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(io9)   Just in case you didn't think spiders were creepy enough already, now they are building statues of themselves using leaves and dead bugs   (io9.com) divider line 52
    More: Weird, spiders, convergent evolution, statues, bugs  
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2014-01-22 12:04:03 AM  
scienceblogs.com
 
2014-01-22 12:21:33 AM  
Nuke it from orbit its the only way to be sure
 
2014-01-22 12:21:49 AM  
The G.I.F.T.S.?
 
2014-01-22 12:26:46 AM  
 
2014-01-22 12:27:36 AM  
newswatch.nationalgeographic.com

www.inc.com

The spiders are just expressing themselves, man.
 
2014-01-22 12:27:37 AM  
Booga booga! It R teh BIG spidey!

Obviously, this spider was simply waiting for Fark Archnaphobes to come along, so that when they spew their lunch and fear sweat, it can reap the windfall of flies that will gather to collect their sweet leavings.

Very tricksy...
 
2014-01-22 12:28:17 AM  
NOPE
 
2014-01-22 12:28:18 AM  
Dead bug? Check.

farm5.staticflickr.com
 
2014-01-22 12:36:31 AM  
Reeves and Torres don't yet know why two spiders, a world apart, are building decoys in their webs.

Because AAAAAHHHHHH!!! AAAAAHHHH!!!!
 
2014-01-22 12:39:33 AM  
Very cool. I see someone in the comments illustrated what I thought: that the decoy looks like a B5 Shadow vessel.
 
2014-01-22 12:42:15 AM  
OK eff you subby for the bs...your headline sucks...

img.fark.net
 
2014-01-22 12:44:36 AM  

24.media.tumblr.com
Spider thread! Spider thread!
Wednesday's starting off in good stead!
Please sit still....Don't make noise!
I'm at work....on decoys!
Hey there.....Here comes the spider thrrrread!

 
2014-01-22 12:44:46 AM  
Or, maybe all that junk is just suppose to be camouflage. You know, so the web doesn't look very web like.
 
2014-01-22 12:49:28 AM  

DigitalCoffee: Or, maybe all that junk is just suppose to be camouflage. You know, so the web doesn't look very web like.


It's not working, because it still looks like a web, just a very dirty one. Maybe they're teenage spiders who don't want to clean their webs and their moms are nagging at them all the time?
 
2014-01-22 12:50:47 AM  
Oh look, IO9 is stealing from Cracked again...is it a day that ends in 'Y'?
 
2014-01-22 12:52:31 AM  
Lets use the javeline to kill these creepy big dangerous BIG Spidersss ...... common you 8 legged creature ... you can not survive now ..... here come my missile ....


www.army-technology.com
 
2014-01-22 12:55:20 AM  
i182.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-22 12:56:09 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Reeves and Torres don't yet know why two spiders, a world apart, are building decoys in their webs.

Because AAAAAHHHHHH!!! AAAAAHHHH!!!!


haha ... :-) .... tooo smart .. :-)
 
2014-01-22 01:00:41 AM  

buckler: Very cool. I see someone in the comments illustrated what I thought: that the decoy looks like a B5 Shadow vessel.


Sadly, JMS got the timeline wrong. The Shadows have a LONG way to go before they get to this.

media.tumblr.com

Unless, of course, the spiders are signaling their Masters, that humans are ripe for the harvest...
 
2014-01-22 01:03:50 AM  
Trippy.
 
2014-01-22 01:03:51 AM  
so that means that if a spider can build a fake spider, with the correct number of legs and all, that they have some sense of self- perception? interesting.
 
2014-01-22 01:14:31 AM  

Gyrfalcon: DigitalCoffee: Or, maybe all that junk is just suppose to be camouflage. You know, so the web doesn't look very web like.

It's not working, because it still looks like a web, just a very dirty one. Maybe they're teenage spiders who don't want to clean their webs and their moms are nagging at them all the time?


That's sort of what I was thinking when I saw the pic. It really just looks like a web that has seen a lot of damage that the spider hasn't fixed yet. Of course all the bugs and leaves get organized into lines, because that's where the strongest strands are (the middle missing ones are the sticky strands). Makes sense that the spider would wrap them up and stick them on the strongest shelf, so to speak.

/always amuses me when there are much simpler explanations for what seem to be amazing, coordinated, or advanced behavior in both humans and animals
//bonus if it includes anthropomorphizing
 
2014-01-22 01:16:04 AM  

wantingout: so that means that if a spider can build a fake spider, with the correct number of legs and all, that they have some sense of self- perception? interesting.


Yeah, that was a really intriguing aspect.  I just I don't think of other critters- especially non-mammals as being able to represent other figures.
 
2014-01-22 01:18:43 AM  
Batman has his bat signal, spiders have theirs.

Shine a light behind that thing so the silhouette shines on the clouds and see what happens.
 
2014-01-22 01:28:23 AM  

wantingout: so that means that if a spider can build a fake spider, with the correct number of legs and all, that they have some sense of self- perception? interesting.


That is impressive. The number of times I've seen a human make a drawing of a spider, or even create a piece of jewellery of a spider, only to give it six legs instead of eight, is astounding. Turns out even spiders are smarter than these people.
 
2014-01-22 01:31:27 AM  

WordsnCollision: Dead bug? Check.


Hahahahahaha! Now that is cool.
 
2014-01-22 01:41:31 AM  

Apos: [24.media.tumblr.com image 448x252]
Spider thread! Spider thread!
Wednesday's starting off in good stead!
Please sit still....Don't make noise!
I'm at work....on decoys!
Hey there.....Here comes the spider thrrrread!


i.imgur.com
 
2014-01-22 01:54:31 AM  
Not now, subbs.There was a fark link couple few years ago about one species. This article is saying they found another completely different species doing the same thing half way across the world.
 
2014-01-22 02:06:19 AM  

fusillade762: Apos: [24.media.tumblr.com image 448x252]
Spider thread! Spider thread!
Wednesday's starting off in good stead!
Please sit still....Don't make noise!
I'm at work....on decoys!
Hey there.....Here comes the spider thrrrread!

[i.imgur.com image 500x360]


Aww look at that little fella. You have to appreciate jumping spiders. I mean, pretty much all true spiders are just wee engines of death, but jumping spiders have balls. Other spiders will weave webbed traps, they'll hide under trap doors and just drag something down into a dark pit that ends in anguish and a long paralyzed night, and some of the web spinners aren't exactly small, but jumping spiders just don't give a f*ck. Robber fly, bigger than it is? It will just go and murder the sh*t out of one, just because. Hey, is that bug in another spider's web? Screw that, he's going to go murder the sh*t of it, first, just because. Bees? Jumping spiders say "lunch." Is that spider moving way too slow? It's on the menu too. Jumping spiders are just wee murder machines that just simply do not care that they're supposed to have webs and be timid. Bird coming? OK, I'mma jump out of here, and then I'm coming back. Jumping spiders are the honey badgers of the spider world.

Look at this li'l fella doing his thing for the camera...
 
2014-01-22 02:10:22 AM  

Nidiot: wantingout: so that means that if a spider can build a fake spider, with the correct number of legs and all, that they have some sense of self- perception? interesting.

That is impressive. The number of times I've seen a human make a drawing of a spider, or even create a piece of jewellery of a spider, only to give it six legs instead of eight, is astounding. Turns out even spiders are smarter than these people.


correct number of legs indeed
 
2014-01-22 02:14:32 AM  

hubiestubert: Look at this li'l fella doing his thing for the camera...


I'll see your spider and raise you praying mantis versus hummingbirds.

However, nothing beats the ITG-like attitude of an itty-bitty jumping spider with its two front legs up. Like you're really going to fark me up, dude. Too cute.
 
2014-01-22 02:36:14 AM  

WordsnCollision: Dead bug? Check.

[farm5.staticflickr.com image 640x426]


Heh, If that is the one in Oklahoma, its like 2 miles from my aunts house in Noble. Driven past that thing a few times
 
2014-01-22 03:54:44 AM  
Ho Hum
 
2014-01-22 04:23:29 AM  
So, is this phenomenon hardwired into their little spidey brains? Or does this mean spiders are self aware?

SENTIENT SPIDERS? no thanks!
 
2014-01-22 04:34:58 AM  
Kinda reminds me of...:

www.startrekmedia.com
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-01-22 04:35:18 AM  

Devil's Playground: Ho Hum


This, right here, is the kind of nuanced and insightful commentary that keeps me coming back to Fark day after day.

Well played, Devil's Playgroud. Well played.
 
2014-01-22 06:57:12 AM  
Fascinating creatures, ridiculously smart for their size. Their brains grow right into their legs.  I, for one, welcome our new spider overlords.

But don't worry.  If they're making fake spiders out of leaves, then eventually they'll use wicker, and that can mean only one thing:  A re-make with Nicholas Cage.  And with their newfound self-awareness, that will shame them back into obscurity.
 
2014-01-22 08:27:10 AM  
Fark this day I'm going back to bed...
 
2014-01-22 08:42:39 AM  
has left scientists wondering how the behavior evolved and if the decoys serve as lures for prey or as an anti-predator defense system

...or, it's a good way to deter those big, dumb mammals from walking through the web you spent all day making?
 
2014-01-22 08:54:59 AM  

irgunner: So, is this phenomenon hardwired into their little spidey brains? Or does this mean spiders are self aware?


Well, if only a few spiders within a species is doing this, and the rest is making effigies of something random like a rhino and some are even making spider porn, then yes, they are self aware.

If most members of a species are making the same model of a spider, then it is instinctive.

I guess the use for this could be giving the spider ample enough time to escape a bird going 'wtf is this I'm trying to eat?'.

While the jumping spiders have great eyesight, the more sessile web builders don't have that much use for good eyes (an expenditure), so I don't see the effifies as territorial marker or anything in that sense - besides they usually communcate stuff like mating through hormones.

Maybe it's more of a warning sign to make bigger and more self aware animals not walk through the web and continuously farking up shiat for the spider.

And how does nature make a stop sign?
It puts a huge farking spider on it, that's how!
 
2014-01-22 09:01:05 AM  
What's wrong with a guy building himself a girlfriend? Should they not have done that?
 
2014-01-22 09:14:34 AM  
Spiders are, for the most part, our pals. Man up.
 
2014-01-22 09:45:09 AM  
Let me manage my lizard bag...


//I you know what I mean
 
2014-01-22 10:22:59 AM  
There's some really conspicuous info missing, like... is this just a coincidence?
I'm with Peki, think this is more a matter of reinforced threads in the web, short of tearing it down and spinning a whole new one.

The scientific thing to do would be to swipe that web and break it completely, and set up camp to watch the little guy's next web to see if a similar pattern is built into it or not. I can't imagine what kind of advantage a spider would gain by building a web that screams "HEY LOOK SPIDER OVER HERE". It's not like the spider's going to be trapping birds with that trick, they're just going to wreck the web constantly.
 
2014-01-22 10:34:55 AM  

Syrrh: . I can't imagine what kind of advantage a spider would gain by building a web that screams "HEY LOOK SPIDER OVER HERE".


I would imagine that a display like that would not be for predatory reasons, but for mating reasons.  Like pretty much every other "Hey, look at this!!" display in the animal kingdom.
 
2014-01-22 10:47:07 AM  

PreMortem: Not now, subbs.There was a fark link couple few years ago about one species. This article is saying they found another completely different species doing the same thing half way across the world.


There are spider users on fark?  More likely than you think.
 
2014-01-22 11:38:01 AM  

A Leaf in Fall: Syrrh: . I can't imagine what kind of advantage a spider would gain by building a web that screams "HEY LOOK SPIDER OVER HERE".

I would imagine that a display like that would not be for predatory reasons, but for mating reasons.  Like pretty much every other "Hey, look at this!!" display in the animal kingdom.


I honestly have no idea how spider booty calls work or how good their vision is to recognize something like that, but it still seems odd. They could stick any kind of pattern in though, as long as the species cn identify the shape. Doesn't need to be a spider, they could draw an X, or a £, or a shocker, or a Superman logo. At least those things wouldn't have birds swooping in trying to grab a big fake spider.
 
2014-01-22 11:40:50 AM  

balancing act: wantingout: so that means that if a spider can build a fake spider, with the correct number of legs and all, that they have some sense of self- perception? interesting.

Yeah, that was a really intriguing aspect.  I just I don't think of other critters- especially non-mammals as being able to represent other figures.


Animals can surprise you, even tiny little ones. But this concept is pretty ground-breaking.

Consider for moment that even a simple lizard will try to establish eye contact to try to understand your intentions. That speaks volumes.
 
2014-01-22 02:12:32 PM  

Devolving_Spud: has left scientists wondering how the behavior evolved and if the decoys serve as lures for prey or as an anti-predator defense system

...or, it's a good way to deter those big, dumb mammals from walking through the web you spent all day making?


Actually they didn't find out until it was too late that the spiders preferred meal is scientists.
 
2014-01-22 02:48:38 PM  

hubiestubert: buckler: Very cool. I see someone in the comments illustrated what I thought: that the decoy looks like a B5 Shadow vessel.

Sadly, JMS got the timeline wrong. The Shadows have a LONG way to go before they get to this.

[media.tumblr.com image 484x415]

Unless, of course, the spiders are signaling their Masters, that humans are ripe for the harvest...


We do not have a reliable source of telepaths to pilot their ships.
 
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