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2014-01-22 09:48:01 AM
It's been out, what, a year now and I still know no one who has it or any reason to buy it.
 
2014-01-22 09:55:03 AM

stpauler: It's been out, what, a year now and I still know no one who has it or any reason to buy it.


My brother got one for his kids when their original Wii  died.  It is a great system for people with 3 or more kids who like to play Mario.  Seriously his 3 kids will sit down and play co-op Mario, no arguing over turns, and they are having fun together.  This is the reason to buy it but let's face it that is a really small market.
 
2014-01-22 10:29:04 AM

stpauler: It's been out, what, a year now and I still know no one who has it or any reason to buy it.


I have one. I like it and the games for it.  It's great to play a game on while my wife is watching TV.
 
2014-01-22 10:31:29 AM

RedPhoenix122: stpauler: It's been out, what, a year now and I still know no one who has it or any reason to buy it.

I have one. I like it and the games for it.  It's great to play a game on while my wife is watching TV.


I like the zapper for COD. I don't play anything else on it. Kids still play regular Wii games
 
2014-01-22 10:44:56 AM
Wouldn't it make more sense to make some really great new games and franchises for the Wii U instead of spending all the money on the development of a new system which is only going to play another version of Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon?
 
2014-01-22 10:46:03 AM
My step sister has one and loves it, but she is a pretty nerdy gamer and not the rule.
 
2014-01-22 10:51:13 AM
I'm still trying to figure out what the original Wii is supposed to do. Besides collect dust, I mean. I used to use it for Netflix, but now that I have a Netflix-enabled BRD player in my living room, the PS3 has been relegated to the other TV room for that purpose and displaced the one last thing the Wii was doing (and doing poorly, I might add).

This is gonna be just like the Dreamcast, isn't it? A great system that gets no attention, flounders and kills the company off as a hardware maker because it's too little and too late.
 
2014-01-22 10:52:32 AM
All this "WIIU IS DOOMED" talk is just feeding into itself.

It's sold less and doesnt have as many games yet, which is unfortunate, but games can still come out for it, and I havent heard about any of them eating discs.
 
2014-01-22 10:54:18 AM

Alebak: All this "WIIU IS DOOMED" talk is just feeding into itself.

It's sold less and doesnt have as many games yet, which is unfortunate, but games can still come out for it, and I havent heard about any of them eating discs.


It got outsold by two different systems whose basic premises are "fark you consumer, buy us",  so it's not doing well at all.
 
2014-01-22 10:56:00 AM
Nintendo is in trouble and need to change course, but in contrast to what many gamers say, they should NOT "pull a Sega" and get out of the hardware business and only do 3rd party software.  That way lies a long, slow decline.

What they should do is play to their strengths.  Their strength is not in creating a dedicated homeconsole to compete on specs with Sony and MS.  Their biggest strength in hardware has always been handhelds.  The 3DS is overall one of the best systems out there right now, with an outstanding library.  Nintendo should not give that up.

What they should do is start working on a unified next-gen console.  A next-gen, beefed-up 3DS that can integrate easily with an HDTV and output video in HD resolutions, but still functions perfectly well as a portable handheld.  Such a system would play to their strengths, and it wouldn't have to try to compete with the PS4 and Xbone on specs and graphics.  It would just have to be a kick-ass handheld that can easily also serve as a decent living room console.
 
2014-01-22 11:00:58 AM
It's roughly as powerful as consoles that were released in 2005. How anyone could believe it would be anything other than an utter failure is beyond me
 
2014-01-22 11:01:39 AM
Article also mentions a new handheld, which is interesting, given how well the 3DS is doing. It took a price drop and some games to get it rolling, why pull the plug there?
 
2014-01-22 11:02:23 AM
I have one, but it's not my primary gaming machine; for that I use a PC.

It's basically a Mario Machine for me. And Zelda, and Smash Bros, and so on. I for one wouldn't shed a tear if they stopped making consoles entirely and just went full Sega and produced software. Most of their first party titles are great, but their third party support is pathetic.

I don't regret buying one, though. Nearly all the great looking next-gen games will be get PC releases, and the few exclusives PS4 and XB1 have aren't enough to really recommend one over the other (not yet anyway). The Wii U makes sense as your "second gaming machine", since everyone loves Mario and it's good for parties.

But let's get real here; there's no reason ANY game needs to be exclusive to one console (or just consoles in general) any more. The current consoles are little more than PCs in designer cases, any hardware more than a couple years old can be emulated, and the only reason exclusives exist is that either the hardware company owns the franchise (Nintendo) or specifically pay the developers NOT to develop for other platforms (Sony and Microsoft).
 
2014-01-22 11:05:37 AM

stpauler: It's been out, what, a year now and I still know no one who has it or any reason to buy it.


I bought one last summer.  The kids play it, but I do too: it has some fantastic games: Wonderful 101, Zelda, Mario, and so on.  I am waiting for a new Kirby game.  My 3DS is usually what I use the most, however.  Still, even if it is a Mario machine, I can't blame Nintendo.  They've made some awesome games with Donkey Kong, Mario, Zelda, and Kirby, among others (Pikmin drives me nuts).  So, why not?  The money isn't in selling the console, it's in selling the games.
 
2014-01-22 11:05:52 AM
Have they actually done anything fun, new, or interesting with the technology? Or is it still all dance games and waggle gimmicks? That "D&D:U" idea from Penny Arcade sounded cool.
 
2014-01-22 11:08:54 AM

Mentalpatient87: Have they actually done anything fun, new, or interesting with the technology? Or is it still all dance games and waggle gimmicks? That "D&D:U" idea from Penny Arcade sounded cool.


They have finally started getting developers to switch to "off-screen" play, which is great.  If the TV is in use, you can swipe down on the controller and pull the game onto that while the family does something else.  Works wonderfully.
 
2014-01-22 11:09:12 AM
My only complaint about the Wii U we got for Christmas is that the new Mario U game won't load. The disk is visually spotless. I repeatedly get a "Disk can't be read, it's probably dirty or scratched" error. It worked great for a few days, then the error started. Then we packed and shipped it across the country, hooked it up and it worked for a few more days, then more of the error. All other games work fine, even ones that have some sizable scratches.

I hope the Nintendo replacement/repair process is easy.
 
2014-01-22 11:09:51 AM
I wonder why they haven't made a 3ds peripheral usb device for the wii u.  The controller would be the bottom screen, the tv would be the top.
 
2014-01-22 11:11:39 AM

stpauler: It's been out, what, a year now and I still know no one who has it or any reason to buy it.


The new Mario game got great reviews, but I don't know if that's enough to justify buying the console.
 
2014-01-22 11:13:01 AM

Alebak: All this "WIIU IS DOOMED" talk is just feeding into itself.

It's sold less and doesnt have as many games yet, which is unfortunate, but games can still come out for it, and I havent heard about any of them eating discs.


I smell cultish gamer zealot rhetoric. Oh no, someone is saying a gaming company isn't doing well, let's come up with a series of irrational arguments so you can still believe in the power of the tri-force.
 
rpm
2014-01-22 11:14:37 AM
It takes years to tweak hardware and have games available for it. Why would them working on it be a surprise at all?
 
2014-01-22 11:15:30 AM

Doc Daneeka: What they should do is play to their strengths. Their strength is not in creating a dedicated homeconsole to compete on specs with Sony and MS. Their biggest strength in hardware has always been handhelds. The 3DS is overall one of the best systems out there right now, with an outstanding library. Nintendo should not give that up.


But how long is the  market for a dedicated handheld gaming device going to last when phones and tablets improve every year? Going that route they're not competing with Sony and MS, they're competing with every phone and tablet manufacturer out there.

Nintendo's problem is that they went for the casual gaming market. But their products are expensive and the demographic they aimed for is just as happy playing $5 games on their iPad.
 
2014-01-22 11:17:04 AM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: If the TV is in use, you can swipe down on the controller and pull the game onto that while the family does something else.  Works wonderfully.


Yeah, that's cute and all, but I want video games. Not ways to shove my video games to the side for TV. I got an extra TV to play video games on just so I would never have to use such a feature. What have they done as far as video games?
 
2014-01-22 11:22:28 AM
I have one and it's pretty cool. Great video streaming box, controller as an extra tv is awesome. A few good games to play, Pikmin 3, marios, batmans, scribblenauts, monster hunter hd, zombiu, wind waker hd. The VC library and being able to use my original wii vc downloads is nice too.

/off to play Unepic on mine
 
2014-01-22 11:22:57 AM

JonPace: It's roughly as powerful as consoles that were released in 2005. How anyone could believe it would be anything other than an utter failure is beyond me


Being less powerful that competition wasn't a problem for the Wii.

But launching well above a mass market price and not having a lot of 1st party titles to go with it are big problems for the Wii U that still haven't been fully addressed.  And calling it the "Wii U" to begin with isn't doing it any favors either.
 
2014-01-22 11:25:17 AM

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Doc Daneeka: What they should do is play to their strengths. Their strength is not in creating a dedicated homeconsole to compete on specs with Sony and MS. Their biggest strength in hardware has always been handhelds. The 3DS is overall one of the best systems out there right now, with an outstanding library. Nintendo should not give that up.

But how long is the  market for a dedicated handheld gaming device going to last when phones and tablets improve every year? Going that route they're not competing with Sony and MS, they're competing with every phone and tablet manufacturer out there.

Nintendo's problem is that they went for the casual gaming market. But their products are expensive and the demographic they aimed for is just as happy playing $5 games on their iPad.


People keep saying that smartphones and tablets are going to doom gaming handhelds, but it keeps not happening.

The truth is that smartphones and tablets are great for a lot of things, but they aren't very good gaming platforms.  Touchscreen controls suck for gaming.  You can buy a clunky 3rd party bluetooth controller, which may or may not be compatible with the games you want to play.  Speaking of the games, there's no quality control on smartphone app stores, and the market is flooded with 99¢ crapware and stuff plagued with ads and in-app purchases.  Apart from all that, the smartphone and tablet market is so fragmented in terms of hardware and OS that is difficult for developers to make games beyond what will work on the lowest-common denominator.

For all those reasons, I think there will continue to be a market for a capable dedicated gaming handheld with nice integrated buttons and thumbstick controls, and providing a stable and platform for game development.
 
2014-01-22 11:31:24 AM

Doc Daneeka: Nintendo is in trouble and need to change course, but in contrast to what many gamers say, they should NOT "pull a Sega" and get out of the hardware business and only do 3rd party software.  That way lies a long, slow decline.


Sega is doing just fine at this point. It was rocky going there at first, and Sammy had to come in and save them, but they are doing well in the PC market publishing awesome RTSes and they're doing fine in Japan with stuff like Yakuza. Sonic is even good again for the first time since about 1996!

Sega also was a totally wrecked company because of the idiocy of Bernie Stolar and Sega of America. Nintendo doesn't have those same problems. They would make the transition more smoothly. They also have the ability to dominate the handheld market as a crutch for the transition.

However, I do think that Nintendo just made a couple of bad choices here in terms of the WiiU in terms of the naming and making a tablet the central peripheral the console was built around. If they can come up with another peripheral or some sort of awesome handheld/console link, that could bring people right back. They also are cash rich, so they should stick at it and at least try another generation of console before doing anything drastic.

Also, make a new farking StarFox where 90% of the game is in the Arwing, damn it.
 
2014-01-22 11:35:05 AM

Doc Daneeka: People keep saying that smartphones and tablets are going to doom gaming handhelds, but it keeps not happening.


The argument seems to be that people already have one device that can play games on the go, so they're not going to buy another device to play games on the go.  But that argument applies just as well to consoles vs. PCs.  People already have one box that can browse the web, play games and so a lot of other things, so why buy another box that only plays games?  Or why buy a dedicated e-reader instead of just picking up an iPad that does a lot of other things besides reading books?

Turns out that if the price is low enough and the library of titles is compelling enough, these specialized bits of hardware manage to compete just fine.  So I'd argue the biggest problem gaming handhelds have is that they launched at least $50 higher than they should've been and without the software to justify it.
 
2014-01-22 11:35:17 AM

Btw, if you are going to argue that improvements to tablets and smartphones pose a threat to the future of handhelds, you might as well argue that they pose a threat to the future of all video game hardware, including Sony and MS consoles, given that smartphones and tablets can increasingly output to TVs in HD.


However, I don't think dedicated gaming hardware is going anyway, either on the home console or the handheld sides

 
2014-01-22 11:37:44 AM
I own a Wii U console. It allows me to play the small library of Wii U games, all Wii games, my GameCube games and, through emulation, SNES, NES, Genesis/SegaCD, TurboGrafx (and TurboCD), Game Boy Color, Game Boy Advance, Master System and Game Gear games. ScummVM also allows me to play many classic adventure games.
 
2014-01-22 11:39:58 AM
All right, Fark tech experts.

Look at those specs, and tell me how they compare to the PS4 and XBone.
 
rpm
2014-01-22 11:42:38 AM

lemurs: Being less powerful that competition wasn't a problem for the Wii.


I think more often than not the less powerful console won.

/still don't see how the Wii U has a chance
//reserving judgement on whatever comes out next
///Wii U will be dropped like a GCN hot potato when the next comes out
 
2014-01-22 11:44:16 AM
Incidentally, I had just fired up my Wii last night and discovered that I had unspent Wii points on there since god-knows-when.  It's been a long time since I ventured into the Wii Shop, since I don't think it's been updated with any new titles in a year at least.

So anyway, I downloaded Super Mario RPG.  One of those classics I never got around to playing.  Maybe my Wii will wind up getting a little more use.
 
2014-01-22 11:47:48 AM

Doc Daneeka: Incidentally, I had just fired up my Wii last night and discovered that I had unspent Wii points on there since god-knows-when.  It's been a long time since I ventured into the Wii Shop, since I don't think it's been updated with any new titles in a year at least.

So anyway, I downloaded Super Mario RPG.  One of those classics I never got around to playing.  Maybe my Wii will wind up getting a little more use.


Super easy game, but so fun that it doesn't matter. I play it every few years, and it still sucks me right into that world.

Plus, it has like some of the best music ever.
 
2014-01-22 11:48:07 AM

skozlaw: I'm still trying to figure out what the original Wii is supposed to do. Besides collect dust, I mean. I used to use it for Netflix, but now that I have a Netflix-enabled BRD player in my living room, the PS3 has been relegated to the other TV room for that purpose and displaced the one last thing the Wii was doing (and doing poorly, I might add).

This is gonna be just like the Dreamcast, isn't it? A great system that gets no attention, flounders and kills the company off as a hardware maker because it's too little and too late.


At least the Dreamcast had over a dozen quality titles when it finally died.  Right now, the Wii U has New Super Mario Bros. U, and, uh...
 
2014-01-22 11:51:17 AM

lemurs: JonPace: It's roughly as powerful as consoles that were released in 2005. How anyone could believe it would be anything other than an utter failure is beyond me

Being less powerful that competition wasn't a problem for the Wii.


Blue Ocean strategy.  How many times do we have to do this song and dance about the Wii?
 
2014-01-22 11:51:56 AM

Mentalpatient87: whizbangthedirtfarmer: If the TV is in use, you can swipe down on the controller and pull the game onto that while the family does something else.  Works wonderfully.

Yeah, that's cute and all, but I want video games. Not ways to shove my video games to the side for TV. I got an extra TV to play video games on just so I would never have to use such a feature. What have they done as far as video games?


So, it has no bearing on you, personally, and is therefore worthless.  Got it.  Please get on the phone with Nintendo and tell them to build the Homer.
 
2014-01-22 11:52:31 AM
I just hope the next Zelda won't have any waggle controls.  I sucked balls at Skyward Sword.  Other than that, I'll have to get one eventually for the new Xeno game.
 
2014-01-22 11:52:35 AM

Klivian: Article also mentions a new handheld, which is interesting, given how well the 3DS is doing. It took a price drop and some games to get it rolling, why pull the plug there?


Basically, the rumors are they want a combination home/portable system to sell, where you use the portable to stream the home console but also plays its own games. Sorta the PS4/Vita combo but cheaper and with Nintendo games.

3DS isn't a portable that can stream. It has WiFi, but is on par with the PSP's... which is pretty awful. 3DS also just doesn't have enough controls to play home console games. The lack of a second analog stick was a pretty dumb idea.
 
2014-01-22 11:52:35 AM

BarryTheMasterOfSandwich: All right, Fark tech experts.

Look at those specs, and tell me how they compare to the PS4 and XBone.


Top secret info for you: hardware specs aren't really holding games back anymore.
 
2014-01-22 11:52:42 AM

lemurs: JonPace: It's roughly as powerful as consoles that were released in 2005. How anyone could believe it would be anything other than an utter failure is beyond me

Being less powerful that competition wasn't a problem for the Wii.

But launching well above a mass market price and not having a lot of 1st party titles to go with it are big problems for the Wii U that still haven't been fully addressed.  And calling it the "Wii U" to begin with isn't doing it any favors either.


The wii had two things going for it:  An interesting, at first at least, novelty, and a killer marketing campaign.  Pre launch hype was sky high, as people dreamed about games where you could do this or that motion wise.

Sold very well, but wow, probably the biggest disappointment in gaming i've seen.  The hype was no where close to what it could actually do.  Still, had some killer titles here in there.

But a lot of folks felt burned by it, and many are collecting dust.  Nintendo sent it to it's grave long before the wii U was released, and well, the Wii U doesn't have the hype, marketing, or even novelty factor going for it.  IT's left Nintendo is something of a bind.

Their only hope was to get some major titles out for it year 1, to gain sales before the other two consoles hit.  In that, they really didn't succeed, and are fixing to be outsold by the other two consoles in only a handful of months form their release.
 
2014-01-22 11:54:16 AM

Smelly McUgly: However, I do think that Nintendo just made a couple of bad choices here in terms of the WiiU in terms of the naming and making a tablet the central peripheral the console was built around. If they can come up with another peripheral or some sort of awesome handheld/console link, that could bring people right back. They also are cash rich, so they should stick at it and at least try another generation of console before doing anything drastic.


I don't understand why Nintendo seems so averse to competing head to head with Microsoft and Sony. Just look at the Wii U's graphics compared with the PS4 or XB One, as a kid, which one would you want? Talk all you want about gameplay over graphics, but graphics still sell systems and sway opinions.

Then there's interactive stuff you can do with the cameras, more third party games, first party games that are more coveted, and on top of that more M rated games Dad may want to play; the offerings from Sony and Microsoft seem like the clear choice here.

If Nintendo wants to compete long term in the home console market they have to actually make an effort. A gimmick isn't going to cut it.
 
2014-01-22 11:56:35 AM
extroverted_suicide:

At least the Dreamcast had over a dozen quality titles when it finally died.  Right now, the Wii U has New Super Mario Bros. U, and, uh...

I might be too much of a Sega fanboy, but the shame of the Dreamcast is that it had an absurdly high number of quality titles relative to the amount of titles on the console in total. Capcom alone put about fifteen amazing games out (though if you don't like 2D fighters, that number goes down considerably, there's still Gunbird 2, Cannon Spike, Resident Evil: Code Veronica, etc.).

Then you have some of the SNK stuff that is impossible to find on other consoles even now like Fatal Fury: Mark of the Wolves and Last Blade 2 that was beautiful to play and look at.

Sega also had amazing stuff. Everyone loves Shenmue (except for me), but I admit that it still looks amazing at the very least. Jet Grind Radio is great, Virtua Fighter 3tb is great, etc.

The trick is that the Dreamcast probably did arcade ports better than anything because of NAOMI, so if you don't like those kind of games, which make up a number of the best games on the console, I guess the console would be quite less valuable.

I can't think of another console with that many good-to-great games in the general catalog other than the N64, which had a pretty insane amount of great games compared to the amount that actually came out.
 
2014-01-22 11:57:58 AM

Glitchwerks: Wouldn't it make more sense to make some really great new games and franchises for the Wii U instead of spending all the money on the development of a new system which is only going to play another version of Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon?


While I agree they should get some new IP, do Call of Duty, Madden, and NBA Live really require next gen equipment to run?
 
2014-01-22 12:01:33 PM

taxandspend: extroverted_suicide: skozlaw: I'm still trying to figure out what the original Wii is supposed to do. Besides collect dust, I mean. I used to use it for Netflix, but now that I have a Netflix-enabled BRD player in my living room, the PS3 has been relegated to the other TV room for that purpose and displaced the one last thing the Wii was doing (and doing poorly, I might add).

This is gonna be just like the Dreamcast, isn't it? A great system that gets no attention, flounders and kills the company off as a hardware maker because it's too little and too late.

At least the Dreamcast had over a dozen quality titles when it finally died.  Right now, the Wii U has New Super Mario Bros. U, and, uh...

Super Mario 3D World, Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101, Lego City Undercover, Scribblenauts Unlimited, ZombiU, Donkey Kong next month, Runner 2, Rayman Legends, Monster Hunter 3 HD


Some of those aren't even exclusive to the system AFAIK (Lego, Scribblenauts, Runner, Rayman).  Also, this may be moving the goalpost a bit, but quality is subjective and I'm not even interested in any of those except for Mario and Lego City.
 
2014-01-22 12:02:47 PM

meat0918: Glitchwerks: Wouldn't it make more sense to make some really great new games and franchises for the Wii U instead of spending all the money on the development of a new system which is only going to play another version of Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon?

While I agree they should get some new IP, do Call of Duty, Madden, and NBA Live really require next gen equipment to run?


I'm no tech geek, but the issue is that it's easy to port CoD, Madden, etc. from XB1 to PS4 or vice versa, I think the architecture of the WiiU makes it hard to port from PS4/XB1 to the WiiU. That's my understanding (and it is limited, so someone who knows more about this can correct me if I am incorrect).

EA just abandoned the WiiU completely because their games don't sell there. Not enough copies to encourage their dev teams to port the next shiatty Madden game with a dumb collision engine over to the WiiU.
 
2014-01-22 12:04:10 PM

Smelly McUgly: extroverted_suicide:

At least the Dreamcast had over a dozen quality titles when it finally died.  Right now, the Wii U has New Super Mario Bros. U, and, uh...

I might be too much of a Sega fanboy, but the shame of the Dreamcast is that it had an absurdly high number of quality titles relative to the amount of titles on the console in total. Capcom alone put about fifteen amazing games out (though if you don't like 2D fighters, that number goes down considerably, there's still Gunbird 2, Cannon Spike, Resident Evil: Code Veronica, etc.).

Then you have some of the SNK stuff that is impossible to find on other consoles even now like Fatal Fury: Mark of the Wolves and Last Blade 2 that was beautiful to play and look at.

Sega also had amazing stuff. Everyone loves Shenmue (except for me), but I admit that it still looks amazing at the very least. Jet Grind Radio is great, Virtua Fighter 3tb is great, etc.

The trick is that the Dreamcast probably did arcade ports better than anything because of NAOMI, so if you don't like those kind of games, which make up a number of the best games on the console, I guess the console would be quite less valuable.

I can't think of another console with that many good-to-great games in the general catalog other than the N64, which had a pretty insane amount of great games compared to the amount that actually came out.


Crazy Taxi, Skies of Arcadia, Record of Lodoss War, Soul Calibur.  Etc. Etc.  Dreamcast really was a god-tier system.
 
2014-01-22 12:05:42 PM
The problem the Wii U has is that there need to be SEVERAL good games coming out at once to make buying the entire system worth it. I know a lot of people who want to play 2-5 Wii U games but can't justify a entire console purchase over so few games.

/owns a Wii U
//WWHD is one of the best-looking games I've ever seen
///Mario 3D World is tons of fun
 
2014-01-22 12:07:06 PM

meat0918: Glitchwerks: Wouldn't it make more sense to make some really great new games and franchises for the Wii U instead of spending all the money on the development of a new system which is only going to play another version of Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon?

While I agree they should get some new IP, do Call of Duty, Madden, and NBA Live really require next gen equipment to run?


The problem is scaling.  Nintendo created a console that's several steps below the power of the PS4 and Xbox One.  When you have a console that different, developers and publishers are forced to either port the game in very low resolution, or basically design a brand new game for the unique console.  That forces the game makers to decide if they really want to spend that kind of money to push their game on a platform not selling and not likely to sell their product.

EA and to a lesser extent Ubisoft have already made their decision about the Wii-U for the most part.  It could change, but for now publishers are straying from the Wii-U due to it just being too high a risk.
 
2014-01-22 12:09:40 PM

Girl Pants: The problem the Wii U has is that there need to be SEVERAL good games coming out at once to make buying the entire system worth it. I know a lot of people who want to play 2-5 Wii U games but can't justify a entire console purchase over so few games.

/owns a Wii U
//WWHD is one of the best-looking games I've ever seen
///Mario 3D World is tons of fun


I've reached the point where I've spent more on games than the console.  But I could see someone whose favored genre being action not being interested.
 
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