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2014-01-21 10:03:31 AM  
Great, state-approved propaganda photography.  Woop de doo, what does it all mean, Basil?
 
2014-01-21 10:06:01 AM  

topcon: Great, state-approved propaganda photography.  Woop de doo, what does it all mean, Basil?


i60.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-21 10:07:43 AM  
I still can't get over how big of a deal the dead eternal President is there.  You know I don't hate our POTUS but I sure as hell don't keep a photo of him in my living room nor do I see any statues of him on my commute.  It would be laughable if it weren't so desperately sad.
 
2014-01-21 10:11:54 AM  

nekom: I still can't get over how big of a deal the dead eternal President is there.  You know I don't hate our POTUS but I sure as hell don't keep a photo of him in my living room nor do I see any statues of him on my commute.  It would be laughable if it weren't so desperately sad.


Don't ever visit the area around the National Mall in the U.S. Nothing but statues and monuments of dead Presidents.
 
2014-01-21 10:12:11 AM  

nekom: I still can't get over how big of a deal the dead eternal President is there.  You know I don't hate our POTUS but I sure as hell don't keep a photo of him in my living room nor do I see any statues of him on my commute.  It would be laughable if it weren't so desperately sad.


remember, if they didn't cry hard enough when he died, they were placed in labor camps...kinda puts things in perspective...i'd have his photo on my mantle too...
 
2014-01-21 10:12:34 AM  
I always read "DPRK" as "DERP" upon initial glance.
 
2014-01-21 10:14:10 AM  
ChrisDe:
Don't ever visit the area around the National Mall in the U.S. Nothing but statues and monuments of dead Presidents.

Right.  In a capitol city which also houses some of our greatest museums.  That's reasonable.

A photo in EVERY single home mandated and spot-checked by the government?  Not so much reasonable.  Lincoln has a memorial there, as well he should.  Lincoln does not have statues in every single town, nor does anyone believe that he descended from the heavens and created a double rainbow before he invented freedom and nachos.
 
2014-01-21 10:14:46 AM  

ChrisDe: Don't ever visit the area around the National Mall in the U.S. Nothing but statues and monuments of dead Presidents.


Because that's exactly the same as NK.
 
2014-01-21 10:15:11 AM  

nekom: I still can't get over how big of a deal the dead eternal President is there.  You know I don't hate our POTUS but I sure as hell don't keep a photo of him in my living room nor do I see any statues of him on my commute.  It would be laughable if it weren't so desperately sad.


they do surprise inspections to make sure you have a picture of him up in your house (maybe even in every room I don't remember).
 
2014-01-21 10:17:41 AM  
Four pics, none of which show a street view - approved.
 
2014-01-21 10:18:23 AM  

nekom: ChrisDe:
Don't ever visit the area around the National Mall in the U.S. Nothing but statues and monuments of dead Presidents.

Right.  In a capitol city which also houses some of our greatest museums.  That's reasonable.

A photo in EVERY single home mandated and spot-checked by the government?  Not so much reasonable.  Lincoln has a memorial there, as well he should.  Lincoln does not have statues in every single town, nor does anyone believe that he descended from the heavens and created a double rainbow before he invented freedom and nachos.


Are you telling me Abraham Ignacio Lincoln didn't invent nachos?
 
2014-01-21 10:20:28 AM  
Well, that was disappointing.
 
2014-01-21 10:20:42 AM  
Are there any street views of Best Korean Traffic Ladies?

www.2point6billion.com
 
2014-01-21 10:22:02 AM  
If North Korea is to be one day integrated into the world economy, then it is my opinion that more should be known about the country than just the political issues.

Hm.

*stands up*
*politely walks outside*
*closes door*

BWAAAAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA.

*door opens*
*politely sits down*

Sorry, you were saying? Something about adding an impoverished, over-militarized, brainwashed and generally oppressed sea of humanity to the world economy, and this being a positive thing for anyone involved?
 
2014-01-21 10:23:53 AM  

imtheonlylp: nekom: I still can't get over how big of a deal the dead eternal President is there.  You know I don't hate our POTUS but I sure as hell don't keep a photo of him in my living room nor do I see any statues of him on my commute.  It would be laughable if it weren't so desperately sad.

remember, if they didn't cry hard enough when he died, they were placed in labor camps...kinda puts things in perspective...i'd have his photo on my mantle too...


There was an article about this when Kim Jong il died.  It went on for weeks, if you were seen in public you better have tears in your eyes for dear leader or they might haul you away and no one will see you again.

Here's one of them.  Punished for not crying: Thousands of North Koreans face labour camps for not being upset enough about death of Kim Jong-il
 
2014-01-21 10:25:04 AM  

topcon: Great, state-approved propaganda photography.  Woop de doo, what does it all mean, Basil?


It means the entire country of North Korea can be summed up in only 60-70 photographs.

AMAZING!
 
2014-01-21 10:26:57 AM  

Aram Pan is keen to convey
A "softer" North Korea each day.
He'd better move fast
His luck might not last-
Just ask a fellow named Kenneth Bae.

 
2014-01-21 10:29:00 AM  
A beach, a ballet practice room, a subway station, some mountainous terrain.

I'll say one thing for them.  Their Street View Car can go anywhere.
 
2014-01-21 10:29:31 AM  
Even if this wasn't thinly veiled propaganda.  Even if all of these photos are legitimate and genuine glimpses into the lives of ordinary North Koreans.  Even if all that were true, then so what?

The government is still a corrupt totalitarian regime made up of an elite that basically rapes the country for all it's wealth and leaves a vast majority impoverished.  This is documented fact.

The government still threatens to unleash nuclear war on the US, South Korea, and anybody else that happens to annoy it on any given week.  Yeah, I know it's all bullshiat, but again, so what?  Until the regime stops the dick-waving then there is absolutely no reason to give them the time of day.
 
2014-01-21 10:44:07 AM  
Today's horoscope: If you are a Taurean, it is better to be a South Taurean than a North Taurean.
 
2014-01-21 10:44:49 AM  

Close2TheEdge: The government is still a corrupt totalitarian regime made up of an elite that basically rapes the country for all it's wealth and leaves a vast majority impoverished.  This is documented fact.


That sounds vaguely familiar.

Who just pulled in the driveway in a black van?
 
2014-01-21 10:52:49 AM  
Just once, I want to see a North Korean chick naked.

Just once.
 
2014-01-21 11:06:29 AM  

BarryTheMasterOfSandwich: Just once, I want to see a North Korean chick naked.

Just once.


I suspect someone to come out of the bush and ask if you're Dr. Livingstone
 
2014-01-21 11:07:47 AM  

BarryTheMasterOfSandwich: Just once, I want to see a North Korean chick naked.

Just once.


Closest thing you'll get, unless you go visit the brothels on the Chinese side of the border with Best Korea.
 
2014-01-21 11:11:58 AM  

max_pooper: Are you telling me Abraham Ignacio Lincoln didn't invent nachos?


No, but he did kill a LOT of vampires.
 
2014-01-21 11:11:59 AM  

BarryTheMasterOfSandwich: Just once, I want to see a North Korean chick naked.

Just once.


There's even a video.   You've not seen it?
 
2014-01-21 11:13:06 AM  

Carn: imtheonlylp: nekom: I still can't get over how big of a deal the dead eternal President is there.  You know I don't hate our POTUS but I sure as hell don't keep a photo of him in my living room nor do I see any statues of him on my commute.  It would be laughable if it weren't so desperately sad.

remember, if they didn't cry hard enough when he died, they were placed in labor camps...kinda puts things in perspective...i'd have his photo on my mantle too...

There was an article about this when Kim Jong il died.  It went on for weeks, if you were seen in public you better have tears in your eyes for dear leader or they might haul you away and no one will see you again.

Here's one of them.  Punished for not crying: Thousands of North Koreans face labour camps for not being upset enough about death of Kim Jong-il


yep. perzackery. scary thought...


"WHY YOU NO CRY FOR DEAD READER?? RABOR CAMP FOR YOU, ROSER!!"
 
2014-01-21 11:15:18 AM  

Flab: BarryTheMasterOfSandwich: Just once, I want to see a North Korean chick naked.

Just once.

Closest thing you'll get, unless you go visit the brothels on the Chinese side of the border with Best Korea.



Is that link NSFW?
 
2014-01-21 11:16:06 AM  

BarryTheMasterOfSandwich: Flab: BarryTheMasterOfSandwich: Just once, I want to see a North Korean chick naked.

Just once.

Closest thing you'll get, unless you go visit the brothels on the Chinese side of the border with Best Korea.


Is that link NSFW?


Dunno.  It was farked when I checked it.
 
2014-01-21 11:21:39 AM  

BarryTheMasterOfSandwich: Is that link NSFW?


no, it was a statue in a bathing suit.

SBinRR: Dunno. It was farked when I checked it.


Yeah.  Damn you Flickr!
 
2014-01-21 11:42:28 AM  
"They are now more concerned about everyday things like buying the latest North Korean smart phone and having that cool beer at the end of a hard day's work."

Maybe for the party elite you get to see in Pyongyang.  For most of the country it should probably read "they are more concerned about buying a handful of black-market rice and not getting in trouble for missing quota in their slave-labor job"

Boy this dude really drank the proverbial kool aid.
 
2014-01-21 11:46:56 AM  
beach vorreybarr
 
2014-01-21 11:57:32 AM  

ChrisDe: nekom: I still can't get over how big of a deal the dead eternal President is there.  You know I don't hate our POTUS but I sure as hell don't keep a photo of him in my living room nor do I see any statues of him on my commute.  It would be laughable if it weren't so desperately sad.

Don't ever visit the area around the National Mall in the U.S. Nothing but statues and monuments of dead Presidents.


Chill guys... It's just Dennis.
 
2014-01-21 12:27:49 PM  
Link Parked already?
 
2014-01-21 12:45:35 PM  

DrunkWithImpotence: "They are now more concerned about everyday things like buying the latest North Korean smart phone and having that cool beer at the end of a hard day's work."

Maybe for the party elite you get to see in Pyongyang.  For most of the country it should probably read "they are more concerned about buying a handful of black-market rice and not getting in trouble for missing quota in their slave-labor job"

Boy this dude really drank the proverbial kool aid.


They have a huge black and grey market over there, on top of free housing and free medical. Sure, it probably isn't the best, but like anyplace, those with ambition find a way to improve. For example, some guy in NK lives with his folks and gets a job with the government. Gets married, so is given a house to live in for free. Wife doesn't officially work, but makes rice wine and sells on the black market. The national currency isn't worth squat, so it's only accepted if foreign currency or barter isn't available. Sure, he only makes $3/month, but factoring in all the benefits he gets  it would be quite a bit compared to US standards and anything she makes is gravy, major gravy. Remember, they have consumers there, but very few "official" places to buy - demand without supply. On the face anyway - there will be supply to meet that demand.

Imagine if we didn't have places to buy crap over here, how popular would Craigslist and the neighborhood yard sale become?

Is it even that much better here? Some guy here lives with his folks. Goes to college and racks up an $80,000 tuition bill. Gets a government job for $40,000/yr and immediately gets taxed through Fed, SS, and ACA 50%, to bring his take home down to $20k/yr. He buys a car with payments of $250 a month and is taxed on that. He fills the car with fuel that is taxed for a total car expense of about $6600/yr. This leaves him about $1100/mo for internet, cell, tuition payments, etc. He gets married and buys a beater house with payments of $900/mo, (conservative), of which he pays taxes on. This only leaves him about $200/mo, but his wife picks up a job. and they do OK until the kids come. They can't afford $2/hr daycare for each kid, so she stays home. Basically, all his money is going toward the American dream with nothing left over. So, his wife starts selling crap on Ebay. The arts and crafts stuff she makes doesn't make much, so she hits the estate and garage sales to build inventory. They survive.

What is the difference between the anyman in NK getting robbed from the front end and the US anyman getting robbed off the back end?
 
2014-01-21 01:00:49 PM  
Ficoce:
What is the difference between the anyman in NK getting robbed from the front end and the US anyman getting robbed off the back end?

If you want to find an example of where communism is livable under, you aren't going to sell anyone on best Korea.  Cuba would be a better example.  The average Cuban makes about $20 a day, but health care, education even through University and many other services are free.  Food is cheap.  The people are poor, sure, but no one is starving to death.  It's probably not the best idea to badmouth Castro, but as long as you don't get too carried away with that, you probably aren't going to disappear.  I wouldn't prefer living there, but there are some aspects to admire, perhaps even some important things to be learned.

Best Korea, though.  The average man on the street is doing well?  In Pyongyang, perhaps.  Have you seen the smuggled footage from elsewhere?  Public executions?  The horrors of labor camps told by defectors?  It's insanity and hell.
 
2014-01-21 01:23:04 PM  
Funny, I don't see any starving citizens. These pictures must have been taken next to mall food courts.
 
2014-01-21 01:25:04 PM  

Close2TheEdge: Until the regime stops the dick-waving then there is absolutely no reason to give them the time of day.


wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net
 
2014-01-21 01:29:03 PM  

nekom: Ficoce:
What is the difference between the anyman in NK getting robbed from the front end and the US anyman getting robbed off the back end?

If you want to find an example of where communism is livable under, you aren't going to sell anyone on best Korea.  Cuba would be a better example.  The average Cuban makes about $20 a day, but health care, education even through University and many other services are free.  Food is cheap.  The people are poor, sure, but no one is starving to death.  It's probably not the best idea to badmouth Castro, but as long as you don't get too carried away with that, you probably aren't going to disappear.  I wouldn't prefer living there, but there are some aspects to admire, perhaps even some important things to be learned.

Best Korea, though.  The average man on the street is doing well?  In Pyongyang, perhaps.  Have you seen the smuggled footage from elsewhere?  Public executions?  The horrors of labor camps told by defectors?  It's insanity and hell.


That's why I tried to use the average. Extremes are too easy. The average guy in NK could say the US has executed almost 1400 people since '76, not counting the war on terror. Most of the prisons and some high schools have manufacturing programs for profit - that wouldn't take much to spin. Cuba? That's a vacation island for the world, excluding the US. Might as well use Barbados as an example.
 
2014-01-21 01:31:34 PM  

Ficoce: What is the difference between the anyman in NK getting robbed from the front end and the US anyman getting robbed off the back end?


Like every single luxury we have. Actually, like every single non-luxury, staple that we take for granted. They don't have those either. Definitely that car. Ever seen pictures of North Korean streets? Also food. Also the luxury of not being killed if you don't weep enough for Dear Leader.

I saw a documentary about what you were referring to at the beginning of your post. It's pretty entertaining albeit disturbing.

http://www.vice.com/the-vice-guide-to-travel/vice-guide-to-north-kor ea -1-of-3
 
2014-01-21 01:31:59 PM  

nekom: If you want to find an example of where communism is livable under, you aren't going to sell anyone on best Korea. Cuba would be a better example. The average Cuban makes about $20 a day, but health care, education even through University and many other services are free. Food is cheap. The people are poor, sure, but no one is starving to death.  It's probably not the best idea to badmouth Castro, but as long as you don't get too carried away with that, you probably aren't going to disappear. I wouldn't prefer living there, but there are some aspects to admire, perhaps even some important things to be learned.


Assuming you actually believe all of the statistics provided by the Cuban government, sure, it's a paradise.

The reality is a bit harsher. For example, most people have to bring their own medicines to a hospital for treatment. The good stuff is kept for rich people and party members (which is the same thing). They don't count babies that die at birth, which skews the life expectancy figures a great deal.

I'll be convinced when I start seeing people flocking to get into Cuba, instead of the other way around.

http://www.creators.com/opinion/john-stossel/cuba-has-better-health- ca re-than-the-united-states.html
 
2014-01-21 02:05:08 PM  
Loadmaster:
Assuming you actually believe all of the statistics provided by the Cuban government, sure, it's a paradise.

The reality is a bit harsher. For example, most people have to bring their own medicines to a hospital for treatment. The good stuff is kept for rich people and party members (which is the same thing). They don't count babies that die at birth, which skews the life expectancy figures a great deal.

I'll be convinced when I start seeing people flocking to get into Cuba, instead of the other way around.


Oh I'm not saying they have better health care than we do here, I rather doubt that could be the case with the massive fortune spent on it here.  I'm just saying that's an example of a communist state that's not THAT bad.  I could live in Cuba, it's not a desperate hell hole.  One could probably carve out a comfortable life there, raise a family.  And to be fair, SOME in best Korea get to do that but mostly in their showcase capitol.
 
2014-01-21 02:30:15 PM  

Pangea: Ficoce: What is the difference between the anyman in NK getting robbed from the front end and the US anyman getting robbed off the back end?

Like every single luxury we have. Actually, like every single non-luxury, staple that we take for granted. They don't have those either. Definitely that car. Ever seen pictures of North Korean streets? Also food. Also the luxury of not being killed if you don't weep enough for Dear Leader.

I saw a documentary about what you were referring to at the beginning of your post. It's pretty entertaining albeit disturbing.

http://www.vice.com/the-vice-guide-to-travel/vice-guide-to-north-kor ea -1-of-3


Yeah, pretty similar to all the reports by all western journalist. Kind of funny though, Malaysians can travel to NK without a visa and the northern borders are open to the Chinese, who can drive across and visit, just like we do with Mexico.  Why don't the journalists interview the people that have freely traveled the Northern provinces? I guess we aren't that welcome in China either.

NK doesn't like us much, and we don't like them. NK is a resource rich, cash poor country who survived by trading minerals to China for food, until the 1990's when the Chinese wanted cash for food; and millions starved. Is it a coincidence that this was the time the US started exporting scrap metal to China to be sold back to us as bar stock, so they wouldn't need the metal from NK? If you want to find common ground, I bet the NK miners and the US steel workers would have a good time complaining about the Chinese over a beer; except all the NK guys would mysteriously die of hangovers the next morning, while the US workers filled out apps at Home Depot.

I don't like communism, but it would be nice to know what was going on without the spin and propaganda.
 
2014-01-21 02:41:32 PM  
Ficoce:
I don't like communism, but it would be nice to know what was going on without the spin and propaganda.

It would, and that's part of the problem.  How can you TRULY know what goes on there?  It's no secret that the USA has every motivation to paint them in a bad light.  It's also no secret that government propaganda is ridiculous and the tours they give are orchestrated tours of one showcase city.  Defectors may have reason to exaggerate the conditions of the labor camps in order to guarantee asylum, but many of them have said the same thing.  Plus once they already have asylum, why lie?  What little candid information does make it out of there is horrifying.
 
2014-01-21 02:50:04 PM  

nekom: Ficoce:
I don't like communism, but it would be nice to know what was going on without the spin and propaganda.

It would, and that's part of the problem.  How can you TRULY know what goes on there?  It's no secret that the USA has every motivation to paint them in a bad light.  It's also no secret that government propaganda is ridiculous and the tours they give are orchestrated tours of one showcase city.  Defectors may have reason to exaggerate the conditions of the labor camps in order to guarantee asylum, but many of them have said the same thing.  Plus once they already have asylum, why lie?  What little candid information does make it out of there is horrifying.


I'm not saying its OK to treat people poorly, but I'd think people might stop bringing babies into the world if conditions are actually horrible.

It's easy for me to say over here, but it seems like I'd be hesitant to subject a child to actual suffering. Given that they're communist, it's not like you need the kids to care for you in old age.
 
2014-01-21 05:19:28 PM  

Pangea: nekom: Ficoce:
I don't like communism, but it would be nice to know what was going on without the spin and propaganda.

It would, and that's part of the problem.  How can you TRULY know what goes on there?  It's no secret that the USA has every motivation to paint them in a bad light.  It's also no secret that government propaganda is ridiculous and the tours they give are orchestrated tours of one showcase city.  Defectors may have reason to exaggerate the conditions of the labor camps in order to guarantee asylum, but many of them have said the same thing.  Plus once they already have asylum, why lie?  What little candid information does make it out of there is horrifying.

I'm not saying its OK to treat people poorly, but I'd think people might stop bringing babies into the world if conditions are actually horrible.

It's easy for me to say over here, but it seems like I'd be hesitant to subject a child to actual suffering. Given that they're communist, it's not like you need the kids to care for you in old age.


If I am having trouble feeding myself, how the hell am I going to afford birth control?
 
2014-01-21 05:22:15 PM  

nekom: I still can't get over how big of a deal the dead eternal President is there.  You know I don't hate our POTUS but I sure as hell don't keep a photo of him in my living room nor do I see any statues of him on my commute.   It would be laughable if it weren't so desperately sad.



blogs.star-telegram.com
 
2014-01-21 05:46:29 PM  

MechTard: Pangea: nekom: Ficoce:
I don't like communism, but it would be nice to know what was going on without the spin and propaganda.

It would, and that's part of the problem.  How can you TRULY know what goes on there?  It's no secret that the USA has every motivation to paint them in a bad light.  It's also no secret that government propaganda is ridiculous and the tours they give are orchestrated tours of one showcase city.  Defectors may have reason to exaggerate the conditions of the labor camps in order to guarantee asylum, but many of them have said the same thing.  Plus once they already have asylum, why lie?  What little candid information does make it out of there is horrifying.

I'm not saying its OK to treat people poorly, but I'd think people might stop bringing babies into the world if conditions are actually horrible.

It's easy for me to say over here, but it seems like I'd be hesitant to subject a child to actual suffering. Given that they're communist, it's not like you need the kids to care for you in old age.

If I am having trouble feeding myself, how the hell am I going to afford birth control?


True
 
2014-01-21 06:00:38 PM  

Pangea: nekom: Ficoce:
I don't like communism, but it would be nice to know what was going on without the spin and propaganda.

It would, and that's part of the problem.  How can you TRULY know what goes on there?  It's no secret that the USA has every motivation to paint them in a bad light.  It's also no secret that government propaganda is ridiculous and the tours they give are orchestrated tours of one showcase city.  Defectors may have reason to exaggerate the conditions of the labor camps in order to guarantee asylum, but many of them have said the same thing.  Plus once they already have asylum, why lie?  What little candid information does make it out of there is horrifying.

I'm not saying its OK to treat people poorly, but I'd think people might stop bringing babies into the world if conditions are actually horrible.

It's easy for me to say over here, but it seems like I'd be hesitant to subject a child to actual suffering. Given that they're communist, it's not like you need the kids to care for you in old age.


I think it's precisely because you live here that you have the ability to consider how you might respond. People who are trying to scrape a pathetic life together have no time for philosophizing. Kids can provide free labor to help your plight.
 
2014-01-21 09:25:14 PM  

ChrisDe: Don't ever visit the area around the National Mall in the U.S. Nothing but statues and monuments of dead Presidents.


People would travel many miles to see these monuments. They are fat and we would try to hit them with our cars.
 
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