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(Apple Insider)   Apple patents technology that allows TV viewers to skip commercials. Seems some networks may have a problems with that   (appleinsider.com) divider line 53
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2014-01-21 02:24:42 PM
Didn't the Hopper do something similar and there are/were court cases?
 
2014-01-21 02:28:56 PM
www.marketmenot.com

Anastacya: Didn't the Hopper do something similar and there are/were court cases?


Aaaaaaaaa!
 
2014-01-21 02:35:01 PM
S.R. Hadden laughs from space.
 
2014-01-21 02:37:38 PM
Pfft. I've had that ability for some time now.

ts3.mm.bing.net
 
2014-01-21 02:38:16 PM
Apple patented TiVo?

When the fark did they invent a time machine, and why haven't they patented that?
 
2014-01-21 02:41:18 PM
Before people just assume a headline of the article or fark is what was actually patented, the actual claim:

A method for selecting content performed by a media player receiving a plurality of content streams, the method comprising: receiving content selection criteria; receiving a plurality of first items of content associated with the plurality of content streams, wherein each first item of content represents content available through a respective content stream, and wherein each first item of content satisfies the content selection criteria; generating, from the plurality of first items of content associated with the plurality of content streams, a navigation stream that includes the plurality of first items of content associated with the plurality of content streams; providing the plurality of first items of content included in the navigation stream in a temporal sequence to the media player; detecting an input for content that includes a selection of a first item of content; and in response to detecting the input for content, continuously presenting, in a content stream at the media player, a plurality of second items of content carried by the plurality of content streams, wherein each second item of content satisfies the content selection criteria.
 
2014-01-21 02:44:42 PM

Anastacya: Didn't the Hopper do something similar and there are/were court cases?


Different situation there. Dish contracts with the stations for re-broadcast rights. The stations all complained that such an innovation would be a violation of contract and copyright, essentially making an "unauthorised version of a copyrighted TV show" since it was recording the programming for the consumer.

Apple's innovation is, apparently, able to do this with live streaming -- no copies, and thus no potential copyright violations, are being created. It really is no different than a listener simply switching stations when the commercials come on.
 
2014-01-21 02:44:50 PM

fluffy2097: Apple patented TiVo?


where's my no monthly fee dvr?
that, and this paddle ball game is all I need.
 
2014-01-21 02:45:42 PM

hammer85: Before people just assume a headline of the article or fark is what was actually patented, the actual claim:

A method for selecting content performed by a media player receiving a plurality of content streams, the method comprising: receiving content selection criteria; receiving a plurality of first items of content associated with the plurality of content streams, wherein each first item of content represents content available through a respective content stream, and wherein each first item of content satisfies the content selection criteria; generating, from the plurality of first items of content associated with the plurality of content streams, a navigation stream that includes the plurality of first items of content associated with the plurality of content streams; providing the plurality of first items of content included in the navigation stream in a temporal sequence to the media player; detecting an input for content that includes a selection of a first item of content; and in response to detecting the input for content, continuously presenting, in a content stream at the media player, a plurality of second items of content carried by the plurality of content streams, wherein each second item of content satisfies the content selection criteria.


Yeah - when a commercial comes on, it switches to your music collection, another vid, or something you set up, then back to the show when the commercial break ends.
 
2014-01-21 02:46:47 PM
antiquitynow.files.wordpress.com


I call it a "wheel"

If my patent gets approved, I'm gonna be soooooo rich.
 
2014-01-21 02:47:03 PM
I'd look at the patent, but I suspect ComSkip has been doing this for years.
 
2014-01-21 02:47:05 PM
THis technology has been around for about 15 years
 
2014-01-21 02:47:54 PM
So is it a shuffle through TV, iTunes and radio?
 
2014-01-21 02:48:13 PM
Fark the companies. Adapt or die.
 
2014-01-21 02:48:17 PM
This shiat again?

Apple's patenting things that already exist? Isn't that their MO?
 
2014-01-21 02:49:03 PM

hammer85: Before people just assume a headline of the article or fark is what was actually patented, the actual claim:


Sounds way more general than skipping ads and in fact sounds more like patenting "more stuff like this"-style playlists that many internet radio streams already use.
 
2014-01-21 02:51:39 PM
Apple is definitely good at patenting existing technology.
 
2014-01-21 02:53:19 PM

elvisaintdead: where's my no monthly fee dvr?


http://www.mythtv.org/

Some assembly required.
=Smidge=
 
2014-01-21 02:54:59 PM

divx88: Apple is definitely good at patenting existing technology.


Helps when you have a Richie Rich vault of cash to shovel at lawyers.
 
2014-01-21 02:56:00 PM
How long is the average commercial break? I can see why this would appeal to the attention deficit set.
 
2014-01-21 02:56:43 PM
Subby should invest in reading lessons:

While Apple has patented similar technology in the past, such as an invention that allows users to automatically skip commercials,
 
2014-01-21 02:58:28 PM
This seems to be like trying to patent all of the legos if you arrange some legos in a unique pattern.
 
2014-01-21 03:00:17 PM
 Apple on Tuesday was awarded a patent for a system that analyzes on-board, broadcast or streamed audio and visual media content to create a custom tailored playlist that can switch between sources to deliver an optimal user experience.

It's not just a custom playlist. And it's not just a tailored playlist.

It's a custom tailored playlist!
 
2014-01-21 03:00:23 PM
Also, I don't need Apple switching stations for me, just like I don't need Amazon "proactively" shipping me shiat.
 
2014-01-21 03:12:51 PM

hammer85: Before people just assume a headline of the article or fark is what was actually patented, the actual claim:

A method for selecting content performed by a media player receiving a plurality of content streams, the method comprising: receiving content selection criteria; receiving a plurality of first items of content associated with the plurality of content streams, wherein each first item of content represents content available through a respective content stream, and wherein each first item of content satisfies the content selection criteria; generating, from the plurality of first items of content associated with the plurality of content streams, a navigation stream that includes the plurality of first items of content associated with the plurality of content streams; providing the plurality of first items of content included in the navigation stream in a temporal sequence to the media player; detecting an input for content that includes a selection of a first item of content; and in response to detecting the input for content, continuously presenting, in a content stream at the media player, a plurality of second items of content carried by the plurality of content streams, wherein each second item of content satisfies the content selection criteria.


Hey, it's an opportunity for the daily 'bash Apple' thread, so TFA is just incidental.
 
2014-01-21 03:13:02 PM
as we continue to compile a list of things that already did this, why don't we make ourselves useful and find something:
1) that was invented before july 10 2008
2) that demonstrates every element of the method claim Hammer85 presented

otherwise we may as well talk about cats or something
 
2014-01-21 03:15:47 PM
Dear Apple:

I know we haven't been friendly for a long time. I bought an original iPod, and it was awesome, but then you just started attracting the wrong crowd and it made me really uncomfortable. We stopped hanging out. I just wanted you to know that if you manage to kick the cable companies in the balls, we can be friends again. We don't always see eye-to-eye, but you'd be doing a good thing.
 
2014-01-21 03:41:38 PM
Hey, that's a good idea.  I'm going to patent it too since that's allowed now.
 
2014-01-21 03:44:09 PM

nmrsnr: S.R. Hadden


Weird. I only saw that movie once, but somehow knew who you were talking about.
 
2014-01-21 03:52:54 PM

Titanius Anglesmith: Weird. I only saw that movie once, but somehow knew who you were talking about.


In the book he makes his fortune by inventing a chip that skips TV commercials.
 
2014-01-21 04:02:56 PM
They basically patented changing the channel.
 
2014-01-21 04:03:28 PM

nmrsnr: Titanius Anglesmith: Weird. I only saw that movie once, but somehow knew who you were talking about.

In the book he makes his fortune by inventing a chip that skips TV commercials.


That explains the why, mucho thanks. Not sure how I still knew the dudes name and where I heard it before.

/the mind, how does it work?
 
2014-01-21 04:04:25 PM

hammer85: Before people just assume a headline of the article or fark is what was actually patented, the actual claim:

A method for selecting content performed by a media player receiving a plurality of content streams, the method comprising: receiving content selection criteria; receiving a plurality of first items of content associated with the plurality of content streams, wherein each first item of content represents content available through a respective content stream, and wherein each first item of content satisfies the content selection criteria; generating, from the plurality of first items of content associated with the plurality of content streams, a navigation stream that includes the plurality of first items of content associated with the plurality of content streams; providing the plurality of first items of content included in the navigation stream in a temporal sequence to the media player; detecting an input for content that includes a selection of a first item of content; and in response to detecting the input for content, continuously presenting, in a content stream at the media player, a plurality of second items of content carried by the plurality of content streams, wherein each second item of content satisfies the content selection criteria.


Like I said, they patented changing the channel.

No matter, this will hold up in an East Texas courtroom where nothing is obvious.
 
2014-01-21 04:13:03 PM
They jam enough ads in the shows anyway so why get mad.
/Looks back at Burn notice
 
2014-01-21 04:13:07 PM
This sounds like something I don't want or need but could probably be a good basis for a lawsuit one day.
 
2014-01-21 04:14:26 PM
If we can skip them, how are we going to see their lame-ass, preachy, cult-of-apple commercials?
They made me want to barf during the AFC Championship game.
 
2014-01-21 04:30:16 PM
Smidge204:
Some

Understatement of the century.
 
2014-01-21 04:50:50 PM

fluffy2097: Apple patented TiVo?

When the fark did they invent a time machine, and why haven't they patented that?


Samsung is suing them. It's going to be a tough case because the judge is King Solomon.
 
2014-01-21 04:51:11 PM
Apple patents technology that allows TV viewers to skip commercials

Simple enough to do.  Just scan ahead until the volume increases by 50%.  Skip until it goes back to normal.
 
2014-01-21 05:12:16 PM

fluffy2097: Apple patented TiVo?

When the fark did they invent a time machine, and why haven't they patented that?


Borrowed from Obama.
 
2014-01-21 05:15:44 PM

Marcus Aurelius: hammer85: Before people just assume a headline of the article or fark is what was actually patented, the actual claim:

A method for selecting content performed by a media player receiving a plurality of content streams, the method comprising: receiving content selection criteria; receiving a plurality of first items of content associated with the plurality of content streams, wherein each first item of content represents content available through a respective content stream, and wherein each first item of content satisfies the content selection criteria; generating, from the plurality of first items of content associated with the plurality of content streams, a navigation stream that includes the plurality of first items of content associated with the plurality of content streams; providing the plurality of first items of content included in the navigation stream in a temporal sequence to the media player; detecting an input for content that includes a selection of a first item of content; and in response to detecting the input for content, continuously presenting, in a content stream at the media player, a plurality of second items of content carried by the plurality of content streams, wherein each second item of content satisfies the content selection criteria.

Like I said, they patented changing the channel.

No matter, this will hold up in an East Texas courtroom where nothing is obvious.


Honestly, what about that claim is not obvious. See, you have two groups of things. And when I don't like one group of things, I switch to the other group of things.

/Also, the weasel words in that claim defy counting. Temporal sequence. Plurality. Continuously presented. Content selection criteria.
 
2014-01-21 05:44:25 PM

taxandspend: Remember when Subway opened at Greendale? Remember when Phil Dunphy really wanted an iPad? Remember when Jack Donaghy and Elisa Pedrera bonded over McDonald's McFlurries?

Hope you like more episodes like that.


origin.arstechnica.com
"It's a wonderful restaurant!"


They need to be more obvious about their product placement. Hang a lantern on it. Use it for comedic effect.
Like in Fibber McGee and Molly when Waxy, the Johnson Wax spokesman, all but became a character.
 
2014-01-21 06:43:58 PM

Mael99: If we can skip them, how are we going to see their lame-ass, preachy, cult-of-apple commercials?
They made me want to barf during the AFC Championship game.


And that's why I always hit the mute button when the commercials come on during football games (assuming that there isn't another game to switch to).  Because of commercials like the one you mentioned, and that commercial from a couple years back with the WASP family singing an a capella version of 'Crazy Train' to advertise goddamn mini-vans.
 
2014-01-21 06:58:01 PM
people still watch live TV? That's quaint.
 
2014-01-21 07:08:02 PM

Kinek: Marcus Aurelius: hammer85: Before people just assume a headline of the article or fark is what was actually patented, the actual claim:

A method for selecting content performed by a media player receiving a plurality of content streams, the method comprising: receiving content selection criteria; receiving a plurality of first items of content associated with the plurality of content streams, wherein each first item of content represents content available through a respective content stream, and wherein each first item of content satisfies the content selection criteria; generating, from the plurality of first items of content associated with the plurality of content streams, a navigation stream that includes the plurality of first items of content associated with the plurality of content streams; providing the plurality of first items of content included in the navigation stream in a temporal sequence to the media player; detecting an input for content that includes a selection of a first item of content; and in response to detecting the input for content, continuously presenting, in a content stream at the media player, a plurality of second items of content carried by the plurality of content streams, wherein each second item of content satisfies the content selection criteria.

Like I said, they patented changing the channel.

No matter, this will hold up in an East Texas courtroom where nothing is obvious.

Honestly, what about that claim is not obvious. See, you have two groups of things. And when I don't like one group of things, I switch to the other group of things.

/Also, the weasel words in that claim defy counting. Temporal sequence. Plurality. Continuously presented. Content selection criteria.


Ironically "defy counting" is a weasel word phrase while none of the ones you listed are. They all have very precise meanings.
 
2014-01-21 07:16:10 PM
This is why ReplayTV was wiped off the face of the Earth while the far-inferior TIVO was given Hollywood support.

/Misses his ReplayTV
 
2014-01-21 07:38:42 PM

ryarger: Kinek: Marcus Aurelius: hammer85: Before people just assume a headline of the article or fark is what was actually patented, the actual claim:

A method for selecting content performed by a media player receiving a plurality of content streams, the method comprising: receiving content selection criteria; receiving a plurality of first items of content associated with the plurality of content streams, wherein each first item of content represents content available through a respective content stream, and wherein each first item of content satisfies the content selection criteria; generating, from the plurality of first items of content associated with the plurality of content streams, a navigation stream that includes the plurality of first items of content associated with the plurality of content streams; providing the plurality of first items of content included in the navigation stream in a temporal sequence to the media player; detecting an input for content that includes a selection of a first item of content; and in response to detecting the input for content, continuously presenting, in a content stream at the media player, a plurality of second items of content carried by the plurality of content streams, wherein each second item of content satisfies the content selection criteria.

Like I said, they patented changing the channel.

No matter, this will hold up in an East Texas courtroom where nothing is obvious.

Honestly, what about that claim is not obvious. See, you have two groups of things. And when I don't like one group of things, I switch to the other group of things.

/Also, the weasel words in that claim defy counting. Temporal sequence. Plurality. Continuously presented. Content selection criteria.

Ironically "defy counting" is a weasel word phrase while none of the ones you listed are. They all have very precise meanings.


"you got served" moment  plus a correct usage of the word "ironically"   I think that's a 3 point play!
 
2014-01-21 10:23:12 PM
Good luck doing anything with that, Apple. You will lose.
 
2014-01-21 11:22:05 PM

EngineerAU: divx88: Apple is definitely good at patenting existing technology.

Helps when you have a Richie Rich vault of cash to shovel at lawyers.


You know that the vault didn't actually contain cash, right?
 
2014-01-22 12:15:05 AM

cptjeff: EngineerAU: divx88: Apple is definitely good at patenting existing technology.

Helps when you have a Richie Rich vault of cash to shovel at lawyers.

You know that the vault didn't actually contain cash, right?


Duh... it was a cartoon. It's not like he was actually expecting it to be a real vault. We will choose not to acknowledge the live action movie adaptation.
 
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