on the bright side of death...
 
2014-01-22 12:06:05 PM
Hero of the Year award right here - and it's only January.
 
2014-01-22 12:08:57 PM

Headso: There were many animals inside this home as well, WROC reports. At least one dog died and a cat rescue group is hoping to find some of at least 10 cats that were in the home.


Lol
 
2014-01-22 12:11:09 PM

abfalter: I hate reading things like this.  I feel bad for the kid thinking of his last moments.  I feel bad for the uncle who (hopefully) was trying to encourage the kid to leave.  I feel bad for the survivors who will miss him.

Ever since I became a dad I can't handle the idea of kids being scared.  This terrifies me so badly to imagine my kid ever being in a situation like that.


Agreed. But at the same time there would be an enormous sense of pride stemming from the fact that you were able to instill values in your child that human life carries such worth that potentially sacrificing himself in order to help others even crosses his mind.
 
2014-01-22 12:11:13 PM

bo_loo: TheShavingofOccam123: "Let the little children come to me," Jesus said, "and do not hinder them -- for to such belongs the kingdom of heaven."


    If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins.  I will release wild animals that will kill your children...  (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)

He seems nice.


Yeah. It does seem strange that Jesus never said send them to me burnt to a crisp or blown up by terror bombings or poisoned by unhealthy food and water or killed by diseases easily preventable by vaccination or...
 
2014-01-22 12:44:58 PM
Now that deserves the Hero tag.
 
2014-01-22 12:49:45 PM
This sucks the world could use more people like that kid around.
 
2014-01-22 12:51:27 PM
Of course the kid tried to save everyone. He felt bad about  starting the fire
 
2014-01-22 12:54:49 PM
This headline pretty much sums up this site perfectly.  Something heroic and awesome, followed by something terrible that completely ruins it all.
 
2014-01-22 01:00:56 PM
This is a local story for me, and the local news has it covered a lot better than St. Louis.

http://www.whec.com/news/stories/S3291766.shtml?cat=565 

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/local/2014/01/20/fire -c hief-he-saved-those-other-six-people-/4668401/ 

"Tyler was able to wake six people - including two other children, ages 4 and 6 - who all escaped. It was when Tyler tried to help Smith, who uses a wheelchair and crutches because he was without part of a leg, that he was killed. "

He wasn't 'living' there, he was staying with family, that's why there were so many in the trailer. 

\Dusty in here...
 
2014-01-22 01:01:42 PM
From the CNN link:

"Then Tyler went back into the blaze to help his grandfather, who was disabled and would have been unable to get out of the home on his own, Ebmeyer said.

The boy broke away from his aunt outside the burning trailer and ran back inside to try to save his grandfather, she said.

The pair were found together on a bed in the back room. It appeared that the boy was trying to lift his grandfather from the bed when he was overcome by the smoke and fire, the fire chief said.

Tyler and his grandfather were like best friends, Vrooman said."


It's an odd feeling, at once wanting to celebrate and mourn this young hero.
 
2014-01-22 01:14:10 PM

JungleBoogie: From the CNN link:

"Then Tyler went back into the blaze to help his grandfather, who was disabled and would have been unable to get out of the home on his own, Ebmeyer said.

The boy broke away from his aunt outside the burning trailer and ran back inside to try to save his grandfather, she said.

The pair were found together on a bed in the back room. It appeared that the boy was trying to lift his grandfather from the bed when he was overcome by the smoke and fire, the fire chief said.

Tyler and his grandfather were like best friends, Vrooman said."

It's an odd feeling, at once wanting to celebrate and mourn this young hero.


No it isn't. It isn't odd at all. It's exactly how you should feel.
 
2014-01-22 01:21:29 PM
Now I have that damn Hyundai ad stuck in my head (touch, or tackle?)

Also, it's kinda dusty in here.
 
2014-01-22 01:25:48 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: I'm not saying negligence killed this boy but lots of people die or suffer horrific burns from unsafe electrical cords.


No working smoke detectors were in the house, as reported by the source I read.  I'm saying negligence killed this boy and his family.

The same thing with that story a while ago with the 12-year-old that was up at 3am on a gaming binge: a dozen residents in the house and not one f*cking working smoke detector.  Not one.  It just so happened that that other kid was able to save everyone.

If your smoke detectors don't work, it is negligence and that is that.  Check yours, check the ones in your elderly family's out, make sure they work!  My wife and I op-test ours at least weekly when cooking bacon.
 
2014-01-22 01:43:25 PM

factoryconnection: TheShavingofOccam123: I'm not saying negligence killed this boy but lots of people die or suffer horrific burns from unsafe electrical cords.

No working smoke detectors were in the house, as reported by the source I read.  I'm saying negligence killed this boy and his family.

The same thing with that story a while ago with the 12-year-old that was up at 3am on a gaming binge: a dozen residents in the house and not one f*cking working smoke detector.  Not one.  It just so happened that that other kid was able to save everyone.

If your smoke detectors don't work, it is negligence and that is that.  Check yours, check the ones in your elderly family's out, make sure they work!  My wife and I op-test ours at least weekly when cooking bacon.


Bacon as safety equipment? Behold the power of bacon!
 
2014-01-22 01:49:45 PM
"...and I'll just have a seat over there "

i.imgur.com

She knows that feel.
 
2014-01-22 02:09:26 PM
If anyone is feeling charitable, here's the link to the memorial fundraiser mentioned in TFA:  http://www.youcaring.com/memorial-fundraiser/8-year-old-hero-lost-his - life-in-a-fire-trying-to-save-other/128453
 
2014-01-22 02:21:48 PM

factoryconnection: TheShavingofOccam123: I'm not saying negligence killed this boy but lots of people die or suffer horrific burns from unsafe electrical cords.

No working smoke detectors were in the house, as reported by the source I read.  I'm saying negligence killed this boy and his family.

The same thing with that story a while ago with the 12-year-old that was up at 3am on a gaming binge: a dozen residents in the house and not one f*cking working smoke detector.  Not one.  It just so happened that that other kid was able to save everyone.

If your smoke detectors don't work, it is negligence and that is that.  Check yours, check the ones in your elderly family's out, make sure they work!  My wife and I op-test ours at least weekly when cooking bacon.


I'm not condoning choices these people made but we are raised to be consumers in this country, to keep up with the Jones' by buying the next new greatest thing. In the land of the monthly disability check, this often means buying an xbox or getting cable tiers while buying macaroni and cheese and potato chips instead of healthy food. Or smoke detectors.

I'm not condoning the choices that burned this kid to death but I would bet there were lots of consumer electronics all plugged in. And apparently not one smoke detector.
 
2014-01-22 02:41:41 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: factoryconnection: TheShavingofOccam123: I'm not saying negligence killed this boy but lots of people die or suffer horrific burns from unsafe electrical cords.

No working smoke detectors were in the house, as reported by the source I read.  I'm saying negligence killed this boy and his family.

The same thing with that story a while ago with the 12-year-old that was up at 3am on a gaming binge: a dozen residents in the house and not one f*cking working smoke detector.  Not one.  It just so happened that that other kid was able to save everyone.

If your smoke detectors don't work, it is negligence and that is that.  Check yours, check the ones in your elderly family's out, make sure they work!  My wife and I op-test ours at least weekly when cooking bacon.

I'm not condoning choices these people made but we are raised to be consumers in this country, to keep up with the Jones' by buying the next new greatest thing. In the land of the monthly disability check, this often means buying an xbox or getting cable tiers while buying macaroni and cheese and potato chips instead of healthy food. Or smoke detectors.

I'm not condoning the choices that burned this kid to death but I would bet there were lots of consumer electronics all plugged in. And apparently not one smoke detector.


I'll bet they even had a Refrigerator plugged in! Those bastards!
 
2014-01-22 02:44:34 PM
The kid's a hero and all, but you farkers cry way too easily.
 
2014-01-22 02:47:37 PM
Thanks Free Radical, I was starting to think I was the only one that ran the "Thank You" through their mind on reading this.

Crappy thing to happen to what seems like a great kid. RIP little hero dude. You've surely made you ancestors proud. Go the after life with your head high, you will receive a hero's welcome.
 
2014-01-22 02:59:55 PM

Serious Post on Serious Thread: TheShavingofOccam123: factoryconnection: TheShavingofOccam123: I'm not saying negligence killed this boy but lots of people die or suffer horrific burns from unsafe electrical cords.

No working smoke detectors were in the house, as reported by the source I read.  I'm saying negligence killed this boy and his family.

The same thing with that story a while ago with the 12-year-old that was up at 3am on a gaming binge: a dozen residents in the house and not one f*cking working smoke detector.  Not one.  It just so happened that that other kid was able to save everyone.

If your smoke detectors don't work, it is negligence and that is that.  Check yours, check the ones in your elderly family's out, make sure they work!  My wife and I op-test ours at least weekly when cooking bacon.

I'm not condoning choices these people made but we are raised to be consumers in this country, to keep up with the Jones' by buying the next new greatest thing. In the land of the monthly disability check, this often means buying an xbox or getting cable tiers while buying macaroni and cheese and potato chips instead of healthy food. Or smoke detectors.
I'm not condoning the choices that burned this kid to death but I would bet there were lots of consumer electronics all plugged in. And apparently not one smoke detector.

I'll bet they even had a Refrigerator plugged in! Those bastards!


Plus a chest freezer on the front porch!
 
2014-01-22 03:16:59 PM
Forget a statue of Robocop. Someone needs to put up a statue dedicated to this kid.
 
2014-01-22 03:33:10 PM

imfallen_angel: A mobile home... so many people, so many animals, so little space, and they couldn't get out somehow, and no neighbors helped?

The boy will and should be remembered as a hero for what he did, and tried to do, he was courageous for someone at such a young age, something that I find lacks so much in today's world.


It was 4 in the morning.  By the time someone thinks to wake up a neighbor, and said neighbor puts on a robe and shoes, that trailer would have been burnt to a crisp anyway.
 
2014-01-22 03:36:50 PM

abfalter: I hate reading things like this.  I feel bad for the kid thinking of his last moments.  I feel bad for the uncle who (hopefully) was trying to encourage the kid to leave.  I feel bad for the survivors who will miss him.

Ever since I became a dad I can't handle the idea of kids being scared.  This terrifies me so badly to imagine my kid ever being in a situation like that.


Keep it to yourself, Brian
 
2014-01-22 03:41:15 PM

Half Right: stuhayes2010: What adult allowed this kid to run back into a burning trailer?

Yeah, do they teach self-preservation and rational thinking in his school?


Nope, "No Child Left Behind" bullshiat ended that.
 
2014-01-22 03:45:10 PM

abfalter: I hate reading things like this.  I feel bad for the kid thinking of his last moments.  I feel bad for the uncle who (hopefully) was trying to encourage the kid to leave.  I feel bad for the survivors who will miss him.

Ever since I became a dad I can't handle the idea of kids being scared.  This terrifies me so badly to imagine my kid ever being in a situation like that.


God needed someone to kick some ass somewhere and this kid got an early call up from the minorleagues. He was indeed a hero though I'm sure he didn't think of his actions as heroic.
 
2014-01-22 04:24:45 PM
Tyler, spending the night at his grandfather's place because school was off for Martin Luther King Jr. Day,

So a child is dead because of MLK. Not so saintly now, is he?

/jk
 
2014-01-22 04:33:56 PM
Who the fark is cutting all those dammed onions in here?

If only one person whoever got the hero tag deserved it, would be this kid.
 
2014-01-22 04:47:21 PM

stuhayes2010: What adult allowed this kid to run back into a burning trailer?


this.
A thousand times this.
 
2014-01-22 05:01:25 PM

NoDitchDigging: Once in a while you read about an act of unbelievable sacrifice that would make even Chuck Norris shed a tear or two.  This is one of those times.


This.

RIP, hero
 
2014-01-22 06:27:03 PM
Let four captains
Bear Hamlet, like a soldier, to the stage;
For he was likely, had he been put on,
To have proved most royally: and, for his passage,
The soldiers' music and the rites of war
Speak loudly for him.
Take up the bodies: such a sight as this
Becomes the field, but here shows much amiss.
Go, bid the soldiers shoot.
 
2014-01-22 06:49:01 PM
Link to little hero's funeral fund: http://www.youcaring.com/memorial-fundraiser/8-year-old-hero-lost-his - life-in-a-fire-trying-to-save-other/128453

Morally outraged at the number of people and animals in that small little trailer? Do something about it. The fund has surpassed its $15000 goal for the funeral. The poor do not, generally speaking, choose to be poor--especially not in this current economy. Why not help this family find a better place to live--one that is up to code on electrical wiring (from TFA, suspected to be the fire's cause)? At the very least, why not help them replace the clothing and items they lost in this fire? Parts of Upstate New York were -30 this morning--that's no temperature to be homeless and without clothing in. We cannot help this child, but it's a small thing to help the people he died to save, yeah?
 
2014-01-22 08:34:36 PM
DNRTFA.  Who started the fire?

/didn't read any comments either.  I will start now...
 
2014-01-22 09:05:27 PM

HotWingConspiracy: brantgoose: Well bless him. He was a very brave little boy.

But that trailer was a death trap and there should be an investigation into why so many people and animals were allowed to live in such a small space, especially one which was basically a tinder box.

I doubt code enforcers get out to the trailer park very often, if that county even has code enforcement in the budget.


Penfield NY is in Monroe County, it's not some podunk town. There are million dollar homes in that town and it's a suburb of Rochester. The trailer park is wedged between an expressway and the railroad tracks, and has been there for decades. I drive past that park everyday on my way to and from work, and I know plenty of people who have lived in that park or still live there as it's within walking distance of the factory I work at. It's a low rent/cheap purchase option close to the city and to work for many of these people.

The owner died in the fire, there's no reason any code enforcement officer to have inspected that trailer. As for the number of people there, it was a holiday night and some of them were there visiting their grandfather. You've never heard of people spending the night at their relatives, kids sacking out in sleeping bags? Maybe you'd rather have the family bundle up the kids and drive them home after a day of watching football at grandpa's trailer, after maybe enjoying a refreshing beverage or three? The family just might have been doing the responsible thing by staying put that night, only to be killed by an unexpected fire.

/asses like you really bother me
 
2014-01-22 10:57:09 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: Please make sure all your extension cords and appliance cords are in good shape, not overloaded and not covered with empty potato chip bags, rugs or other things that will cause fires. And make sure every room has a smoke detector that is tested regularly.

I'm not saying negligence killed this boy but lots of people die or suffer horrific burns from unsafe electrical cords.


Also, put out yer damn Marlboro before drinking yerself inta a stupor, ya damn hicks.
 
2014-01-22 11:55:17 PM
Teared up a bit. Was attached to my grandfather as well and would have done the same. At least he didn't go alone.
 
2014-01-23 05:58:41 AM

Jesus McSordid: TheShavingofOccam123: Please make sure all your extension cords and appliance cords are in good shape, not overloaded and not covered with empty potato chip bags, rugs or other things that will cause fires. And make sure every room has a smoke detector that is tested regularly.

I'm not saying negligence killed this boy but lots of people die or suffer horrific burns from unsafe electrical cords.

Also, put out yer damn Marlboro before drinking yerself inta a stupor, ya damn hicks.


It was an electrical fire.

/another ass
 
2014-01-23 11:49:19 AM

stuhayes2010: What adult allowed this kid to run back into a burning trailer?


The kind who live in a trailer to begin with.
 
2014-01-23 01:38:20 PM

Four Horsemen of the Domestic Dispute: DNRTFA.  Who started the fire?


We didn't.  It was always burning.
 
2014-01-23 02:30:25 PM

thamike: Four Horsemen of the Domestic Dispute: DNRTFA.  Who started the fire?

We didn't.  It was always burning.


www.nplainfield.org
 
2014-01-23 03:48:17 PM

CheapEngineer: thamike: Four Horsemen of the Domestic Dispute: DNRTFA.  Who started the fire?

We didn't.  It was always burning.

[www.nplainfield.org image 160x159]


Always fun to write new lyrics for that:

Hero kid, trailer park, lots of people post on Fark.
Zimmerman, Martin, Fleetwood Mac reunion.
 
2014-01-23 05:35:32 PM

Snuffybud: HotWingConspiracy: brantgoose: Well bless him. He was a very brave little boy.

But that trailer was a death trap and there should be an investigation into why so many people and animals were allowed to live in such a small space, especially one which was basically a tinder box.

I doubt code enforcers get out to the trailer park very often, if that county even has code enforcement in the budget.

Penfield NY is in Monroe County, it's not some podunk town. There are million dollar homes in that town and it's a suburb of Rochester. The trailer park is wedged between an expressway and the railroad tracks, and has been there for decades. I drive past that park everyday on my way to and from work, and I know plenty of people who have lived in that park or still live there as it's within walking distance of the factory I work at. It's a low rent/cheap purchase option close to the city and to work for many of these people.

The owner died in the fire, there's no reason any code enforcement officer to have inspected that trailer. As for the number of people there, it was a holiday night and some of them were there visiting their grandfather. You've never heard of people spending the night at their relatives, kids sacking out in sleeping bags? Maybe you'd rather have the family bundle up the kids and drive them home after a day of watching football at grandpa's trailer, after maybe enjoying a refreshing beverage or three? The family just might have been doing the responsible thing by staying put that night, only to be killed by an unexpected fire.

/asses like you really bother me


Well put. Slapped the dbag down.
 
2014-01-23 05:48:29 PM

FrancoFile: CheapEngineer: thamike: Four Horsemen of the Domestic Dispute: DNRTFA.  Who started the fire?

We didn't.  It was always burning.

[www.nplainfield.org image 160x159]

Always fun to write new lyrics for that:

Hero kid, trailer park, lots of people post on Fark.
Zimmerman, Martin, Fleetwood Mac reunion.


Lobster bisque
Chairman Mao
freaky how the guns go wow
Popeye wears a popcorn mask
Putrified, blasted vag,
Lemmy gave me herpes in the
punk!
car!
wash!
it's the end of the world and we know it

/whoops
 
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