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2014-01-20 08:31:53 PM
Well, they do have a first round pick to trade that they only had to give up Trent Richardson for, so, if they basically just are able to trade that and another pick for Manziel.... wouldn't be the worst trade in the world.
 
2014-01-20 08:37:42 PM
Could be worse. I read the headline and thought they must have hired Wade Phillips as head coach.
 
2014-01-20 08:54:33 PM
I'd try and claim this headline was ripped from my comment at the end of the Browns-Patriots game, but I'm sure it's been said a thousand times before elsewhere.

\so when is jersey name guy going to run out of height to fit another name on it?
 
2014-01-20 08:54:47 PM
FFS STOP TRYING TO BUILD THE RAMS INTO A SUPERPOWER, NFL! WE ALREADY HAVE THE BEST DIVISION IN THE LEAGUE!
 
2014-01-20 08:55:53 PM

FriarReb98: I'd try and claim this headline was ripped from my comment at the end of the Browns-Patriots game, but I'm sure it's been said a thousand times before elsewhere.

\so when is jersey name guy going to run out of height to fit another name on it?


Well, they could start a new one with Manziel, but then they're going to run out of space for names quickly

/because he's short
//says the guy whose QB is Russell Wilson
 
2014-01-20 09:06:54 PM
 
2014-01-20 09:11:35 PM
It must be tough on draft day knowing that if you're really good and likely to go high you have an excellent chance of going to the Browns. Most people aspire to a long, prosperous Hall of Fame career, not backup status after the first contract is up and crippling pain from all the hits in the first 5 years of their career.

I often envy football players their money and fame. I will never envy a Browns quarterback either of those. He earns every bit of it.
 
2014-01-20 10:20:49 PM
The fact is that exactly zero people on the planet actually know whether or not  this guy will suck, be avg, be good or be great as a pro.
 
2014-01-20 10:31:36 PM

bronyaur1: The fact is that exactly zero people on the planet actually know whether or not  this guy will suck, be avg, be good or be great as a pro.


While under ordinary circumstances you would be right, if he goes to Cleveland the outcome is very predictable. Even if we go back to pre-"suspended operations", the last QB they had that performed at a high level was Bernie Kosar. Cleveland is where quarterbacks go to die.
 
2014-01-20 11:20:07 PM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Cleveland is where quarterbacks go to die.


usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com

The one who escaped his doom:
russellstreetreport.com
 
2014-01-20 11:45:01 PM
RUN JOHNNY RUN
 
2014-01-20 11:51:16 PM
If a quarterback ever does lead Cleveland to the promised land and a Lombardi trophy he will be a god. God of Cleveland, but a god nonetheless
 
2014-01-20 11:58:12 PM
At what point do Goodell and the other owners hold an intervention?  This is downright self-destructive.
 
2014-01-21 12:04:46 AM
Please do so, Cleveland.  I'm getting tired of the rest of the Raider fans clamoring for this guy.

/Seriously, none of the Raider WR's could have been his third option this last year at A&M.
 
2014-01-21 12:13:00 AM

mikaloyd: If a quarterback ever does lead Cleveland to the promised land and a Lombardi trophy he will be a god. God of Cleveland, but a god nonetheless


It would be like how Brees became king of New Orleans after they won the Super Bowl
 
2014-01-21 12:14:03 AM

mikaloyd: If a quarterback ever does lead Cleveland to the promised land and a Lombardi trophy he will be a god. God of Cleveland, but a god nonetheless


Leading the Browns to the SB would be instant HOF even if just a very good QB numberwise. It's the major thing that kept McNabb out in Philly. They win the Pats-Eagles SB, and he gets enough of a bump to move from Hall of very good to HOF because he'd be the guy who got the Eagles a SB.

Mind you, the Browns have been boring with their teasing the fans lately. They need a QB who ALMOST gets them to the playoffs, doesn't resign and wins the title the following year. Step up your game Browns
 
2014-01-21 12:18:00 AM

ongbok: mikaloyd: If a quarterback ever does lead Cleveland to the promised land and a Lombardi trophy he will be a god. God of Cleveland, but a god nonetheless

It would be like how Brees became king of New Orleans after they won the Super Bowl


Indeed. Drew Brees will never have to buy himself a beer in New Orleans. I mean he probably does buy his own beers, but he doesnt have to.
 
2014-01-21 12:22:00 AM
Two rock gods:

static.guim.co.uk

/Weeden is still on the Browns roster, right?
 
2014-01-21 12:38:35 AM
Phew. I thought they hired Norv Turner.
 
2014-01-21 12:46:17 AM

bronyaur1: The fact is that exactly zero people on the planet actually know whether or not  this guy will suck, be avg, be good or be great as a pro.


You can say that about every single player in the draft. Yet, I assume the pros will continue to fund scouting departments to try to make an educated guess about whether a particular player will be good, average or suck.

Instead of just drafting random people because hey you never know right?
 
2014-01-21 12:46:34 AM
Well... we could do worse.  I like Johnny Football though, if only because his game isn't entirely based on skill.  We've tried the drafting based on skill... and it hasn't worked.  I don't know if Manziel will be a successful NFL quarterback, but whatever happens will be interesting.  I tend to agree with whoever said he is like another Doug Flutie.   I believe Doug Flutie said that.
 
2014-01-21 12:56:56 AM

js34603: bronyaur1: The fact is that exactly zero people on the planet actually know whether or not  this guy will suck, be avg, be good or be great as a pro.

You can say that about every single player in the draft. Yet, I assume the pros will continue to fund scouting departments to try to make an educated guess about whether a particular player will be good, average or suck.

Instead of just drafting random people because hey you never know right?


With the Browns? Im pretty sure drafting random quarterbacks from a list of draft-able quarterbacks would have netted at least as good a result the past 20 years as they have gotten from their scouting and analysis.
 
2014-01-21 01:07:39 AM

Triumph: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Cleveland is where quarterbacks go to die.

[usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com image 630x630]

The one who escaped his doom:
[russellstreetreport.com image 300x227]


Sakes alive, that list is going to hit the ground soon.
 
2014-01-21 01:13:18 AM
Taking the Browns to the Super Bowl is my favorite euphemism for taking a shiat
 
2014-01-21 01:20:29 AM
The guy has a bad attitude and he has a more macho mentality than an intelligent one, which causes him to try and run first and make the play himself, when he should throw the ball away or slide. He is another RGIII waiting to happen. Good luck with that Cleaveland.

\Happy to have a QB for my team with a good attitude and brains, Russel Wilson!
\\XLVIII bound!
\\\slashies!
 
2014-01-21 01:25:30 AM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: bronyaur1: The fact is that exactly zero people on the planet actually know whether or not  this guy will suck, be avg, be good or be great as a pro.

While under ordinary circumstances you would be right, if he goes to Cleveland the outcome is very predictable. Even if we go back to pre-"suspended operations", the last QB they had that performed at a high level was Bernie Kosar. Cleveland is where quarterbacks go to die.


And Georgia is where other QB's go to rape. Allegedly. I'm sure yellow towels make great ball gags, to keep anyone from hearing the word NO being repeated over and over. Allegedly.
 
2014-01-21 01:30:49 AM

aNihilV10L8tr: Adolf Oliver Nipples: bronyaur1: The fact is that exactly zero people on the planet actually know whether or not  this guy will suck, be avg, be good or be great as a pro.

While under ordinary circumstances you would be right, if he goes to Cleveland the outcome is very predictable. Even if we go back to pre-"suspended operations", the last QB they had that performed at a high level was Bernie Kosar. Cleveland is where quarterbacks go to die.

And Georgia is where other QB's go to rape. Allegedly. I'm sure yellow towels make great ball gags, to keep anyone from hearing the word NO being repeated over and over. Allegedly.


www.globalnerdy.com
 
2014-01-21 01:56:50 AM
If St. Louis fleeces another team to trade multiple picks again my head is going to farking explode.  How farking stupid are these assholes that they can be fleeced by Kroenke-marts?  How did these fark-ups get that much money in the first place?
 
2014-01-21 01:58:18 AM
Whoever we draft i'd put money on being a bust. It just always seems to work out that way. If we do end up getting someone worth a shiat they'll just blow their acl, wipe on a motorcycle, get staph, or some other such bs.

/yeah, I know I sound like just another bitter ass browns fan, because I am.
//bitterness is all we have left
 
2014-01-21 02:09:48 AM

thekingcobra: Whoever we draft i'd put money on being a bust. It just always seems to work out that way. If we do end up getting someone worth a shiat they'll just blow their acl, wipe on a motorcycle, get staph, or some other such bs.

/yeah, I know I sound like just another bitter ass browns fan, because I am.
//bitterness is all we have left


if it's any consolation that bitterness shows you still have a soul.  A sad pea sized crushed soul but a soul none the less.
 
2014-01-21 02:10:06 AM

elguerodiablo: If St. Louis fleeces another team to trade multiple picks again my head is going to farking explode.  How farking stupid are these assholes that they can be fleeced by Kroenke-marts?  How did these fark-ups get that much money in the first place?


Oh, and to quickly answer your last question, the FBI was wondering the same thing about Haslem. I'm sure we'll all find out soon enough how he got his cash.
 
2014-01-21 02:11:31 AM

js34603: bronyaur1: The fact is that exactly zero people on the planet actually know whether or not  this guy will suck, be avg, be good or be great as a pro.

You can say that about every single player in the draft. Yet, I assume the pros will continue to fund scouting departments to try to make an educated guess about whether a particular player will be good, average or suck.

Instead of just drafting random people because hey you never know right?


Random drafting would probably be a big improvement for a lot of teams.
 
2014-01-21 02:16:02 AM

thekingcobra: elguerodiablo: If St. Louis fleeces another team to trade multiple picks again my head is going to farking explode.  How farking stupid are these assholes that they can be fleeced by Kroenke-marts?  How did these fark-ups get that much money in the first place?

Oh, and to quickly answer your last question, the FBI was wondering the same thing about Haslem. I'm sure we'll all find out soon enough how he got his cash.


Ripping off truckers it looks like.  Not as admirable as Snyders telemarketing empire but still pretty cool.
 
2014-01-21 02:43:40 AM

karmaceutical: Well... we could do worse.  I like Johnny Football though, if only because his game isn't entirely based on skill.  We've tried the drafting based on skill... and it hasn't worked.  I don't know if Manziel will be a successful NFL quarterback, but whatever happens will be interesting.  I tend to agree with whoever said he is like another Doug Flutie.   I believe Doug Flutie said that.


He's Doug Flutie, Fran Tarkenton and Brent Farve rolled into one.

/I kind of want Houston to draft him.
//But Bridgewater is too damn good to pass up
///So we'll draft Clowney or Bortles
 
2014-01-21 02:45:31 AM

Oldiron_79: Taking the Browns to the Super Bowl is my favorite euphemism for taking a shiat


"Logging out" is highly underappreciated.
 
2014-01-21 02:58:40 AM

Oldiron_79: Taking the Browns to the Super Bowl is my favorite euphemism for taking a shiat


There's a Zombie Otto Graham joke here somewhere, but damned if I'm touching it.
 
2014-01-21 03:19:51 AM

HaywoodJablonski: Oldiron_79: Taking the Browns to the Super Bowl is my favorite euphemism for taking a shiat

"Logging out" is highly underappreciated.


paintin' the town brown is a fun grandiloquence for explosive diarrhea.

And a collection of live Ween songs.
 
2014-01-21 03:24:03 AM

elguerodiablo: HaywoodJablonski: Oldiron_79: Taking the Browns to the Super Bowl is my favorite euphemism for taking a shiat

"Logging out" is highly underappreciated.

paintin' the town brown is a fun grandiloquence for explosive diarrhea.

And a collection of live Ween songs.


Why are you listening to songs about cock?????????
 
2014-01-21 03:29:53 AM

ongbok: elguerodiablo: HaywoodJablonski: Oldiron_79: Taking the Browns to the Super Bowl is my favorite euphemism for taking a shiat

"Logging out" is highly underappreciated.

paintin' the town brown is a fun grandiloquence for explosive diarrhea.

And a collection of live Ween songs.

Why are you listening to songs about cock?????????


Why aren't you?
 
2014-01-21 03:48:19 AM

Triumph: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Cleveland is where quarterbacks go to die.

[usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com image 630x630]

The one who escaped his doom:
[russellstreetreport.com image 300x227]


Er, um, Dilfer got his trophy before he went to Cleveland.
 
2014-01-21 03:52:20 AM

FriarReb98: I'd try and claim this headline was ripped from my comment at the end of the Browns-Patriots game, but I'm sure it's been said a thousand times before elsewhere.


Hell, I got a GL with the saying last year...ripped from a comment at the end of one of the Browns games.
 
2014-01-21 04:35:11 AM
oh, hilarious. probably not in cleveland, but i still love you baby.

/ where's colt?
// seriously, draft oline first
 
2014-01-21 04:55:30 AM
They should hire Darrell Bevell as coach.
 
2014-01-21 05:00:22 AM

IAmRight: FFS STOP TRYING TO BUILD THE RAMS INTO A SUPERPOWER, NFL! WE ALREADY HAVE THE BEST DIVISION IN THE LEAGUE!


No, I want the Rams to be a superpower, damnit! That way STL will have to sit and suffer for years, when the Rams move back to LA after next season.

/Should have upgraded the Ed, STL.
 
2014-01-21 05:04:31 AM

IlGreven: Triumph: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Cleveland is where quarterbacks go to die.

[usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com image 630x630]

The one who escaped his doom:
[russellstreetreport.com image 300x227]

Er, um, Dilfer got his trophy before he went to Cleveland.


Yeah, but he's the only one on the list who didn't fade into obscurity.
 
2014-01-21 05:10:52 AM

elguerodiablo: If St. Louis fleeces another team to trade multiple picks again my head is going to farking explode.  How farking stupid are these assholes that they can be fleeced by Kroenke-marts?


If teams are willing to trade up, we'll be happy to take a few extra picks, to beef up our team. It's pretty simple, we need players in multiple areas, and they need a superstar QB. Fair trade.

That said, when the Pats do it, Bellichick is a genius, but when the Rams do it, we're somehow "fleecing" the other team? Fark that! I'm looking forward to us trading out of the #2 pick, and getting three or more players for that one pick that we really don't need.
 
2014-01-21 08:04:00 AM
Well, I don't like the guy, but I think Cleveland needs to make some big moves.  Their defense is pretty awesome, and they just need a few pieces on offense.  I know people say it's a tough division, but it's really not:  Cincy is flawed and inconsistent, Pittsburgh is getting old, and, yes, the Ravens won the SB last year, but they've been losing a lot of those players left and right just to keep the guy who was probably least responsible for their success.  Cleveland can flip from 4th to 2nd or 1st with the right moves.
 
2014-01-21 08:24:24 AM
1. 1954. The Catch. The great Willie Mays runs down a 420 shot to center field in sensational fashion preserving a 2-2 tie. Giants go on to sweep the world series.
2. 1976. Jim Chones breaks his foot in practice, cavs sunk in playoffs.
3. 1981. Red Right 88. Even though they were in field goal range (13 yard line) for a winning kick, Sipe tosses an interception in the end zone, Browns loose 14-12. Raiders go on to win the Super Bowl.
4. 1987. The Drive. 98 yard drive by Elway (including a 3rd and 18 conversion) tied the game with 37 seconds left. Browns lose in overtime. The legend of Elway is born.
5. 1988. The Fumble.  With 1:12 left in the game, running back Earnest Byner appeared to be on his way to score the game-tying touchdown, but lost a fumble at the 3-yard line.  Byner traded to Washington the next year and wins a super bowl for them.
6. 1989. The Shot. Micheal Jordan's iconic shot at the buzzer in game 5. The legend of Jordan is born.
7. 1993 Cleveland Indians pitchers Steve Olin and Tim Crews die in a tragic boating accident.
8. 1994. Brad Daugherty career ended because of back problems at 26.
9. 1994. The Indians finally have a winning record that would have qualified for the playoffs for the first time in 40 years. The season ended with a strike.
10. 1995. Indians lose the World Series to Atlanta in 6 games.
11. 1996. Best record in baseball, lose to Baltimore in 4 games.
12. 1996. Browns and Art Modell leave Cleveland and move to Baltimore.
13. 1997. World Series, game 7. Indians have the lead in the bottom of the ninth with 2 outs when Jose Mesa(1.12 ERA 46 saves) falls apart on the mound and lets the Marlins tie the game. In the bottom of the 11th, 4 time gold glove winner and 5 time all-star Tony Fernadez(.978 fielding %) muffs a sure double play.  Edgar Rentería ended the game with a single.
14. 1999. Browns back in Cleveland. Draft Tim Couch 1st overall.  Draft bust.
15. 2000. Browns draft Courney Brown 1st overall.  Draft bust.
16. 2001. Browns draft Gerard Warren 3rd overall.  Draft bust.
17. 2001. The Ravens and Art Modell win the Super Bowl for Baltimore.
18. 2002. Browns draft William Green 16th overall.  Alcoholic Draft bust.
19. 2002. New Browns finally make the playoffs and have a 22 point 4th quarter lead against Pittsburgh and lose.
20. 2003. Browns draft Jeff Faine 21st overall, Traded to saints where he becomes a probowl center.
21. 2004. Browns draft Kellen Winslow. 2 games into season he breaks his leg. Lost for year.
22. 2005. Kellen winslow blows his knee out in a motorcycle accident, lost for the year.
23. 2005. Browns draft Braylon Edwards 3rd overall. Blows knee out, lost for the year.
24. 2006. LeCharles Bentley, top rated free agent signs huge contract with Cleveland.  During the first play of the first practice he tore his patellar tendon and ended his career.
25. 2007. Cavs get swept in Finals.
26. 2007 Indians have a 3 games to 1 ALCS lead on Red Sox.  They lose the last three games.
27. 2007 Browns give up a 2007 2nd round pick and 2008 1st round pick to select QB Brady Quinn.
28. 2008-2009. Cleveland trades not one, but 2 Cy young winners(CC Sabathia and Cliff Lee) Both pitchers meet each other in the world series. (New York vs Philly)
29. 2009. Cavs roll in playoffs, stopped by Orlando.
30. 2010. Best record in NBA.  Lose to  Celtics.
31. 2010 The Decision.   Lebron leaves Cleveland for Miami.
32. 2013 Browns bought by Jim Haslam Jr. He is now under ethics and tax fraud investigation.
33. 2013 Browns have a 26-13 lead with 1:03 remaining on the patriots and lose 27-26
34. 2013 Browns fire Rob Chudzinski after one year and a 4-12 season.
 
2014-01-21 08:37:29 AM

MmmmBacon: elguerodiablo: If St. Louis fleeces another team to trade multiple picks again my head is going to farking explode.  How farking stupid are these assholes that they can be fleeced by Kroenke-marts?

If teams are willing to trade up, we'll be happy to take a few extra picks, to beef up our team. It's pretty simple, we need players in multiple areas, and they need a superstar QB. Fair trade.

That said, when the Pats do it, Bellichick is a genius, but when the Rams do it, we're somehow "fleecing" the other team? Fark that! I'm looking forward to us trading out of the #2 pick, and getting three or more players for that one pick that we really don't need.


I would love for the Rams to trade back with the Browns.  Rams could probably still get Sammy Watkins at the #4 pick and then get a OL or S with the #13 pick.  Plus we would add at least another 2nd or 3rd round pick for much needed depth.

/Of course this all depends on what Houston does.
 
2014-01-21 08:44:48 AM

ltdanman44: 12. 1996. Browns and Art Modell leave Cleveland and move to Baltimore.


And for a few glorious seasons Cleveland fans got to watch a real 1:00 game every week.
 
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