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(BBC)   Woman who spearheaded anti-alcohol campaigns arrested for driving while five times over the legal limit. Twice. In two weeks   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 87
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-01-22 09:09:22 AM
.36% BAC, if my coversion is accurate.
 
Pud [TotalFark]
2014-01-22 09:39:37 AM
Do as I say, ...not as I do.
 
2014-01-22 10:03:16 AM
Alcohol is a helluva drug.
 
2014-01-22 10:04:20 AM

Pud: Do as I say, ...not as I do.


She'll plead for clemency because she shouldn't be punished...because reasons.

/Was the Irony tag trying to find its keys?
 
2014-01-22 10:06:06 AM
On the first occasion, her alcohol count was 171mcg in 100ml of breath. The legal limit is 35mcg.

worldpics.com.au
 
2014-01-22 10:12:12 AM
That's her on the right, in a rare picture taken whole she was sober.

img.fark.net
 
2014-01-22 10:12:51 AM
Correction: left.
 
2014-01-22 10:15:22 AM

Snowrise: Correction: left.


Correction: "hole"
 
2014-01-22 10:51:31 AM
C'mon, Eileen...

i.telegraph.co.uk
 
2014-01-22 10:51:44 AM
You can't fight something if you don't understand it.  Sometimes, you have to get down and dirty with your enemies to overcome them.

That's also the mantra of my anti-prostitution crusade, by the way.
 
2014-01-22 10:52:34 AM
Mocktail Bar, my eye.
 
2014-01-22 10:53:01 AM
Alcoholics get religion and then fall off the wagon.
 
2014-01-22 10:55:57 AM
If she drinks all the alcohol, then nobody else can have any. Would you rather have one really drunk person driving or a whole lot of people driving drunk?
 
2014-01-22 10:56:30 AM
don't you people see what happened??!!??
she's doing it for us!!!
if she drinks ALL THE ALCOHOL, then we can't be poisoned by the evil devil-water!!!
she's SACRIFICING herself for us... she's like JESUS!!!!
 
2014-01-22 10:57:30 AM

Snort: Alcoholics get religion and then fall off the wagon.


I believe it's on the wagon
 
2014-01-22 10:57:51 AM
Giver her a break: She's just doing research.
 
2014-01-22 10:58:40 AM
I was kind of hoping "five times over the legal limit" meant she was going 325mph, but this is impressive in its own way.
 
2014-01-22 11:02:33 AM
It all begins and ends with Hawthorne.

Whatever behavior an individual rails against, preaches against, wails against, they are doing or they want to do.
 
2014-01-22 11:02:45 AM
What, did you expect her to run those anti-alchohol campaigns while sober?  Do you know how hard that would be?
 
2014-01-22 11:03:01 AM
She is just trying to raise awareness.
 
2014-01-22 11:06:48 AM
she must be madd over getting caught
 
2014-01-22 11:07:33 AM
I don't suppose she's a recovering alcoholic?

//well, not "recovering" anymore, if she was.
 
2014-01-22 11:07:49 AM
Too bad she didn't have any Oscars, BAFTAs, Grammies, Obies, whatever as a child star. She could sell tabloids and gossip rags for 6 months.
 
2014-01-22 11:08:42 AM
Gee, just like the lady who founded MADD and then the later, several presidents of the organization who have all been caught driving while over the limit... tisk tisk tisk!
Should have called the tipsy-taxi, oh that's right they don't support that either, no money in it for them. they only make their money on the actual convictions, not preventions.
Hypocrites!
 
2014-01-22 11:09:56 AM
ive said it before and il say it again. if i was a journalist i would be ALL OVER anyone who vehemently campaigns against/for anything

pro drug testers always turn out to be smoking da crack
anti gay marriage headz are always caught purchasing naughty hispanic ass at some public toilet

and now this
 
2014-01-22 11:10:08 AM

ZAZ: .36% BAC, if my coversion is accurate.


Whoa!

img.fark.net
 
2014-01-22 11:10:15 AM
I'll drink to that!
 
2014-01-22 11:11:10 AM
What a shock. A public "do gooder" and clucking hen of disapproval does exactly what they are "against"

Wouldn't it be great if all these "more moral than though" types could simply face their demons on their own nickel instead of trying to drag the law and all of us in to it?
 
2014-01-22 11:11:47 AM

ZAZ: .36% BAC, if my coversion is accurate.


They use metric percentages over there.
 
2014-01-22 11:12:58 AM

Pud: Do as I say, ...not as I do.


The closeted homosexuals campaign against gay marriage.
The closeted alcoholic campaign for prohibition
The closeted addictive personalities rail against marijuana legalization.

God it just gets so OLD.
 
2014-01-22 11:13:24 AM
I'm starting to think these MADD-type biatches are like anti-gay Republicans.. they are all just hiding their true nature.
 
2014-01-22 11:15:16 AM
This happend to my roomates ex a well know rocket surgeon in the area. He got busted twice in the same month at the same bar that is right next to a police station.
 
2014-01-22 11:15:19 AM
Ahhh yes, an overachiever!
 
2014-01-22 11:17:47 AM
Same reason pedophiles are coaches/clergymen and born again old religious nuts are thieves. At least around here.
 
2014-01-22 11:18:06 AM
I wonder if now, she really might know what it's like?
 
2014-01-22 11:19:01 AM
Hey.  Don't criticize her for who she IS.  Love her for what she wants us all to be.
 
2014-01-22 11:20:00 AM

homelessdude: she must be madd over getting caught


What you did there, I see it, and golfclap slowly in response.
 
2014-01-22 11:22:21 AM
She only does it because it's legal!  If only there were some restrictions she'd have no choice but to alter her behavior!
 
2014-01-22 11:24:08 AM
"General Lack of Behavior" is possibly the greatest symptom I've ever seen.
 
2014-01-22 11:27:46 AM
So sort of like the Vatican being paragons of virtue, except for decades of massive banking fraud and pedophilia.
 
2014-01-22 11:32:08 AM

ZzeusS: So sort of like the Vatican being paragons of virtue, except for decades of massive banking fraud and pedophilia.


ive just discovered for definite (after suspecting for quite some time) that the guy who did our double glazing last winter really ripped us off.

he's really religious

WHAT THE ACTUAL fark!? does he not see the inherent, total, ethical inconsistency?

I'M MAD. AND I'M GETTING MY MONEY BACK
 
2014-01-22 11:34:21 AM
Raw Amateur
www.cbc.ca
 
2014-01-22 11:43:53 AM
The older I get the more I realize the anti-whatever crusaders almost always have one of two skeletons in their closets.  Either they did/do whatever they say they're against, or someone molested them, resulting in an overly high-strung view of the world.

As a result I found myself abiding by my own theory and really moderating, since I was never that much of a trouble-maker or molested.
 
2014-01-22 11:47:27 AM
CSB

A friend of mine had an uncle who was on crack. They got his brother to go over and do a one-on-one intervention. Once the brother gave all his reasons for the uncle to seek treatment, the uncle had one question:

You say it's bad, but have you ever tried it?

And they both been smoking crack ever since.

I guess this lady decided if you can't beat 'em, join em.
 
2014-01-22 11:56:33 AM

IamAwake: I wonder if now, she really might know what it's like?


to have to lose?

Fine.  Be that way.
 
2014-01-22 11:57:56 AM
Mothers
Arrested
Driving
Drunk ?
 
2014-01-22 12:04:39 PM
Just another dependent liberal expecting the Government to solve her problems, eh, guyz?

Conservatives don't go to the Government for help. They never admit they have a problem. They never say die. They'll run you down in a farmer's market before they admit they are blind, senile, and wearing a wig colored with black shoe polish like Ronald Reagan, the Nincompoop whose wife's astrologer and hair dresser ran America for six years or so, give or take a couple.

See also:  Ford, Rob, fat evil slugs and; Ford, Rob, denial not just a river in Egypt; Ford, Betty, drunk tanks for the rich and famous; Ford, Henry, Nazi sympathies of; Ford, salt, things that should be taken with a grain of; Ford, automobiles, propensity to rust or burn out; and Ford, timber, extinction of.
 
2014-01-22 12:07:11 PM

Lady J: ZzeusS: So sort of like the Vatican being paragons of virtue, except for decades of massive banking fraud and pedophilia.

ive just discovered for definite (after suspecting for quite some time) that the guy who did our double glazing last winter really ripped us off.

he's really religious

WHAT THE ACTUAL fark!? does he not see the inherent, total, ethical inconsistency?

I'M MAD. AND I'M GETTING MY MONEY BACK


In my experience the very religious are often the biggest liars and cheats. I would be interested in learning the psychology behind it. Some probably falsely claim to be devout as a shield but many I think genuinely believe.

/double glazing homersimpson.jpg
 
2014-01-22 12:07:53 PM
you would be a raging alcoholic too if you had to deal with those MADD types all the farking time!
 
2014-01-22 12:11:32 PM
It's called alcohol tolerance.   You can kill a 21 year old on his birthday with .20 BAC, you can get some alchoholics with quite high numbers.   When I was working in an ER I had a patient once whose test came back .42% BAC.    He was still pretty lucid and talking.  He'd been stabbed (which is why he was in the ER) and a bit high strung as a result.
 
2014-01-22 12:12:14 PM

Maul555: you would be a raging alcoholic too if you had to deal with those MADD types all the farking time!


Just join DAMM -- Drunks against MADD Mothers.
 
2014-01-22 12:15:17 PM

Lady J: ive said it before and il say it again. if i was a journalist i would be ALL OVER anyone who vehemently campaigns against/for anything

pro drug testers always turn out to be smoking da crack
anti gay marriage headz are always caught purchasing naughty hispanic ass at some public toilet

and now this


You forgot to honor my fave, the "therapist" curing marijuana "addiction".
 
2014-01-22 12:26:30 PM
Good.
 
2014-01-22 12:33:59 PM

thamike: On the first occasion, her alcohol count was 171mcg in 100ml of breath. The legal limit is 35mcg.

[worldpics.com.au image 720x480]


MCG Hammered?
 
2014-01-22 12:43:20 PM

Snort: Alcoholics get religion and then fall off the wagon.


Ding, Ding.

Ex (for the time) addicts are the worst about preaching.
 
2014-01-22 12:49:02 PM

miniflea: In my experience the very religious are often the biggest liars and cheats. I would be interested in learning the psychology behind it. Some probably falsely claim to be devout as a shield but many I think genuinely believe.

/double glazing homersimpson.jpg


Every Sunday I get forgiven for being a dick. Therefore, I'll just be a dick all the time and go to church to be forgiven again. Yay, free pass!
 
2014-01-22 01:00:05 PM

Snowrise: That's her on the right, in a rare picture taken whole she was sober.
[img.fark.net image 500x346]


She looks a little out of it. I bet, like all good drunks, she's got a little bottle in her purse.

IRQ12: Snort: Alcoholics get religion and then fall off the wagon.
Ding, Ding.
Ex (for the time) addicts are the worst about preaching.


Fark you dipshiat. Prove it. I have never done it. Never got religion either. Been sober for over 20 years, and I have a terrible weakness for men who drink too much.

Also, you're an idiot. Every post I've ever seen from you shows it. So I guess I just won't see them anymore.
 
2014-01-22 01:01:27 PM
Reminds me of anti-gay Republican pols.
 
2014-01-22 01:03:10 PM

SpectroBoy: The closeted homosexuals campaign against gay marriage.
The closeted alcoholic campaign for prohibition
The closeted addictive personalities rail against marijuana legalization.

God it just gets so OLD.


We really do need a counterbalance of special interest proponents getting caught trashing their client group, just to even things out. There are lots of flavors of hypocrisy out there, gotta be some of it actually happening. CPS workers flying off the handle about how children are Satan's finger puppets. Homeless shelter organizer accidentally making a remark about how nice it is to sequester 'those people' so he doesn't have to look at them when he walks down the street. Occupy protester giving up the crusade after winning the lottery.
 
2014-01-22 01:03:59 PM

Snowrise: That's her on the right, in a rare picture taken whole she was sober.

[img.fark.net image 500x346]


Well, that ruins my joke about her trying to get to 88 mph to get back to 1985.
 
2014-01-22 01:16:49 PM
It is a pretty stressful job, you know.
 
2014-01-22 01:17:04 PM
cryinoutloud: ...

IRQ12: Snort: Alcoholics get religion and then fall off the wagon.
Ding, Ding.
Ex (for the time) addicts are the worst about preaching.

Fark you dipshiat. Prove it. I have never done it. Never got religion either. Been sober for over 20 years, and I have a terrible weakness for men who drink too much.

Also, you're an idiot. Every post I've ever seen from you shows it. So I guess I just won't see them anymore.


Time for your meds, or maybe a drink.
 
2014-01-22 01:24:17 PM

cryinoutloud: Snowrise: That's her on the right, in a rare picture taken whole she was sober.
[img.fark.net image 500x346]

She looks a little out of it. I bet, like all good drunks, she's got a little bottle in her purse.

IRQ12: Snort: Alcoholics get religion and then fall off the wagon.
Ding, Ding.
Ex (for the time) addicts are the worst about preaching.

Fark you dipshiat. Prove it. I have never done it. Never got religion either. Been sober for over 20 years, and I have a terrible weakness for men who drink too much.

Also, you're an idiot. Every post I've ever seen from you shows it. So I guess I just won't see them anymore.


Every alcoholic in recovery I have met has been very preachy, judgmental, and narcissistic.   This confirms my analysis of anecdotes here on Fark and therefore must be true of everyone.
 
2014-01-22 01:30:03 PM

Lady J: ZzeusS: So sort of like the Vatican being paragons of virtue, except for decades of massive banking fraud and pedophilia.

ive just discovered for definite (after suspecting for quite some time) that the guy who did our double glazing last winter really ripped us off.

he's really religious

WHAT THE ACTUAL fark!? does he not see the inherent, total, ethical inconsistency?

I'M MAD. AND I'M GETTING MY MONEY BACK


In my experience, self-identified "religious, devout, faithful" types are the ones you most need to keep an eye on. The ones I have known have been morally weak, unsophisticated and lacking perspective.

Those that didn't identify as religious, OTOH, have been some of the most ethical, compassionate, intelligent and sophisticated people I've known.
 
2014-01-22 01:30:41 PM

Snort: cryinoutloud: Snowrise: That's her on the right, in a rare picture taken whole she was sober.
[img.fark.net image 500x346]

She looks a little out of it. I bet, like all good drunks, she's got a little bottle in her purse.

IRQ12: Snort: Alcoholics get religion and then fall off the wagon.
Ding, Ding.
Ex (for the time) addicts are the worst about preaching.

Fark you dipshiat. Prove it. I have never done it. Never got religion either. Been sober for over 20 years, and I have a terrible weakness for men who drink too much.

Also, you're an idiot. Every post I've ever seen from you shows it. So I guess I just won't see them anymore.

Every alcoholic in recovery I have met has been very preachy, judgmental, and narcissistic.   This confirms my analysis of anecdotes here on Fark and therefore must be true of everyone.


yeah, but cryinoutloud isnt like that so that clearly means none of them are (or can be).

/duh
 
2014-01-22 01:44:04 PM

Snort: Every alcoholic in recovery I have met has been very preachy, judgmental, and narcissistic


In my own defence, I was that way BEFORE I wound up in detox.
 
2014-01-22 01:47:37 PM
How many weeks go by that another M.A.D.D. Parent gets popped over the legal limit after the boohoo stories about their kid dies?
 
2014-01-22 03:08:08 PM
Demonstrating once again that the ones who complain the loudest about something are frequently the ones who struggle with it personally.
 
2014-01-22 03:13:17 PM

Snowrise: That's her on the right, in a rare picture taken whole she was sober.

[img.fark.net image 500x346]


She was SOBER and she wore that?

Maybe it's best she drinks.

/It's like Rainbow Bright as a washed up Hooter's girl.
 
2014-01-22 03:16:47 PM

Crass and Jaded Mother Farker: She was SOBER and she wore that?


It already looks like woven vomit, so no one would notice if she barfed up a little vodak on it. She was obviously thinking ahead.
 
2014-01-22 03:23:00 PM

fickenchucker: The older I get the more I realize the anti-whatever crusaders almost always have one of two skeletons in their closets.



You would be surprise at the number of anti-gun people arrested on firearms related charges.
 
2014-01-22 03:24:07 PM
Keep coming back! It works if you work it!
 
2014-01-22 03:31:24 PM
You know what they say about people who live in glass houses.

/they should get dressed in the basement.
 
2014-01-22 03:36:38 PM

hasty ambush: fickenchucker: The older I get the more I realize the anti-whatever crusaders almost always have one of two skeletons in their closets.


You would be surprised at the number of anti-gun people arrested on firearms related charges.



I probably would.

/Everyone I know has guns, yet none has gotten in trouble with them.
 
2014-01-22 04:39:18 PM

Skunkwolf: Same reason pedophiles are coaches/clergymen and born again old religious nuts are thieves. At least around here.


And why every psychology major is insane.
 
2014-01-22 04:41:55 PM
Quite a few of the people who see nothiing but evil in anything, are projecting their own weaknesses onto everyone else.
 
2014-01-22 05:11:46 PM
Since shes a neoprophibitionist (that farking drinks and drives) I hope they throw the book at her.
 
2014-01-22 05:42:21 PM

SpectroBoy: ZAZ: .36% BAC, if my coversion is accurate.

They use metric percentages over there.


ZAZ appears to be correct. That site doesn't let me link to the exact results page for the conversion, but, put the units mentioned in TFA into it, and you'll get a result similar to what sie says.

But, if you're measuring breath alcohol content, why would you state the result as an approximation of blood alcohol content?

chewbacca.jpg
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-01-22 06:01:40 PM
iron de havilland

Americans are used to blood alcohol content. We express measurements in equivalent blood alcohol content when measuring breath, even if the underlying law sets alternative breath and blood linits.

I thought I would preempt the "what's that in American?" posts.
 
2014-01-22 06:07:08 PM

iron de havilland: SpectroBoy: ZAZ: .36% BAC, if my coversion is accurate.

They use metric percentages over there.

ZAZ appears to be correct. That site doesn't let me link to the exact results page for the conversion, but, put the units mentioned in TFA into it, and you'll get a result similar to what sie says.

But, if you're measuring breath alcohol content, why would you state the result as an approximation of blood alcohol content?

chewbacca.jpg


img.fark.net
 
2014-01-22 06:32:12 PM

ZAZ: iron de havilland

Americans are used to blood alcohol content. We express measurements in equivalent blood alcohol content when measuring breath, even if the underlying law sets alternative breath and blood linits.


Well... yeah, but BrAC gives you an approximation of BAC. Stating BAC when the measurement is BrAC is disingenuous.

And I don't know how it works in the US, with your MADD and all that - and, admittedly, this may not be true - but common wisdom in the UK is that if the filth want to breathalyze you, you should insist on the blood reading being taken instead. So, you spend a couple of hours in the cells, while they arrange someone to take bloods, allowing your body to metabolise some more of that sweet, lovely booze.

In reality, there's not a lot of police presence on the roads where I am. The polis have decided their easiest way to generate revenue is with speed cameras. Pigs stake out certain points with mobile speed camera units a few times a year, but beyond emergency calls it's rare to see actual filth out and about.

InterruptingQuirk: iron de havilland: SpectroBoy: ZAZ: .36% BAC, if my coversion is accurate.

They use metric percentages over there.

ZAZ appears to be correct. That site doesn't let me link to the exact results page for the conversion, but, put the units mentioned in TFA into it, and you'll get a result similar to what sie says.

But, if you're measuring breath alcohol content, why would you state the result as an approximation of blood alcohol content?

chewbacca.jpg

[img.fark.net image 624x558]


I could have posted a screen cap too, had I wanted to.
 
2014-01-22 06:58:08 PM

iron de havilland: I could have posted a screen cap too, had I wanted to.


Are your toes ok? I didn't make a comment. I just posted the data you were talking about.

/jeez
 
2014-01-22 07:04:54 PM

InterruptingQuirk: iron de havilland: I could have posted a screen cap too, had I wanted to.

Are your toes ok? I didn't make a comment. I just posted the data you were talking about.

/jeez


Thanks, InterruptingQuirk.

/Thirk.
 
2014-01-23 05:57:18 AM

Quackadam: Gee, just like the lady who founded MADD and then the later, several presidents of the organization who have all been caught driving while over the limit... tisk tisk tisk!
Should have called the tipsy-taxi, oh that's right they don't support that either, no money in it for them. they only make their money on the actual convictions, not preventions.
Hypocrites!


What the hell are you talking about?
 
2014-01-23 06:04:50 AM

InterruptingQuirk: ZAZ: .36% BAC, if my coversion is accurate.

Whoa!

[img.fark.net image 846x962]


That chart is only meaningful for teens and first-timers. The more experienced a drunk you become, the more those numbers scale up.

/Sadly.
//I don't begrudge this lady her fall. We've all had life change our opinions, and sought refuge in something or someone we hated at some point. I'd only care if she still was leading a campaign, but obviously not anymore.
 
2014-01-23 09:20:16 AM

foxyshadis: InterruptingQuirk: ZAZ: .36% BAC, if my coversion is accurate.

Whoa!

[img.fark.net image 846x962]

That chart is only meaningful for teens and first-timers. The more experienced a drunk you become, the more those numbers scale up.


How so? That doesn't describe how many drinks it takes to get to that level of blood/alcohol concentration.
 
2014-01-24 02:00:13 AM

InterruptingQuirk: foxyshadis: InterruptingQuirk: ZAZ: .36% BAC, if my coversion is accurate.

Whoa!

[img.fark.net image 846x962]

That chart is only meaningful for teens and first-timers. The more experienced a drunk you become, the more those numbers scale up.

How so? That doesn't describe how many drinks it takes to get to that level of blood/alcohol concentration.


Because drinks to BAC is nearly constant throughout your life, it's the effects that scale. The brain's and liver's ability to cope shifts up and down over the years, based on how much you feed it every day. As a first-timer a round of shots might kill you. Meanwhile there are quite a few old alcoholics who drive well enough on 0.50+ -- and make it on Fark regularly -- when charts like that claim you should be dead or in a coma. Lot of zombies at the wheel, I guess.

I'm not saying it's healthy or tolerance is laudable, but it is real. I mean, there was a Polish guy who was measured at 1.25 BAC after driving. Literally 16 times the legal limit, and still driving (very badly). He survived! Alcohol tolerance works just like any other kind of drug tolerance.
 
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