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(New York Daily News)   NYC Mayor de Blasio gets a school lesson from Gov. Cuomo on how to give universal pre-K to New Yorkers without raising taxes. Now go sit in a corner mayor   (nydailynews.com) divider line 26
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2014-01-21 11:36:50 AM
NYC Mayor de Blasio gets a school lesson from Gov. Cuomo on how to give universal pre-K free day-care to New Yorkers without raising taxes.
 
2014-01-21 11:38:39 AM
Yes, having the state giving you the money vs having to raise it yourself from the city is a bit of a difference.
 
2014-01-21 11:44:01 AM

markfara: NYC Mayor de Blasio gets a school lesson from Gov. Cuomo on how to give universal pre-K free day-care to New Yorkers without raising taxes.


Agreed. There's absolutely nothing crucial or important about early childhood education that can help these children develop and grow throughout their adult lives.
 
2014-01-21 11:45:09 AM
lolwut
 
2014-01-21 11:48:55 AM
<b>FTFA:</b><i> Throughout the mayoral campaign, de Blasio called for raising income taxes on city residents who earn at least $500,000 to pay for pre-K and after school programs. The tax hike, he said, would provide a guaranteed revenue stream, safeguarding the funding from the whims of the annual state budget process.
"We don't want a phase in," de Blasio said earlier this month.</i>

It's almost as if this WEREN'T some magical accounting by Cuomo and is, instead, something the mayor has already dismissed for valid reasons. He wants to make pre-k funding something that can't later be cut. It's almost as if the state has gone after pre-k funding during hard times before...
 
2014-01-21 11:49:18 AM

markfara: NYC Mayor de Blasio gets a school lesson from Gov. Cuomo on how to give universal pre-K free day-care to New Yorkers without raising taxes.


As a New Yorker with young kids who pays a shiatload of Federal, State and Municipal taxes, I can assure you that any service I receive from any of those three levels of government is not at all "free".

I'm fine with paying the taxes, so long as I get some decent services, especially those that benefit everyone in the city, state or country like better education and healthcare.
 
2014-01-21 11:49:41 AM
Apparently the lesson is to wait for the economy to get better? I fail to see what Cuomo "taught" De Blasio here.
 
2014-01-21 11:51:06 AM

organizmx: markfara: NYC Mayor de Blasio gets a school lesson from Gov. Cuomo on how to give universal pre-K free day-care to New Yorkers without raising taxes.

Agreed. There's absolutely nothing crucial or important about early childhood education that can help these children develop and grow throughout their adult lives.


Agreed. There's also absolutely nothing crucial or important about early free day care which can help save parents tens of thousands of dollars spent early in life to be saved for college and used later in life, especially when the cost of college and the cost of student loans are so high.

/pays$520/month for 3 days a week.

^  This is probably cheap compared to others since I live in Tulsa
 
2014-01-21 11:51:34 AM
So, uh, shinebox something something something?
 
2014-01-21 11:56:32 AM
in Georgia pre-k is funded by the lottery, same with some of the college grants. Works out nicely
 
2014-01-21 11:59:12 AM
Good. Taxes are like someone shiatting in your mouth Sara Palin says so!
 
2014-01-21 12:02:52 PM

illogic: markfara: NYC Mayor de Blasio gets a school lesson from Gov. Cuomo on how to give universal pre-K free day-care to New Yorkers without raising taxes.

As a New Yorker with young kids who pays a shiatload of Federal, State and Municipal taxes, I can assure you that any service I receive from any of those three levels of government is not at all "free".

I'm fine with paying the taxes, so long as I get some decent services, especially those that benefit everyone in the city, state or country like better education and healthcare.


I think this would be indicative of anybody sane and rational; problem is politicians see such a thing as "free money for themselves, friends, political allies, etc."
 
2014-01-21 12:06:48 PM

ScaryBottles: Good. Taxes are like someone shiatting in your mouth Sara Palin says so!


She would know how?

}:-)>
 
2014-01-21 12:11:01 PM

neversubmit: ScaryBottles: Good. Taxes are like someone shiatting in your mouth Sara Palin says so!

She would know how?

}:-)>


No one wants to read your fanfics creepo.
 
2014-01-21 12:26:35 PM

Unoriginal_Username: in Georgia pre-k is funded by the lottery, same with some of the college grants. Works out nicely


Like the population of foxes and rabbits. If one gets too high or too low the other will adjust and push things back towards equilibrium.
 
2014-01-21 12:38:59 PM
Cuomo wants to separately fund the addition of pre-K classroom space through a $2 billion education technology bond

Yes. Rather than taxing hard working job-creators, we should borrow money from them, which the little tykes can then repay when they grow up.
 
2014-01-21 12:39:34 PM
...with interest.
 
2014-01-21 12:40:28 PM
..and fees.
 
2014-01-21 12:59:49 PM

JolobinSmokin: organizmx: markfara: NYC Mayor de Blasio gets a school lesson from Gov. Cuomo on how to give universal pre-K free day-care to New Yorkers without raising taxes.

Agreed. There's absolutely nothing crucial or important about early childhood education that can help these children develop and grow throughout their adult lives.

Agreed. There's also absolutely nothing crucial or important about early free day care which can help save parents tens of thousands of dollars spent early in life to be saved for college and used later in life, especially when the cost of college and the cost of student loans are so high.

/pays$520/month for 3 days a week.

^  This is probably cheap compared to others since I live in Tulsa


High for Tulsa. I drop $800/mo for 5 days North of Seattle. But yeah, you want to see a boost to the economy, free up $10k per family.
 
2014-01-21 01:28:26 PM

Pappas: <b>FTFA:</b><i> Throughout the mayoral campaign, de Blasio called for raising income taxes on city residents who earn at least $500,000 to pay for pre-K and after school programs. The tax hike, he said, would provide a guaranteed revenue stream, safeguarding the funding from the whims of the annual state budget process.
"We don't want a phase in," de Blasio said earlier this month.</i>

It's almost as if this WEREN'T some magical accounting by Cuomo and is, instead, something the mayor has already dismissed for valid reasons. He wants to make pre-k funding something that can't later be cut. It's almost as if the state has gone after pre-k funding during hard times before...


dedicated revenue streams are bad public policy.
 
2014-01-21 01:31:54 PM
I'm completely unconvinced of the need for full day kindergarten. Particularly when my school district hasn't had a full school year in over a decade. At the risk of sounding like a Teabagger, how about we "Fix old, no new?"
 
2014-01-21 01:38:17 PM
Jesus, dumbmitter, did you fall out of bed and hit a tardpole on the way down? It's a bond, meaning that this is just an accounting trick that we're going to have to pay for later. And it's easily revocable. AND DeBlasio was advocating for the authority to pay for it out of New York City-raised funds precisely because he is a city official and thus it is his job to work on city programs, and I'm sure that he'd be happy to participate in a state program, although he'd prefer to have more local control because the state uses sui generis laws to rob New York City of much of its autonomy compared to other municipalities in the state (the property tax system in New York City is imposed by the state, while other places had more control until the Governor's new property tax cap plan).
 
2014-01-21 02:47:25 PM
Don't worry, DeBlasio will still raise taxes.
 
2014-01-21 05:09:32 PM
neversubmit: ScaryBottles: Good. Taxes are like someone shiatting in your mouth Sara Palin says so!

She would know how?

}:-)>


Someone once paid taxes in her mouth.
 
2014-01-21 06:05:53 PM
I thought all right-thinking progressives were in favor of prudent borrowing for infrastructure like new classroom space, but since Andrew Cuomo isn't as leftastic as DeBlasio it's a douche move now?
 
I'm not sold on universal pre-K being a slam-dunk great thing. It sure would have saved me and Mrs. Eel a bucketload of money, at least in the short run. It sounds like it would be, but the research on outcomes is a lot more inconclusive. We're still all about the science, right? Or does that go out the window now because This Is For The ChildrenTM ?
 
2014-01-21 10:00:55 PM

markfara: NYC Mayor de Blasio gets a school lesson from Gov. Cuomo on how to give universal pre-K free day-care to New Yorkers without raising taxes.


It's 3 hours down here in Florida. That just leaves 21 hours.
 
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