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(Cleveland Plain Dealer)   Cleveland held hostage, Day 23: Broncos offensive coordinator Adam Gase says he's not interested in the Browns job. Instantly becomes frontrunner for Browns job in 2015   (cleveland.com ) divider line
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2014-01-21 03:37:21 PM  
Browns fans - answering the question: who does this guy laugh at?

i.imgur.com
 
2014-01-21 03:52:42 PM  
I love that people are calling Rod Chudzinski, and taking his opinion to heart.

Cleveland's going to end up with Wade Phillips.
 
2014-01-21 03:57:36 PM  
Not sure I'd be looking at the Broncos O-coordinator for head coach anyway.  Manning seems to audible out of most of his calls at the line.  I'd wait and see what this guy can do without Manning as QB.  If Peyton is smart, and if the Broncos win the Super Bowl, he should retire.  Teams will figure out how to get to him next year, if the Seahawks don't figure it out in a couple weeks.
 
2014-01-21 03:57:59 PM  
I don't know that much about the Browns. What's the deal? Bad ownership?
 
2014-01-21 04:01:00 PM  

Gonz: I love that people are calling Rod Chudzinski, and taking his opinion to heart.

Cleveland's going to end up with Wade Phillips.


You know, grabbing Wade and then begging Norv or Kubiak to run his offense wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.  What about Schwartz or Leslie Fraizer for defensive coordinator?   It would be like a Voltron of 2013's fired coaches.
 
2014-01-21 04:03:34 PM  
You know, grabbing Wade and then begging Norv or Kubiak to run his offense wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.

Norv is already signed with the Vikings, so he's not an option.
 
2014-01-21 04:04:18 PM  
I don't see why you wouldn't want that head coaching job. They have a good defense and an offense that is set to be a powerhouse and they have 2 first round picks. If they gave me input on who to draft, I would jump at the job.
 
2014-01-21 04:05:44 PM  

Orgasmatron138: I don't know that much about the Browns. What's the deal? Bad ownership?



Bad ownership, bad coaching, bad drafts, and bad luck.
 
2014-01-21 04:06:07 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: Gonz: I love that people are calling Rod Chudzinski, and taking his opinion to heart.

Cleveland's going to end up with Wade Phillips.

You know, grabbing Wade and then begging Norv or Kubiak to run his offense wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.  What about Schwartz or Leslie Fraizer for defensive coordinator?   It would be like a Voltron of 2013's fired coaches.


Leslie is already down in Tampa.
 
2014-01-21 04:06:25 PM  

Orgasmatron138: I don't know that much about the Browns. What's the deal? Bad ownership?


Well, they just fired their last coach after one season despite the fact that they had no QB and traded away their starting RB for a draft pick.

It's an awful job.
 
2014-01-21 04:06:40 PM  
So they've sacrificed credibility with the fans, credibility with the league at large, popularity with the players (which may make re-signing pro-bowlers Alex Mack and TJ Ward much more difficult) and millions of dollars. It's now clear that they didn't really have a coach in mind when they did this. So at least one of two things must be true:

1) Chudzinski was so terrible as a head coach in ways that weren't able to be perceived by the press at large, and was perhaps immensely difficult to work with. He was so bad, that the front office is convinced that damn near anyone can do better.

2) The Cleveland front office is completely insane, in ways that make the Eric Mangini days look like the good old days.

www.clevescene.com
 
2014-01-21 04:07:47 PM  

Orgasmatron138: I don't know that much about the Browns. What's the deal? Bad ownership?


Fired a coach after one year on the job, which pissed off the entire team.
Went through three coaches in five years.
No QB or running back.
Too cheap to spend to the salary cap, which might mean they let two pro bowlers go this offseason.
Have had two winning seasons since rejoining the league and haven't won more than five games since 2007.
They play in a division that, while it's not as strong as it was, is still pretty good.
The media pressure is awful and their fans are almost Phily levels of awful.
Their owner is under federal investigation.  If he is forced to sell the team, odds are good that a new owner will want to clean house and put his guys in charge.

I may have forgotten some other things, but that's a basic list of all of Cleveland's problems in the last several years.
 
2014-01-21 04:09:42 PM  

llortcM_yllort: Orgasmatron138: I don't know that much about the Browns. What's the deal? Bad ownership?

Fired a coach after one year on the job, which pissed off the entire team.
Went through three coaches in five years.
No QB or running back.
Too cheap to spend to the salary cap, which might mean they let two pro bowlers go this offseason.
Have had two winning seasons since rejoining the league and haven't won more than five games since 2007.
They play in a division that, while it's not as strong as it was, is still pretty good.
The media pressure is awful and their fans are almost Phily levels of awful.
Their owner is under federal investigation.  If he is forced to sell the team, odds are good that a new owner will want to clean house and put his guys in charge.

I may have forgotten some other things, but that's a basic list of all of Cleveland's problems in the last several years.


Oh, is that all?
 
2014-01-21 04:10:43 PM  

ongbok: I don't see why you wouldn't want that head coaching job. They have a good defense and an offense that is set to be a powerhouse and they have 2 first round picks. If they gave me input on who to draft, I would jump at the job.


The reports are that Chud was largely fired for not going along with the front office's suggestions about personnel (like cutting Greg Little). Any candidate will not be given such input. They will expected to play patsy to a GM that was once the second in command in the Raiders organization. You're expected to take orders from Banner. You're expected to kiss up to an owner currently under federal investigation for his other business' rebating scam.

Those three idiots are why McDaniels, Gase and any other sensible HC prospect is avoiding this place like the plague.
 
2014-01-21 04:11:16 PM  

Orgasmatron138: llortcM_yllort: Orgasmatron138: I don't know that much about the Browns. What's the deal? Bad ownership?

Fired a coach after one year on the job, which pissed off the entire team.
Went through three coaches in five years.
No QB or running back.
Too cheap to spend to the salary cap, which might mean they let two pro bowlers go this offseason.
Have had two winning seasons since rejoining the league and haven't won more than five games since 2007.
They play in a division that, while it's not as strong as it was, is still pretty good.
The media pressure is awful and their fans are almost Phily levels of awful.
Their owner is under federal investigation.  If he is forced to sell the team, odds are good that a new owner will want to clean house and put his guys in charge.

I may have forgotten some other things, but that's a basic list of all of Cleveland's problems in the last several years.

Oh, is that all?


Also, their GM is a guy that wasn't in the league or even interviewed for a job after he farked over Oakland (and the Raiders are still trying to recover from it, too).
 
2014-01-21 04:12:21 PM  

llortcM_yllort: Orgasmatron138: llortcM_yllort: Orgasmatron138: I don't know that much about the Browns. What's the deal? Bad ownership?

Fired a coach after one year on the job, which pissed off the entire team.
Went through three coaches in five years.
No QB or running back.
Too cheap to spend to the salary cap, which might mean they let two pro bowlers go this offseason.
Have had two winning seasons since rejoining the league and haven't won more than five games since 2007.
They play in a division that, while it's not as strong as it was, is still pretty good.
The media pressure is awful and their fans are almost Phily levels of awful.
Their owner is under federal investigation.  If he is forced to sell the team, odds are good that a new owner will want to clean house and put his guys in charge.

I may have forgotten some other things, but that's a basic list of all of Cleveland's problems in the last several years.

Oh, is that all?

Also, their GM is a guy that wasn't in the league or even interviewed for a job after he farked over Oakland (and the Raiders are still trying to recover from it, too).


I forgot to mention that he was fired from Oakland five years ago.
 
2014-01-21 04:12:25 PM  
It won't be long before people in Cleveland are blaming Lebron for this also.
 
2014-01-21 04:12:58 PM  

ongbok: I don't see why you wouldn't want that head coaching job. They have a good defense and an offense that is set to be a powerhouse and they have 2 first round picks. If they gave me input on who to draft, I would jump at the job.


Which 2 quarterbacks would you take?
 
2014-01-21 04:14:51 PM  

lacydog: You're expected to take orders from Banner.


Otherwise, he gets angry. And you wouldn't like that.
 
2014-01-21 04:18:48 PM  

Triumph: Browns fans - answering the question: who does this guy laugh at?

[i.imgur.com image 850x984]


No, I think Browns fans get to laugh at that guy.   It's not their fault.   Browns management on the other hand...
 
2014-01-21 04:19:29 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: Gonz: I love that people are calling Rod Chudzinski, and taking his opinion to heart.

Cleveland's going to end up with Wade Phillips.

You know, grabbing Wade and then begging Norv or Kubiak to run his offense wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.  What about Schwartz or Leslie Fraizer for defensive coordinator?   It would be like a Voltron of 2013's fired coaches.


Norv already took another job
 
2014-01-21 04:19:43 PM  

Boba Fettucini: Nana's Vibrator: Gonz: I love that people are calling Rod Chudzinski, and taking his opinion to heart.

Cleveland's going to end up with Wade Phillips.

You know, grabbing Wade and then begging Norv or Kubiak to run his offense wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.  What about Schwartz or Leslie Fraizer for defensive coordinator?   It would be like a Voltron of 2013's fired coaches.

Leslie is already down in Tampa.


Is that right?  With Lovie?  Sh*t, now I have to go read things that I missed.  I thought Frazier was a Dungy guy.  To be hired so quickly - so many questions.
 
2014-01-21 04:21:25 PM  
llortcM_yllort:
The media pressure is awful and their fans are almost Phily levels of awful.

No it's not.

While there's a fair amount of biatching that goes on from the fans on talk radio, blogs, etc; there's plenty of fans that understood that this was a rebuilding year. They understood that we were *once again* completely blowing up the schemes of the previous administration. The large public reaction, from both fans and the media, is that firing Chud after one season is an absolute joke. We are really behind our players - a large contingent of fans were rooting for the Niners just because Phil Dawson kicks there now and we want him to win a super bowl.

The media pressure has been high on these three guys because they've done some baffling things. But the writers will trip over themselves to praise the team's effort if they win 6 games. Seriously. That's not Philly, where anything less than a conference championship has people discussing replacing the coach, QB and GM. The Browns went 10-6 and missed the playoffs once on a fluke season where Derek Anderson looked like a pro bowler. That season, I swear there was a new fluff piece on the Browns every day in the Plain Dealer.

Seriously, everyone will just be happy if we look mediocre. The problem is that the team has been in the bottom 5 since that magical Derek Anderson season. If we get 6 wins next year, everyone will be talking about "projecting the future of the Browns", and talking about how an AFC North title isn't out of the question.
 
2014-01-21 04:22:06 PM  
Lost Thought 00:
Norv already took another job

Jesus H. F'ing C, I get sick for a little while and everyone gets delusions of grandeur.
 
2014-01-21 04:25:40 PM  

revman64: Not sure I'd be looking at the Broncos O-coordinator for head coach anyway.  Manning seems to audible out of most of his calls at the line.


I'm no Bill Walsh...but when the offensive system you run calls for the OC to give the QB 2-4 plays per down...the chances he's going to audible at the line are 100% and have nothing to do with the perceived quality of the OC.

/Cue the more you know pic in 3, 2, 1...
 
2014-01-21 04:26:44 PM  

beantowndog: ongbok: I don't see why you wouldn't want that head coaching job. They have a good defense and an offense that is set to be a powerhouse and they have 2 first round picks. If they gave me input on who to draft, I would jump at the job.

Which 2 quarterbacks would you take?


If he is available Bridgewater and if not Carr. With the other pick I would take Tre Mason or Carlos Hyde
 
2014-01-21 04:27:54 PM  
What's Marty Morninhweg doing?
 
2014-01-21 04:28:10 PM  
I'll friggin' do it.  I'll sign a 5 year contract, work 1, and get paid for 3.  That'll will be more money than I'm going to make over the 2nd half of my current career anyway.  And I already live in Berea, the team's home town.  Is the position on Monster or somewhere?
 
2014-01-21 04:28:40 PM  

lacydog: llortcM_yllort:
The media pressure is awful and their fans are almost Phily levels of awful.

We are really behind our players - a large contingent of fans were rooting for the Niners just because Phil Dawson kicks there now and we want him to win a super bowl.


When you are rooting for your ex-kicker to do well in the playoffs on another team...you know your franchise is farked beyond measurable levels.

That's as depressing as it gets dude...my condolences.
 
2014-01-21 04:28:56 PM  

Orgasmatron138: I don't know that much about the Browns. What's the deal? Bad ownership?


The Cleveland Sports Curse.
 
2014-01-21 04:29:47 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: Lost Thought 00:
Norv already took another job

Jesus H. F'ing C, I get sick for a little while and everyone gets delusions of grandeur.


Yep, Vikings OC
 
2014-01-21 04:34:19 PM  

revman64: Not sure I'd be looking at the Broncos O-coordinator for head coach anyway.  Manning seems to audible out of most of his calls at the line.  I'd wait and see what this guy can do without Manning as QB.  If Peyton is smart, and if the Broncos win the Super Bowl, he should retire.  Teams will figure out how to get to him next year, if the Seahawks don't figure it out in a couple weeks.


So is he gonna retire to Omaha?
 
2014-01-21 04:36:23 PM  

ongbok: beantowndog: ongbok: I don't see why you wouldn't want that head coaching job. They have a good defense and an offense that is set to be a powerhouse and they have 2 first round picks. If they gave me input on who to draft, I would jump at the job.

Which 2 quarterbacks would you take?

If he is available Bridgewater and if not Carr. With the other pick I would take Tre Mason or Carlos Hyde


...Really?  Even ignoring that Bortles and Manziel are both considered better than Carr and Carr might still be available in the second round, Carlos Hyde?  The man is the third or fourth best at a position that is rapidly losing its relevance and you want to draft him in the first round?  He'll still probably be there when the Browns are picking in the third round.
 
2014-01-21 04:40:21 PM  
i still don't understand the Chud firing, does the browns front office look like the Kremlin or something? who ditches a promising coaching staff after just one year? i mean, the Vikings/Titans get something out of it i guess... so that's good
 
2014-01-21 04:43:29 PM  
Now that he's completely alienated the fans and every suitable coach in the NFL, I'm trying my best to guess where Haslam is going to move the team to ... LA? London? Lower Slobovia?

/ cries moar
 
2014-01-21 04:44:33 PM  

lacydog: llortcM_yllort:
The media pressure is awful and their fans are almost Phily levels of awful.

No it's not.

While there's a fair amount of biatching that goes on from the fans on talk radio, blogs, etc; there's plenty of fans that understood that this was a rebuilding year. They understood that we were *once again* completely blowing up the schemes of the previous administration. The large public reaction, from both fans and the media, is that firing Chud after one season is an absolute joke. We are really behind our players - a large contingent of fans were rooting for the Niners just because Phil Dawson kicks there now and we want him to win a super bowl.

The media pressure has been high on these three guys because they've done some baffling things. But the writers will trip over themselves to praise the team's effort if they win 6 games. Seriously. That's not Philly, where anything less than a conference championship has people discussing replacing the coach, QB and GM. The Browns went 10-6 and missed the playoffs once on a fluke season where Derek Anderson looked like a pro bowler. That season, I swear there was a new fluff piece on the Browns every day in the Plain Dealer.

Seriously, everyone will just be happy if we look mediocre. The problem is that the team has been in the bottom 5 since that magical Derek Anderson season. If we get 6 wins next year, everyone will be talking about "projecting the future of the Browns", and talking about how an AFC North title isn't out of the question.


They were calling for Shurmur's head after the first season two years ago and boy did they turn on LeBron in a nasty way.  However, the comparison with Phily mostly came from the fact that the city that brought us bottlegate and the ten cent beer night fiasco should have the same uncivil reputation as the Santa pelting city.
 
2014-01-21 04:46:07 PM  

Orgasmatron138: Oh, is that all?


Im hoping they hire the falcons OC just so we can get rid of his sorry ass
 
2014-01-21 04:54:53 PM  

llortcM_yllort: lacydog: llortcM_yllort:
The media pressure is awful and their fans are almost Phily levels of awful.

No it's not.

While there's a fair amount of biatching that goes on from the fans on talk radio, blogs, etc; there's plenty of fans that understood that this was a rebuilding year. They understood that we were *once again* completely blowing up the schemes of the previous administration. The large public reaction, from both fans and the media, is that firing Chud after one season is an absolute joke. We are really behind our players - a large contingent of fans were rooting for the Niners just because Phil Dawson kicks there now and we want him to win a super bowl.

The media pressure has been high on these three guys because they've done some baffling things. But the writers will trip over themselves to praise the team's effort if they win 6 games. Seriously. That's not Philly, where anything less than a conference championship has people discussing replacing the coach, QB and GM. The Browns went 10-6 and missed the playoffs once on a fluke season where Derek Anderson looked like a pro bowler. That season, I swear there was a new fluff piece on the Browns every day in the Plain Dealer.

Seriously, everyone will just be happy if we look mediocre. The problem is that the team has been in the bottom 5 since that magical Derek Anderson season. If we get 6 wins next year, everyone will be talking about "projecting the future of the Browns", and talking about how an AFC North title isn't out of the question.

They were calling for Shurmur's head after the first season two years ago and boy did they turn on LeBron in a nasty way.  However, the comparison with Phily mostly came from the fact that the city that brought us bottlegate and the ten cent beer night fiasco should have the same uncivil reputation as the Santa pelting city.


But does the stadium in Cleveland have its own jail?

/ rests case
 
2014-01-21 05:04:47 PM  

lacydog: 2) The Cleveland front office is completely insane, in ways that make the Eric Mangini days look like the good old days.


Hey, at least Eric Mangini was able to put together a winning streak (even when it was after the Browns were eliminated from the playoffs, but still...)
 
2014-01-21 05:09:08 PM  

veedeevadeevoodee: llortcM_yllort: lacydog: llortcM_yllort:
The media pressure is awful and their fans are almost Phily levels of awful.

No it's not.

While there's a fair amount of biatching that goes on from the fans on talk radio, blogs, etc; there's plenty of fans that understood that this was a rebuilding year. They understood that we were *once again* completely blowing up the schemes of the previous administration. The large public reaction, from both fans and the media, is that firing Chud after one season is an absolute joke. We are really behind our players - a large contingent of fans were rooting for the Niners just because Phil Dawson kicks there now and we want him to win a super bowl.

The media pressure has been high on these three guys because they've done some baffling things. But the writers will trip over themselves to praise the team's effort if they win 6 games. Seriously. That's not Philly, where anything less than a conference championship has people discussing replacing the coach, QB and GM. The Browns went 10-6 and missed the playoffs once on a fluke season where Derek Anderson looked like a pro bowler. That season, I swear there was a new fluff piece on the Browns every day in the Plain Dealer.

Seriously, everyone will just be happy if we look mediocre. The problem is that the team has been in the bottom 5 since that magical Derek Anderson season. If we get 6 wins next year, everyone will be talking about "projecting the future of the Browns", and talking about how an AFC North title isn't out of the question.

They were calling for Shurmur's head after the first season two years ago and boy did they turn on LeBron in a nasty way.  However, the comparison with Phily mostly came from the fact that the city that brought us bottlegate and the ten cent beer night fiasco should have the same uncivil reputation as the Santa pelting city.

But does the stadium in Cleveland have its own jail?

/ rests case



Yeah, they have a holding cell at FirstEnergy Stadium.
http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011/01/ohio_state_highway_patrolman _a .html
 
2014-01-21 05:09:49 PM  

lacydog: The media pressure has been high on these three guys because they've done some baffling things. But the writers will trip over themselves to praise the team's effort if they win 6 games


The fans, on the other hand, will cut you if you don't immediately make a playoff run.  And this, in spite of the backlash, is just the front office catering to the fans. The most consistent thing about the Browns is their inconsistency...and their inconsistency is fueled by their fans' impatience to have a winner on the field.  Thus, you have the perfect guy for the job: A guy who's only looking to catch lightning in a bottle and riding that wave all the way down.
 
2014-01-21 05:11:18 PM  
llortcM_yllort:

They were calling for Shurmur's head after the first season two years ago and boy did they turn on LeBron in a nasty way.

You say that as if neither of those things were entirely deserved.
 
2014-01-21 05:12:48 PM  

llortcM_yllort: The man is the third or fourth best at a position that is rapidly losing its relevance


...Marshawn Lynch and Knowshon Moreno would like a word with you on that.

/No, Trent Richardson wasn't good enough.
//Yes, one needs at least a semblance of a running game to survive in the league.
///No, the Browns haven't had even a semblance of a running game since Jamal Lewis was let go.
 
2014-01-21 05:14:08 PM  
Hire Butch Davis. He got your sorry asses to the playoffs. Or continue being farking clown shoes and waiting for the "right" guy. Either way is funny.
 
2014-01-21 05:19:43 PM  

IlGreven: llortcM_yllort: The man is the third or fourth best at a position that is rapidly losing its relevance

...Marshawn Lynch and Knowshon Moreno would like a word with you on that.

/No, Trent Richardson wasn't good enough.
//Yes, one needs at least a semblance of a running game to survive in the league.
///No, the Browns haven't had even a semblance of a running game since Jamal Lewis was let go.


Carlos Hyde isn't Knowshon Moreno.  He isn't even Montee Ball.
 
2014-01-21 05:25:52 PM  

lacydog: eriously, everyone will just be happy if we look mediocre. The problem is that the team has been in the bottom 5 since that magical Derek Anderson season. If we get 6 wins next year, everyone will be talking about "projecting the future of the Browns", and talking about how an AFC North title isn't out of the question.


So....typical season?
Just hope you get someone that doesn't fark up Hoyer's career. That guy actually has the goods. His biggest negative is playing for Cleveland.

I'm stuck with Andy Dalton & Giggles Lewis at coach, but I can always look to the north and remember it's not the 1990s.
 
2014-01-21 05:30:46 PM  

llortcM_yllort: IlGreven: llortcM_yllort: The man is the third or fourth best at a position that is rapidly losing its relevance

...Marshawn Lynch and Knowshon Moreno would like a word with you on that.

/No, Trent Richardson wasn't good enough.
//Yes, one needs at least a semblance of a running game to survive in the league.
///No, the Browns haven't had even a semblance of a running game since Jamal Lewis was let go.

Carlos Hyde isn't Knowshon Moreno.  He isn't even Montee Ball.


Moreno shiats himself during games.
 
2014-01-21 05:45:53 PM  

revman64: Not sure I'd be looking at the Broncos O-coordinator for head coach anyway.  Manning seems to audible out of most of his calls at the line.  I'd wait and see what this guy can do without Manning as QB.  If Peyton is smart, and if the Broncos win the Super Bowl, he should retire.   Teams will figure out how to get to him next year, if the Seahawks don't figure it out in a couple weeks.


So all the years prior to this one the other teams in the league just weren't motivated enough to crack the secret code?  If it were that simple wouldn't there have been a noticeable increase in the number of sacks on Manning in 2005 after he first broke the touchdown record?  Or in 2007 after he won the Super Bowl?  It's not a big secret what you have to do to stop him.  You just have to be able to get pressure with on him without blitzing, or at least disguise your blitzes really well and hope you can confuse him.  The hard part is actually getting it done on the field.

I also don't think there's a chance in hell that he retires after this season, win or lose in two weeks, unless the doctors find something bad during his check-up on his neck that's scheduled for this offseason.

I agree with you completely about Gase though.  It's easy to look good when your offense is being lead by PFM.  He could be an offensive genius and perfectly suited for a head coaching job, or he could be the next Josh McDaniels.  I'd definitely want to wait and see if he can keep it up beyond this season before handing him a HC job, but desperation will often lead to grasping at straws.
 
2014-01-21 05:50:35 PM  

Coach_J: revman64: Not sure I'd be looking at the Broncos O-coordinator for head coach anyway.  Manning seems to audible out of most of his calls at the line.

I'm no Bill Walsh...but when the offensive system you run calls for the OC to give the QB 2-4 plays per down...the chances he's going to audible at the line are 100% and have nothing to do with the perceived quality of the OC.

/Cue the more you know pic in 3, 2, 1...


Agree to a point, but I'd still like to see how successful he is with an average QB.  Manning and all those weapons would make just about any competent OC look like a genius.  He's only been OC since last January.
 
2014-01-21 06:06:48 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: Gonz: I love that people are calling Rod Chudzinski, and taking his opinion to heart.

Cleveland's going to end up with Wade Phillips.

You know, grabbing Wade and then begging Norv or Kubiak to run his offense wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.  What about Schwartz or Leslie Fraizer for defensive coordinator?   It would be like a Voltron of 2013's fired coaches.


You know, I suggested this jokingly, but I think I've got the answer. You bring in a retread to serve as the HC. Somebody who's willing to put up with the crap for one more chance at NFL glory: Jim Fassel. He never won a Super Bowl, but he went to one.

Hire Gary Kubiak to OC, and Wade Phillips to run the defense. Jim Schwartz if the Wade/ Kubiak dynamic is too screwed up from Houston. It's a bunch of safe, generic hires, and you end up with a team that's got 9-7 written all over it. Injuries drop that to about 6-10, a lot of luck and a favorable schedule could conceivably get 10 wins. 11 is an absolute ceiling.

Browns fans would all stab hobos to death for an 11-5 team.
 
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