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(The Morning Call)   Pennsylvania town fining elderly couple $1000 per day because "their bird feeder has been deemed out of compliance with town code." Fark: They've been feeding birds the same way for 25 years   (mcall.com) divider line 15
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2014-01-21 08:38:09 PM
4 votes:

zeio: Welcome to Police State USSA, a kafka-esqe police state and brazil-movie like bureaucracy filled with spineless traitor drones taking pay and pension from We The People. Welcome to where the labor participation rate is the lowest in 30 years, yet there are 90 million more people than in 1983. Welcome to no freedom, no liberty, anti-family and anti-faith USSA. Sucks dont it.


Zeio, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this threadis now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may the Obamesseiah have mercy on your soul.
2014-01-21 08:11:02 PM
3 votes:

zeio: Welcome to Police State USSA, a kafka-esqe police state and brazil-movie like bureaucracy filled with spineless traitor drones taking pay and pension from We The People. Welcome to where the labor participation rate is the lowest in 30 years, yet there are 90 million more people than in 1983. Welcome to no freedom, no liberty, anti-family and anti-faith USSA. Sucks dont it.


For a no-freedom Nazi land, it seems that they got the problem reversed with minimal effort.
2014-01-21 07:21:00 PM
3 votes:
Farking busy body neighbors.........

/can't be happy unless they are in everybody's business
2014-01-21 08:57:21 PM
2 votes:

zeio: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Not to step on anyone's tweenage-libertarian rant, but how is that a "yet"?

How is pointing out the destruction of the middle class, debt and the horrible job situation a "libertarian rant"?



Same way that crying that all freedom is lost is pointing out the destruction of the middle class, debt, and the horrible job situation.


Whats your proposal to fix the middle class?
Treat capital gains as ordinary income, raise the marginal tax rate over $1M/yr, put real limits on political contributions (and tax political religious organisations), break up anything that's "too big to fail," spend tax money on infrastructure and education and science rather than corporate welfare and the military, strengthen labor and discrimination law, destroy employers who knowingly use illegal labor, give adequate staff and better teeth to enforcement of securities and antitrust and tax regulation, end the war on drugs (and militarisation of the police), reduce military operations overseas, enhance and streamline the social safety net, improve access to family planning resources, move to single-payer healthcare, and stop electing total assholes.
2014-01-21 08:44:28 PM
2 votes:
Eat the deer and squirrels. Problem solved.
2014-01-21 08:33:41 PM
2 votes:
Am I missing something?  It seems this is being handled rationally and with compassion and understanding for all parties involved.  This is how it's supposed to work, our country was built on compromise.  Black and white politics are for 3rd world countries.
2014-01-21 08:27:05 PM
2 votes:

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Not to step on anyone's tweenage-libertarian rant, but how is that a "yet"?


How is pointing out the destruction of the middle class, debt and the horrible job situation a "libertarian rant"?

Whats your proposal to fix the middle class? Where do you draw the line about what governments can and cannot tell you what to do?

Another John Stewart type snickering and laughing and being a snarky online twerker while offering no solutions and laughing as the place burns to the ground. Real her0.
2014-01-21 07:22:51 PM
2 votes:
sometimes I'm out there six, eight times a day chasing the squirrels

Crazy old bastard sounds like more of a nuisance than the wildlife.
2014-01-21 11:33:25 PM
1 votes:

King Something: The part of the Town Code they were violating by feeding birds, was it put in place before or after they started feeding the birds?

If it was in place before, then the couple would have to pay the fine or challenge the validity of the law in court (and probably be forced to pay all court costs beforehand, lest precedent be set that the poors have just as much right to challenge unjust laws as real people, but that's another discussion for another thread).

If it wasn't implemented until after they started, then the part of the US Constitution which prohibits ex post facto laws means that the couple can continue feeding the birds without paying so much as one Zimbabwean dollar in fines and anyone on the town council who doesn't like it can go lick a horse's ass.


Great, then I'll just light up a cigarette in a restaurant because I used to do that legally, then drive my car home with a .10 BAC because that used to be legal as well.  No need to renew my driver's license or registration because I have driven legally in the past.  Just because something was once legal doesn't mean it still is.  Ex post facto prevents the state from charging you for committing the act before it was illegal, but if it is made illegal and you commit the act again you can certainly be charged.  Just because some laws have a "grandfather clause" built into them does not mean it is a requirement.
2014-01-21 09:09:17 PM
1 votes:
When I lived in Brisbane (opposite a police station), I had a bird bath out the front for about 5 years because our summers are brutal, and the birds get damn thirsty. We had a soliciter couple buy the house next door, and spent 6 months doing noisy/dusty renovations. Still no problem, till the day they finished and actually moved in.

I got an legal threat in my letterbox the next day about the bird bath - apparently during the heat of the day about some galahs that turned up in the heat of the day - and they considered them pests.

Meh, it was bullshiat but I had more important battles to fight at the time, so that Saturday I was out front demolishing the bird bath, which drew the coppers attention (they'd smoke out back which was directly opposite our driveway). Had a chat and finished the job.

That monday, the police put in their own birdbath, and get this - a parrot feeder. Within a week we had whole flocks of screaming sulfur crested cockatoos hanging around the police station. These are big birds and they are loud - sounding like a pterodactyl from "Lost Planet". It was piss funny.

Sometimes when they started before 6am in the morning it was mildly annoying, but both myself and my (other neighbour) both agreed it was worth it. Couple of weeks later, one of the coppers (butting out his ciggy) wryly commented they hadn't received any complaints yet.
2014-01-21 08:46:21 PM
1 votes:

zeio: Satanic_Hamster: For a no-freedom Nazi land, it seems that they got the problem reversed with minimal effort.

Yeah, we dont have overbearing government. Lol. The fact this rubbish even enters people minds is the sign of the times. In the late 1700's , bull like this would get you shot at. People are too busy being fat and lazy and have to go run up in other's business.


OH.  I'm sorry, I didn't realize I was talking to a crazy person.  My bad.
2014-01-21 08:35:39 PM
1 votes:
Amerika-ka-ka is full of dogmatic fascists who want the liberal democratic Government out of their hair.

These are called Home Owners Associations.

City bi-laws are just petty dictators writ large.

They want the following people off their lawns:  children, dogs, blacks, Hispanics (unless gardening), non-Christians, homosexuals, the poor, hipsters, teenagers, immigrants, natives, divorcees, and everybody not cloned from their own blood and bone. Because they are the people in their neighBorghood.

Their motto:  STOP LIKING WHAT WE DON'T LIKE! EIN FOLK, EIN REICH, EIN SPRACHT, EIN NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH CAPTAIN.
2014-01-21 08:29:54 PM
1 votes:

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: zeio: Welcome to where the labor participation rate is the lowest in 30 years, yet there are 90 million more people than in 1983.

Not to step on anyone's tweenage-libertarian rant, but how is that a "yet"?


Simple.  There are more people available to work, and therefore the Job Creators (tm) should be increasing the number of people hired.  If there weren't so many unnecessarily burdensome regulations, then the Job Creators (tm) would have hired all these additional people, and then some, increasing the labor participation rate.  But because of 0bama and his Neo-Nazi Commie Liberals, the Job Creators (tm) have been barred from blessing this country with their economic magic, and instead we're now a nation of freeloaders that want more taxes and more local municipal regulations regarding bird feeders.  And we don't call our moms as often as we should.
2014-01-21 08:09:33 PM
1 votes:
Welcome to Police State USSA, a kafka-esqe police state and brazil-movie like bureaucracy filled with spineless traitor drones taking pay and pension from We The People. Welcome to where the labor participation rate is the lowest in 30 years, yet there are 90 million more people than in 1983. Welcome to no freedom, no liberty, anti-family and anti-faith USSA. Sucks dont it.
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-01-21 07:11:09 PM
1 votes:
While all efforts were made to comply with the law, Diane Ganssle said she has learned the entire episode is the result of someone complaining about deer and how their bird feeders are attracting deer.

Is bow hunting legal in the city? Invite the neighbors over for a hunting party. BYOB.

Some towns in my area hate guns and aren't too fond of hunters, but are considering a bow hunting season for deer because they are such pests.
 
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