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2014-01-22 09:18:25 AM  
As  much as I hate BDUs (as they are called up here) if all those people are going to savetheweatherchannel.com (or whatever it was) couldn't they just go to theweatherchannel.com and get the weather there?

That way there lives wouldn't be in danger from a rain shower or whatever.
 
2014-01-22 09:19:29 AM  
This letter is why you don't stick your dick in crazy.
 
2014-01-22 09:25:19 AM  
In all fairness, Direct TV has offered an alternate weather channel.  I haven't watched it much like I didn't much watch TWC, but it is there.  If there is a true weather emergency, I'm going to watch my local station first, not TWC.  The only time I watched TWC is to see weather disasters in other areas. like Hurricanes and such.
 
2014-01-22 09:26:11 AM  
DirectTV and the Weather Channel are like internal combustion engine vehicles. All are dying technology. Farm 'em all.
 
2014-01-22 09:27:08 AM  

cygnusx13: DirectTV and the Weather Channel are like internal combustion engine vehicles. All are dying technology. Farm 'em all.


Um. Fark 'em all. FARK, I say!
 
2014-01-22 09:28:32 AM  

cygnusx13: DirectTV and the Weather Channel are like internal combustion engine vehicles. All are dying technology. Farm 'em all.


Why is DirecTv a "dying technology"? I don't know about you, but I don't really like waiting 2 or 3 year to watch my TV series on Netflix. 2 or 4 years behind isn't "cutting edge".
 
2014-01-22 09:32:21 AM  
CEO problems
 
2014-01-22 09:37:35 AM  
The weather channel's whole premise is basically rendered irrelevant by an internet connection.  What kind of leverage could they possibly have?
 
2014-01-22 09:45:19 AM  
I live about 15 miles from TWC.. They cant nail the local weather outside their own window.
Besides, if the weather is that bad.. my satellite doesn't work anyway so I resort to plan A.. my phone and/or internet.
 
2014-01-22 09:47:25 AM  

John the Magnificent: As  much as I hate BDUs (as they are called up here) if all those people are going to savetheweatherchannel.com (or whatever it was) couldn't they just go to theweatherchannel.com and get the weather there?

That way there lives wouldn't be in danger from a rain shower or whatever.


That would be too easy... Besides, they might get distracted by a non-McWeather website in the process...

TWC was great back in '92, now they've just allowed themselves to become irrelevant while trying to demand more and more money, and DirecTV called them out on it.
 
2014-01-22 09:51:23 AM  
It's not like the Weather Channel shows much weather anymore, unless that weather is the twelve most extreme tornado chasers.
 
2014-01-22 09:52:06 AM  
Same thing happened with Viacom a couple years ago. I missed Tosh.0 because of that shiat.
 
2014-01-22 10:02:22 AM  

Mikey1969: cygnusx13: DirectTV and the Weather Channel are like internal combustion engine vehicles. All are dying technology. Farm 'em all.

Why is DirecTv a "dying technology"? I don't know about you, but I don't really like waiting 2 or 3 year to watch my TV series on Netflix. 2 or 4 years behind isn't "cutting edge".


Because people are leaving cable for other modes of entertainment delivery. You may want to hold onto your cable box, but the move away from cable is underway.
 
2014-01-22 10:05:24 AM  
And here's a citation:

http://www.businessinsider.com/cord-cutters-and-the-death-of-tv-2013- 1 1
 
2014-01-22 10:12:36 AM  

cygnusx13: Mikey1969: cygnusx13: DirectTV and the Weather Channel are like internal combustion engine vehicles. All are dying technology. Farm 'em all.

Why is DirecTv a "dying technology"? I don't know about you, but I don't really like waiting 2 or 3 year to watch my TV series on Netflix. 2 or 4 years behind isn't "cutting edge".

Because people are leaving cable for other modes of entertainment delivery. You may want to hold onto your cable box, but the move away from cable is underway.


Why? Once again, the "other modes of entertainment delivery" are years behind, so it isn't an "upgrade" in any way, shape or form.
 
2014-01-22 10:22:00 AM  

Mikey1969: cygnusx13: Mikey1969: cygnusx13: DirectTV and the Weather Channel are like internal combustion engine vehicles. All are dying technology. Farm 'em all.

Why is DirecTv a "dying technology"? I don't know about you, but I don't really like waiting 2 or 3 year to watch my TV series on Netflix. 2 or 4 years behind isn't "cutting edge".

Because people are leaving cable for other modes of entertainment delivery. You may want to hold onto your cable box, but the move away from cable is underway.

Why? Once again, the "other modes of entertainment delivery" are years behind, so it isn't an "upgrade" in any way, shape or form.


That's not much of an issue. Most of their shows are from the past year. I don't really care if something's a little older as long as it's good. And Netflix is getting into making their own shows, some of which are pretty decent. I'd rather choose what I want to watch than have to choose from a list of crappy reality shows that cable offers. Besides, if you really want immediacy, piracy is pretty fast, and an OTA antenna can cover local networks if you really need that.
 
2014-01-22 10:24:21 AM  

Mikey1969: cygnusx13: Mikey1969: cygnusx13: DirectTV and the Weather Channel are like internal combustion engine vehicles. All are dying technology. Farm 'em all.

Why is DirecTv a "dying technology"? I don't know about you, but I don't really like waiting 2 or 3 year to watch my TV series on Netflix. 2 or 4 years behind isn't "cutting edge".

Because people are leaving cable for other modes of entertainment delivery. You may want to hold onto your cable box, but the move away from cable is underway.

Why? Once again, the "other modes of entertainment delivery" are years behind, so it isn't an "upgrade" in any way, shape or form.


Yes, of course, the established technology is still dominant as it's had a 30 to 40 year headstart. Will it die off completely? Probably not.

But its relevancy has peaked and will continue to wane as it's replaced by newer solutions. Again, YOU may want to hold onto it, but hundreds of thousands, if not millions of others have left these things behind.

So, a story about DirecTV and TWC fighting over distribution reads, to me, like rats fighting over a chunk of cheese on the Titanic.
 
2014-01-22 10:35:49 AM  
This was the last straw for me, I gave up on TWC as a weather information service at this point:
img.fark.net
 
2014-01-22 10:36:21 AM  

Orgasmatron138: Same thing happened with Viacom a couple years ago. I missed Tosh.0 because of that shiat.


You're welcome.
 
2014-01-22 10:42:02 AM  
 
2014-01-22 10:44:08 AM  

Ayatollah of Rock-n-Rolla: In all fairness, Direct TV has offered an alternate weather channel.  I haven't watched it much like I didn't much watch TWC, but it is there.  If there is a true weather emergency, I'm going to watch my local station first, not TWC.  The only time I watched TWC is to see weather disasters in other areas. like Hurricanes and such.


Exactly, TWC has sucked since they started having other programs and not just the weather. Local stations can give you a lot more detail for your area anyway.
 
2014-01-22 11:00:47 AM  

Thoguh: The weather channel's whole premise is basically rendered irrelevant by an internet connection.  What kind of leverage could they possibly have?


That's been my thinking all along. I haven't watched The Weather Channel for anything other than major storm coverage in forever. I get my local forecasts from their website or from the local news. If I'm going to travel somewhere, I get those forecasts online.

TWC has made themselves almost completely irrelevant. DirecTV has recognized that and they probably know that their subscribers aren't watching that channel, so it's not worth it to pay what the channel wants.
 
2014-01-22 11:02:54 AM  
TWC's letter claims that the DirecTV blackout puts Americans at risk by denying them access to the severe weather information they rely on.

But the irony is that during severe weather, you'll probably lose your DirecTV reception and won't be able to watch it in the first place.
 
2014-01-22 11:05:01 AM  

cygnusx13: Mikey1969: cygnusx13: DirectTV and the Weather Channel are like internal combustion engine vehicles. All are dying technology. Farm 'em all.

Why is DirecTv a "dying technology"? I don't know about you, but I don't really like waiting 2 or 3 year to watch my TV series on Netflix. 2 or 4 years behind isn't "cutting edge".

Because people are leaving cable for other modes of entertainment delivery. You may want to hold onto your cable box, but the move away from cable is underway.


DirectTV is SATELLITE, not cable.

Speaking of "other modes", your link doesn't work.

Until that technology allows someone to just walk up to the TV, turn on the device and the set and flip channels it's a non-issue. Not to mention matching the picture and sound quality, channel selection, no "buffering" issues, etc. Broadcast TV is still around after 70 years. So you might convince yourself or someone else about "dying technology", but that doesn't make it true.
 
2014-01-22 11:08:58 AM  

peterthx: cygnusx13: Mikey1969: cygnusx13: DirectTV and the Weather Channel are like internal combustion engine vehicles. All are dying technology. Farm 'em all.

Why is DirecTv a "dying technology"? I don't know about you, but I don't really like waiting 2 or 3 year to watch my TV series on Netflix. 2 or 4 years behind isn't "cutting edge".

Because people are leaving cable for other modes of entertainment delivery. You may want to hold onto your cable box, but the move away from cable is underway.

DirectTV is SATELLITE, not cable.

Speaking of "other modes", your link doesn't work.

Until that technology allows someone to just walk up to the TV, turn on the device and the set and flip channels it's a non-issue. Not to mention matching the picture and sound quality, channel selection, no "buffering" issues, etc. Broadcast TV is still around after 70 years. So you might convince yourself or someone else about "dying technology", but that doesn't make it true.


Ok, dinosaur. You clutch your remote, your home telephone and your aol email account. The next generation is already laughing at you.
 
2014-01-22 11:29:57 AM  
This isn't that big of a deal.  TWC is useless on DirecTV and Dish Network because anytime it starts raining or the wind starts blowing your signal will go out anyway.

So glad to have switched off of Dish.  In 8 years of Fios, I think we have had 1 outage that lasted about an hour or so.
 
2014-01-22 11:30:52 AM  

cygnusx13: Ok, dinosaur. You clutch your remote, your home telephone and your aol email account. The next generation is already laughing at you.


I hope you don't represent the next generation because if factual errors were comedic material your posts would be the funniest thing of the decade.

/are you saying streaming media devices don't have remotes, genius?
//AOL is still around, haven't used it since 1997 but it is still around
///actually work in this field so leave the tech answers to the adults
 
2014-01-22 11:32:34 AM  
The thing about The Weather Channel is that they believe they have a "patent," so to speak, to forecast severe weather. If anything, people will most likely own a weather radio if they live in an area that has frequent storms.
 
2014-01-22 11:45:34 AM  
The Weather Channel went MTV years ago. I can get local weather from local broadcast sources, and my tropical weather from the National Hurricane Center online.

On Twitter Xfinity/Comcast is piling on DIRECTV to help out TWC, its incestuous corporate sibling.
 
2014-01-22 11:47:07 AM  

cygnusx13: And here's a citation:

http://www.businessinsider.com/cord-cutters-and-the-death-of-tv-2013- 1 1


That's an impressive collection of statistics that make things look a lot worse than they really are.

I'm not going to deny that television viewership is down, but it's not nearly as drastic as you make it seem, especially when it concerns mobile and internet viewing.  For example, while the average person spends 35 hours per week watching traditional television (including DVR), they spend less than 3 hours per week watching video on the internet or on their phones.  Even among younger demographics, television viewing vastly outweighs online and mobile viewing, with the latter representing less than 15% of viewing among 18-24-year-olds.

The most surprising numbers are among streamers.  If you break out the 20% of the population who stream the most, they represent 86.7% of all streaming activity yet only stream about 22 minutes per day, compared with almost 4 hours per day of traditional television watching.  The data seem to imply that, right now anyway, the vast majority of streaming is done as a supplement to traditional viewing, not as a replacement.

In fact, the number of actual "cord-cutters" (homes with broadband internet but no cable is still less than five percent, compared with 89.6% of television homes that have either cable or satellite televisions.

Because the big thing that your article ignores is that while cable television subscriptions are decreasing, satellite and telco subscriptions are increasing, so the total percentage of pay television subscribers is still hovering around 90%.

The biggest enemy to television right now is the DVR.  Mobile viewing is growing, but the numbers imply that the share they are taking is coming from internet users, not television users (year-to-year growth in mobile viewing was 14.7m viewers while video internet users decreased by 13.5m viewers, meanwhile TV viewers increased about 1m viewers).  It's DVR use that is continuing to eat into traditional television viewing, but what we're also seeing is that ad rates are increasing while networks are getting advertisers to pay for 3-day DVR viewing and there are indications that they may be moving toward 7-day viewing soon as well.  So while they may be getting fewer eyeballs, those that are left are more valuable now.

Pay television is definitely no longer in a boom phase and there are certainly areas that are going to be in trouble soon (I think cable sports costs are a bubble that's about to burst), but to say that cable TV is "dying" when 90% of television households (which themselves represent 97% of all households) still have some form of pay television (a number that's virtually unchanged from 2012) is just wrong.

citation: http://www.nielsen.com/content/dam/corporate/us/en/reports-downloads/ 2 013%20Reports/The-Cross-Platform-Report-A-Look-Across-Media-3Q2013.pdf (Warning: PDF)
 
2014-01-22 11:47:22 AM  
I honestly can't understand the stupidity behind some of these channels altering their network because "the business model" says "it won't make money".  Do they expect to make more money by altering what they do best?
 
2014-01-22 11:56:48 AM  
When I was visiting family around Christmas, my parents had TWC on in the hotel room. They seemed to be OK with weather reports, but then they started talking about Santa tracking (this was on 12/23). I get that Santa tracking is a cute thing to do for the kids, but they were going way overboard with it, and I just had to change the channel.

Also, what's with all the crap on weather.com these days? For at least a month, I been seeing the headline "Groom killed hours after wedding, wife feet away" on the site. That sounds terrible and sad, and totally not related to weather, but I guess it drives clicks so they've been keeping it around.
 
2014-01-22 11:58:29 AM  
Dear Weather Channel,

Please return to actually showing the weather and people might actually care.
 
2014-01-22 12:01:19 PM  

ChewbaccaJones: This isn't that big of a deal.  TWC is useless on DirecTV and Dish Network because anytime it starts raining or the wind starts blowing your signal will go out anyway.

So glad to have switched off of Dish.  In 8 years of Fios, I think we have had 1 outage that lasted about an hour or so.


Actually it depends a lot on how your dish was installed and how often you have the dish fine tuned. I lose power in storms more than I lose Directv. I will get the pixel party but it's not too bad.

I was going to go with Fios when they first him my area but no NFL ticket and (at the time) no Center Ice meant no dice for me. Plus their lack of HD channels were sad. I had friends sign up and they were pretty frustrated the first year or so of Fios. Seemed they had a lot of receiver/DVR problems. I'm sure they've all been fixed, this was back in 2005.

I did get the Fios internet in 2005 and loved it but finally dropped it when they started jacking around people who refused to bundle.

From 2005-2008 my 25/5 connection was $49.99 a month. By 2009, they dropped me to 15/5, then they started charging me equipment fee, my ONT battery died and wanted me to pay $120 for a new battery (got one off the internet for less that $20 shipped) and eventually they raised my price to $69.99. They gave me no choice but to cancel.

I still get "come back to Verizon" stuff in the mail a couple of times a month. I check the prices often. To get comparable TV package bundled with 15/5 internet + fees, they are about $20 a month more then my Directv package + current 10/2 internet.

Sad cause I really like the internet service.

Oh, TWC was off Directv? I had no idea. I'm ok with leaving em off and lowering my bill.
 
2014-01-22 12:01:50 PM  
www,weather,gov

That is all you need to know
 
2014-01-22 12:15:56 PM  
Just got a letter in the mail from directv yesterday that I couldn't understand. Just a bunch of jibberish on a page.  Then I turned it over and read they're raising the rates again.

First you send me a letter in spanish, then you tell you're charging me more?

This angers Ted Nugent!
 
2014-01-22 12:26:21 PM  

steamingpile: TWC has sucked since they started having other programs and not just the weather. Local stations can give you a lot more detail for your area anyway.


Aside from the fact that people can find weather information faster from the internet now, TWC's big problem is that they set themselves up for failure by providing local weather every 10 minutes.  That was fine when they weren't such a huge operation, but now, if the average viewer spends a max of 10 minutes on the channel before moving on, they don't count enough towards the ratings, without which TWC can't charge enough for ads to fund their operations.  So in order to hold viewers longer, they've gone to the long-format programs that nobody really likes.  On top of that, some of those programs are now in syndication (another revenue source), so they have even more motivation to stick with them.

There's really no easy way out of this for TWC unless they dramatically revamp their long-form programming to keep it new and relevant.  The problem with that, of course, is it's more expensive than putting a couple cameras with a towing company in Canada.
 
2014-01-22 12:33:25 PM  

wxboy: steamingpile: TWC has sucked since they started having other programs and not just the weather. Local stations can give you a lot more detail for your area anyway.

Aside from the fact that people can find weather information faster from the internet now, TWC's big problem is that they set themselves up for failure by providing local weather every 10 minutes.  That was fine when they weren't such a huge operation, but now, if the average viewer spends a max of 10 minutes on the channel before moving on, they don't count enough towards the ratings, without which TWC can't charge enough for ads to fund their operations.  So in order to hold viewers longer, they've gone to the long-format programs that nobody really likes.  On top of that, some of those programs are now in syndication (another revenue source), so they have even more motivation to stick with them.

There's really no easy way out of this for TWC unless they dramatically revamp their long-form programming to keep it new and relevant.  The problem with that, of course, is it's more expensive than putting a couple cameras with a towing company in Canada.



And on top of that, it's appointment viewing (meaning people know the exact minute which to tune in), which doesn't scream long-term viewing.

All TWC does is re-broadcast the National Weather Service's forecasts (aka weather.gov).

TWC really jumped the shark when they started naming winter storms.
 
2014-01-22 12:39:02 PM  
I left DirecTV because they didn't have Pac 12 Network. It's my understanding that they still don't, which sucks for our local sports bars that have DirecTV (for the NFL package) but can't show the college basketball games most people here want to watch.

I can't remember the last time I watched TWC. I'm sure it was in an airport, though. I can't imagine people would leave DTV due to it not having The Weather Channel.
 
2014-01-22 12:46:47 PM  
Let's not lose focus on what is important here ...
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-01-22 01:00:24 PM  
Add me to the list of people who no longer watch TWC.  Unless there's a huge storm in the Northeast, their programming consists of shows only vaguely connected to weather.  As someone else said, it's similar to what MTV went through.  I do check weather.com, though.

Does TWC still have a revolving door of hottie presenters who get pregnant two months after they start?
 
2014-01-22 02:39:40 PM  
I only watch TWC now because my old local (NY1) is not carried on FiOS. (NY1 is TWC owned).

But now that TWC has gotten so dramatic over storms lately, i dont even bother with them anymore.
 
2014-01-22 02:57:16 PM  
First of all the weather channel is a terrible way to get the weather. You can tune in and wait until they get around to it, or hop on the web and get a local forecast in seconds.

Secondly, they do less weather everyday day. They are to weather what MTV is to music videos.
 
2014-01-22 03:08:05 PM  
I hate the weather Channel. They are a pain in the ass. They pull all kinds of crap with cable operators. Trying to get them to do exclusive deals with them. And then theirs the whole crap with weather.com and the proposed weather domain. I agree with what the CEO of DTV said. We wanted a weather channel. Not another reality show network. But they all suck. I remember when CNN was 24 hour news. If something happened. Even in the middle of the night. They where covering it. Now they are all crap.
 
2014-01-22 04:52:09 PM  
Wait, this did not come from TWC. If it did, wouldn't it have been titled "Open Letter Oscar" or "Open Letter Olivia"?
 
2014-01-22 05:55:42 PM  
Wait...I've had DirectTV for about 15 years now.  You mean to tell me The Weather Channel was available this whole time?

/represents exactly how often I watch TWC
 
2014-01-22 06:04:24 PM  
Winter Storm Anus!
 
2014-01-22 07:44:03 PM  
Haven't had TWC since I dropped cable a few years ago but I do remember some fapable weather ladies on there.  Is this still the case?
 
2014-01-22 07:48:21 PM  
Well I just checked the "Personalities" lineup on the website and the answer is a resounding "No".
 
2014-01-22 08:19:16 PM  

Betep: Winter Storm Anus!



retired....
 
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