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(Boston.com)   Blogger is incredulous that his neighbor has the right to cut down a tree, on the neighbor's own property, so he goes whining to the city. Not surprisingly, quite a few people have a problem with his point of view   (boston.com) divider line 45
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2014-01-21 12:49:37 AM  
28 votes:
You think that's bad? My asshole neighbor (who moved in AFTER I was already here) tore down a historic shed in his backyard. When I complained that now he could see me in the altogether, he called me a stoner and suggested I was stealing from other neighbors! What a douche...
2014-01-20 11:43:58 PM  
9 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: I really like large trees.  One of the reasons I bought the house I did was because it has a couple huge oaks on it.

The one in the rear is on my property, but just barely.  When a new family moved into the house whose property borders it and started removing a lot of the vegetation, I was worried they might think the tree was theirs and try to do something to it.  I thought about going over, but 'Welcome to the neighborhood - don't touch my tree' didn't sound neighborly in my head.

Thankfully they didn't mess with it, but I still feel I need to do something to mark it as mine to keep something from happening to it in the future, especially since it stands outside of my fence (which was there before I moved in).

I'm thinking about putting up a decorative stone circle and some mulch around the base so that they realize I have a claim to it.


Wait until they have a backyard cookout or something, go outside in full sight of them, and piss on the tree.
2014-01-20 11:23:32 PM  
9 votes:
(And keep in mind the closeness of properties here in Somerville -- the most densely populated city in America. Maybe, if you're in the suburbs or further from the city, you can't quite relate to this debate, but for some of us urbanites, even a single tree makes a gigantic difference in the way a property looks and feels.)


Right. So here is where I lose my farking mind. The most densely populated city in America???? urbanites?? A single tree?? You're not in Cabrini Green you farking twat, you're on a tree lined street a few blocks from the center of town. There's a bike path two blocks from your house. You live half a mile from Elizabeth Warren.

I hope you get eaten by a bear.
2014-01-20 11:38:38 PM  
7 votes:
Hell the way it is trending in this country he will be able to marry his neighbors tree soon.
2014-01-21 01:24:03 AM  
6 votes:
You all are a feeling-less bunch.
I've had this happen to me.
You all have no idea what it is like, waking up in the morning, calmly, almost zen-fully and definitely ritualistically prepare your organic soy latte, carry the cup you crafted by hand yourself out to your back yard....only to find that this ancient creature you used to carry on wordless conversations with every morning murdered by your neighbor.
Who cares about arbitrary lines drawn in the municipality?!
It was a living creature!

You were not there the night I gathered my friends and we had a candlelight vigil in remembrance of that mighty oak. You did not hear the sobbing.

Even at the risk of getting arrested, many times I have considered jumping over the 'fence' and placing a small monument for my fallen friend.

So before you judge this person in haste, try to imagine what kind of relation he had with the tree. What kind of conversations they had every morning. How long he mourned.

Forgive me. I have to stop typing and make another soy latte to steady my nerves.
AND I'm trying to cut down on caffeine.

/I keed. I KEED.
2014-01-21 12:31:54 AM  
6 votes:
Idiot new neighbors cut down a healthy (and gorgeous) willow and do it yourself *paved* their backyard.
Cost me $200 to install a berm to stop their new 'yard' from flooding my already wet yard. Another 200 for a higher back fence because they pointed their damn light at my house and asking politely had no result.
New berms on their other neighbors' lawns has given them a nice swimming pool when it rains...and as of this fall the willow's popping back up for a third time.

Punchline: Asked local landscape company what they could do about their flooding yard without spending a lot...his answer was "Tear up the concrete and plant a thirsty tree, maybe a willow."

This article guy, this guy is a douche. If their removal of the tree had an effect on the neighboring properties other than 'look,' he'd have a legitimate point of view. Maybe.
2014-01-20 11:17:37 PM  
5 votes:

So. This is my town. I've lived here since 2002, and bought a postage stamp condo in the "gentrifying" section of town in August.



Somerville, MA is the most densely populated city in New England. We invented Fluff and the necco waver. The first American Flag was flown in Somerville. We have the oldest co-ed public high school in the US.

It's not all good. Somerville is a weird place, going through a bit of an identity crisis. Whitey Bulger, a gangster, killed a bunch of people in my new "gentrifying" neighborhood, and the income disparity is off the charts. DINKS like us can afford to spend several hundred thousand dollars on 700sq feet, but we still have a very high free and reduced lunch* program in the public schools. What was once a very blue collar, working class town has turned partly into a very, very hip, expensive, young area.

The neighborhood this douche lives in - Davis Sq- has some of the highest rents in Massachusetts- and they live side by side with people who have owned their house for generations, and are confused with by the boutique humus shop and all the farking froyo joints.

Anyway, I just want to say that while Davis Sq can be more insufferable than Berkeley, I love this town. This guy? He's a dick. But very very soon, he will meet some pretentious young girl, they'll buy a Bernese Mountain Dog, scrape the Elizabeth Warren sticker off the Prius and move to the a planned community in Hingham.

And good riddance.

*organic, high protein low gluten lunches. Some of the best in the country.
2014-01-20 11:43:16 PM  
4 votes:

mikeray: Hell the way it is trending in this country he will be able to marry his neighbors tree soon.


We had a good thread going.  And then you decided to post.
2014-01-20 11:41:58 PM  
4 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: but I still feel I need to do something to mark it as mine to keep something from happening to it in the future,


How about a low stone wall?

www.ecorazzi.com
2014-01-21 12:39:03 AM  
3 votes:

Harry_Seldon: Three Crooked Squirrels: Keep in mind when bashing HOAs: This is why some people like HOAs.

This is why I live in an wonderfully landscaped HOA where our parks and green spaces preserved some of the old growth, and commonly MAINTAIN them.


Do the fees cover the cost of smug or do you pay for that out of your own pocket?
2014-01-20 11:51:04 PM  
3 votes:

Marmilman: mikeray: Hell the way it is trending in this country he will be able to marry his neighbors tree soon.

TIMMMMAYYYYYYYY


Hey I can joke about that subject, my boyfriend is gay.
2014-01-21 09:19:38 AM  
2 votes:
I planted a tree in my back yard and the neighbor lady came over with her pants full of butt hurt. Turns out that in 10 years that tree was going to block her view of the neighborhood pond. She informed me that I was to ask her permission if I was going to plant any more trees.

So I pointed out that at 75 years old, she:
A) Wasn't going to be around in 10 years to see the view.
B) In 10 years she wouldn't even remember this conversation.

Couldn't deliver those comments with a straight face, so I am not sure if my laughing or the message was what made her go to DEFCON 1. Either way, one less Christmas card I have to send out now.
2014-01-21 02:14:27 AM  
2 votes:

Harry_Seldon: tomerson: Asa Phelps: Stopped reading at "my landlord".

Stopped reading at "progressive city'.

Off the top of my head: Honolulu, Seattle, Boulder, Portland, San Fransisco, San Jose, and many more are all magnitudes more progressive than Boston.

San Francisco has better chowder.


A little know fact; every time I read the word chowder; I also hear John F. Kennedy say the word "chowDAH" in my mind.

/ it's quite maddening
2014-01-21 01:18:15 AM  
2 votes:

bikkurikun: Benevolent Misanthrope: And if you read to the very end, you learn that he's a renter.  He has no investment it the neighborhood.  He's just another entitled little shiat who thinks the world exists to suit him.

What an asshole.


A renter has no investment in the neighbourhood? WTF does property ownership have to do with investment in the neighbourhood? If he invests his time in trying to make the neighbourhood better he invests in it. A renter who spends time volunteering or being politically active has far more investment in a neighbourhood than someone who owns property but doesn't give a fark. Whether he is right or wrong, he obviously cares for how the neighbourhood is looking, so he invests in it.

I don't get the property ownership fetish. Even if you own property, unless you are in the middle of nowhere, you still live in a community and the long terms needs of the community are more important than the individual short-term whims of a property owner.

But then again I am living in Europe where indeed there are laws against these kind of things; you can't just cut down trees on your land unless there is a valid reason for it, just as you can't built what you want if other people have to look at it too, and you can't alter historical buildings without permission. I think those perfectly sane rules aimed at preserving the community in the long term as that it is deemed far more important than the individual needs, whether you own the property or not.


While we appreciate your input, here in America they tried your way and nearly everybody starved to death.  Since about 1611, we're a little more keen on private property than you old worlders.
2014-01-21 01:02:43 AM  
2 votes:

bikkurikun: Benevolent Misanthrope: And if you read to the very end, you learn that he's a renter.  He has no investment it the neighborhood.  He's just another entitled little shiat who thinks the world exists to suit him.

What an asshole.


A renter has no investment in the neighbourhood? WTF does property ownership have to do with investment in the neighbourhood? If he invests his time in trying to make the neighbourhood better he invests in it. A renter who spends time volunteering or being politically active has far more investment in a neighbourhood than someone who owns property but doesn't give a fark. Whether he is right or wrong, he obviously cares for how the neighbourhood is looking, so he invests in it.

I don't get the property ownership fetish. Even if you own property, unless you are in the middle of nowhere, you still live in a community and the long terms needs of the community are more important than the individual short-term whims of a property owner.

But then again I am living in Europe where indeed there are laws against these kind of things; you can't just cut down trees on your land unless there is a valid reason for it, just as you can't built what you want if other people have to look at it too, and you can't alter historical buildings without permission. I think those perfectly sane rules aimed at preserving the community in the long term as that it is deemed far more important than the individual needs, whether you own the property or not.


That's why you don't know shiat about shiat, and think that everyone has to lay down before Lord Pope of DoucheTown. Thanks for explaining that from the start.
2014-01-20 11:00:07 PM  
2 votes:

Lsherm: We had a beautiful tree in the middle of our driveway circle, and it dropped a farking branch on my car the size of a medium sized tree.  I cut that farker down the next day.  It took a farking year to get rid of the stump, but we have a nice longleaf pine there now.

Trees need to be cut down for all kinds of reasons.  If his neighbor needs a shed, then his neighbor needs a shed.  It's not Patrick Smith's place to decide what other people do with trees on their property.  He's free to plant trees in his own yard if he wants.


Actually, he's not.  You see, he's a renter.  He'd have to ask permission of the person who owns the property.  But he seems to think his rent includes voting rights on the disposition of his neighbors' private property, because he can see their trees and likes them.  It's typical toddler reasoning - If I can see it, it's mine.

Entitled little shiat.
2014-01-21 02:36:06 PM  
1 votes:
Background music:  http://youtu.be/UWHEcIbhDiw

♫  There is unrest in the suburbs
There is trouble with the trees
For the neighbors want more sunlight
And this blogger is displeased

The problem with the neighbors
And their pesky owners' rights
Is that the trees are just too messy
And they grab up all the light
But this guy can't help his feelings
He explains in his tirade
As he wonders why the neighbors
Can't be happy in their shade

There is trouble in the suburbs
And the blogger posts a thread
As he screams about "OPPRESSION!"
And the neighbors shake their heads

So the journalist's delusion
That he'll win this stupid fight
"My neighbors are just douchebags!"
"They can't exercise their rights!"
So he filed a public grievance
With the local government
But it turns out he's a renter
So shut up... and... get bent! ♫
2014-01-21 11:28:59 AM  
1 votes:

WTFDYW: bikkurikun: Benevolent Misanthrope: And if you read to the very end, you learn that he's a renter.  He has no investment it the neighborhood.  He's just another entitled little shiat who thinks the world exists to suit him.

What an asshole.


A renter has no investment in the neighbourhood? WTF does property ownership have to do with investment in the neighbourhood? If he invests his time in trying to make the neighbourhood better he invests in it. A renter who spends time volunteering or being politically active has far more investment in a neighbourhood than someone who owns property but doesn't give a fark. Whether he is right or wrong, he obviously cares for how the neighbourhood is looking, so he invests in it.

I don't get the property ownership fetish. Even if you own property, unless you are in the middle of nowhere, you still live in a community and the long terms needs of the community are more important than the individual short-term whims of a property owner.

But then again I am living in Europe where indeed there are laws against these kind of things; you can't just cut down trees on your land unless there is a valid reason for it, just as you can't built what you want if other people have to look at it too, and you can't alter historical buildings without permission. I think those perfectly sane rules aimed at preserving the community in the long term as that it is deemed far more important than the individual needs, whether you own the property or not.

Stay the fark right where you are at then. There's enough dipshiats already here that think we should live under the same rules and standards the Europeans do. Why the fark do you think our ancestors left there and came here?

/enjoy your lack of property rights


"Derp derp derp dadgum Yoo-ro-peen soshalizm it's all mine me me me me mine not yours no community just me me me mine derp derp derp derp all mine fark everybody else me me me derp."
2014-01-21 10:06:04 AM  
1 votes:

shda5582: Benevolent Misanthrope: And if you read to the very end, you learn that he's a renter.  He has no investment it the neighborhood.  He's just another entitled little shiat who thinks the world exists to suit him.

What an asshole.

Oh, so he's a libtard?


Yes, exactly.
2014-01-21 08:36:04 AM  
1 votes:
It is just a natural extension of what we have been seeing for years.

Groups telling people what to do with their large land properties. (No development)
Groups tell businesses want to tell them what to do with their properties. (Historic building set asides but not providing any money.)
Home owners telling others that they can't build buildings which block their view of the mountains, etc.
Home owners telling others what improvements they can and can't do with their property.

Now, renters want to tell home owners what they can do with their property.

Well, FARK YOU Mr. Whiney Marxist Renter.
2014-01-21 07:47:39 AM  
1 votes:

what_now: So. This is my town. I've lived here since 2002, and bought a postage stamp condo in the "gentrifying" section of town in August.

Somerville, MA is the most densely populated city in New England. We invented Fluff and the necco waver. The first American Flag was flown in Somerville. We have the oldest co-ed public high school in the US.

It's not all good. Somerville is a weird place, going through a bit of an identity crisis. Whitey Bulger, a gangster, killed a bunch of people in my new "gentrifying" neighborhood, and the income disparity is off the charts. DINKS like us can afford to spend several hundred thousand dollars on 700sq feet, but we still have a very high free and reduced lunch* program in the public schools. What was once a very blue collar, working class town has turned partly into a very, very hip, expensive, young area.

The neighborhood this douche lives in - Davis Sq- has some of the highest rents in Massachusetts- and they live side by side with people who have owned their house for generations, and are confused with by the boutique humus shop and all the farking froyo joints.

Anyway, I just want to say that while Davis Sq can be more insufferable than Berkeley, I love this town. This guy? He's a dick. But very very soon, he will meet some pretentious young girl, they'll buy a Bernese Mountain Dog, scrape the Elizabeth Warren sticker off the Prius and move to the a planned community in Hingham.

And good riddance.

*organic, high protein low gluten lunches. Some of the best in the country.


img.fark.net


Do you have something against Bernese mountain dogs? Why single them out as though they're bad?
2014-01-21 07:38:48 AM  
1 votes:

iheartscotch: I'm actually kind of surprised. I would have figured some people around here would be all for imposing their will on property that they don't own; in the most ridiculous manner possible.


We're a bit more focused. We reserve our arguments over control of wallets, guns and vaginas.
2014-01-21 02:32:11 AM  
1 votes:

six-n-tombstone: Brainsick: You think that's bad? My asshole neighbor (who moved in AFTER I was already here) tore down a historic shed in his backyard. When I complained that now he could see me in the altogether, he called me a stoner and suggested I was stealing from other neighbors! What a douche...

Considering he is in jail for stealing, drugging and violating his parole; your trolling is invalid.


He drugged and violated his parole? Is that like date rape?

/It was a joke (and an old one at that), not a troll...though I am strangely pleased you were confused, so maybe...
tb.himg.baidu.com
2014-01-21 02:15:26 AM  
1 votes:

Brainsick: /blogger is a douche, so are people who think that 'owning' a house means they can do whatever they want on the property
//9/10ths of you, I'm sure a bank actually owns whatever you are claiming is 'yours'
///renter


You are clearly a renter and fairly naive.

The bank owns my mortgage because that's how it works.  But when I claim it's 'mine' (quoting because you did on 'yours') I assure you that if someone gets hurt on my property they will sue me and not the bank.  The bank doesn't pay one red cent towards 'my' property taxes.  Should I have called the bank when a pipe burst?  With the way you think it's 'their' pipe and not mine.  Same for the tree that cost me $400 to get cut down lest its dying self smashed my house.

I pay for it, I pay the property taxes, I pay for the upkeep....face it you whiny biatch, it's MINE and I can do whatever I want with the property.

As a matter of fact, I may cut down a random tree in my yard just to do it.  I'll find the one with the most squirrel nests.  BECAUSE I CAN.

/Nah, love my damn squirrels.
2014-01-21 02:09:23 AM  
1 votes:

Brainsick: You think that's bad? My asshole neighbor (who moved in AFTER I was already here) tore down a historic shed in his backyard. When I complained that now he could see me in the altogether, he called me a stoner and suggested I was stealing from other neighbors! What a douche...


Considering he is in jail for stealing, drugging and violating his parole; your trolling is invalid.
2014-01-21 02:09:22 AM  
1 votes:

tomerson: Asa Phelps: Stopped reading at "my landlord".

Stopped reading at "progressive city'.

Off the top of my head: Honolulu, Seattle, Boulder, Portland, San Fransisco, San Jose, and many more are all magnitudes more progressive than Boston.


San Francisco has better chowder.
2014-01-21 01:23:07 AM  
1 votes:

bikkurikun: six-n-tombstone:

The D*bag in the article is a renter, if having no trees to look at offends him soooooo much then he can move out at the end of his lease and go live in the woods. He has no permanent residence there.

Define permanent. Especially in residential areas, houses get bought and sold all the time. My parents could never afford to buy a house, but lived in the same neighbourhood all their lives, and were active in the community.  I have owned property since I got out of college, yet I've sold, moved and bought new property 5 times since then and never cared much about become active and involved in the community I lived in.  Who is a more permanent resident and who is more invested in the community?

Unless you own an estate that has been in your family for generations, most property owners in residential areas don't live in the same house for more than 20 years.  So if there is a hundreds of years old tree on your property that makes the community as a whole a nicer place, you shouldn't have the right to cut it down just because you 'own' the property for a number of years.


Since whatever Euros you have in your wallet right now will eventually be spent on something, just go ahead and give half to me now.  For community.
2014-01-21 01:22:15 AM  
1 votes:
Hey! I voted for that lady once.

Really don't have much else to say except.... as someone who lived in that neighborhood for 7 years, I'm not at all surprised by this guy or his complaint.

www.rebekahgewirtz.org
2014-01-21 01:20:52 AM  
1 votes:
Mr T would not approve of this foo bloggers jiba jabber
2014-01-21 01:18:14 AM  
1 votes:
www.aarondunlap.com
"You can't OWN property, man!"
2014-01-21 01:17:57 AM  
1 votes:
Just be very careful...

satiro.es
2014-01-21 01:11:48 AM  
1 votes:
If I was this guy's neighbour, I'd be finding ways to deliberately piss him off and make him move. What an asshole.
2014-01-21 01:09:17 AM  
1 votes:

KillerAttackParrot: TuteTibiImperes: I'm thinking about putting up a decorative stone circle and some mulch around the base so that they realize I have a claim to it.
No. No. No. Just go pee on it every morning. Much more manly.


if you do a couple of animal sacrifices under it, it will keep bad spirits away from the tree and the tree will send pleasant breezes your way. Plus your neighbors will never say a word to you again, so win-win.
2014-01-21 01:09:05 AM  
1 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: It's typical toddler cat reasoning - If I can see it, it's mine.

2014-01-21 12:32:13 AM  
1 votes:

mikeray: Marmilman: mikeray: Hell the way it is trending in this country he will be able to marry his neighbors tree soon.

TIMMMMAYYYYYYYY

Hey I can joke about that subject, my boyfriend is gay.


But is he a tree?
2014-01-21 12:28:05 AM  
1 votes:

Three Crooked Squirrels: Keep in mind when bashing HOAs: This is why some people like HOAs.


This is why I live in an wonderfully landscaped HOA where our parks and green spaces preserved some of the old growth, and commonly MAINTAIN them.
2014-01-21 12:27:07 AM  
1 votes:
...it did the whole neighborhood a service by concealing the front facade of the guy's house, which -- there's no polite way of putting this -- is one of the ugliest and tackiest house on the block. I do not find aesthetically pleasing.

Interesting. I found a polite way of putting it.
2014-01-21 12:23:52 AM  
1 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: And if you read to the very end, you learn that he's a renter.  He has no investment it the neighborhood.  He's just another entitled little shiat who thinks the world exists to suit him.

What an asshole.


Oh, so he's a libtard?
2014-01-21 12:13:31 AM  
1 votes:
I guarandamntee you this guy is a lifelong liberal
2014-01-21 12:10:21 AM  
1 votes:
Keep in mind when bashing HOAs: This is why some people like HOAs.
2014-01-20 11:46:00 PM  
1 votes:

mikeray: Hell the way it is trending in this country he will be able to marry his neighbors tree soon.


TIMMMMAYYYYYYYY
2014-01-20 11:43:12 PM  
1 votes:

what_now: We invented Fluff and the necco waver.


Yuck.
2014-01-20 11:27:04 PM  
1 votes:
I really like large trees.  One of the reasons I bought the house I did was because it has a couple huge oaks on it.

The one in the rear is on my property, but just barely.  When a new family moved into the house whose property borders it and started removing a lot of the vegetation, I was worried they might think the tree was theirs and try to do something to it.  I thought about going over, but 'Welcome to the neighborhood - don't touch my tree' didn't sound neighborly in my head.

Thankfully they didn't mess with it, but I still feel I need to do something to mark it as mine to keep something from happening to it in the future, especially since it stands outside of my fence (which was there before I moved in).

I'm thinking about putting up a decorative stone circle and some mulch around the base so that they realize I have a claim to it.
2014-01-20 10:49:48 PM  
1 votes:
Stopped reading at "my landlord".
2014-01-20 10:49:31 PM  
1 votes:
And if you read to the very end, you learn that he's a renter.  He has no investment it the neighborhood.  He's just another entitled little shiat who thinks the world exists to suit him.

What an asshole.
 
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