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2014-01-21 06:30:12 PM  
Don't pay your premium. Voila!
 
2014-01-21 06:31:21 PM  

skinnycatullus: Don't pay your premium. Voila!


The insurance company will just have the Feds pay the bill.
 
2014-01-21 06:39:07 PM  

dj_bigbird: skinnycatullus: Don't pay your premium. Voila!

The insurance company will just have the Feds pay the bill.


OK
 
2014-01-21 06:55:53 PM  
How does one enroll in the Affordable Care Act?

I thought you enrolled with an insurance company, and if you don't pay, they drop you, then you pay the tax penalty; unless you're really poor, then you're exempt from having to purchase it but probably qualify for Medicare anyways.
 
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2014-01-21 06:57:16 PM  
Don't pay your premium. Voila!

The plan I have now will temporarily suspend coverage for nonpayment but still bill you. Once you pay they reinstate coverage retroactively. They do have an excuse for billing you forever. You are fined taxed for periods when you aren't covered. Paying for a past month when you know you have no claims could end up cutting your taxes.

I don't know what happens if I just blow them off and don't pay for a year or two. Do they keep billing me, sue to collect, and trash my credit? Do they give up after a few months and retroactively cancel? The subject of this story probably doesn't know either.
 
2014-01-21 07:03:46 PM  

skinnycatullus: Don't pay your premium. Voila!


If you don't officially cancel the old coverage you can't sign up for another plan.  It can take months before an insurance company drops you for non-payment.
 
2014-01-21 07:15:31 PM  
For any given Daily Mail article the burden of proof is on the author to demonstrate

1) that he or she isn't lying out of his ass
2) that he or she should not be hunted for sport from helicopters.
 
2014-01-21 07:47:34 PM  
If this is true, I can see many people having a legitimate complaint with this.  My current plan was cancelled because per my insurance company it was non-compliant. OK fine, I had to find new coverage, I put off doing anything about because I was busy, well low and behold in late December I received a heck of a deal in the mail from an old insurer, I had shopped through the marketplace and not found any deal this good.  Had I signed up I would have had to cancel to take this offer, if it took more than one or 2 phone calls to cancel I would have been pissed.
 
2014-01-21 07:50:23 PM  
Thanks, Obama
 
2014-01-21 07:50:26 PM  
This is the final piece of the puzzle.  Soon, Obamacare will crumble.  We've got you now, Obama.  Checkmate, Obama.  Yahtzee.  We sunk your Battleship.
 
2014-01-21 07:51:55 PM  
Daily Mail.
dosedosedose.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-01-21 07:52:41 PM  
Quick! Everyone come armed!
This time.
 
2014-01-21 07:53:26 PM  
It's funny when The Daily Mail comments are flooded with US Free Republic fruitcakes, and suddenly the regular UK derp-a-herps there find themselves the sensible logical side of the argument, red arrowing the Americans.
 
2014-01-21 07:53:33 PM  

meat0918: How does one enroll in the Affordable Care Act?

I thought you enrolled with an insurance company, and if you don't pay, they drop you, then you pay the tax penalty; unless you're really poor, then you're exempt from having to purchase it but probably qualify for Medicare anyways.


Isn't it ironic that they're trying to paint ACA as single payer and go ZOMG COMMUNIZMZ...when single-payer would probably be preferred?
 
2014-01-21 07:53:47 PM  
One more LIE about the system, this woman is a shill, actually a man and all the info she/he gave was fictitious.
 
2014-01-21 07:54:41 PM  
What a tough act might look like.

www.jeffreysomers.com
 
2014-01-21 07:56:42 PM  

skinnycatullus: Don't pay your premium. Voila!


I'm disappointed that the Boobies wasn't "FAKE". Since this has all the hallmarks of a classic FAKE thread from the Daily Fail.
 
2014-01-21 08:00:30 PM  

Voiceofreason01: skinnycatullus: Don't pay your premium. Voila!

I'm disappointed that the Boobies wasn't "FAKE". Since this has all the hallmarks of a classic FAKE thread from the Daily Fail.


Since all it takes to have all the needed Daily Fail hallmarks for fake is to actually be on the Daily Fail, writing "FAKE" isn't all that needed.
 
2014-01-21 08:03:42 PM  
Lady looks like a GOP confederate.
 
2014-01-21 08:10:02 PM  
Finally, Ms Hill drove to her insurance company's head quarter in Kansas City, 100 miles from her home, and they were able to help her cancel her 'Obamacare' plan.

So basically the phone operators at her insurance company didn't know squat and kept passing her back and forth.
 
2014-01-21 08:10:59 PM  
As a disabled veteran I'm exempt from the ACA, I get free health care for life, and all I had to do was be crippled while in service to the United States.

/Thanks taxpayers!
//And you're welcome
 
2014-01-21 08:15:39 PM  

Bungles: It's funny when The Daily Mail comments are flooded with US Free Republic fruitcakes, and suddenly the regular UK derp-a-herps there find themselves the sensible logical side of the argument, red arrowing the Americans.


Heh, clicked on the article after you mentioned that.  Kinda sad, actually.  And funny.

silverjets: Finally, Ms Hill drove to her insurance company's head quarter in Kansas City, 100 miles from her home, and they were able to help her cancel her 'Obamacare' plan.

So basically the phone operators at her insurance company didn't know squat and kept passing her back and forth.


That, or it could be one of the those "annoy the customer so much they give up on canceling" scam/strategies.
 
2014-01-21 08:20:50 PM  

Voiceofreason01: I'm disappointed that the Boobies wasn't "FAKE".


i.imgur.com
 
2014-01-21 08:24:01 PM  

Lsherm: skinnycatullus: Don't pay your premium. Voila!

If you don't officially cancel the old coverage you can't sign up for another plan.  It can take months before an insurance company drops you for non-payment.


Well, that doesn't sound like the efficiency I'm promised by capitalism.
 
2014-01-21 08:27:05 PM  

IlGreven: meat0918: How does one enroll in the Affordable Care Act?

I thought you enrolled with an insurance company, and if you don't pay, they drop you, then you pay the tax penalty; unless you're really poor, then you're exempt from having to purchase it but probably qualify for Medicare anyways.

Isn't it ironic that they're trying to paint ACA as single payer and go ZOMG COMMUNIZMZ...when single-payer would probably be preferred?


Articles like this are an excellent endorsement for a single payer system. If people aren't bright enough to sign up for or cancel their health insurance, let's remove that obstacle.
 
2014-01-21 08:27:27 PM  
So you signed up for a service with a private company and you want to cancel it.  Instead of going to the private company and working it out with them, you complain about the website that just showed you what plan you could by and took your information to expedite the process? Ok...yep, totally Obama's fault.
 
2014-01-21 08:30:30 PM  

Voiceofreason01: skinnycatullus: Don't pay your premium. Voila!

I'm disappointed that the Boobies wasn't "FAKE". Since this has all the hallmarks of a classic FAKE thread from the Daily Fail.


That's The Sun that has the fake boobies.

/Page 3, I believe
 
2014-01-21 08:36:52 PM  

djkutch: Lsherm: skinnycatullus: Don't pay your premium. Voila!

If you don't officially cancel the old coverage you can't sign up for another plan.  It can take months before an insurance company drops you for non-payment.

Well, that doesn't sound like the efficiency I'm promised by capitalism.


Funny how when capitalists team up with government to force people to buy their products, everything goes to shiat, huh?
 
2014-01-21 08:37:55 PM  

dj_bigbird: skinnycatullus: Don't pay your premium. Voila!

The insurance company will just have the Feds pay the bill.


'Free' healthcare.  What's the problem?

/Free like the NHS.
//Paid for by taxes.
 
2014-01-21 08:39:29 PM  

shanrick: Voiceofreason01: I'm disappointed that the Boobies wasn't "FAKE".

[i.imgur.com image 552x829]


She looks like a realdoll, jesus
 
2014-01-21 08:40:48 PM  
6 whole weeks, what a nightmare for you.
/Condescending-Wonka.jpg

//Try dealing with regular insurance and let us know how successful you are.
 
2014-01-21 08:43:26 PM  

Terlis: So you signed up for a service with a private company and you want to cancel it.  Instead of going to the private company and working it out with them, you complain about the website that just showed you what plan you could by and took your information to expedite the process? Ok...yep, totally Obama's fault.


FTFA:
'I thought it would be fairly simple, I called my insurance provider and they informed me they couldn't cancel my federal exchange policy and that I would have to  do that through the exchange,'

Ms Hill was told by an ObamaCare operator that she needed to call her insurance company, who passed her back to the Federal Exchange.

Ms Hill claims the terminate button on Obamacare's website did not work, and that she spent 'several hours a day' on hold with the Health Insurance Marketplace.


It's Obama's law, he fought for it, got it, signed it, and has touted it ever since. You can try to blame-shift and deny the obvious, but nobody's buying it.
 
2014-01-21 08:44:14 PM  

jjorsett: Funny how when capitalists team up with government to force people to buy their products, everything goes to shiat, huh?


I know!  It's absolutely crazy. I remember when health insurance companies were one of the three most respected businesses in the United States, with approval ratings a high, or higher than, used car salesmen and divorce lawyers.

But now Obama ruined everything forever.  Thanks Obama :(
 
2014-01-21 08:45:19 PM  

jjorsett: It's Obama's law, he fought for it, got it, signed it, and has touted it ever since. You can try to blame-shift and deny the obvious, but nobody's buying it.


Why won't Obama answer the phone when she calls?   Why, Obama, why?
 
2014-01-21 08:50:00 PM  

Begoggle: 6 whole weeks, what a nightmare for you.
/Condescending-Wonka.jpg

//Try dealing with regular insurance and let us know how successful you are.


Require voters to go get a photo ID, that's the equivalent of the Bataan Death March. Make it a six-week ordeal culminating in a 100-mile drive to cancel a simple insurance policy, and no biggie. The left really defines situational ethics.
 
2014-01-21 08:50:47 PM  

shanrick: Voiceofreason01: I'm disappointed that the Boobies wasn't "FAKE".

[i.imgur.com image 552x829]


Ah, good direction.
ladygeekgirl.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-01-21 08:50:57 PM  

jjorsett: djkutch: Lsherm: skinnycatullus: Don't pay your premium. Voila!

If you don't officially cancel the old coverage you can't sign up for another plan.  It can take months before an insurance company drops you for non-payment.

Well, that doesn't sound like the efficiency I'm promised by capitalism.

Funny how when capitalists team up with government to force people to buy their products, everything goes to shiat, huh?


I could be wrong, but I think the delay with dropping coverage is a result of regulation to prevent insurance companies from screwing people who make a late payment.
 
2014-01-21 08:52:00 PM  

stuhayes2010: Lady looks like a GOP confederate.

I live with my mom. Get some new material numbnuts .
 
2014-01-21 08:54:10 PM  
You know I don't see any outrage from Fox (The Mail is owned by Fox and they had this same story running on FoxNews earlier) that with an employer plan they generally won't let you make changes (e.g. drop your coverage) unless there's a "qualifying event". So if I decide I don't want to pay the premium for my family anymore I have to wait until "open enrollment" until I can.

/of course fake story is fake anyway.
 
2014-01-21 08:58:25 PM  
This just in: it's hard to cancel a subscription for something that you sign up for on the Internet.
 
2014-01-21 08:59:35 PM  

cfreak: You know I don't see any outrage from Fox (The Mail is owned by Fox and they had this same story running on FoxNews earlier) that with an employer plan they generally won't let you make changes (e.g. drop your coverage) unless there's a "qualifying event". So if I decide I don't want to pay the premium for my family anymore I have to wait until "open enrollment" until I can.


Yes, but that's totally different because free enterprise, and capitalism, and reasons.

The affordable care act is the worse thing ever, with the exception of the IRS scandal, which is worse, and Benghazi, which is much worse.

And also possibly that one thing that Hillary Clinton did that one time with some folders or Vince Foster, which might be even worse depending on the polls in two years and six months.
 
2014-01-21 09:04:07 PM  

The Larch: cfreak: You know I don't see any outrage from Fox (The Mail is owned by Fox and they had this same story running on FoxNews earlier) that with an employer plan they generally won't let you make changes (e.g. drop your coverage) unless there's a "qualifying event". So if I decide I don't want to pay the premium for my family anymore I have to wait until "open enrollment" until I can.

Yes, but that's totally different because free enterprise, and capitalism, and reasons.

The affordable care act is the worse thing ever, with the exception of the IRS scandal, which is worse, and Benghazi, which is much worse.

And also possibly that one thing that Hillary Clinton did that one time with some folders or Vince Foster, which might be even worse depending on the polls in two years and six months.


So true. The ACA is a conservative / corporate wet dream but a damn democrat got it passed and they can't stand it.
 
2014-01-21 09:08:21 PM  
Surely contacting the private company that sold you the insurance is out of the question.

Probably never happened anyway. Just more tabloid garbage for blogs and chain emails to keep the racist hate flowing.
 
2014-01-21 09:12:46 PM  

Lsherm: jjorsett: djkutch: Lsherm: skinnycatullus: Don't pay your premium. Voila!

If you don't officially cancel the old coverage you can't sign up for another plan.  It can take months before an insurance company drops you for non-payment.

Well, that doesn't sound like the efficiency I'm promised by capitalism.

Funny how when capitalists team up with government to force people to buy their products, everything goes to shiat, huh?

I could be wrong, but I think the delay with dropping coverage is a result of regulation to prevent insurance companies from screwing people who make a late payment.


And, your problem is?
 
2014-01-21 09:20:33 PM  
Obama's America On-Line.

/Had some good times on AOL back in the day.
 
2014-01-21 09:29:40 PM  

Lsherm: jjorsett: djkutch: Lsherm: skinnycatullus: Don't pay your premium. Voila!

If you don't officially cancel the old coverage you can't sign up for another plan.  It can take months before an insurance company drops you for non-payment.

Well, that doesn't sound like the efficiency I'm promised by capitalism.

Funny how when capitalists team up with government to force people to buy their products, everything goes to shiat, huh?

I could be wrong, but I think the delay with dropping coverage is a result of regulation to prevent insurance companies from screwing people who make a late payment.


That may be true, but that doesn't mean you can't enroll in another plan. This kind of thing happens ALL THE TIME. People get laid off, go on COBRA under their old employer plan and pay premiums directly. They get a new job and sign up for benefits with the new company. No problem. If the subscriber *does* happen to get some sort of service with their old insurance card after they've begun coverage under the new plan (but before the old plan officially cancelled them due to non-payment), guess what happens? The old company goes after the individual to be reimbursed and the individual can submit a claim against their new insurance. Is it a hassle? Perhaps, but as the individual making the decision about when you begin a new plan, you should know which insurance to tell your healthcare provider to bill.
 
2014-01-21 09:35:39 PM  

djkutch: Lsherm: jjorsett: djkutch: Lsherm: skinnycatullus: Don't pay your premium. Voila!

If you don't officially cancel the old coverage you can't sign up for another plan.  It can take months before an insurance company drops you for non-payment.

Well, that doesn't sound like the efficiency I'm promised by capitalism.

Funny how when capitalists team up with government to force people to buy their products, everything goes to shiat, huh?

I could be wrong, but I think the delay with dropping coverage is a result of regulation to prevent insurance companies from screwing people who make a late payment.

And, your problem is?


I don't have a problem with it, I was just pointing out it wasn't unfettered capitalism that was behind the problem.
 
2014-01-21 09:38:23 PM  

jjorsett: Terlis: So you signed up for a service with a private company and you want to cancel it.  Instead of going to the private company and working it out with them, you complain about the website that just showed you what plan you could by and took your information to expedite the process? Ok...yep, totally Obama's fault.

FTFA:
'I thought it would be fairly simple, I called my insurance provider and they informed me they couldn't cancel my federal exchange policy and that I would have to  do that through the exchange,'

Ms Hill was told by an ObamaCare operator that she needed to call her insurance company, who passed her back to the Federal Exchange.

Ms Hill claims the terminate button on Obamacare's website did not work, and that she spent 'several hours a day' on hold with the Health Insurance Marketplace.

It's Obama's law, he fought for it, got it, signed it, and has touted it ever since. You can try to blame-shift and deny the obvious, but nobody's buying it.


If she drove 100 miles to the INSURANCE PROVIDER and was able to get it cancelled, the problem was with the farking people working at the insurance provider who talked to her on the phone. If the provider could not cancel the plan, it wouldn't matter where she was. This story is farking bullshiat.
 
2014-01-21 09:38:32 PM  
4.bp.blogspot.com

ecx.images-amazon.com

i135.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-21 09:39:17 PM  

meat0918: How does one enroll in the Affordable Care Act?

I thought you enrolled with an insurance company, and if you don't pay, they drop you, then you pay the tax penalty; unless you're really poor, then you're exempt from having to purchase it but probably qualify for Medicare anyways.


Good luck trying to do anything with it or not with it.


crab66: Surely contacting the private company that sold you the insurance is out of the question.

Probably never happened anyway. Just more tabloid garbage for blogs and chain emails to keep the racist hate flowing.


Am curious how many people like you have actually tried dealing with this particular system in any capacity. The entire thing is one big responsibility shrug fest. Live help can't help you with anything other than good conversation, phone help directs you to mail in things and though you have a deliver receipt they tell you so sorry too bad, call this number. You call that other number and you get another clueless dipshiat.

So it runs exactly like all government agencies. Overpaid assholes that do the least amount of work to keep from getting let go or just bored enough to do what they can to fark with you.

Lets keep hearing how awesome this new system is though.
 
2014-01-21 09:42:46 PM  

Lsherm: djkutch: Lsherm: jjorsett: djkutch: Lsherm: skinnycatullus: Don't pay your premium. Voila!

If you don't officially cancel the old coverage you can't sign up for another plan.  It can take months before an insurance company drops you for non-payment.

Well, that doesn't sound like the efficiency I'm promised by capitalism.

Funny how when capitalists team up with government to force people to buy their products, everything goes to shiat, huh?

I could be wrong, but I think the delay with dropping coverage is a result of regulation to prevent insurance companies from screwing people who make a late payment.

And, your problem is?

I don't have a problem with it, I was just pointing out it wasn't unfettered capitalism that was behind the problem.


Thank you for sharing, RN. You are now needed in the Gynecological thread.
 
2014-01-21 09:48:16 PM  

divx88: meat0918: How does one enroll in the Affordable Care Act?

I thought you enrolled with an insurance company, and if you don't pay, they drop you, then you pay the tax penalty; unless you're really poor, then you're exempt from having to purchase it but probably qualify for Medicare anyways.

Good luck trying to do anything with it or not with it.


crab66: Surely contacting the private company that sold you the insurance is out of the question.

Probably never happened anyway. Just more tabloid garbage for blogs and chain emails to keep the racist hate flowing.

Am curious how many people like you have actually tried dealing with this particular system in any capacity. The entire thing is one big responsibility shrug fest. Live help can't help you with anything other than good conversation, phone help directs you to mail in things and though you have a deliver receipt they tell you so sorry too bad, call this number. You call that other number and you get another clueless dipshiat.

So it runs exactly like all government agencies. Overpaid assholes that do the least amount of work to keep from getting let go or just bored enough to do what they can to fark with you.

Lets keep hearing how awesome this new system is though.


You mean having healthcare coverage through a private insurance company?  I'm pretty sure everyone who's ever had private insurance has dealt with this particular system.
 
2014-01-21 09:50:29 PM  

Dadoody: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 316x236]

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Looks like a certain poster of stupid cartoons either has a new alt or is somebody's role model.

I'm not sure which is worse
 
2014-01-21 09:53:11 PM  

theknuckler_33: divx88: meat0918: How does one enroll in the Affordable Care Act?

I thought you enrolled with an insurance company, and if you don't pay, they drop you, then you pay the tax penalty; unless you're really poor, then you're exempt from having to purchase it but probably qualify for Medicare anyways.

Good luck trying to do anything with it or not with it.


crab66: Surely contacting the private company that sold you the insurance is out of the question.

Probably never happened anyway. Just more tabloid garbage for blogs and chain emails to keep the racist hate flowing.

Am curious how many people like you have actually tried dealing with this particular system in any capacity. The entire thing is one big responsibility shrug fest. Live help can't help you with anything other than good conversation, phone help directs you to mail in things and though you have a deliver receipt they tell you so sorry too bad, call this number. You call that other number and you get another clueless dipshiat.

So it runs exactly like all government agencies. Overpaid assholes that do the least amount of work to keep from getting let go or just bored enough to do what they can to fark with you.

Lets keep hearing how awesome this new system is though.

You mean having healthcare coverage through a private insurance company?  I'm pretty sure everyone who's ever had private insurance has dealt with this particular system.


No, it being affordable and paid for/subsidized when you fall within that bracket. Acquiring the actual insurance is easy.
 
2014-01-21 10:01:44 PM  
The Daily Fail is right, we should just a single payer system, like the British.
 
2014-01-21 10:02:10 PM  

divx88: meat0918: How does one enroll in the Affordable Care Act?

I thought you enrolled with an insurance company, and if you don't pay, they drop you, then you pay the tax penalty; unless you're really poor, then you're exempt from having to purchase it but probably qualify for Medicare anyways.

Good luck trying to do anything with it or not with it.


crab66: Surely contacting the private company that sold you the insurance is out of the question.

Probably never happened anyway. Just more tabloid garbage for blogs and chain emails to keep the racist hate flowing.

Am curious how many people like you have actually tried dealing with this particular system in any capacity. The entire thing is one big responsibility shrug fest. Live help can't help you with anything other than good conversation, phone help directs you to mail in things and though you have a deliver receipt they tell you so sorry too bad, call this number. You call that other number and you get another clueless dipshiat.

So it runs exactly like all government agencies. Overpaid assholes that do the least amount of work to keep from getting let go or just bored enough to do what they can to fark with you.

Lets keep hearing how awesome this new system is though.


On the old system, I would apply and would nearly immediately receive rejection notices saying that I wasn't pregnant enough to be covered by even the most basic health plans.

Through this new system, yes I did end up having to mail something in and make somebody else do the work, but I wasn't rejected. I even got my card yesterday.

So yes, single payer would be best, but this new system is leaps and bounds better than the old one. You'd have to have your head buried pretty deep underground to not realize that.
 
2014-01-21 10:03:39 PM  

divx88: Acquiring the actual insurance is easy.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Good one!
 
2014-01-21 10:30:04 PM  

YodaBlues: The Daily Fail is right, we should just a single payer system, like the British.


This is why I keep wishing that Canada would just absorb Michigan. It's annoying to know that if were born one hundred miles to the east, I'd have had health care all my life, not to mention easy access to poutine and bagged milk... And all within the exact same climate zone.

/In Michigan we always had French fries and gravy.
//That's basically poutine without the cheese curds.
 
2014-01-21 10:31:34 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: divx88: meat0918: How does one enroll in the Affordable Care Act?

I thought you enrolled with an insurance company, and if you don't pay, they drop you, then you pay the tax penalty; unless you're really poor, then you're exempt from having to purchase it but probably qualify for Medicare anyways.

Good luck trying to do anything with it or not with it.


crab66: Surely contacting the private company that sold you the insurance is out of the question.

Probably never happened anyway. Just more tabloid garbage for blogs and chain emails to keep the racist hate flowing.

Am curious how many people like you have actually tried dealing with this particular system in any capacity. The entire thing is one big responsibility shrug fest. Live help can't help you with anything other than good conversation, phone help directs you to mail in things and though you have a deliver receipt they tell you so sorry too bad, call this number. You call that other number and you get another clueless dipshiat.

So it runs exactly like all government agencies. Overpaid assholes that do the least amount of work to keep from getting let go or just bored enough to do what they can to fark with you.

Lets keep hearing how awesome this new system is though.

On the old system, I would apply and would nearly immediately receive rejection notices saying that I wasn't pregnant enough to be covered by even the most basic health plans.

Through this new system, yes I did end up having to mail something in and make somebody else do the work, but I wasn't rejected. I even got my card yesterday.

So yes, single payer would be best, but this new system is leaps and bounds better than the old one. You'd have to have your head buried pretty deep underground to not realize that.


No it isn't better. The laws & regulations stipulating you can't reject based on conditions are good. These changes were perfectly acceptable and good. The government is only good at, meddling & writing checks. Reason being is their processes are very specific. There's no margin of error to direct/catch you if whatever government service you're trying to use deviates from the majority case. If it does, you have to try and learn how to find the correction course or find someone who cares enough to actually help if you are in fact able to get a hold of someone.

The laws & regulations making sure insurers couldn't step on/reject people is _all_ that should've been put into place until the assholes could pull their collective heads out of their asses to come up with something actually clever instead of this monstrosity.


The My Little Pony Killer: divx88: Acquiring the actual insurance is easy.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Good one!


1) call BlueShield, 2) answer questions, 3) give payment

It's easy. The trick is getting the subsidy.
 
2014-01-21 10:32:51 PM  

shanrick: Voiceofreason01: I'm disappointed that the Boobies wasn't "FAKE".

[i.imgur.com image 552x829]


I bet they make squeaky noises when you squeeze them.
 
2014-01-21 10:43:55 PM  
So here's a shocker: Fox News ran with this exact story this morning. (Stop laughing--I was only watching to get my daily allowance of stupidity and couldn't be bothered to listen to my family.) I expect this level of stupidity from the Daily Mail, but I find it difficult really, really easy to believe that Fox News would stoop this low.

So the lady didn't enroll in the Affordable Care Act--that's impossible, as it's a law not some plan. What she did was enroll in health insurance through a private company, then found that it was incredibly difficult to get out of the plan that she bought from a private company. But goddamnit, why let facts get in the way of a good "story" about the scary black guy in the Oval Office and his really scary attempt at fixing a system that has long since been broken?

If it was still legal to do so, health insurance companies would rake in billions of dollars in consumer money for "coverage," and then ensure (heh) that all the doctors they "paid" told insured consumers to "just go home and get a good night's sleep" if it meant that profits could be boosted.

Health insurance is a goddamned scam. Remember decades ago when the physician wasn't the guy in the biggest house in the city? When your doctor didn't need to see your insurance card before he could tend to your broken leg? Now medical school graduates expect to make six-figure incomes right off the bat and live large. How I wish we could return to the days when doctors and hospitals charged reasonable rates and you didn't have to pay an insurance company just in case you should get the flu and can't afford the farking Tamiflu (which, by the by, costs $150 or so, even when you have insurance--and then doctors make sure you take it long enough to pay for a refill, too).

WE. ARE. BONED.
 
2014-01-21 11:15:14 PM  

divx88: No it isn't better. The laws & regulations stipulating you can't reject based on conditions are good. These changes were perfectly acceptable and good. The government is only good at, meddling & writing checks. Reason being is their processes are very specific. There's no margin of error to direct/catch you if whatever government service you're trying to use deviates from the majority case. If it does, you have to try and learn how to find the correction course or find someone who cares enough to actually help if you are in fact able to get a hold of someone.

The laws & regulations making sure insurers couldn't step on/reject people is _all_ that should've been put into place until the assholes could pull their collective heads out of their asses to come up with something actually clever instead of this monstrosity.


You told us what was good about this, but neglected to mention anything specifically bad about it. All the rest of that is you speculating based off of an assumption you're making about the government and what you think it's good at.
 
2014-01-21 11:35:20 PM  
"Ms Hill claims the terminate button on Obamacare's website did not work"

static.giantbomb.com
/hawt
 
2014-01-21 11:35:53 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: divx88: No it isn't better. The laws & regulations stipulating you can't reject based on conditions are good. These changes were perfectly acceptable and good. The government is only good at, meddling & writing checks. Reason being is their processes are very specific. There's no margin of error to direct/catch you if whatever government service you're trying to use deviates from the majority case. If it does, you have to try and learn how to find the correction course or find someone who cares enough to actually help if you are in fact able to get a hold of someone.

The laws & regulations making sure insurers couldn't step on/reject people is _all_ that should've been put into place until the assholes could pull their collective heads out of their asses to come up with something actually clever instead of this monstrosity.

You told us what was good about this, but neglected to mention anything specifically bad about it. All the rest of that is you speculating based off of an assumption you're making about the government and what you think it's good at.


He's apparently having trouble getting approved for his subsidy, therefore the fact that subsidies exist is bad because, like him, no one will ever be able to get them, ever, because monstrosity.
 
2014-01-22 12:05:17 AM  
lol
I've had no trouble at all completely ignoring all this bullshiat. And good luck fining me when the only person capable of reporting my earnings is myself.
 
2014-01-22 12:07:36 AM  

Tom_Slick: If this is true, I can see many people having a legitimate complaint with this.  My current plan was cancelled because per my insurance company it was non-compliant. OK fine, I had to find new coverage, I put off doing anything about because I was busy, well low and behold in late December I received a heck of a deal in the mail from an old insurer, I had shopped through the marketplace and not found any deal this good.  Had I signed up I would have had to cancel to take this offer, if it took more than one or 2 phone calls to cancel I would have been pissed.


Wat?
 
2014-01-22 12:11:20 AM  

The My Little Pony Killer: divx88: No it isn't better. The laws & regulations stipulating you can't reject based on conditions are good. These changes were perfectly acceptable and good. The government is only good at, meddling & writing checks. Reason being is their processes are very specific. There's no margin of error to direct/catch you if whatever government service you're trying to use deviates from the majority case. If it does, you have to try and learn how to find the correction course or find someone who cares enough to actually help if you are in fact able to get a hold of someone.

The laws & regulations making sure insurers couldn't step on/reject people is _all_ that should've been put into place until the assholes could pull their collective heads out of their asses to come up with something actually clever instead of this monstrosity.

You told us what was good about this, but neglected to mention anything specifically bad about it. All the rest of that is you speculating based off of an assumption you're making about the government and what you think it's good at.

No it's not speculation. Here's two different examples.

1) Had to mail in proof that my employer didn't cover insurance for me on their official letterhead. I ask the couple companies I have a W-2 income with for that and send it in registered mail. "Never received it" even though delivery confirmation says otherwise. Went on a lovely phone chase only to be asked to send again. Also had to change to a more expensive plan to continue seeing my doctor.

2) Helped a friend who had a stipulation needed to send in proof of US citizenship. The healthcare.gov website upload form didn't work, they sent it in registered mail to the address specified by the person on the phone. About a month a a half after this, this whole thing came up in conversation. We jumped on the (healthcare.gov) website to check it out. Their account still was requesting the documentation, the web form still didn't work & live help couldn't do anything more than provide pleasant conversation. Called, person on the phone redirected us to call another number. Resulted in 3 more phone redirects which ended up in "so sorry, can't help, mail it again".


Both incidents have a delivery receipt and farktards on the other end who won't or can't help for some reason.

I'm sure it appears like everything is flowers and sunshine if you've never tried applying or were lucky enough to not encounter any errors.

What's bad is saying you're going to help give people insurance who can't afford it then make it so farking convoluted people say fark it. Regulating insurance companies is great, it's the only thing that was done correctly. If you're going to provide insurance to people, don't make it some half assed shiat storm.
 
2014-01-22 01:02:55 AM  
what a joke.
families that cannot afford to visit a doctor now have to make monthly insurance payments, and still cannot afford to see a doctor due to the high deductibles.

obama and the rest of the libtards are idiots.
 
2014-01-22 07:35:27 AM  
Someone doesn't know how to escalate an issue with the idiots at the insurance company?

Can I talk to your supervisor?
Can I talk to your manager?
Can I talk to your director?

etc.........
 
2014-01-22 07:49:01 AM  

Popular Opinion: what a joke.
families that cannot afford to visit a doctor now have to make monthly insurance payments, and still cannot afford to see a doctor due to the high deductibles.

obama and the rest of the libtards are idiots.



Please report to the nearest FEMA camp for re-education.
 
2014-01-22 07:56:50 AM  

Popular Opinion: what a joke.
families that cannot afford to visit a doctor now have to make monthly insurance payments, and still cannot afford to see a doctor due to the high deductibles.

obama and the rest of the libtards are idiots.



I'm glad you support single-payer.
 
2014-01-22 09:59:06 AM  

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man, that's some seriously deep and cutting political humor you've got there!

or... i'm sorry - are you five?
 
2014-01-22 10:37:33 AM  

FlashHarry: Dadoody: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 316x236]

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man, that's some seriously deep and cutting political humor you've got there!

or... i'm sorry - are you five?


Why is pointing out the obvious acting like you're five?

Obama's voter base is 90% low-information voter and 10% limousine liberal.

You do realize that the other half of the country (the ones who watch Fox news that people like you seem to think are the antichrist) think liberals/democrats are fools, right? In other words, it works both ways. The redeeming trait is that they believe in patriotism, small government, not killing babies (55 million babies killed since Roe), and raising children with good moral character, which a lot of times means growing up with some religion.

The point is, I look at liberals with scorn just as you look at conservatives that way. The great thing about this country is that we've got so many freedoms, and we can do that. Unfortunately our current president has no respect for the system and has been using executive fiat to rule as he sees fit. Why do you think he wants to give illegals a path to citizenship and hand out freebies to the low-info voters? Do these people really think he cares about them? This is a president who spends his time golfing, jetsetting to Hawaii, and partying with Jay-Z. That's why conservatives call you low-info.
 
2014-01-22 10:44:22 AM  

rigmort: The point is, I look at liberals with scorn just as you look at conservatives that way.


LOL.  Yes, because if you want to know how a liberal thinks, you should ask a conservative.  Thanks for telling me what I think of conservatives.  I am too stoopid to know what to think for myself, and I has sadz, and you fixeded it forz me.

rigmort: This is a president who spends his time golfing, jetsetting to Hawaii, and partying with Jay-Z. That's why conservatives call you low-info.


LOL.  Sorry; you were trolling.   Too bad you're on a nearly dead thread, but you got one response!   Horayz!  You are the trollzz  winnerz!   You win glittery eagle pony!
 
2014-01-22 10:57:25 AM  

The Larch: rigmort: The point is, I look at liberals with scorn just as you look at conservatives that way.

LOL.  Yes, because if you want to know how a liberal thinks, you should ask a conservative.  Thanks for telling me what I think of conservatives.  I am too stoopid to know what to think for myself, and I has sadz, and you fixeded it forz me.

rigmort: This is a president who spends his time golfing, jetsetting to Hawaii, and partying with Jay-Z. That's why conservatives call you low-info.

LOL.  Sorry; you were trolling.   Too bad you're on a nearly dead thread, but you got one response!   Horayz!  You are the trollzz  winnerz!   You win glittery eagle pony!


Case in point.
 
2014-01-22 11:09:21 AM  

rigmort: This is a president who spends his time golfing



And that's a problem... why?

He's not the first president to play golf.
http://www.golfdigest.com/magazine/2009-02/presidentsranking
 
2014-01-22 11:12:05 AM  

rigmort: Unfortunately our current president has no respect for the system and has been using executive fiat to rule as he sees fit.


"The average for all twenty presidents is 44 per annum (p.a.), with Democrats averaging 59 p.a. and Republicans averaging 34 p.a. Harry Truman had the highest rate of decree issuance (113 p.a.), while below the long-term average of 44 p.a., and lower also than the rate of five GOP presidents - including Gerald Ford (84 p.a.), Dwight Eisenhower (60 p.a.), Richard Nixon (58 p.a.), Ronald Reagan (48 p.a.), and George H.W. Bush (41 p.a.). "
http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardsalsman/2013/01/28/when-it-comes- to -abuse-of-presidential-power-obama-is-a-mere-piker/
 
2014-01-22 12:02:28 PM  
I recommend you jump over the border to mexico, bribe the officials for a mexican ID, then declare yourself to be an illegal alien.

Free medical care for life, also no bills, no insurance to pay.  Hit someone with your car, you are home free; get hit in an accident, and you can sue the hell ouyt of them.

Works like a champ for the 12 million illegals already in this country.
 
2014-01-22 05:44:12 PM  

rigmort: Unfortunately our current president has no respect for the system and has been using executive fiat to rule as he sees fit. Why do you think he wants to give illegals a path to citizenship and hand out freebies to the low-info voters? Do these people really think he cares about them? This is a president who spends his time golfing, jetsetting to Hawaii, and partying with Jay-Z. That's why conservatives call you low-info.


Being completely ignorant of reality and history is a pretty good definition of 'low-info'.
 
2014-01-22 08:33:51 PM  

theknuckler_33: rigmort: Unfortunately our current president has no respect for the system and has been using executive fiat to rule as he sees fit. Why do you think he wants to give illegals a path to citizenship and hand out freebies to the low-info voters? Do these people really think he cares about them? This is a president who spends his time golfing, jetsetting to Hawaii, and partying with Jay-Z. That's why conservatives call you low-info.

Being completely ignorant of reality and history is a pretty good definition of 'low-info'.


He was spot on.

Obama is the most corrupt pred we have ever had. Latest is lawsuit against S+P, after threatening the CEO, and still moron libs support him.
 
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