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(Yahoo)   Johnny Maziel challenges Seahawks "12th man" boast. Fortunately, whatever team that drafts him will never face Seattle in a game   (sports.yahoo.com) divider line 44
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2014-01-21 09:27:55 AM  
The Seahawks pay T A&M $5000 per year to use the "12th Man" term?  Ok, that is stupid.  What's next, Russell wilson paying J.M. tree-fiddy per year to call himself "Russell Football?"
 
2014-01-21 09:57:07 AM  
aTm is the original 12th man.  I thought everyone knew that.
 
2014-01-21 10:10:21 AM  
"Apparently, Manziel is pretty certain the Seahawks won't be drafting him."

Bold prediction.
 
2014-01-21 10:30:48 AM  
But oh the LOLZ if the Cardinals do:)
 
2014-01-21 10:35:54 AM  
Now I hope Manziel goes to the Browns and gets guaranteed to have an awful career
 
2014-01-21 10:41:17 AM  

twistedmetal: aTm is the original 12th man.  I thought everyone knew that.


Well, you know, besides all of those teams using that term in the early 1900s.  A&M was the only org smart enough to trademark it, though.

\Manziel, meet Kam Chancellor
 
2014-01-21 10:41:33 AM  

twistedmetal: aTm is the original 12th man.  I thought everyone knew that.


If Seattle wants to use the "12th Man" bit, they need to fully embrace it.

Open tryouts, only for residents in their primary TV markets, of amateur athletes who didn't play D-1 college sports. One guy makes the cut, gets jersey #12, and plays kickoff coverage.
 
2014-01-21 10:51:48 AM  
I don't see the reason for the hate here. Manziel is just defending his schools tradition
 
2014-01-21 10:53:06 AM  

Gonz: twistedmetal: aTm is the original 12th man.  I thought everyone knew that.

If Seattle wants to use the "12th Man" bit, they need to fully embrace it.

Open tryouts, only for residents in their primary TV markets, of amateur athletes who didn't play D-1 college sports. One guy makes the cut, gets jersey #12, and plays kickoff coverage.


Two words:  Players Union.
 
2014-01-21 10:57:14 AM  

Gonz: twistedmetal: aTm is the original 12th man.  I thought everyone knew that.

If Seattle wants to use the "12th Man" bit, they need to fully embrace it.

Open tryouts, only for residents in their primary TV markets, of amateur athletes who didn't play D-1 college sports. One guy makes the cut, gets jersey #12, and plays kickoff coverage.


One guy? The entire kickoff coverage team. And bring in Jackie Sherrill as special teams coach.
 
2014-01-21 11:02:19 AM  
Why will the team that drafts him never face Seattle in a game? Are the Seahawks moving to OK City?
 
2014-01-21 11:03:15 AM  

ChrisDe: One guy? The entire kickoff coverage team. And bring in Jackie Sherrill as special teams coach.


Does Jackie get to turn a bull to a steer in front of the team? Or, in this case, a stallion into a gelding?

'Cause I think I can get you a discount if there's castration involved.
 
2014-01-21 11:13:37 AM  

tbaughm: Now I hope Manziel goes to the Browns and gets guaranteed to have an awful career


It's happening.  I mean, it really just has to happen.

/Manziel is just the sort of confident kid who can really turn around a moribund franchise!
//LOL
 
2014-01-21 11:18:27 AM  
Seattle seachickens ripping off a college team.  No wonder they are shiatty ass franchise.
 
2014-01-21 11:28:16 AM  

runaway06: I don't see the reason for the hate here. Manziel is just defending his schools tradition


"I can't wait to leave College Station..." - Johnny Foosball
 
2014-01-21 11:36:14 AM  
A&M has been using it regularly since the 20s -- Seattle began using it in the early 80s.  A&M filed the trademark in 1990, but didn't go after Seattle until 2006 when Seattle went to their first Super Bowl.

They settled out of court for $5000, which is pretty much nothing.  Because A&M would have lost in court for not even pretending to protect their trademark, while Seattle had been using it for a decade before A&M had even trademarked it.

This way A&M can still pretend they own it and sue other people if they want, and Seattle can keep using it.
 
2014-01-21 11:44:28 AM  

Dogfacedgod: Seattle seachickens ripping off a college team.  No wonder they are shiatty ass franchise.


Yeah, they just can't seem to have any success. *eye roll*
 
2014-01-21 11:46:01 AM  
Why wouldn't the team that drafts Manziel ever play Seattle? Am I missing something or does subby not understand how NFL schedules are made?
 
2014-01-21 11:54:08 AM  

surrealbowl: A&M has been using it regularly since the 20s -- Seattle began using it in the early 80s.  A&M filed the trademark in 1990, but didn't go after Seattle until 2006 when Seattle went to their first Super Bowl.

They settled out of court for $5000, which is pretty much nothing.  Because A&M would have lost in court for not even pretending to protect their trademark, while Seattle had been using it for a decade before A&M had even trademarked it.

This way A&M can still pretend they own it and sue other people if they want, and Seattle can keep using it.


Not quite. The initial payment was 100k to A&M, then 5k a year until 2016 when the agreement is up. At which point I would imagine they will be paying a fark ton more. I'd have just made up a new name myself. It's not like it's even  a particularly good name.
 
2014-01-21 11:54:18 AM  

mikaloyd: Why will the team that drafts him never face Seattle in a game? Are the Seahawks moving to OK City?


If the Raiders get him, he'll face the Seahawks next year.
 
2014-01-21 11:56:16 AM  

Kornchex: mikaloyd: Why will the team that drafts him never face Seattle in a game? Are the Seahawks moving to OK City?

If the Raiders get him, he'll face the Seahawks next year.


Is he still a considered top5 pick?
 
2014-01-21 12:08:05 PM  

Moopy Mac: Why wouldn't the team that drafts Manziel ever play Seattle? Am I missing something or does subby not understand how NFL schedules are made?


I think the prevailing assumption is that Manziel will get the start, start his running around hijinks, and then promptly get plastered by someone the like of Chancellor or Willis.
 
2014-01-21 12:19:30 PM  

Moopy Mac: Why wouldn't the team that drafts Manziel ever play Seattle? Am I missing something or does subby not understand how NFL schedules are made?


I believe the theory is that mostly AFC teams will draft in the top 5 (where Manziel is expected to go) so he will end up not playing the Seahawks who are in the NFC
 
2014-01-21 12:22:50 PM  

smerfnablin: Moopy Mac: Why wouldn't the team that drafts Manziel ever play Seattle? Am I missing something or does subby not understand how NFL schedules are made?

I believe the theory is that mostly AFC teams will draft in the top 5 (where Manziel is expected to go) so he will end up not playing the Seahawks who are in the NFC


They'd still play each NFC team every four years.

/I guess if he went to Houston, whom they played this year, he might be out of the league before he plays Seattle.
 
2014-01-21 12:30:32 PM  
Who?
 
2014-01-21 12:47:11 PM  
Maybe subby means he'll end up playing in the CFL.
 
2014-01-21 01:12:40 PM  

Mentat: "Apparently, Manziel is pretty certain the Seahawks won't be drafting him."

Bold prediction.


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2014-01-21 01:14:40 PM  
Maziel's Cleveland squad will face Seattle in the Superbowl next year. book it.
 
2014-01-21 01:28:45 PM  

smerfnablin: Moopy Mac: Why wouldn't the team that drafts Manziel ever play Seattle? Am I missing something or does subby not understand how NFL schedules are made?

I believe the theory is that mostly AFC teams will draft in the top 5 (where Manziel is expected to go) so he will end up not playing the Seahawks who are in the NFC


Except that he will, because every AFC team rotates through the NFC divisions and plays each NFC team at least once every four years. I suspect <b>Subby</b> was being sarcastic and pointing out that Manziel is mocking a team which is guaranteed to have a chance to kick his ass at some point.
 
2014-01-21 01:33:11 PM  
The kid can throw.  But a 400 pound linebacker will eat him up and spit him out.

Maybe he can join Tebow in a few years in the broadcast booth.
 
2014-01-21 01:34:57 PM  
 
2014-01-21 02:44:29 PM  

TheGreatGazoo: The kid can throw.  But a 400 pound linebacker will eat him up and spit him out.

Maybe he can join Tebow in a few years in the broadcast booth.


I don't know. He's got questionable judgement sometimes... but he also has a few inches on the seahawks starter and drew brees. I'm never surprised when a college qb flames out but the kid has put up a couple of good games against alabama the last couple years and that's about as big and fast as college gets. His draft stock seems to be rising, not sinking. Whether or not he makes it is anyone's guess. But at this point all he has to do is stay alive and not go to jail and he'll be a millionaire many times over this time next year.
 
2014-01-21 03:36:06 PM  
Doesn't seem a smart move to demonstrate an inability to respect your franchise's agreements (like the licensing deal) right before looking for a new franchise...
 
2014-01-21 03:56:27 PM  
I'd have thought '12th Man' would've been fairly common sport-spiel and thus un-trademark-able, it's endemic in some places.
 
2014-01-21 04:19:05 PM  

Worked for him when he challenged KC fans:

i.usatoday.net

 
2014-01-21 04:33:58 PM  
You're right Subby, Johnny Maziel will never face Seattle since he does not exist.

/Johnny Manziel on the other hand, should do so if he can stick with the same team for at most 4 years
//rotating schedules and such
 
2014-01-21 04:50:41 PM  
Seattle's so called "12th man" isn't the super-fans, but the acoustics of the stadium.

Put that same lot-of-losers in a conventional stadium, and nothing special will happen. A totally false sense of prestige.
 
2014-01-21 04:57:58 PM  

FoonFlake: Seattle's so called "12th man" isn't the super-fans, but the acoustics of the stadium.

Put that same lot-of-losers in a conventional stadium, and nothing special will happen. A totally false sense of prestige.


Whatever helps you sleep an night.
 
2014-01-21 07:22:44 PM  

Dogfacedgod: Seattle seachickens ripping off a college team.  No wonder they are shiatty ass franchise.


Seattle retired the #12 in 1984 for the fans. The 12th man was trademarked by Texas A&M in 1989. Other college teams used the 12th man term before Texas A&M. But don't let facts get in the way of your Seahawks rage.
 
2014-01-21 07:28:52 PM  
Maybe Manziel thinks the NFL works like the SEC where nobody schedule any good out of conference games.

"I'm gonna be in the AFC, that means, what, we play the Redskins, Vikings, and Buccaneers every season right?"
 
2014-01-21 09:35:33 PM  

JohnBigBootay: TheGreatGazoo: The kid can throw.  But a 400 pound linebacker will eat him up and spit him out.

Maybe he can join Tebow in a few years in the broadcast booth.

I don't know. He's got questionable judgement sometimes... but he also has a few inches on the seahawks starter and drew brees.


Brees and Wilson are students of the game.   Manziel is a head-case, and isn't that big, relative to the prototype NFL QB.   Frankly, given his history, I'd be surprised if he goes top 5, and it wouldn't shock me if he slipped to late 1st round.   GMs have looked around the league at the type of guy that succeeds at that level, and it isn't "undersized head-case."
 
2014-01-21 09:37:55 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Moopy Mac: Why wouldn't the team that drafts Manziel ever play Seattle? Am I missing something or does subby not understand how NFL schedules are made?

I think the prevailing assumption is that Manziel will get the start, start his running around hijinks, and then promptly get plastered by someone the like of Chancellor or Willis.


Bingo...
 
2014-01-21 10:47:59 PM  

JayCab: Maybe Manziel thinks the NFL works like the SEC where nobody schedule any good out of conference games.

"I'm gonna be in the AFC, that means, what, we play the Redskins, Vikings, and Buccaneers every season right?"


The SEC lost the National Championship Game.  You can let go of the memes now.
 
2014-01-21 10:55:36 PM  

EnormousGreenRageMonster: smerfnablin: Moopy Mac: Why wouldn't the team that drafts Manziel ever play Seattle? Am I missing something or does subby not understand how NFL schedules are made?

I believe the theory is that mostly AFC teams will draft in the top 5 (where Manziel is expected to go) so he will end up not playing the Seahawks who are in the NFC

Except that he will, because every AFC team rotates through the NFC divisions and plays each NFC team at least once every four years. I suspect <b>Subby</b> was being sarcastic and pointing out that Manziel is mocking a team which is guaranteed to have a chance to kick his ass at some point.


Most farkers are apparently not sports fans.
 
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