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2014-01-21 02:46:20 PM
It's not, but it's the starting place.
 
2014-01-21 02:47:48 PM
So why do we think CTE, or post-concussion brain damage, is just for the NFL?

I've literally never heard anyone anywhere make that claim ever.
 
2014-01-21 02:51:41 PM
We don't think that, but obviously the media attention is where the money is.
 
2014-01-21 02:54:21 PM
To date, only 33 dead ex-NFL players have been diagnosed with CTE, along with a small handful from other sports. But according to [this] list, not a single one of those diagnosed with CTE was a female athlete, and there's little evidence that anybody's looking for them.

Well, duh.  When it comes to medical research, men are always treated as more important, unless there's a huge campaign for years, like with breast cancer.
 
2014-01-21 02:57:09 PM
This is a perfect example of how sources quote other sources incompetently and come up with factoids that are complete lies which are then copied into fark headlines for credulous people to recycle the misinformation.

When you follow the link in the article to their source, it says that male high school athletes have more concussions:

"Boys suffer the largest number of concussions overall because they play football. But when football is excluded, girls suffer more concussions, especially in soccer and basketball."

http://news.medill.northwestern.edu/chicago/news.aspx?id=75789
 
2014-01-21 03:01:22 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: To date, only 33 dead ex-NFL players have been diagnosed with CTE, along with a small handful from other sports. But according to [this] list, not a single one of those diagnosed with CTE was a female athlete, and there's little evidence that anybody's looking for them.

Well, duh.  When it comes to medical research, men are always treated as more important, unless there's a huge campaign for years, like with breast cancer.


You're reading an article that says male athletes have fewer concussions, linking to a source that says male athletes have more concussions. And that's evidence nobody cares about women's health?
 
2014-01-21 03:03:49 PM

itcamefromschenectady: Benevolent Misanthrope: To date, only 33 dead ex-NFL players have been diagnosed with CTE, along with a small handful from other sports. But according to [this] list, not a single one of those diagnosed with CTE was a female athlete, and there's little evidence that anybody's looking for them.

Well, duh.  When it comes to medical research, men are always treated as more important, unless there's a huge campaign for years, like with breast cancer.

You're reading an article that says male athletes have fewer concussions, linking to a source that says male athletes have more concussions. And that's evidence nobody cares about women's health?


You're commenting on a statement from that same article saying that no one is looking for signs of CTE in female athletes, but only in male athletes, and taking it as a sign that medical research is as interested in women's health as men's?
 
2014-01-21 03:06:25 PM

itcamefromschenectady: This is a perfect example of how sources quote other sources incompetently and come up with factoids that are complete lies which are then copied into fark headlines for credulous people to recycle the misinformation.

When you follow the link in the article to their source, it says that male high school athletes have more concussions:

"Boys suffer the largest number of concussions overall because they play football. But when football is excluded, girls suffer more concussions, especially in soccer and basketball."

http://news.medill.northwestern.edu/chicago/news.aspx?id=75789


Bonus points for a rare correct usage of the term 'factoid' as Norman Mailer intended it to be used.
 
2014-01-21 03:21:53 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: itcamefromschenectady: Benevolent Misanthrope: To date, only 33 dead ex-NFL players have been diagnosed with CTE, along with a small handful from other sports. But according to [this] list, not a single one of those diagnosed with CTE was a female athlete, and there's little evidence that anybody's looking for them.

Well, duh.  When it comes to medical research, men are always treated as more important, unless there's a huge campaign for years, like with breast cancer.

You're reading an article that says male athletes have fewer concussions, linking to a source that says male athletes have more concussions. And that's evidence nobody cares about women's health?

You're commenting on a statement from that same article saying that no one is looking for signs of CTE in female athletes, but only in male athletes, and taking it as a sign that medical research is as interested in women's health as men's?


No, I'm not, and it doesn't say that anyway.
 
2014-01-21 03:34:38 PM

itcamefromschenectady: Benevolent Misanthrope: itcamefromschenectady: Benevolent Misanthrope: To date, only 33 dead ex-NFL players have been diagnosed with CTE, along with a small handful from other sports. But according to [this] list, not a single one of those diagnosed with CTE was a female athlete, and there's little evidence that anybody's looking for them.

Well, duh.  When it comes to medical research, men are always treated as more important, unless there's a huge campaign for years, like with breast cancer.

You're reading an article that says male athletes have fewer concussions, linking to a source that says male athletes have more concussions. And that's evidence nobody cares about women's health?

You're commenting on a statement from that same article saying that no one is looking for signs of CTE in female athletes, but only in male athletes, and taking it as a sign that medical research is as interested in women's health as men's?

No, I'm not, and it doesn't say that anyway.


Wow.  Are you a Republican or something?  I've rarely seen anyone who could contradict something in the exact same post so brazenly and expect no one to notice.
 
2014-01-21 03:41:07 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: itcamefromschenectady: Benevolent Misanthrope: itcamefromschenectady: Benevolent Misanthrope: To date, only 33 dead ex-NFL players have been diagnosed with CTE, along with a small handful from other sports. But according to [this] list, not a single one of those diagnosed with CTE was a female athlete, and there's little evidence that anybody's looking for them.

Well, duh.  When it comes to medical research, men are always treated as more important, unless there's a huge campaign for years, like with breast cancer.

You're reading an article that says male athletes have fewer concussions, linking to a source that says male athletes have more concussions. And that's evidence nobody cares about women's health?

You're commenting on a statement from that same article saying that no one is looking for signs of CTE in female athletes, but only in male athletes, and taking it as a sign that medical research is as interested in women's health as men's?

No, I'm not, and it doesn't say that anyway.

Wow.  Are you a Republican or something?  I've rarely seen anyone who could contradict something in the exact same post so brazenly and expect no one to notice.


You said "no one" is looking for CTE in women. That's not in the article. The article said there is "little evidence" people are looking - but it also said "the athletes who have been diagnosed with the condition are numbered. They're predominantly male." Predominantly male means there are some who are female. So you are contradicting the article, the article is contradicting itself, the article is making stuff up, you're making stuff up that doesn't agree with the article, and you're telling me I'm contradicting myself.
 
2014-01-21 03:43:14 PM

itcamefromschenectady: Benevolent Misanthrope: itcamefromschenectady: Benevolent Misanthrope: itcamefromschenectady: Benevolent Misanthrope: To date, only 33 dead ex-NFL players have been diagnosed with CTE, along with a small handful from other sports. But according to [this] list, not a single one of those diagnosed with CTE was a female athlete, and there's little evidence that anybody's looking for them.

Well, duh.  When it comes to medical research, men are always treated as more important, unless there's a huge campaign for years, like with breast cancer.

You're reading an article that says male athletes have fewer concussions, linking to a source that says male athletes have more concussions. And that's evidence nobody cares about women's health?

You're commenting on a statement from that same article saying that no one is looking for signs of CTE in female athletes, but only in male athletes, and taking it as a sign that medical research is as interested in women's health as men's?

No, I'm not, and it doesn't say that anyway.

Wow.  Are you a Republican or something?  I've rarely seen anyone who could contradict something in the exact same post so brazenly and expect no one to notice.

You said "no one" is looking for CTE in women. That's not in the article. The article said there is "little evidence" people are looking - but it also said "the athletes who have been diagnosed with the condition are numbered. They're predominantly male." Predominantly male means there are some who are female. So you are contradicting the article, the article is contradicting itself, the article is making stuff up, you're making stuff up that doesn't agree with the article, and you're telling me I'm contradicting myself.


Ah.  Lawyer-specific language.  I get it!  You're trolling!

OK, you got one.  Carry on.
 
2014-01-21 03:44:42 PM
Why can't the researchers get this through their thick heads?
 
2014-01-21 03:53:30 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: itcamefromschenectady: Benevolent Misanthrope: itcamefromschenectady: Benevolent Misanthrope: itcamefromschenectady: Benevolent Misanthrope: To date, only 33 dead ex-NFL players have been diagnosed with CTE, along with a small handful from other sports. But according to [this] list, not a single one of those diagnosed with CTE was a female athlete, and there's little evidence that anybody's looking for them.

Well, duh.  When it comes to medical research, men are always treated as more important, unless there's a huge campaign for years, like with breast cancer.

You're reading an article that says male athletes have fewer concussions, linking to a source that says male athletes have more concussions. And that's evidence nobody cares about women's health?

You're commenting on a statement from that same article saying that no one is looking for signs of CTE in female athletes, but only in male athletes, and taking it as a sign that medical research is as interested in women's health as men's?

No, I'm not, and it doesn't say that anyway.

Wow.  Are you a Republican or something?  I've rarely seen anyone who could contradict something in the exact same post so brazenly and expect no one to notice.

You said "no one" is looking for CTE in women. That's not in the article. The article said there is "little evidence" people are looking - but it also said "the athletes who have been diagnosed with the condition are numbered. They're predominantly male." Predominantly male means there are some who are female. So you are contradicting the article, the article is contradicting itself, the article is making stuff up, you're making stuff up that doesn't agree with the article, and you're telling me I'm contradicting myself.

Ah.  Lawyer-specific language.  I get it!  You're trolling!

OK, you got one.  Carry on.


I consider lawyerly specific language to be a good thing, although I am not a lawyer. I also think you and the article writer are trolls, and I should probably relax and move on.
 
2014-01-21 03:56:30 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: To date, only 33 dead ex-NFL players have been diagnosed with CTE, along with a small handful from other sports. But according to [this] list, not a single one of those diagnosed with CTE was a female athlete, and there's little evidence that anybody's looking for them.

Well, duh.  When it comes to medical research, men are always treated as more important, unless there's a huge campaign for years, like with breast cancer.


Female cancers get the largest single chunk of research funding for cancer.  Breast cancer alone gets 21%, and when you add ovarian (4%), uterine (1%), vaginal (0%) and cervical cancers (3%), you get nearly a 1/3rd of all research dollars spent on female-specific cancers.

Testicular and penile cancers both are at the 0% level (meaning probably below 0.5%), and prostate cancer gets 10%.  So the women get almost 3 times the amount of cancer funding than men, at least according to the National Cancer Institute.

The single largest type of cancer to get funding is breast cancer, which gets more than twice the amount of funding of any other single category.

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-01-21 04:04:11 PM
I blame Title IX
 
2014-01-21 04:17:07 PM
If the women are blond it is really hard to diagnose concussion
 
2014-01-21 04:36:35 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: You're commenting on a statement from that same article saying that no one is looking for signs of CTE in female athletes, but only in male athletes, and taking it as a sign that medical research is as interested in women's health as men's?


You're not actually claiming medical research is more interested in men's health than women, are you?  Because that'd be as stupid as the headline here is
 
2014-01-21 04:37:29 PM
On their days off NFL players dress in nighties? NTTIAWWT
 
2014-01-21 04:38:33 PM

dittybopper: The single largest type of cancer to get funding is breast cancer, which gets more than twice the amount of funding of any other single category


Ah Benevolent has been doing this forever. Always trying to make everything that is wrong with the world the fault of the patriarchy. She is every womens studies student all wrapped up in one.
 
2014-01-21 04:43:05 PM
I didnt know there was a full contact kitchen.......
 
2014-01-21 04:55:01 PM

Chris Ween: I blame Title IX


Title IX raped my car and stole my mom...
 
2014-01-21 04:57:39 PM

Ponzholio: Chris Ween: I blame Title IX

Title IX raped my car and stole my mom...


Damn, that's terrible. Title IX pissed in my face and punched me in the cheerios that one morning, but it really had it in for you.
 
2014-01-21 04:58:52 PM
During a player's career, the brain suffers blow after blow after blow, and retired players later display many symptoms of brain damage: dementia; loss of motor skills; depression; homicidal and suicidal behavior, and so on.

www.fighthubtv.com

Explains a lot.

/yes, I know it says "retired players"
 
2014-01-21 05:05:49 PM

sigdiamond2000: I've literally never heard anyone anywhere make that claim ever.

 
2014-01-21 05:09:36 PM

Son of Thunder: During a player's career, the brain suffers blow after blow after blow, and retired players later display many symptoms of brain damage: dementia; loss of motor skills; depression; homicidal and suicidal behavior, and so on.

[www.fighthubtv.com image 559x419]

Explains a lot.

/yes, I know it says "retired players"


came here hoping for pics of hot female athletes

am massively disappointed so far
 
2014-01-21 05:10:19 PM
Because people like to take shots at the king. It's easy, and there's always a nice vocal group to join them who want to blame the current industry leader for all the world's woes.
 
2014-01-21 05:16:02 PM
Also, hello punch drunk, a phenenom we've known about, if not scientifically understood for about five decades or more.

But it's not cool to bash boxing, it's just a niche sport. So NFL it is, it's just so popular I hate it soooo much!
 
2014-01-21 05:20:34 PM
Because football has a shiat ton more banging heads than any other sport.  For most sports, it's only a rare accident.  In football, it was encouraged until very recently.
 
2014-01-21 05:27:52 PM

itcamefromschenectady: This is a perfect example of how sources quote other sources incompetently and come up with factoids that are complete lies which are then copied into fark headlines for credulous people to recycle the misinformation.

When you follow the link in the article to their source, it says that male high school athletes have more concussions:

"Boys suffer the largest number of concussions overall because they play football. But when football is excluded, girls suffer more concussions, especially in soccer and basketball."

http://news.medill.northwestern.edu/chicago/news.aspx?id=75789


If your goal is to compare the risk of concussion between male and female athletes it makes sense to exclude sports which are predominantly single-sex.

Both men and women commonly play soccer and basketball, and the rules are similar in the men's and women's games, so the data from those sports would make more sense than throwing football and field hockey into the mix.

From another article I was reading before, the most dangerous sport of them all in terms of risk of death or serious injury (not just concussions) is women's gymnastics.
 
2014-01-21 05:29:26 PM
Female athletes suffer more concussions than male athletes, and their brains take longer to recover.

So you're saying I have a chance?
 
2014-01-21 05:32:12 PM

walkingtall: dittybopper: The single largest type of cancer to get funding is breast cancer, which gets more than twice the amount of funding of any other single category

Ah Benevolent has been doing this forever. Always trying to make everything that is wrong with the world the fault of the patriarchy. She is every womens studies student all wrapped up in one.


Except for the fact that men can get breast cancer as well you had a strong argument going there. Dipshiat.
 
2014-01-21 05:32:18 PM
Maybe disease itself is sexist.  Men rarely get breast cancer, and I've not heard of a case of women getting prostate cancer.  It's just nature.
 
2014-01-21 05:32:49 PM

dittybopper: Female cancers get the largest single chunk of research funding for cancer.  Breast cancer alone gets 21%, and when you add ovarian (4%), uterine (1%), vaginal (0%) and cervical cancers (3%), you get nearly a 1/3rd of all research dollars spent on female-specific cancers.

Testicular and penile cancers both are at the 0% level (meaning probably below 0.5%), and prostate cancer gets 10%.  So the women get almost 3 times the amount of cancer funding than men, at least according to the National Cancer Institute.

The single largest type of cancer to get funding is breast cancer, which gets more than twice the amount of funding of any other single category.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 451x640]


Gosh, I wonder why...
www.cancerresearchuk.org
 
2014-01-21 05:32:50 PM

walkingtall: dittybopper: The single largest type of cancer to get funding is breast cancer, which gets more than twice the amount of funding of any other single category

Ah Benevolent has been doing this forever. Always trying to make everything that is wrong with the world the fault of the patriarchy. She is every womens studies student all wrapped up in one.


Only a feminist could view the consequences people are discovering about CTE in football players as a reason to get pissed that it's putting too much attention on men's health.
 
2014-01-21 05:34:50 PM

Theaetetus: dittybopper: Female cancers get the largest single chunk of research funding for cancer.  Breast cancer alone gets 21%, and when you add ovarian (4%), uterine (1%), vaginal (0%) and cervical cancers (3%), you get nearly a 1/3rd of all research dollars spent on female-specific cancers.

Testicular and penile cancers both are at the 0% level (meaning probably below 0.5%), and prostate cancer gets 10%.  So the women get almost 3 times the amount of cancer funding than men, at least according to the National Cancer Institute.

The single largest type of cancer to get funding is breast cancer, which gets more than twice the amount of funding of any other single category.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 451x640]

Gosh, I wonder why...
[www.cancerresearchuk.org image 640x532]


Misleading.

Breast cancer is super easy to test for. Of course you're going to see more cases detected than say... colon cancer. Also, with the colon, they like to burn off polyps all the time.
 
2014-01-21 05:36:02 PM

Theaetetus: dittybopper: Female cancers get the largest single chunk of research funding for cancer.  Breast cancer alone gets 21%, and when you add ovarian (4%), uterine (1%), vaginal (0%) and cervical cancers (3%), you get nearly a 1/3rd of all research dollars spent on female-specific cancers.

Testicular and penile cancers both are at the 0% level (meaning probably below 0.5%), and prostate cancer gets 10%.  So the women get almost 3 times the amount of cancer funding than men, at least according to the National Cancer Institute.

The single largest type of cancer to get funding is breast cancer, which gets more than twice the amount of funding of any other single category.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 451x640]

Gosh, I wonder why...
[www.cancerresearchuk.org image 640x532]


Um...

i.stack.imgur.com
 
2014-01-21 05:39:18 PM

doglover: Misleading.

Breast cancer is super easy to test for. Of course you're going to see more cases detected than say... colon cancer. Also, with the colon, they like to burn off polyps all the time.


Oh his response is far stupider than "misleading."
 
2014-01-21 05:42:27 PM
So, female athletes? And we got one effing picture?!?

img854.imageshack.us
 
2014-01-21 05:47:30 PM

TuteTibiImperes: itcamefromschenectady: This is a perfect example of how sources quote other sources incompetently and come up with factoids that are complete lies which are then copied into fark headlines for credulous people to recycle the misinformation.

When you follow the link in the article to their source, it says that male high school athletes have more concussions:

"Boys suffer the largest number of concussions overall because they play football. But when football is excluded, girls suffer more concussions, especially in soccer and basketball."

http://news.medill.northwestern.edu/chicago/news.aspx?id=75789

If your goal is to compare the risk of concussion between male and female athletes it makes sense to exclude sports which are predominantly single-sex.

Both men and women commonly play soccer and basketball, and the rules are similar in the men's and women's games, so the data from those sports would make more sense than throwing football and field hockey into the mix.

From another article I was reading before, the most dangerous sport of them all in terms of risk of death or serious injury (not just concussions) is women's gymnastics.


I hadnt heard about gymnastics being super dangerous but I could see how.

Boxing as actually more dangerous in the gloves era than it was in bare knuckles era because the glove actually protects the puncher's hand and wrists more than the punched's head allowing harder punches to be thrown.
 
2014-01-21 05:56:09 PM
i think i've watched some videos where guys gave girls a concussion by spearing it to the back of their skull from the front.
 
2014-01-21 05:57:15 PM

Oldiron_79: Boxing as actually more dangerous in the gloves era than it was in bare knuckles era because the glove actually protects the puncher's hand and wrists more than the punched's head allowing harder punches to be thrown.


Not to mention adding 16oz to the weight of the object doing the striking...
 
2014-01-21 05:58:02 PM

steamingpile: I didnt know there was a full contact kitchen.......


www.troll.me
 
2014-01-21 06:00:14 PM

lennavan: Theaetetus: dittybopper: Female cancers get the largest single chunk of research funding for cancer.  Breast cancer alone gets 21%, and when you add ovarian (4%), uterine (1%), vaginal (0%) and cervical cancers (3%), you get nearly a 1/3rd of all research dollars spent on female-specific cancers.

Testicular and penile cancers both are at the 0% level (meaning probably below 0.5%), and prostate cancer gets 10%.  So the women get almost 3 times the amount of cancer funding than men, at least according to the National Cancer Institute.

The single largest type of cancer to get funding is breast cancer, which gets more than twice the amount of funding of any other single category.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 451x640]

Gosh, I wonder why...
[www.cancerresearchuk.org image 640x532]

Um...

[i.stack.imgur.com image 750x600]


topbet.eu
 
2014-01-21 06:10:39 PM

Oldiron_79: Boxing as actually more dangerous in the gloves era than it was in bare knuckles era because the glove actually protects the puncher's hand and wrists more than the punched's head allowing harder punches to be thrown.


...are you also advocating football players not wear helmets?
 
2014-01-21 06:28:12 PM

IlGreven: Oldiron_79: Boxing as actually more dangerous in the gloves era than it was in bare knuckles era because the glove actually protects the puncher's hand and wrists more than the punched's head allowing harder punches to be thrown.

...are you also advocating football players not wear helmets?


No, football was much more dangerous in the pre helmet and leather helmet days than it is now.Freaking deaths where common. In 1905 there was 19 head injury deaths in college football.
 
2014-01-21 06:29:22 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: So, female athletes? And we got one effing picture?!?


Ill be in my bunk
 
2014-01-21 06:36:59 PM
Well women get CTE from those damn unpadded headboards.
 
2014-01-21 06:39:14 PM
Because the NFL has successfully confused everybody to think the issue is concussions, when the issue is continual sub-concussive events
 
2014-01-21 06:51:59 PM
Obviously there was a focus on football, the whole thing came from looking into issues among retired football players. Guess what, most football players are male especially at a high level.

I suspect there will be NHL players on the list fairly soon. And then you reach the issue where other sports generally don't have significant money for retired players to care too much or concussions are a relatively rare occurance.

It will eventually filter down to all sports. But when looking for people suffering multiple concussions I bet that the trend will always show more men.
 
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