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(Politico)   Former House Rep Patrick Kennedy takes issue with Obama's stance on pot saying that the weed of today is much better than the schwag he used to sell to Spaulding Smails   (politico.com) divider line 78
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2014-01-21 03:12:41 PM

AeAe: I wonder who is paying Patrick Kennedy's salary these days.


Meet the New Boss,
 
2014-01-21 03:16:33 PM
He's absolutely right.  One time I smoked so much of this new fangled modern weed that I had a lot of snacks and ended up being too tired to watch the movie I was in the middle of so I went to sleep and finished watching the movie the next day.

/To be fair, I was already tired when I started
 
2014-01-21 03:28:13 PM

Aquapope: Every single person I'm very close friends with smokes weed daily.  Several of them smoke weed all day long.  3 of them are very successful business owners (10+ years in business), at least 4 are upper management in fairly large companies, and several are self-employed since the mid-nineties.  Another dozen or so have had full-time jobs at the same place for many years.


And you spend your day commenting on FARK.  Maybe you should be smoking more stuff like your friends who have jobs during the day.
 
2014-01-21 03:35:42 PM
I remember back in the old days passing a couple of joints around a group of 4 or 5  people. Today, it would be one joint and it would get put out halfway through.

Whats the BFD?
 
2014-01-21 03:41:55 PM
The Kennedy's aalways had the good stuff.

ts1.mm.bing.net
 
2014-01-21 03:52:23 PM

GhostFish: whidbey: GhostFish: Gee, maybe if it's a regulated substance then there can be some restrictions placed on THC content in commercial products.

If someone is selling stuff that violates regulations, you can do the same you do to moonshiners.

This isn't hard.

Making the mistake of equating something relatively harmless to moonshine? It was a pretty easy for you.

I didn't equate the substances. I equated the violation of regulations. And how many people making moonshine for personal consumption ever get a visit from the ATF?


No, no dude.

You made a ridiculous comparison.

Own up to it.
 
2014-01-21 04:06:14 PM
I feel like this whole line of debate is a trap for pro-pot people. Anti-pot people are trying to frame the discussion around the question "is pot dangerous?" Pro-pot people can try to argue that it isn't but there are going to be a range of answers to that question based mostly on personal feeling.

The real issue should center around the question "is what we're doing now working?" and I think it is a lot easier to convince people it is not. Black market weed is freely available, used widely, unregulated, and all of the money spent on it goes to criminals. Even people who would never use it themselves should be able to see that legalization can help quell many of those problems.
 
2014-01-21 04:06:18 PM
EvilEgg: I am of two minds about the whole pot legalization thing.  On one hand, smoking is obnoxious and bad for you.  On the other hand it would probably be at least as regulated as tobacco, so it's unlikely to bother me much.

Get back to me when they start making a THC, Caffeine, and Alcohol drink.


Generally, I like the idea of legalzation for several reasons, including being able to regulate it like tobacco, put tax on it, get money flowing into the government from the sales, removing the threat stigma and criminal records from the users, etc.  cambie (post above yours) had a *damn* good idea regarding putting % THC information on the packaging, as we do with beer and other alcohol.  I'd *love* to see that idea get a lot of traction.

And, of course, we could do as we do with laws regarding alcohol.  Alcohol is legal, but there are laws concerning abuse (public intoxication, DWI, stiffer regulations for pilots, etc.).  Why should pot be any different?

My *biggest* fear with regard to legalization is that Big Tobacco will try and muscle into a legal pot industry and do that that stuff what they've done to tobacco.  Surely we've all heard about all the nasty stuff that they routinely add to tobacco.  Bad is tobacco might be, these additives (don't recall all that shiat offhand, someone please feel free to post a list) is far worse on its own than straight tobacco ever was.

I think people should watch legalization very closely to make sure none of that poison gets 'industrialized' into legal weed.
 
2014-01-21 04:08:47 PM
Somebody doesn't know their Caddyshack. Spaulding bought the weed from A Negro.
 
2014-01-21 04:12:45 PM
"and do that that stuff what they've done to tobacco"

... should have read 'and add all that stuff to weed that they add to tobacco'.

/shouldn't try to post when I'm working.
 
2014-01-21 04:16:33 PM
Just to be more blatant about it:

If pot is legalized, we have to either keep Big Tobacco out of it, or make sure they are watched and hamstrung if necessary.  They have a proven track record of cheerfully and deliberately poison their customers.  Plus, someone may slip them cash to make sure the pot is more harmful than necessary, so it can be shown as the 'Demon Weed'.
 
2014-01-21 04:17:11 PM
*poisoning.

goddamitsomuch.
 
2014-01-21 05:00:15 PM
it's all fun and games potheads until the weed gets to 110% THC and then watch people start dying left and right.
 
2014-01-21 05:02:48 PM
Bourbon shouldn't be legal because it's so much stronger than beer.

/derp
 
2014-01-21 05:04:53 PM
50 bucks says he picks his nose!
 
2014-01-21 05:32:33 PM

MFAWG: Somebody doesn't know their Caddyshack. Spaulding bought the weed from A Negro.



The world needs ditchweeders, too.
 
2014-01-21 05:51:16 PM

snocone: Well, as Hill said, "What difference does it make?"


Internet Rule #35: Any thread can be tied back to Benghazi, because reasons.
 
2014-01-21 06:42:16 PM
Listen kids.  Pot's not the same now as when I was your age.  The THC content has gone up by at least a factor of 10.  One little puff gives you what it took an entire joint to get before.

Kids these days have no idea how good they have it.
 
2014-01-21 06:43:37 PM

T-Boy: Aquapope: Every single person I'm very close friends with smokes weed daily.  Several of them smoke weed all day long.  3 of them are very successful business owners (10+ years in business), at least 4 are upper management in fairly large companies, and several are self-employed since the mid-nineties.  Another dozen or so have had full-time jobs at the same place for many years.

And you spend your day commenting on FARK.  Maybe you should be smoking more stuff like your friends who have jobs during the day.


You're posting during the day to snark about me posting during the day?
 
2014-01-21 06:47:00 PM
Kennedy doesn't have much sympathy for the people who's lives are ruined by absurd marijuana convictions. If white, suburban kids were dragged into the legal system because of weed the way blacks and Hispanics are there would be a drastically different drug policy in America.
 
2014-01-21 06:51:11 PM

wheatpennyandaglock: "Hey if it's oregano man, you can use it in your soup"


"That chit wouldn't get a fly high!"
 
2014-01-21 08:17:39 PM
My two most commonly used drugs are thc and caffeine. When I go a few days without thc I think "I'd sure like to smoke some weed, oh well." When I go a day without coffee I get a throbbing headache.

Maybe the coffee now is just stronger than the coffee Patrick Kennedy was served in the opulent mansion that he grew up in.
 
2014-01-21 10:51:05 PM
BRB, smoking super weed now.
 
2014-01-21 11:31:08 PM
Patrick Kennedy (D-UI)

Why do I have to live near this f*cking useless human being? Aside from the fact that he can't drive sober, he also had his campaign aide ask a friend of mine if she wanted to meet the former (then current) Congressman at a local motel.

You're supposed to disappear! Go be useless like everyone else in Portsmouth!
 
2014-01-22 12:28:09 PM

Tenga: I remember back in the old days passing a couple of joints around a group of 4 or 5  people. Today, it would be one joint and it would get put out halfway through.

Whats the BFD?


The BFD is the fear mongering has several fall back positions to go thru before any truth gets told.
 
2014-01-22 10:07:31 PM
And this is coming from the Ambien & driving guy?
 
2014-01-22 10:13:25 PM

CBob: And this is coming from the Ambien & driving guy?



It helps if you remember "reversion to mean."

Or "An apple doesn't fall far from the tree, but it will roll all the way down on a hill."
 
2014-01-23 12:43:44 AM

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: My *biggest* fear with regard to legalization is that Big Tobacco will try and muscle into a legal pot industry and do that that stuff what they've done to tobacco.


Frankly I'll take them over the Russian and Mexican mafias which are currently controlling the pot trade. It's not a bunch of hippies that have the big grow scenes anymore. It's a bunch of very scary dudes with only a rudimentary command of the English language.
 
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