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2014-01-21 01:22:01 PM

nekom: vygramul: Sigh - this is only going to get worse.

Do you mean this incident or this type of thing?  This incident doesn't seem like a mass shooting, or am I missing something?


Frequency.

It just hertz so many people.
 
2014-01-21 01:22:26 PM
Well that's one way to stuff a bunch of turkeys...
 
2014-01-21 01:22:28 PM
Where are the defenders to tell us that this was just a "routine shooting, fewer than 10 killed".
 
2014-01-21 01:22:29 PM
There was a shooting there in '95 when I was a sophomore.  Some kid was selling coke out of Wiley and he shot the RA who caught him.
 
2014-01-21 01:23:02 PM

the money is in the banana stand: Uisce Beatha: One starts to wonder, does this constant headlining of any crime with a gun (except for those poor folks in the inner city - the news doesn't care about them) start turning into a self-generating cycle?  Meaning, does constantly making anything gun-related a headline give the unbalanced ideas on how to get attention?

Yes. Is that really a question? Despite this has crime continued to decline? Yes.


Oh, I know crime, including violent crime, continues to go down - it is pretty well documented, if under-reported.

I just wonder if glorifying certain types of crime through headlines, especially when the crime that occured is not that earth-shattering, is an overall detriment.  Of course, that is a pretty hard-to-quantify effect, I would think
 
2014-01-21 01:23:30 PM
Consider that Purdue has more than 30,000 undergraduates, and many thousands more graduate students, postdocs, faculty, and staff, about 43,000 people total. An institution this large is essentially a small city unto itself.

Crime is going to happen everywhere. What is particularly significant about it happening on a college campus?
 
2014-01-21 01:23:39 PM

Best Princess Celestia: At the engineering school? Sounds like someone didn't pas the weedout classes.


As an alumnus, I'm guessing an engineering student snapped ala VT.
 
2014-01-21 01:23:53 PM

Lenny_da_Hog: Yes! Another 72 hours of non-stop coverage turning the criminal into an international anti-hero!

As an aside, I wonder why these things keep happening. Maybe CNN will tell me.


A purdue chicken plant was doused in tequila shots by an IT student. More news to come.
 
2014-01-21 01:24:22 PM

Uisce Beatha: One starts to wonder, does this constant headlining of any crime with a gun (except for those poor folks in the inner city - the news doesn't care about them) start turning into a self-generating cycle?  Meaning, does constantly making anything gun-related a headline give the unbalanced ideas on how to get attention?


Probably, and probably not just the shooters.  I suspect the cops watch the hoopla (which expands every time) during and after every event, and don't want to be seen as doing less than somebody else, so we end up with bigger and bigger disruptions and more and more control of our movement ceded to 'the authorities' even when it seems very likely the event is over.

i.e.  "shooter in custody", coupled with "remain in place until further notice" and a labor- and time-intensive sweep of a large campus, worried about almost certainly non-existent accomplices.
 
2014-01-21 01:24:34 PM

great_tigers: You know, if we didn't have schools we wouldn't have school shootings.


If we outlaw schools, then only outlaws will have schools?

Oh, man, how cool would that be.
 
2014-01-21 01:24:56 PM
I'm waiting for the day when there's a school shooting that is resolved not by police, but by another crazed gunman that was also planning a mass shooting that day.
 
2014-01-21 01:25:01 PM

TeaEarlGreyHot: Sliding Carp: jconline.com is local paper -- they will be pretty up to date.

Lafayette is useless for news.  Go to Indianapolis sources:
http://www.indystar.com/
http://fox59.com/
http://www.wthr.com/
http://www.theindychannel.com/
http://www.wishtv.com/


JC and Indystar are both Gannet papers and feed from the same sources.
 
2014-01-21 01:25:03 PM

Fubini: Consider that Purdue has more than 30,000 undergraduates, and many thousands more graduate students, postdocs, faculty, and staff, about 43,000 people total. An institution this large is essentially a small city unto itself.

Crime is going to happen everywhere. What is particularly significant about it happening on a college campus?


Hey, pointing that out makes you an apologist for gun crime round these threads.
 
2014-01-21 01:25:18 PM
vygramul:
Frequency.

It just hertz so many people.


Well in that case you're probably right.  Especially as April approaches.  Just something about that month.
 
2014-01-21 01:25:48 PM

GardenWeasel: Best Princess Celestia: At the engineering school? Sounds like someone didn't pas the weedout classes.

As an alumnus, I'm guessing an engineering student snapped ala VT.


Probably true, since it happened in the electrical engineering building. It's a tough major.
 
2014-01-21 01:26:05 PM

Fubini: Consider that Purdue has more than 30,000 undergraduates, and many thousands more graduate students, postdocs, faculty, and staff, about 43,000 people total. An institution this large is essentially a small city unto itself.

Crime is going to happen everywhere. What is particularly significant about it happening on a college campus?


because reasons, that's why you heartless gun lover.
 
2014-01-21 01:26:25 PM

lennavan: This just shows we need more guns.


Or more laws against shooting people.

Since those are obviously the only 2 things we can do, one of them should work, right?
 
2014-01-21 01:27:10 PM
Engeneering students truly are scum of the earth

/liberal arts master race reporting
 
2014-01-21 01:27:15 PM

Grumpy Cat: I feel like shooting tonight.


Urban Terror 4.2 it's free to play.
 
2014-01-21 01:27:28 PM
Someone shot a gun at someone, yawn.

Oh no, in an area with primarily non-poor white people?  TRAGEDY!  HORROR!
 
2014-01-21 01:27:33 PM
Not to seem too oblivious, but what is the deal with chickens here? Did I miss 'let's characterize everything in terms of chickens' day?
 
2014-01-21 01:27:33 PM

Etchy333: I'm waiting for the day when there's a school shooting that is resolved not by police, but by another crazed gunman that was also planning a mass shooting that day.


Would the cycle be complete then?

Or possibly cause a rip in space and time.
 
2014-01-21 01:27:35 PM
Why is it that shootings in no gun zones get the most coverage?
 
2014-01-21 01:27:42 PM

Best Princess Celestia: At the engineering school? Sounds like someone didn't pas the weedout classes.


Field Theory I & II are a real biatch.
 
2014-01-21 01:28:03 PM

Sliding Carp: Uisce Beatha: One starts to wonder, does this constant headlining of any crime with a gun (except for those poor folks in the inner city - the news doesn't care about them) start turning into a self-generating cycle?  Meaning, does constantly making anything gun-related a headline give the unbalanced ideas on how to get attention?

Probably, and probably not just the shooters.  I suspect the cops watch the hoopla (which expands every time) during and after every event, and don't want to be seen as doing less than somebody else, so we end up with bigger and bigger disruptions and more and more control of our movement ceded to 'the authorities' even when it seems very likely the event is over.

i.e.  "shooter in custody", coupled with "remain in place until further notice" and a labor- and time-intensive sweep of a large campus, worried about almost certainly non-existent accomplices.


Fair point, and one I wasn't really thinking about - the inflation of such events could cause negative reactions from non-psychos when in a similar situation in the future, due to the perception of 'disaster' such coverage causes.  Again, though, hard to quantify.
 
2014-01-21 01:28:04 PM
Have the farklibs blamed this on the tea party yet?
 
2014-01-21 01:28:06 PM

GanjSmokr: lennavan: This just shows we need more guns.

Or more laws against shooting people.

Since those are obviously the only 2 things we can do, one of them should work, right?


We already have laws against shooting people.  That's why we need more guns.  The only way to reduce gun crime is more guns.
 
2014-01-21 01:29:03 PM

coeyagi: Why don't we hear about this kind of thing on a regular basis in Europe?

a) We're Americans, therefore exceptional, don't want to hear about Europe
b) It rarely happens in Europe.
c) a + b

Cry, citizenry, this incident will put Obama 2-steps closer on the board game of "Gun Grabber" to your front door.

//that would be a cool board game


Europe tried the oranized approach, and got a lot of theirs out of the way in the 1940's.  They must be getting close to even tough, because that guy in Sweden got 77 people.  Oh, and the Olympics in 72, and the train bombings in Spain, bus bombs in England, lots of bombs in Irelnd......
 
2014-01-21 01:29:13 PM

Rapmaster2000: There was a shooting there in '95 when I was a sophomore.  Some kid was selling coke out of Wiley and he shot the RA who caught him.


Not that it's of any consequence, but it was 1996. I was a freshman living at Cary at the time.
 
2014-01-21 01:29:13 PM
Since it was an engineering student I feel confident in quoting "It's always the quiet ones"
encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com

\You're not sleeping with it, are you Ray?
 
2014-01-21 01:29:22 PM
"A post on the school's TWITTER ACCOUNT says," CNN?  You can't pick up the phone to confirm it before alerting everyone?

i280.photobucket.com

CNN = garbage.
 
2014-01-21 01:29:23 PM

GanjSmokr: lennavan: This just shows we need more guns.

Or more laws against shooting people.

Since those are obviously the only 2 things we can do, one of them should work, right?


I think it's time to start thinking outside of the box.  Is there a way that tax cuts and deregulation could solve this?
 
2014-01-21 01:29:30 PM

lennavan: This just shows we need more guns.


Tell us your thoughts on the needless deaths from pools. Think of the children.
 
2014-01-21 01:29:43 PM
So about one school shooting a week seems to be becoming the norm.
 
2014-01-21 01:29:49 PM

Somacandra: Not to seem too oblivious, but what is the deal with chickens here? Did I miss 'let's characterize everything in terms of chickens' day?


The article is about Purdue.

lh6.googleusercontent.com
 
2014-01-21 01:29:51 PM

coeyagi: Why don't we hear about this kind of thing on a regular basis in Europe?

a) We're Americans, therefore exceptional, don't want to hear about Europe
b) It rarely happens in Europe.
c) a + b

Cry, citizenry, this incident will put Obama 2-steps closer on the board game of "Gun Grabber" to your front door.

//that would be a cool board game


Why don't we hear about non-gun violence on college campuses, either in Europe or America?

Campuses are not automatically safe places. Most colleges report numbers on things like Rape, Robbery, Assault & Battery, Burglary, etc.
 
2014-01-21 01:30:23 PM

MyRandomName: Have the farklibs blamed this on the tea party yet?


Don't be silly. Teabaggers couldn't get into Purdue.
 
2014-01-21 01:30:27 PM
Did Ryan Newman finally snap?
 
2014-01-21 01:31:07 PM

navyjeff: GardenWeasel: Best Princess Celestia: At the engineering school? Sounds like someone didn't pas the weedout classes.

As an alumnus, I'm guessing an engineering student snapped ala VT.

Probably true, since it happened in the electrical engineering building. It's a tough major.


As an engineer, if I had a dollar for every time I wanted to put a few rounds into a machine that wouldn't behave...
 
2014-01-21 01:31:56 PM

Fubini: coeyagi: Why don't we hear about this kind of thing on a regular basis in Europe?

a) We're Americans, therefore exceptional, don't want to hear about Europe
b) It rarely happens in Europe.
c) a + b

Cry, citizenry, this incident will put Obama 2-steps closer on the board game of "Gun Grabber" to your front door.

//that would be a cool board game

Why don't we hear about non-gun violence on college campuses, either in Europe or America?

Campuses are not automatically safe places. Most colleges report numbers on things like Rape, Robbery, Assault & Battery, Burglary, etc.


I know at my school (Depaul University) they send out emails when an "incident" happens on or near campus. Every week it seems people are assaulted, mugged etc
 
2014-01-21 01:32:23 PM
I have two sons on campus... one was in the EE bldg... he says someone pulled the fire alarm or something in the EE bldg... he and everyone else ran out...  Police arrived and locked down the bldg... school issued a 'shelter in place'... there are rumors of multiple shooters and multiple people shot.

Other son is in the building next door... computing center... he just knows there are cops outside.... and that his class in EE won't be meeting today.
 
2014-01-21 01:32:40 PM
Just got a text from my brother. My nephew is in the adjacent building & under lockdown. (as of <5 minutes ago.)
 
2014-01-21 01:32:48 PM
CNN will talk to the spokeswoman after this break.

You can tell it's serious.
 
2014-01-21 01:33:23 PM

Ed_Severson: Rapmaster2000: There was a shooting there in '95 when I was a sophomore.  Some kid was selling coke out of Wiley and he shot the RA who caught him.

Not that it's of any consequence, but it was 1996. I was a freshman living at Cary at the time.


Huh.  Guess I was a junior.
 
2014-01-21 01:33:25 PM

forteblast: Find the guy and boil 'er up


Purdue is the "Boilermakers," right? I get that.  But everyone just sorta knows a brand of store chicken is called "Perdue?" Obviously I'm not getting the core concept here.
 
2014-01-21 01:33:28 PM

MyRandomName: lennavan: This just shows we need more guns.

Tell us your thoughts on the needless deaths from pools. Think of the children.


You need more defection so you can retain your gun fetish.
 
2014-01-21 01:33:42 PM

Fubini: coeyagi: Why don't we hear about this kind of thing on a regular basis in Europe?

a) We're Americans, therefore exceptional, don't want to hear about Europe
b) It rarely happens in Europe.
c) a + b

Cry, citizenry, this incident will put Obama 2-steps closer on the board game of "Gun Grabber" to your front door.

//that would be a cool board game

Why don't we hear about non-gun violence on college campuses, either in Europe or America?

Campuses are not automatically safe places. Most colleges report numbers on things like Rape, Robbery, Assault & Battery, Burglary, etc.


And lots of time, those numbers are much lower than actual.  Wouldn't want The college you're dean of to loom like an alcohol-fueled rapefest, would you?
 
2014-01-21 01:33:46 PM
Some people get a little shooty after drinking too many boilermakers.
 
2014-01-21 01:33:50 PM

Dr Jack Badofsky: coeyagi: Why don't we hear about this kind of thing on a regular basis in Europe?

a) We're Americans, therefore exceptional, don't want to hear about Europe
b) It rarely happens in Europe.
c) a + b

Cry, citizenry, this incident will put Obama 2-steps closer on the board game of "Gun Grabber" to your front door.

//that would be a cool board game

Europe tried the oranized approach, and got a lot of theirs out of the way in the 1940's.  They must be getting close to even tough, because that guy in Sweden got 77 people.  Oh, and the Olympics in 72, and the train bombings in Spain, bus bombs in England, lots of bombs in Irelnd......


You serious?  Let me um, you know, laugh even harder.
 
2014-01-21 01:33:58 PM

coeyagi: Why don't we hear about this kind of thing on a regular basis in Europe?


Why didn't we hear about this stuff anywhere 50 years ago?
 
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