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2014-01-21 03:33:20 PM
What I can't figure out is why frats think they have to have stupid, frequently racist themes for their parties. You're at Arizona State, idiots. Put up fliers that say "Horny frat boys & free booze" and there will be a line of girls out the door.
 
2014-01-21 03:34:46 PM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: But it is ok to get shiatty drunk, eat corn beef and cabbage on St. Patrick's day and no one says a damn thing.

Pretty farking hypocritical if you ask me.

It is OK to make fun of the Irish, the Jews, cops, Lawyers, greasy WOP's and Asians but if you make fun of black people you are a racist.


You sound racist.
 
2014-01-21 03:34:48 PM
Wanna fark up your organization?

www.embracediversity.net

Where it's not how good you are, it's how oppressed your ancestors were!
 
2014-01-21 03:35:52 PM

That Guy Jeff: Young college douchbags throw questionable and offensive parties. News at 9, followed by a new study that answers the question "is water wet?"

Not on college grounds, not a college event, not the college's problem. You don't like it... write a letter to the kids involved.


I bet they put Neidemayer on it.  He's a sneaky little shiat.
 
2014-01-21 03:37:01 PM

mbillips: What I can't figure out is why frats think they have to have stupid, frequently racist themes for their parties. You're at Arizona State, idiots. Put up fliers that say "Horny frat boys & free booze" and there will be a line of girls out the door.


Those parties can get boring. Girls like to spice it up. My favorite theme, and it was legendary:

Parochial School night.

That was the sluttiest party EVER.
 
2014-01-21 03:38:25 PM
This was obviously 'a' and not 'er'.

They should be grateful for the respect.
 
2014-01-21 03:38:39 PM

GGracie: "I want to go home, eat some chocolate and watch my stories"


Awesome :)
 
2014-01-21 03:38:39 PM
The university also said the ASU chapter was already on social probation and not allowed to have parties, noting that last weekend's party was not on campus and not a university sanctioned event .

Oh noes, NOW they will be on DOUBLE SECRET PROBABTION.  Knowing the demographics of Arizona I wonder how many of these TKE's were Hispanic?  "Just sayin"
 
2014-01-21 03:39:30 PM

Publikwerks: Begoggle: Solid State Vittles: What I don't get, and I'm sure one of you sociology experts can help me, how is it that no one associated with this doesn't step in and say "guys, maybe this isn't such a great idea, especially with the cameras and Facebook and all."

Douchebags tend to hang out with other douchebags.
Non-douchebags tend to not hang out with douchebags.

Pretty much this. Not to say all frats are full of d-bags. Mine had some, but we made sure to even it out with stand up guys, so it balanced out.


My point exactly.  Wouldn't someone, anyone, just ONE person, in your fraternity stepped in and said, uh, let's not?
 
2014-01-21 03:40:33 PM
<i>"This isn't appropriate at all and you really have no business dressing like this on a day that's sort of  revered for African-Americans..."</i>

One wonders where the 'scale of reverence' is posted from which decisions to 'be disrespectin' or not can be made. Maybe they're knotheads with no common sense or maybe they were intentionally rude. In either case, free speech is free speech.
 
2014-01-21 03:40:42 PM

Mr.Poops: A friend of mine celebrates this day with a bucket of KFC, lots of bong hits and watches New Jack City... He's a good guy, racist, but a good guy... most of the time.


I bet all his black friend says that too
 
2014-01-21 03:43:12 PM

Solid State Vittles: Publikwerks: Begoggle: Solid State Vittles: What I don't get, and I'm sure one of you sociology experts can help me, how is it that no one associated with this doesn't step in and say "guys, maybe this isn't such a great idea, especially with the cameras and Facebook and all."

Douchebags tend to hang out with other douchebags.
Non-douchebags tend to not hang out with douchebags.

Pretty much this. Not to say all frats are full of d-bags. Mine had some, but we made sure to even it out with stand up guys, so it balanced out.

My point exactly.  Wouldn't someone, anyone, just ONE person, in your fraternity stepped in and said, uh, let's not?


Mine, yes. Hell, we had quite a few black brothers who would have been real pissed about that. But that's the point. We had black brothers because we were, for the most part, good guys. We went after good guys because we weren't assholes.  Hell, the fact you have a guy, posting here on fark about it, shows it was a completely typical fraternity.
 
2014-01-21 03:46:21 PM
All2morrowsparTs


Random Anonymous Blackmail: But it is ok to get shiatty drunk, eat corn beef and cabbage on St. Patrick's day and no one says a damn thing.

Pretty farking hypocritical if you ask me.

It is OK to make fun of the Irish, the Jews, cops, Lawyers, greasy WOP's and Asians but if you make fun of black people you are a racist.

You sound racist.


That a pretty typical response from around here.

And everyday of your waking life you have never said a derogatory thing about a person race, color, creed, sexual orientation or culture and I will proceed to call you a liar.
 
2014-01-21 03:46:56 PM

thisisyourbrainonFark: Freshman 15, apparently.


The freshman 15 aint nothing compared to the postgrad 40.
 
2014-01-21 03:47:13 PM
Not necessarily defending these frat guys.  Odds are, some are racist.  But there's a difference between stereotyping and racism.  Every group is stereotyped.  Every group's stereotype is negative.  And every group's stereotypes are laughed at.  White (honkey, square), Christian (stupid about science, etc.) Muslim (hates women, hates freedom, loves bombs) Irish (drunk), English (squares, bad teeth, obsessed with queens)...  Laughing at a stereotype is not racist.  Heck, most cultural groups aren't even separated based on race.  Frustrating to live in a country where laughing at differences is automatically condemned as racism based on someone's oversensitivity/desire to be offended.
 
2014-01-21 03:49:06 PM
Question for Farkers, do Black fraternities have "cracka" parties?  If so I would enjoy laughing at their stereotypes.
 
2014-01-21 03:52:10 PM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: It is OK to make fun of the Irish, the Jews, cops, Lawyers, greasy WOP's and Asians but if you make fun of black people you are a racist.


I'm 1/16 Cop, and I'm sick and tired of people having a free pass to make fun of my heritage.
 
2014-01-21 03:53:14 PM

TheStag: Not necessarily defending these frat guys.  Odds are, some are racist.  But there's a difference between stereotyping and racism.  Every group is stereotyped.  Every group's stereotype is negative.  And every group's stereotypes are laughed at.  White (honkey, square), Christian (stupid about science, etc.) Muslim (hates women, hates freedom, loves bombs) Irish (drunk), English (squares, bad teeth, obsessed with queens)...  Laughing at a stereotype is not racist.  Heck, most cultural groups aren't even separated based on race.  Frustrating to live in a country where laughing at differences is automatically condemned as racism based on someone's oversensitivity/desire to be offended.

You forgot the Ainu, Hate them with a passion.
 
2014-01-21 03:54:00 PM

I Like Shiny Things: This was obviously 'a' and not 'er'.


images4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-01-21 03:54:20 PM

Beeblebrox: "If you can't go greek, go TKE.  If you can't go TKE, go home."  was what they used to say in the '80s at my school.  Seems things haven't changed much.


Full disclosure: I was a Teke in the 1980s. It was a saying we all knew well, and some of us wore it with pride.

Very few of us were actual frat-boy douchebags, and we didn't feel much affinity with the "greek system" as a whole (except on "social" nights with sororities, but I digress).

It was socialized socializing, and nothing more. On any given Saturday night, 80 guys chipping in $20 each can have a much better time than one guy with a $20 bill.
 
2014-01-21 03:55:49 PM
BigNumber12


Random Anonymous Blackmail: It is OK to make fun of the Irish, the Jews, cops, Lawyers, greasy WOP's and Asians but if you make fun of black people you are a racist.

I'm 1/16 Cop, and I'm sick and tired of people having a free pass to make fun of my heritage.


Well if they would stop beating innocent people and eating doughnuts they would get a break.

I used cops and Lawyers because they seem to be Farks biggest hate machine targets. I avoided the car salesman since the 80's and 90' beat that to death.
 
2014-01-21 03:55:52 PM

BigNumber12: Random Anonymous Blackmail: It is OK to make fun of the Irish, the Jews, cops, Lawyers, greasy WOP's and Asians but if you make fun of black people you are a racist.

I'm 1/16 Cop, and I'm sick and tired of people having a free pass to make fun of my heritage.


Hey im 1/32 Lawyer once removed and you just don't know the hatred they have for my peoples, out of the way bub i'm to the front of the line!
 
2014-01-21 03:56:11 PM
Plus ça change ...
 
2014-01-21 03:59:02 PM

ManateeGag: Frat Boy act like assholes.  Film at 11!


One of my coworkers is a frat boy and yesterday he was kind enough to drive our drunk asses home after we spent four hours in the bar after work. We also talked him in to taking another coworker to a frat party if he brings his shot ski.
I'm guessing he's the exception to the frat/douche rule.
 
2014-01-21 04:49:48 PM

Billy Liar: Well, Arizona's still kind of new at acknowledging MLK Day.  Or civil rights, for that matter.


Liberal buckshot at its finest. Arizona didn't want another paid holiday and they get called racist. God forbid the public employees negotiate a change in paid holidays to keep total number of holidays the same. But leave it to liberals to find it racist to not want to give public workers more benefits.
 
2014-01-21 04:59:05 PM
When's native american day? I need a reason for fake outrage! Bring on the moronic white people with headresses!

Oh wait... There is no native american day? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!

Oh well, at least my people had the good sense to not sell each other into slavery.
 
2014-01-21 04:59:15 PM
if you say the college students are dressed like idiots
what are you saying about other people that dress that way

if a =b and b=c then a=c
 
2014-01-21 04:59:41 PM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: But it is ok to get shiatty drunk, eat corn beef and cabbage on St. Patrick's day and no one says a damn thing.

Pretty farking hypocritical if you ask me.

It is OK to make fun of the Irish, the Jews, cops, Lawyers, greasy WOP's and Asians but if you make fun of black people you are a racist.


But but but everyone was so meeeeeeeean to da negros coloreds blacks African Americans "People of Color (which is really code for how racist non-whites are towards albinos but they cover it by saying it's all whites who aren't included)"!!!!11.

Serious, fark that noise. If it was a black frat, no one would've said anything to them and it wouldn't be a story. But OMGSSSSS white people did it!!!!111!!!11 WAAAAAAAACISM!!!!1111 Stupid kids act like stupid kids, but now that there's Hypertolerance, they'll probably get kicked out of school.
 
2014-01-21 05:00:56 PM

Publikwerks: Gentlemen, I'll be brief. The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with our female party guests - we did.  But you can't hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, Fark - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!


Cut the horseshiat, son. I've got their disciplinary files right here. Who dropped a whole truckload of fizzies into the varsity swim meet? Who delivered the medical school cadavers to the alumni dinner? Every Halloween, the trees are filled with underwear. Every spring, the toilets explode.
 
2014-01-21 05:01:26 PM
...meanwhile in Seattle

i.imgur.com
 
2014-01-21 05:45:36 PM

SirEattonHogg: Reminds me of my old college days at the Beta house when we were all throwing awesome parties and getting top shelf pussy.  Being in a frat fosters deep brotherhood ties and friends for life. It's really something you losers would know nothing about - especially getting top shelf pussy.


Reality: you're the guy who passed out at a party and woke up with Sharpie-drawn words and images all over his body.
 
2014-01-21 05:52:06 PM

ManateeGag: OH, and they're farking TeKEs, big shock there!


If you can't go Greek, go TeKE.
 
2014-01-21 06:17:31 PM
 

berylman: I am convinced that love is the most durable power in the world. It is not an expression of impractical idealism, but of practical realism. Far from being the pious injunction of a Utopian dreamer, love is an absolute necessity for the survival of our civilization. To return hate for hate does nothing but intensify the existence of evil in the universe. Someone must have sense enough and religion enough to cut off the chain of hate and evil, and this can only be done through love.


 LRH
 The Origin of Specious
 
2014-01-21 06:42:57 PM
I was a TKE in college (small liberal arts school that was 65% greek so 2 or 3 of the houses weren't all full of bros.)  Pretty much every other TKE chapter in the state of were just downright scary.  Pretty sure University of Michigan's chapter was on permaban when I was in college, and MSU's chapter got banned while I was in school.
 
2014-01-21 06:45:26 PM
First, why does it seem that 75% of the embarrassing actions by fraternities across this country are committed by a TKE, SAE, or PIKE chapter?  (Racist parties, dead bodies, anal chugging!)  You are an embarrassment to the entire greek community that has grown tired of attempting to point out that not every fraternity is as horrible as you.  And, yes, all the other fraternities and sororities think you are horrible when you do these things!

Second, if you lack the intellect to come up with a non-offensive theme party, let me give you some free advise.  Call your next party a "beer party".  Trust me, you cannot go wrong. It tells all perspective attendees that there is going to be beer there.  Free beer guarantees that plenty of women will attend. Given you are college students you are expected to drink beer at a party, so chances of getting kicked off campus are reduced by almost 100%.

Third, if you absolutely have to plan an offensive themed party, than please: (A) Promote it by word of mouth only.  No email, no FaceBook page, no posters, or anything the can be used to destroy plausible denyability, AND (B) Confiscate all cameras and phone cameras upon entry.

Finally, if you ignore all of the rest of my free advise, when you get caught doing something really horrible, (example: offensive parties, dead bodies, anal chugging - yeah, I am talking about you TKE, SAE, PIKE) please, WHAT EVER YOU DO, don't attempt to defending your actions by claiming that you preform a couple of hours of community service each year.  Seriously, that is pretty lame.
 
2014-01-21 06:47:22 PM
Attention White People! It is not OK to represent Black People, unless you are actually Black. It might be OK if your baby daddy is Black. Otherwise, don't attempt to be Black, unless of course you are buying Air Jordons or Beats.
 
2014-01-21 06:49:37 PM

StrandedInAZ: Stay classy, ASU.

/U of A grad


BEAR DOWN!

/same here
 
2014-01-21 07:53:37 PM

ScaryBottles: Man having worked at a pr0n shop the phrase "going greek" just doesn't really mean the same thing to me as it does to other people anymore.


I never worked in a porn store, but yeah, the phrases "Greek life," "Going Greek," or "Greek system" all seem to be a not-so-subtle code for "Under my bed you will find dust, an empty pizza box, a container of astroglide, and a rubber fist." The more sincere one of those guys in a Titleist hat and plaid shorts tries to be about his love of all things Greek, the more I snicker inside.
 
2014-01-21 08:42:13 PM

Beeblebrox: "If you can't go greek, go TKE.  If you can't go TKE, go home."  was what they used to say in the '80s at my school.  Seems things haven't changed much.


They were still saying it in the early 2000s when i was in school.

Had a tke roommate. God he was weird.
 
2014-01-21 09:03:03 PM
Horrible!  They should have more appropriately showed up with stolen flat screen TVs.
 
2014-01-21 09:29:34 PM
www.anthonyjosephevans.com

Sorry so late.  That Weeners has been cracking me up all day!
 
2014-01-21 09:34:41 PM

SirEattonHogg: Reminds me of my old college days at the Beta house when we were all throwing awesome parties and getting top shelf pussy.  Being in a frat fosters deep brotherhood ties and friends for life. It's really something you losers would know nothing about - especially getting top shelf pussy.



You had me cracking up so hard at lunch with this!  I walked back to my office, stopped laughing, then got back to work.  On the bus home, I started thinking about "TSP" and tried to hold back my laughter so much, my tummy hurt and tears came out of my eyes!!!  The people on the bus probably thought I was high or something.

The more I thought those words "Top Shelf Pussy" to myself, the harder I'd laugh.  I'd come up with other uses for it such as in conversation:

"Oh dude, how was that pussy you had last night?"
"Top shelf man, top... shelf."

or...

OPENING UP FOR STEEL PANTHER TONIGHT:
TOP SHELF PUSSY!

or of course Spottswoode from Team America which I posted above.

Thanks so much for making me laugh all day!  Now I have a date tomorrow night and if I get lucky, I'll be really judging hard to see if she qualifies as "Top Shelf".  I'll let you all know.  :)
 
2014-01-21 10:13:52 PM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: But it is ok to get shiatty drunk, eat corn beef and cabbage on St. Patrick's day and no one says a damn thing.

Pretty farking hypocritical if you ask me.

It is OK to make fun of the Irish, the Jews, cops, Lawyers, greasy WOP's and Asians but if you make fun of black people you are a racist.


Since when are cops and lawyers "races"?
 
2014-01-21 11:10:28 PM
anthonixThanks so much for making me laugh all day!  Now I have a date tomorrow night and if I get lucky, I'll be really judging hard to see if she qualifies as "Top Shelf".  I'll let you all know.  :)


Hope you score some TSP, bro.  Good luck.
 
2014-01-22 12:27:42 AM

JeffreyScott: First, why does it seem that 75% of the embarrassing actions by fraternities across this country are committed by a TKE, SAE, or PIKE chapter?  (Racist parties, dead bodies, anal chugging!)  You are an embarrassment to the entire greek community that has grown tired of attempting to point out that not every fraternity is as horrible as you.  And, yes, all the other fraternities and sororities think you are horrible when you do these things!

Second, if you lack the intellect to come up with a non-offensive theme party, let me give you some free advise.  Call your next party a "beer party".  Trust me, you cannot go wrong. It tells all perspective attendees that there is going to be beer there.  Free beer guarantees that plenty of women will attend. Given you are college students you are expected to drink beer at a party, so chances of getting kicked off campus are reduced by almost 100%.

Third, if you absolutely have to plan an offensive themed party, than please: (A) Promote it by word of mouth only.  No email, no FaceBook page, no posters, or anything the can be used to destroy plausible denyability, AND (B) Confiscate all cameras and phone cameras upon entry.

Finally, if you ignore all of the rest of my free advise, when you get caught doing something really horrible, (example: offensive parties, dead bodies, anal chugging - yeah, I am talking about you TKE, SAE, PIKE) please, WHAT EVER YOU DO, don't attempt to defending your actions by claiming that you preform a couple of hours of community service each year.  Seriously, that is pretty lame.


What time do they start serving the split pea soup at the retirement community where you live? I'm feeling hungry around 4pm so I ask for it to be served 15 minutes early. Helps keep me regular.
 
2014-01-22 12:28:47 AM

Halstread: Question for Farkers, do Black fraternities have "cracka" parties?  If so I would enjoy laughing at their stereotypes.


I'm in a black fraternity, and no, we didn't have parties like that when I was an undergrad. Don't get me wrong...we had our fair share of assholes too. It just never occurred to us to host a theme party that made fun of anybody.

The kind of theme parties we had were pajama parties (which was really just an excuse to get girls to come dressed in lingerie) and old school parties (i.e. 70's, or 80's). Pretty harmless stuff, but still fun as hell.
 
2014-01-22 02:21:03 AM
How dare they! You would never see black folks doing such a thing!

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Seriously though, holding a party where you pretend to be a different race is just plain stupid. OF COURSE some people are going to take offense.
 
2014-01-22 02:21:19 AM
marc.merlins.org

man, you guys suck at this... 147 comments and I'm the first?!? Wow, just wow.
 
2014-01-22 05:43:13 AM

mbillips: Random Anonymous Blackmail: But it is ok to get shiatty drunk, eat corn beef and cabbage on St. Patrick's day and no one says a damn thing.

Pretty farking hypocritical if you ask me.

It is OK to make fun of the Irish, the Jews, cops, Lawyers, greasy WOP's and Asians but if you make fun of black people you are a racist.

1/10. When non-Irish people start running around New York hitting people with shillelaghs and conducting mock lynchings of black people on St. Patrick's Day, then you're getting close to equivalence.


The waters are muddy on both sides of the argument. Euro-Americans have a long tradition of not accepting anything different as a human being - red, yellow, black were all shiat upon, but even those groups couldn't stand the Irish, who were often considered as low (or lower than blacks). Google will give no shortage or returns for lynchings and mistreat ment of the Irish, Asians, and just about any group, race or religion if you look thru history. What makes sure hate will always be there is that people always hold onto the hate, even if for something that did not happen to them, or from anyone they know, or even in their lifetime. Until that changes, there will always be fear of anything different, and always be racism.

Can't wait until the first aliens show up on our planet - you thought things were bad already....

/Irish and British lineage myself
//finds racism doesn't discriminate - every race seems to hate/fear every other race pretty much in equal measure.
///of course, some will find these remarks to be racist - which is a circular argument.
 
2014-01-22 11:46:13 AM
Dainty fruity watermelon cups and Basketball jerseys are racist? I learn some thing new every day.
 
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