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(Daily Mail)   Homeland Security detains man for 3 hours after he wears Google Glasses to the movies. Feel safer, citizen?   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 255
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2014-01-21 10:39:41 PM  

rebelyell2006: mbillips: cman: Mangoose: No. fark you. This doesn't go this way. Glassbag should have been sensible enough to understand that the was pointing a recording device at the farking movie screen. HOW THE fark ELSE WAS THIS GOING TO END? If he brought a camcorder or pointed his cell phone at the screen, this goes the same way.

farking douche.

I think people are more upset at who the interrogators were.

Homeland Security should just be that, Homeland Security. What does movie piracy have to do with terrorism?

The FBI is part of the Department of Homeland Security (as is the Coast Guard). There are no actual "Homeland Security" counterterrorism forces tracking down all the fictional and/or broke-ass wannabe Al Qaeda cells. What there is is crime, like movie piracy, which the FBI investigates under federal law.

The FBI is an agency in the Department of Justice.


My bad; they initially talked about putting FBI and CIA under DHS, but didn't. I forgot. Anyway, there are federal criminal investigators who work for DHS who investigate crimes not related to terrorism, because crime is a much larger threat to "the homeland" than terrorism.
 
2014-01-21 10:40:36 PM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Since Obama is the president, this guy was technically arrested directly by Obama.


If Obama was going to pirate movies, that's exactly how he'd do it.
 
2014-01-21 10:40:46 PM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: 4tehsnowflakes: But are you saying all copyright is stupid, or just copyright-based power grabs like CISPA?

Having law officers enforce copyright is farking ridiculous. If I'm violating your copyright, take me to court and sue me for damages because ultimately it's a dispute between two parties - not a person and the state. Let the cops do more important work, like busting people for a gram of weed or whatever.


Why should the government not be involved in investigating and prosecuting economic crimes.  You are basically saying, why should the government investigate thefts since there is already the tort of conversion.
 
2014-01-21 10:41:02 PM  
It's all worthwhile because FREEDOM
 
2014-01-21 10:41:25 PM  

sprgrss: mbillips: cman: Mangoose: No. fark you. This doesn't go this way. Glassbag should have been sensible enough to understand that the was pointing a recording device at the farking movie screen. HOW THE fark ELSE WAS THIS GOING TO END? If he brought a camcorder or pointed his cell phone at the screen, this goes the same way.

farking douche.

I think people are more upset at who the interrogators were.

Homeland Security should just be that, Homeland Security. What does movie piracy have to do with terrorism?

The FBI is part of the Department of Homeland Security (as is the Coast Guard). There are no actual "Homeland Security" counterterrorism forces tracking down all the fictional and/or broke-ass wannabe Al Qaeda cells. What there is is crime, like movie piracy, which the FBI investigates under federal law.

FBI is still under DOJ and Coast Guard is under DoD.


Coast Guard is not under DoD. They were never under DoD except in wartime; they were under Treasury before DHS was created. Secret Service is under DHS as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Homeland_Se cu rity#Structure
 
2014-01-21 10:43:08 PM  

BitwiseShift: So the MPAA has not one or two federally-payrolled cops looking a patrons making bad copies but ten in one movie theater? I wonder how many shows the exotic LEOs caught, and whether their popcorn was comped?


The AMC theater at Easton is within a much larger mall complex where ten cops (or mall cops, since it's the Daily Mail) isn't an unreasonable number that would show up to the "scene of the crime," because there was nothing else going on. Most nights it's probably complete boredom of telling kids they can't be there unsupervised after ten or something.
 
2014-01-21 10:43:20 PM  

mbillips: sprgrss: mbillips: cman: Mangoose: No. fark you. This doesn't go this way. Glassbag should have been sensible enough to understand that the was pointing a recording device at the farking movie screen. HOW THE fark ELSE WAS THIS GOING TO END? If he brought a camcorder or pointed his cell phone at the screen, this goes the same way.

farking douche.

I think people are more upset at who the interrogators were.

Homeland Security should just be that, Homeland Security. What does movie piracy have to do with terrorism?

The FBI is part of the Department of Homeland Security (as is the Coast Guard). There are no actual "Homeland Security" counterterrorism forces tracking down all the fictional and/or broke-ass wannabe Al Qaeda cells. What there is is crime, like movie piracy, which the FBI investigates under federal law.

FBI is still under DOJ and Coast Guard is under DoD.

Coast Guard is not under DoD. They were never under DoD except in wartime; they were under Treasury before DHS was created. Secret Service is under DHS as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Homeland_Se cu rity#Structure


learn something new everyday.
 
2014-01-21 10:44:08 PM  

mbillips: sprgrss: mbillips: cman: Mangoose: 

Coast Guard is not under DoD. They were never under DoD except in wartime; they were under Treasury before DHS was created. Secret Service is under DHS as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Homeland_Se cu rity#Structure


D'oh. USCG was under Transportation. Secret Service was under Treasury. Both under DHS now.
 
2014-01-21 10:45:22 PM  

sprgrss: untaken_name: sprgrss: Amongst those governmental agencies is Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). ICE is tasked with investigating criminal copyright violations.

Well sure, I mean, it makes so much more sense that Immigration enforces copyright than Homeland Security. Thanks for clearing that up.

I see you ignored that Customs part.


I forgot the guy was traveling internationally inside the movie theater. Sorry.
 
2014-01-21 10:46:56 PM  
They should have burned him at the stake right outside the theater, then left his charred remains as a warning to anyone else who would ever think of wearing those things.
 
2014-01-21 10:46:57 PM  

untaken_name: sprgrss: untaken_name: sprgrss: Amongst those governmental agencies is Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). ICE is tasked with investigating criminal copyright violations.

Well sure, I mean, it makes so much more sense that Immigration enforces copyright than Homeland Security. Thanks for clearing that up.

I see you ignored that Customs part.

I forgot the guy was traveling internationally inside the movie theater. Sorry.


Where do you think the pirated movies mostly get sold? You don't buy $2 Hajji discs of new releases in America, you buy them in Asia and Russia.
 
2014-01-21 10:48:01 PM  

sprgrss: mbillips: cman: Mangoose: No. fark you. This doesn't go this way. Glassbag should have been sensible enough to understand that the was pointing a recording device at the farking movie screen. HOW THE fark ELSE WAS THIS GOING TO END? If he brought a camcorder or pointed his cell phone at the screen, this goes the same way.

farking douche.

I think people are more upset at who the interrogators were.

Homeland Security should just be that, Homeland Security. What does movie piracy have to do with terrorism?

The FBI is part of the Department of Homeland Security (as is the Coast Guard). There are no actual "Homeland Security" counterterrorism forces tracking down all the fictional and/or broke-ass wannabe Al Qaeda cells. What there is is crime, like movie piracy, which the FBI investigates under federal law.

FBI is still under DOJ and Coast Guard is under DoD.


No they're not.

The following agencies and/or departments are under DHS as of 2014: http://www.dhs.gov/who-joined-dhs

US Customs and Border Protection (ICE, Immigration Services)
TSA
FEMA (portions of FBI including Infrastructure Protection and National Domestic Preparedness)
Science and Technology Directorate (Biowarfare, CBRN)
US Coast Guard
US Secret Service
 
2014-01-21 10:48:26 PM  

untaken_name: sprgrss: untaken_name: sprgrss: Amongst those governmental agencies is Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). ICE is tasked with investigating criminal copyright violations.

Well sure, I mean, it makes so much more sense that Immigration enforces copyright than Homeland Security. Thanks for clearing that up.

I see you ignored that Customs part.

I forgot the guy was traveling internationally inside the movie theater. Sorry.

 customs enforcement doesn't stop at the border.  quit being a neck beard.
 
2014-01-21 10:51:05 PM  

a particular individual: Can anyone defending this Gestapo shiat show me a single example of a suspected movie bootlegger receiving similar treatment? If not, fark off.


http://www.macombdaily.com/general-news/20131007/movie-bootleggers-c au ght-at-amc-star-gratiot-in-clinton-township
 
2014-01-21 10:53:06 PM  

mbillips: untaken_name: sprgrss: untaken_name: sprgrss: Amongst those governmental agencies is Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). ICE is tasked with investigating criminal copyright violations.

Well sure, I mean, it makes so much more sense that Immigration enforces copyright than Homeland Security. Thanks for clearing that up.

I see you ignored that Customs part.

I forgot the guy was traveling internationally inside the movie theater. Sorry.

Where do you think the pirated movies mostly get sold? You don't buy $2 Hajji discs of new releases in America, you buy them in Asia and Russia.


Yes, and those are typically not recorded in the countries they're sold in by projectionists recording completely undetectably to the audience, they're recorded by middle-aged married guys in the audience WEARING the recording devices OPENLY. Because that kind of thinking is the true mark of an international crime organization.
 
2014-01-21 10:54:03 PM  

Mangoose: No. fark you. This doesn't go this way. Glassbag should have been sensible enough to understand that the was pointing a recording device at the farking movie screen. HOW THE fark ELSE WAS THIS GOING TO END? If he brought a camcorder or pointed his cell phone at the screen, this goes the same way.

farking douche.


Really? You can't think of any other way this could have ended?

/veteran
 
2014-01-21 10:54:06 PM  

sprgrss: customs enforcement doesn't stop at the border. quit being a neck beard.


And you keep piling nonsense on nonsense like it explains the nonsense.
 
2014-01-21 10:54:16 PM  
As long as I can still wear them in the strip club, I'm cool.
 
2014-01-21 10:55:50 PM  

cman: Mangoose: No. fark you. This doesn't go this way. Glassbag should have been sensible enough to understand that the was pointing a recording device at the farking movie screen. HOW THE fark ELSE WAS THIS GOING TO END? If he brought a camcorder or pointed his cell phone at the screen, this goes the same way.

farking douche.

I think people are more upset at who the interrogators were.

Homeland Security should just be that, Homeland Security. What does movie piracy have to do with terrorism?


Idiot!

Don't you remember that the Saudis crashed 2 copies of The Expendables into the WTC?

How quickly they forget.
 
2014-01-21 10:56:03 PM  

untaken_name: sprgrss: customs enforcement doesn't stop at the border. quit being a neck beard.

And you keep piling nonsense on nonsense like it explains the nonsense.


I'm sorry that you don't understand how the world works.

i can't wait for you to find out that ICE also enforces counterfeit goods laws.
 
2014-01-21 10:57:46 PM  

4tehsnowflakes: Marcus Aurelius:   Hollywood paid good money for these stupid laws, god dammit, and they're going to see them enforced.

Sure, the business model of charging to see just-released content in gigantic rooms is doomed.  But are you saying all copyright is stupid, or just copyright-based power grabs like CISPA?

Sending all those g-men to investigate based on so little evidence does looks stupid in hindsight.  When it is real the lens is probably a lot harder to spot than Glass.


Doomed?

http://www.the-numbers.com/market/

Revenues are huge and ticket sales are relatively constant. Its like the same people are still seeing movies but are paying double now.

I love seeing movies at the theaters. I've seen Her, Anchorman 2, The Wolf of Wall Street, and the Hobbit since about Christmas time. I think A Winter's Tale is next!

Of coure my example is purely anecdotal but I've not seen any movies alone!
 
2014-01-21 10:58:47 PM  

untaken_name: Yes, and those are typically not recorded in the countries they're sold in by projectionists recording completely undetectably to the audience, they're recorded by middle-aged married guys in the audience WEARING the recording devices OPENLY. Because that kind of thinking is the true mark of an international crime organization.


From how shiatty theater bootlegs are, they'd at least be on a tripod if they were recorded from the projectionist's booth.
 
2014-01-21 10:59:14 PM  

untaken_name: mbillips: untaken_name: sprgrss: untaken_name: sprgrss: Amongst those governmental agencies is Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). ICE is tasked with investigating criminal copyright violations.

Well sure, I mean, it makes so much more sense that Immigration enforces copyright than Homeland Security. Thanks for clearing that up.

I see you ignored that Customs part.

I forgot the guy was traveling internationally inside the movie theater. Sorry.

Where do you think the pirated movies mostly get sold? You don't buy $2 Hajji discs of new releases in America, you buy them in Asia and Russia.

Yes, and those are typically not recorded in the countries they're sold in by projectionists recording completely undetectably to the audience, they're recorded by middle-aged married guys in the audience WEARING the recording devices OPENLY. Because that kind of thinking is the true mark of an international crime organization.


Well, when I was buying bootleg movies in Iraq 8 years ago, at least one of them was recorded by some guy with a camcorder in a paper bag. It's probably different now that they're mostly using digital "prints" instead of film. Anyway, a guy wearing Google Glass was harassed and bullied, so win-win.
 
2014-01-21 11:00:48 PM  

rkiller1: styckx: Can someone explain how DHS involved itself in potential a copyright issue at best?

Security theater.


You Sir, win an internet.
 
2014-01-21 11:01:46 PM  
Why wouldn't I just wait half a year and just watch the same production at half the price on my own home theatre without leaving my house and not have to hear others talk on their cell phone or munch on popcorn or light up the space around me texting while I can pause the movie to take a piss or pour myself another drink?
 
2014-01-21 11:02:58 PM  
They should have left him alone. Being a douche wearing Google Glass is punishment enough.
 
2014-01-21 11:03:18 PM  
What a great way to spend your tax dollars. These guys really don't have anything better to do?
 
2014-01-21 11:03:41 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: cman: Mangoose: No. fark you. This doesn't go this way. Glassbag should have been sensible enough to understand that the was pointing a recording device at the farking movie screen. HOW THE fark ELSE WAS THIS GOING TO END? If he brought a camcorder or pointed his cell phone at the screen, this goes the same way.

farking douche.

I think people are more upset at who the interrogators were.

Homeland Security should just be that, Homeland Security. What does movie piracy have to do with terrorism?

Idiot!

Don't you remember that the Saudis crashed 2 copies of The Expendables into the WTC?

How quickly they forget.


To be serious for a moment, DHS was created in a spasm of panic when we thought we actually had an ongoing terrorism problem in the U.S. Now that it's been completely proven that we DON'T, all those law-enforcement agencies lumped together under DHS still have to do their jobs, which is enforcing criminal law that has nothing to do with terrorism. Better they irritate one neckbeard who's being a douche than that they waste time trying to talk guys in Dearborn with 67 IQs into buying Stinger missiles.
 
2014-01-21 11:05:11 PM  

drgloryboy: Why wouldn't I just wait half a year and just watch the same production at half the price on my own home theatre without leaving my house and not have to hear others talk on their cell phone or munch on popcorn or light up the space around me texting while I can pause the movie to take a piss or pour myself another drink?


Because you don't have a 60-foot-tall screen and 3,000-watt speakers in your house? Or maybe you do, in which case can I come over and watch a movie? But NO TALKING unless you pause it first.
 
2014-01-21 11:05:18 PM  

jaylectricity: OK, he's a jackass for wearing them to the movie, but it looks like they're fitted right to his prescription glasses.

If they had merely taken a look at  the contents of the drive (although he didn't have to let them) in the first 10 minutes everybody would have been able to go on their way.


Google is competition.
 
2014-01-21 11:05:45 PM  

fusillade762: the man said some 'federal service' agents snatched the glasses from his face

Bullshiat. Like the Feds are patrolling movie theaters. "Homeland Security" my ass.


Big gorilla at the L.A. Zoo
Snatched the glasses right off my face
Took the keys to my BMW
Left me here to take his place
I wish the ape a lot of success
I'm sorry my apartment's a mess
Most of all I'm sorry if I made you blue
I'm betting the gorilla will, too
 
2014-01-21 11:09:35 PM  
imgs.xkcd.com
 
2014-01-21 11:10:05 PM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: untaken_name: Yes, and those are typically not recorded in the countries they're sold in by projectionists recording completely undetectably to the audience, they're recorded by middle-aged married guys in the audience WEARING the recording devices OPENLY. Because that kind of thinking is the true mark of an international crime organization.

From how shiatty theater bootlegs are, they'd at least be on a tripod if they were recorded from the projectionist's booth.


No, ever since the batman terrorist shot up the theater we have federal theater marshalls and special security doors on the cockpit projection booth.
 
2014-01-21 11:10:38 PM  
The movie industry just destroyed net neutrality, essentially destroying the internet, the best thing happened to humanity in last 30 years. I would rather see the movie and recording industry completely die off than the death of Internet.Yet the opposite is happening.
 
2014-01-21 11:11:42 PM  
Hey, maybe he was only gathering metadata! That's ok, right?
 
2014-01-21 11:12:40 PM  

mbillips: Oh, can I also add how happy I am that a Glasshole got detained and harassed, if not for violating the privacy of everyone that he points those things at? Because that should happen more.

/Somebody wearing those looks at me in the men's room, I'm swearing out a warrant.


o.onionstatic.com
 
2014-01-21 11:12:56 PM  

BitwiseShift: So the MPAA has not one or two federally-payrolled cops looking a patrons making bad copies but ten in one movie theater? I wonder how many shows the exotic LEOs caught, and whether their popcorn was comped?

This tale ought to be the very first movie made for Google Glass. Complete with Officer Obie and his pack of movie goers out for an evening having solved the Target data breach case and restored the 120M affected "citizens."


I didn't even read this article but the one I read earlier listed the responding agents as FBI and basically mall cops with a smattering of MPAA rep. I responded to your comment as being the only one relevant to that point. After the feds taco'd mah sports streams awhile back, I thought it was odd the FBI would follow such trivia. Look how far we've come in such a short time. Granted, Google glass may be misused but the media Gestapo needs to tone back to six or seven.
 
2014-01-21 11:14:07 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: Really? You can't think of any other way this could have ended?
/veteran


What does being a veteran have to do with it? Are veterans allowed to shoot assholes in theaters, like retired cops?
 
2014-01-21 11:15:24 PM  
There's two kinds of Google glass users: Google glass users, and Glassholes.
 
2014-01-21 11:15:59 PM  

mayIFark: The movie industry just destroyed net neutrality, essentially destroying the internet, the best thing happened to humanity in last 30 years. I would rather see the movie and recording industry completely die off than the death of Internet.Yet the opposite is happening.


when did the movie industry become internet service providers?
 
2014-01-21 11:16:20 PM  

mbillips: Oh, can I also add how happy I am that a Glasshole got detained and harassed, if not for violating the privacy of everyone that he points those things at? Because that should happen more.

/Somebody wearing those looks at me in the men's room, I'm swearing out a warrant.


You should read this book: Halting State

There are a couple of scenes that describe the characters being confused about reality versus the reality on their glasses (one to the point of getting stabbed because he thinks the knife is virtual). Considering the issues people have with just trying to text and walk at the same time? I'll pass.
 
2014-01-21 11:16:34 PM  

CygnusDarius: There's two kinds of Google glass users: Google glass users, and Glassholes.


nah, there is only one kind--Glassholes.
 
2014-01-21 11:17:28 PM  

cryinoutloud: StoPPeRmobile: Really? You can't think of any other way this could have ended?
/veteran

What does being a veteran have to do with it? Are veterans allowed to shoot assholes in theaters, like retired cops?


Hey was there a ruling on that case?
 
2014-01-21 11:18:18 PM  
From bearded clameror's link -- "It was quite embarrassing and outside of the theater there were about 5-10 cops and mall cops. Since I didn't catch his name in the dark of the theater, I asked to see his badge again and I asked what was the problem and I asked for my Glass back. The response was 'you see all these cops you know we are legit, we are with the 'federal service' and you have been caught illegally taping the movie.'"

And then the federal service officer asked him to drop his pants and bend over so that he might be properly serviced by the federal agents.
 
2014-01-21 11:19:29 PM  

mayIFark: The movie industry just destroyed net neutrality, essentially destroying the internet, the best thing happened to humanity in last 30 years. I would rather see the movie and recording industry completely die off than the death of Internet.Yet the opposite is happening.


Only if you let it...
 
2014-01-21 11:19:33 PM  
With the way they hand out screeners MONTHS in advance of the release of these movies it's a wonder anyone even bothers with cams anymore.
 
2014-01-21 11:20:11 PM  

sprgrss: mayIFark: The movie industry just destroyed net neutrality, essentially destroying the internet, the best thing happened to humanity in last 30 years. I would rather see the movie and recording industry completely die off than the death of Internet.Yet the opposite is happening.

when did the movie industry become internet service providers?


Oh, it's just the usual butthurt from the generation that grew up stealing all their entertaintment through file sharing, and now are afraid they'll have to pay for the bandwidth they use to steal that content.

/I'm in favor of net neutrality, but the Constitution doesn't guarantee a right to unlimited free movies, TV and music. You're stealing it.
 
2014-01-21 11:20:44 PM  
Ok, I know its cool to make fun of Glass users, but in all honesty if i had paid $2100 for glass, i would probably have it on most of the time to the point where I've just gotten used to having it there. It seems like an interesting alpha technology which does a whole heck of a lot more than just take pictures and videos. So its not like he "went into the movie with a video camera" he went in with a device not unlike your cell phone that also happens to have recording capability.

Frankly if it were me I would have just asked if i was being detained and if not if I was free to go. I wouldn't have offered anything beyond that and frankly he shouldn't have had to. Clearly the officers had no clue what they were dealing with as this likely would be one of the worst ways to pirate a movie. The sound would be awful and I would venture a guess that with a lens that small the quality of recording a screen would suck donkey balls.

\Not interested in Glass outside it being an alpha technology as an indicator where things are heading
\\Not an internet tough guy, working for a law firm makes you a bit more comfortable asserting your rights
 
2014-01-21 11:20:52 PM  

Voiceofreason01: Mangoose: No. fark you. This doesn't go this way. Glassbag should have been sensible enough to understand that the was pointing a recording device at the farking movie screen. HOW THE fark ELSE WAS THIS GOING TO END? If he brought a camcorder or pointed his cell phone at the screen, this goes the same way.

farking douche.

uh...pretty much. Recording the movie is a crime. He was doing something that, to any reasonable person, looked like he was recording the movie.

The authorities detained him long enough to determine that he was not committing a crime. Then a representative from the theater gave him some free passes. The only really unreasonable thing that happened here is that some jackass wore Google Glass into a movie theater.

I agree with you except for this part. They detained him much longer than it took to determine that. He is an idiot but they were idiotic as well.
 
2014-01-21 11:25:47 PM  

phlegmmo: cman: What does movie piracy have to do with terrorism?

Link


"Ogre" from Revenge of the Nerds was in that clip. Well done!
 
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