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(New York Magazine)   Every time you use your SodaStream you are drinking blood bubbles. That's right. BLOOD BUBBLES   (nymag.com) divider line 53
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2014-01-20 08:34:38 PM
5 votes:
Really?  This sort of thing actually pisses people off?  I give up.

/has a sodastream
//awesome device
2014-01-20 10:27:05 PM
4 votes:
Really? I thought they were CO2 bubbles.

But seriously, take my wife. Please! (rimshot)

OK. So SodaStream is an Israeli company.

And Malcolm in the Middle was produced by a company owned by an Israeli arms dealer who worked closely with apartheid South Africa and other shady characters. (You may not have known that.) But I love Katy Segal's voice (aka Leila of Futurama).

As much as I despise knee-jerk support for Israel, I am prepared to acknowledge they have a right to exist as much as the Palestinians do. Perhaps not as a helot military occupation like Ancient Sparta or not-so-ancient Twentieth Century Apartheid White South Africa, but as part of a two-state solution, yes.

Seeing as the adjective "blood" applies to the products of slave labour, looting, rape, torture, genocide, and murder in failed states in Africa, I think it might be over-blown or misapplied to a factory in the West Bank. I know those Israeli bastards are cunning and wicked, but they aren't forcing starving homosexual sex slaves to make designer gowns at bayonet point. That would be the Russians. (I keed, I keed, because I love.)

Is the logic of boycotting SodaStream the same as the logic of boycotting blood diamonds from the Congo or Sun City? Do the facts support this logic?

The SodaStream plant in the West Bank is one of 20 around the world, so the impact of the boycott on Paletinanian workers is likely to be slight. The old "but South African blacks depend on those jobs" argument is feeble in such a case, since there are 19 non-victims (presumably) for every supposed victim of Israeli capitalism.

(I'm getting my facts from Alarabiya.net:  http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/2014/01/21/Boycott-of-Israel-s-S o daStream-may-affect-Palestinian-workers.html ).

There are 900 Palestinians employed at the West Bank plant.

The company produced a video that claims that the employees have relatively high pay (four times that available elsewhere in the West Bank) and health and social benefits, etc. An anonymous employee is quoted as saying the Palestinian workers feel like slaves and occupied people.

Who knows? I'm guessing the Israeli propaganda at least gets its numbers and facts straight. But gilded chains are still chains, so what are you going to do?

Scarlett Johansson , who is also a spokesperson for Oxfam, is "media ambassador" for the company and thus has come under criticism by the boycotters.

While I was a critic of the South Africa regime and its supporters, I don't see that boycotts are a very delicate or useful tool for protest. Too many people like a good product at a good price and even an effective boycott is a bit scattershot. On the other hands, boycotts do get media attention and sometimes press on the economic levers of even powerful and rich targets. The original Boycott was an absentee landlord in Ireland whose tenants refused to pay rents. He's famously infamous so boycotts must sometimes accomplish something.

But here's a question:  are there any substitutes for the product in question? Indubitably: Coca Cola and Pepsi, for example. Unless you are boycotting them and all their sister companies. You should probably be boycotting bottled water in general. The poor are forced to pay through the nose for clean potable water while the rich get it almost free through every tap in their massive monster homes. Water is cheap--unless you are poor, in which case it is Unobtanium.

Just thinking out loud folks. I'm not going to tell you what to do, although donations would be welcome at many of the great humanitarian and developmental aid organizations in this crazy, sad, mixed-up confusing world.
2014-01-20 09:02:04 PM
4 votes:

iPad I will never want to say " ducking " you stupid twat!!!!

2014-01-20 10:26:34 PM
3 votes:
I've decided, after hearing just about all I care to hear from both sides of the Israel/Palestine thingy, that anyone* who gives one wet fart about the Israel/Palestine thingy is a flaming asshole. I heve never heard anyone have an opinion about it that isn't hopelessly colored by whatever ideology they fondle.

IT'S A farkING DESERT, PEOPLE! THERE IS NO GOD; THERE IS NO HOLY LAND! YOU ARE HALLUCINATING YOUR PHILOSOPHY! SHUT THE fark UP AND GET ALONG, YOU CHILDISH DOUCHEBAGS!

*With the exception of Roger Waters, who really dished it out to both sides at the UN.
2014-01-20 10:17:55 PM
3 votes:
This kind of crap is for people with absolutely nothing to do. You can buy generic store-brand club soda at any grocery store for pennies per glass. If you entertain a lot and want to save even more time, you can get a real soda fountain setup and commercial CO2 canisters like they have in every bar and restaurant in the civilized world, then just push the button on the gun. No pretentious douchebaggery involved.
2014-01-20 10:11:26 PM
3 votes:

whatshisname: namatad: number of countries in the world which are currently occupied by their original inhabitants: ZERO

There's a few African countries which might qualify. Ethiopia for one. It's never been colonized or conquered. I guess it depends how far you go back for "original".


www.holocaustresearchproject.org

LOLWUT

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Italo-Ethiopian_War

But yeah, I suppose there aren't a lot of pizzerias in Addis Ababa.  The trains probably don't run on time, either.
2014-01-20 10:03:24 PM
3 votes:

namatad: number of countries in the world which are currently occupied by their original inhabitants: ZERO


There's a few African countries which might qualify. Ethiopia for one. It's never been colonized or conquered. I guess it depends how far you go back for "original".
2014-01-20 09:47:49 PM
3 votes:
SodaStream is an Israeli company with a manufacturing plant in occupied territory in the West Bank, a fact that enrages a politically informed, far-left segment of the liberal-yuppie demographic the product is marketed to.

Who then get so mad they blog about it on their handcrafted artisan-probably-Navajo-made iPads which are totally not made by slave labor in the far east.
2014-01-20 09:00:42 PM
3 votes:

"Enjoy your Palestinian blood cocktails," the left-wing reporter said to the vodka drinkers.



Bullshiat. I live in Somerville MA, and my soda stream came from an apartment of academics, and artists in Harvard farking Square, and no one has ever said anything like that.

One person we know doesn't have one because he doesn't like the company's politics, but no one I have ever met- and I was once in a vegan lesbian book club with people who used their own menstrwl blood as plant fertilizer- would say such a ducking thing.
2014-01-20 08:25:27 PM
3 votes:
meh
if you live in america you are drinking indian tears ... get over it

/number of countries in the world which are currently occupied by their original inhabitants: ZERO
2014-01-20 11:52:04 PM
2 votes:
"Blood bubbles," someone called them. Defending herself, the hostess said the machine had been a gift.

Well, that's one way to respond to that accusation.

Another would be to say "Get the fark out of my home RIGHT NOW, you asshole. I invite you to my party and this is how you see fit to behave?  Take your farking flat-ass water and pour it up your ass, you rude piece of shiat."
2014-01-20 10:29:59 PM
2 votes:

Parthenogenetic: I would like to point out that you neglected to include the cost of the most important ingredient:

[i.imgur.com image 250x188]


I typically prefer my seltzer plain, but if I am going to flavor it with tears, I prefer either


home.roadrunner.com

or

4.bp.blogspot.com .
2014-01-20 10:22:58 PM
2 votes:

jst3p: I have been thinking of buying one, any farkers want to say yea or nay?

Difficulty: I only drink diet soda and find most of them to taste nasty.

Diet coke, diet dew and diet dr pepper are OK.


I have one and I love it. The biggest issue is the initial cost. You can get around that by snagging an old machine plus a couple of empty bottles for $30 or so on Amazon. Take the canisters into a Bed Bath and Beyond to swap them out for about $25 (50-60 liters of carbonation) each. Then buy the individual flavors that you want. Around Memorial Day (start of wedding season), BB&B usually does a tasting demo with Best Buy. Ask the sales people when the rep last came in and estimate about 6-8 months between visits. If you get there and it's a low crowd, you can ask for some diet flavors to give a go.

I used to work in a home housewares/kitchen gadget store and we sold those things. I was damn good at selling/demoing the farkers.

The pros are it's easy to use and extremely simple if you're not picky about taste.
The cons are long term necessity to begin to see your (very small) return on investment and non-dishwasher safe bottles. Neither are deal breakers.

Mixing various flavors (like orange and cream soda or the grape kool aid + diet lemon lime) get some pretty good results. I found that diet lemon lime is basically sprite and it mixes well with any "fruit" flavor. The regular cola isn't bad, but the large bottle "natural" cola (unprocessed cane sugar rather than processed cane sugar - thus requiring more syrup is pretty damn close to Coca Cola. I like mine, and treat it like a great toy, but I'm a fat guy with a sugar vice.
2014-01-20 10:12:24 PM
2 votes:
Last year 39 Palestinians died by Israeli forces directly.  Six Israeli's died by Palestinian attacks.

Don't most US cities have higher murder rates than this?
2014-01-20 10:10:14 PM
2 votes:
There's no hate like liberal hate.
2014-01-20 10:09:51 PM
2 votes:

jst3p: I have been thinking of buying one, any farkers want to say yea or nay?

Difficulty: I only drink diet soda and find most of them to taste nasty.

Diet coke, diet dew and diet dr pepper are OK.


I looked into getting one a while back, my conclusion was it was way more expensive than buying soda in 2 liter bottles. Around here Coke goes on sale regularly at $1.25 - $1.50 and store brand typically sell for $0.89. The problem with soda stream is, you're not getting name brand soda so it's more appropriately compared to store brands. The thing is, you have to buy the syrup, CO2 and even the plastic bottles from them.

I drink diet Coke but recently I've been buying Walmart's Sams Choice diet cola, it's not exactly Coke but for 89 cents I'll live with it.
2014-01-20 10:09:41 PM
2 votes:

jaytkay: PC LOAD LETTER: Are they actually setting up a sweatshop in the West Bank or is this just a "ZOMG IZRALI COMPANY AND PALESTEENEEN WORKERS MEANS SLAVERY!!"

The company is in a Jewish settlement on the West Bank. They're displacing Palestinians, not hiring them.


Since I don't know who I have a bigger problem with between the two I am not sure how this information affects my desire to have one.
2014-01-20 10:06:11 PM
2 votes:

ajgeek: Shostie: People still use those things? I thought they all got regifted.

I modified mine to take standard CO2 containers. One advantage of being an engineer who knows his way around a machine shop without getting himself killed.

/It's a LOT cheaper than the syrupy stuff everyone else makes.
//customizable, lighter on the syrup, and now made with the blood of Palestinians, huzzah!


You are a rare breed. Most engineers I know can't find their asses with both hands, much less operate any kind of machinery more complicated than a dinner fork.
2014-01-20 09:58:00 PM
2 votes:

Shostie: People still use those things? I thought they all got regifted.


I modified mine to take standard CO2 containers. One advantage of being an engineer who knows his way around a machine shop without getting himself killed.

/It's a LOT cheaper than the syrupy stuff everyone else makes.
//customizable, lighter on the syrup, and now made with the blood of Palestinians, huzzah!
2014-01-21 01:43:17 AM
1 votes:

untaken_name: LaughingRadish: Anti-semitism is hatred of Jews.

There are many in scholarly circles who regard this usage as incorrect. Are you absolutely certain that you wish to side with cretins who can't even understand simple words? If all the morons around you started saying that left now means down would you go along with it? Even if you did, would you expect everyone who speaks English to suddenly agree that left now means down? Would you not understand that some would be resistant to misusing a word simply because total fools misuse it in large numbers? That is how language becomes meaningless.


I understand where you are coming from.  What the semitic peoples are is not relevant.  The term "anti-semitic" was invented to describe opposition and hatred of Jews.  I get the same irritation from the term "homophobia", which my mind parses into "fear of people".  But, eh, what can you do about it?
2014-01-21 01:11:28 AM
1 votes:

LaughingRadish: Anti-semitism is hatred of Jews.


There are many in scholarly circles who regard this usage as incorrect. Are you absolutely certain that you wish to side with cretins who can't even understand simple words? If all the morons around you started saying that left now means down would you go along with it? Even if you did, would you expect everyone who speaks English to suddenly agree that left now means down? Would you not understand that some would be resistant to misusing a word simply because total fools misuse it in large numbers? That is how language becomes meaningless.
2014-01-21 01:10:44 AM
1 votes:

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: I won't not buy it because it's made by an asshole company in an Apartheid territory. I won't buy it because it's stupid.


Enjoy your HFCS
2014-01-21 12:40:08 AM
1 votes:

PC LOAD LETTER: jonny_q: There's no hate like liberal hate.

Man that was so long ago, I forgot what alt-slinging tard said that.


You have to admire the economy of it, though. As far as the bites per syllable ratio it's up there with "Welcome to Obama's America, libs.".
2014-01-21 12:10:16 AM
1 votes:

ciberido: Pointy Tail of Satan: Do you know what you are drinking???? Carbonic acid!!!! CARBONIC ACID!!!

Let's not even mention the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide.


Holy shiat I wish that joke would die.  Have been reading it on the internet for about 20 years now.

Really... it's time to retire it.
2014-01-21 12:04:26 AM
1 votes:
OK. Interesting fact. Now explain why I should give two tugs of a dead dog's cock about it.
2014-01-20 11:53:01 PM
1 votes:
And, here's my own take on all this crapola:


If it's Not About the Jews... - ©2014 by Trevor Patrick

The keffiyeh-wearing activists all say:
that Anti-Zionism is not Anti-Semitism,
and that antipathy towards Israel,
is not REALLY about the Jews...

It's about the 'Illegitimate, Apartheid State',
that 'occupies' the entirety of Palestine,
and that ancient hatreds and blood-libels,
aren't the things that are shaping their views.

They say that their overarching care,
is for people living as prisoners in their own, stolen homeland,
and in ensuring that 'silenced' voices
are finally, at long last heard-

but the mounting inconsistencies in their message,
in talk as well as in deed,
are making some folks realise,
that their actions belie their words.

Because if it's not about the Jews,
why is Palestine such a cause-celebre,
when there's dozens of OTHER nations,
whose rightful citizens live as slaves?

And why then is Israel called an 'illegitimate' entity,
even though it was recognised by the UN,
and the vast majority of the world's nations:
most of them in 1948?

And if it's not about the Jews,
why do the activists insist on referring
to Jerusalem as 'Al Quds',
rather than using its proper, 5,000 year-old historical name?

If it's not about the Jews,
and it's all about the oppressed Palestinians,
what about the ones living in camps in neighbouring nations:
generations born on foreign soil,
but never allowed basic rights, citizenship,
or much less, a sense of place?

If it's not about the Jews,
why is there a double standard for the Israelis,
where protecting their safety
is called an act of genocide?

But every attack by Palestinians,
that succeeds in killing Israelis,
no matter what the context,
is ALWAYS justified?

Because if it was truly not about the Jews,
the activists would see the real truth,
that the BIGGEST victimisation of the Palestinians
is not from Israel-

but rather from their own fanatical leadership,
who don't want peace, but want every Jew dead,
and from all the other Arab nations
that use them as bargaining chips and pawns.

And if it's not about the Jews,
then maybe you should ask yourself:
can you stare in the mirror, and look yourself in the eyes-

when wherever you happen to live,
you're standing on land
that often YOUR ancestors
were the ones that seized and occupied?

And if it's not about the Jews,
would you live by your own standards,
and say that when the bus you're riding on is blown up,
you deserved to die-

that you have no intrinsic right to protect yourself,
in the land you've known from birth,
because your very citizenship
is based upon a lie?

If it's not about the Jews,
why then is Israel hated more
than any other so-called 'occupying power',
on the face of the Earth?

For example, no one's given a shiat since 1974,
about occupied Northern Cyprus:
A so-called 'country' that is recognised
by no one, but the occupying Turks.

And it's ALSO no longer trendy
unless you're Richard Gere,
to talk about China's continuing occupation
and cultural despoliation of Tibet;

because, after all, it wasn't dirty Jew-Gold,
that financed the forced 'liberation' of Lhasa,
and the Tibetans don't strap suicide bombs to their children,
or murder Chinese families in their beds.

But the Chinese occupiers
have single-handedly wiped-out
the centuries-old tradition of the Panchen Lama,
and will do the same to the Dalai Lama,
on the day he finally drops dead.

And if it's not about the Jews,
why am I supposed to boycott, divest and sanction against Soda-Stream,
but I'm crazy if I do the same against other companies,
whose nations have demonstrably occupied foreign territory,
and treat the people they've oppressed far worse yet?

Likewise, every African horror story,
that captures the public attention
for all of five minutes,
but then disappears like smoke,
as all other stories about oppressed brown people
so invariably do...

But Palestine has dominated the discourse,
and WILL continue to do so until Israel is destroyed,
because the plain and simple truth
is that it's ALWAYS been about the Jews.
2014-01-20 11:52:42 PM
1 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: Some people just don't like it when Israel is involved in something. These people are typically anti-Semites, but I'll give these libs the benefit of the doubt and just refer to them as anti-Zionists (IOW, anti-Semites).


It is possible that people look upon Israel in the same manner that they looked upon South Africa. It has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with the military dictatorship of a regional minority group over the majority.
2014-01-20 11:44:29 PM
1 votes:
I won't not buy it because it's made by an asshole company in an Apartheid territory. I won't buy it because it's stupid.
2014-01-20 10:51:55 PM
1 votes:

Parthenogenetic: But yeah, I suppose there aren't a lot of pizzerias in Addis Ababa. The trains probably don't run on time, either.


The Italians occupied Ethiopia for about 5 years. There's a  few decent Italian restaurants in Addis Ababa and spaghetti is the one of the more common western dishes on the menu. The excellent Ethiopian coffee has certainly benefited from the introduction of Italian coffee-making machines. There's one old train line from Addis to Harar and it's derelict. A new railway has just started construction.
2014-01-20 10:40:48 PM
1 votes:

what_now: and I was once in a vegan lesbian book club with people who used their own menstrwl blood as plant fertilizer


wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net
So what you're saying is that you were part of a Portlandia sketch before Portlandia existed/it went mainstream...
2014-01-20 10:32:40 PM
1 votes:
Who the fark cares?
2014-01-20 10:28:07 PM
1 votes:
How to use a regular CO2 tank with your soda stream.

http://co2doctorfreedomoneplusreview.blogspot.com/


Really good alternative flavor source

http://pittsburghsodapop.com
2014-01-20 10:26:12 PM
1 votes:
biatches when I was a kid we had to fart in the bathtub for carbonation
2014-01-20 10:24:27 PM
1 votes:

jaytkay: PC LOAD LETTER: Are they actually setting up a sweatshop in the West Bank or is this just a "ZOMG IZRALI COMPANY AND PALESTEENEEN WORKERS MEANS SLAVERY!!"

The company is in a Jewish settlement on the West Bank. They're displacing Palestinians, not hiring them.


Actually displacing them physically or "building on unoccupied land ceded to the Palestinian Authority that might one day be built upon by Palestinians". I mean the second is still a dick move, but there's a massive gulf between that and bulldozing buildings with babies inside or whatever. It's been a few years since the Israelis decided to plow down a neighborhood.
2014-01-20 10:23:33 PM
1 votes:

BunkoSquad: SodaStream is an Israeli company with a manufacturing plant in occupied territory in the West Bank, a fact that enrages a politically informed, far-left segment of the liberal-yuppie demographic the product is marketed to.

Who then get so mad they blog about it on their handcrafted artisan-probably-Navajo-made iPads which are totally not made by slave labor in the far east.


I wonder what it must feel like, to worry that much about where everything comes from. And how you reconcile that EVERYTHING you buy is soaked in the blood of innocents and powered by the soul of a forsaken child.

Maybe they just enjoy the feeling the pharisees must have had, being morally superior and yet morally inferior.
2014-01-20 10:22:47 PM
1 votes:
and most of the items you use every day, including your car, food, and anything you buy is made in shiathole factories by underpaid slave labor, or children in other countries such as China, Japan, india, ect. We wanted cheap, the world delivered. Get over it.
2014-01-20 10:22:36 PM
1 votes:
I was actually exposed to this machine for the very first time this weekend, while visiting some friends. Before yesterday I had no idea a magical machine such as that existed, and I was startled to see it pop up here on Fark the day after. Two points:

First of all, screw you subby! I got all nervous as I clicked the link because I drank a metric shiat-ton of that stuff over the weekend, and I though this was some health-risk thing. Well-played, bravo, all that jazz, but seriously, what the hell?

Secondly, in response to TFA, good! Grumpy cat-level good! I never feel really fulfilled by small convienence appliances until I know they were made at the suffering of others, strengthened by the tears of the oppressed! I was rather meh about the thing until I read this, but now it is on my must-buy list!

/I know absolutely nothing about the socio-political situation being discussed here
// wouldn't even be able to find it on a map
/// I assume these people are brown?
2014-01-20 10:20:26 PM
1 votes:

namatad: meh
if you live in america you are drinking indian tears ... get over it

Native American

tears, you insensitive clod!

That said:

Soda Stream: $80-130 or more, plus proprietary containers for the resultant product as well as proprietary 2-pound canisters of CO2.

DIY Seltzer: ~$150-200, including a standard 20lb tank of CO2 (which will damn near least you forever), and you can use any plastic bottle with a twist-on cap (i.e., re-use a 2-liter soda bottle).

Hurm. Choices....
2014-01-20 10:17:24 PM
1 votes:

talan123: Last year 39 Palestinians died by Israeli forces directly.  Six Israeli's died by Palestinian attacks.

Don't most US cities have higher murder rates than this?


Shooting And Stabbing In Baltimore Saturday; City Records 18th Homicide Of 2014
2014-01-20 10:15:22 PM
1 votes:

jst3p: I have been thinking of buying one, any farkers want to say yea or nay?

Difficulty: I only drink diet soda and find most of them to taste nasty.

Diet coke, diet dew and diet dr pepper are OK.


I only use the "Sparkling Naturals" line of Sodastream syrups or the Torani brand ones with real sugar. I never liked the Sucralose in the regular Sodastream syrups. If you're into diet, it might be for you.

And yes, I like my Sodastream very much. Using the SN Country Time lemonade syrup, I can either low-carb it to make a replica of Rondo, or full carb fizz to make it a Lemmy.

www.gunaxin.comwww.sodapopstop.com

Just keep in mind that the syrup can run about $6 - $10 for about 6 1-liter units of soda, and there's the gas cannisters of c02 to buy (fortunately, most stores that carry the gas cylinders will swap them out for half the regular price for a new full tank).

In other words, if you're a Super fat Ass that guzzles buckets of soda all day, this will get expensive. But if you only want soda once in a while, this is good. You really won't even need the syrup if all you want is sparkling water with some lemon juice in it. A little plastic lemon of juice is only what? Two bucks?
2014-01-20 10:14:28 PM
1 votes:

ReapTheChaos: jst3p: I have been thinking of buying one, any farkers want to say yea or nay?

Difficulty: I only drink diet soda and find most of them to taste nasty.

Diet coke, diet dew and diet dr pepper are OK.

I looked into getting one a while back, my conclusion was it was way more expensive than buying soda in 2 liter bottles. Around here Coke goes on sale regularly at $1.25 - $1.50 and store brand typically sell for $0.89. The problem with soda stream is, you're not getting name brand soda so it's more appropriately compared to store brands. The thing is, you have to buy the syrup, CO2 and even the plastic bottles from them.

I drink diet Coke but recently I've been buying Walmart's Sams Choice diet cola, it's not exactly Coke but for 89 cents I'll live with it.


New brass, 5lb co2 bottle from a local distributor, and use syrups from other sites.

I haven't calculated it, but I wager I can make cherry soda for less than cost than you can buy in a can.
2014-01-20 10:14:19 PM
1 votes:

talan123: Last year 39 Palestinians died by Israeli forces directly.  Six Israeli's died by Palestinian attacks.

Don't most US cities have higher murder rates than this?


The destruction of my neighborhood is not in the charter of the gang that lives a few blocks over.
2014-01-20 10:12:48 PM
1 votes:

jdbob: Read that article while sipping my SodaStream Diet Cranberry Raspberry.

I seem to recall that they were planning on building a syrup manufacturing plant in the states, but not 100% sure. Would miss the sweet taste of blood though..


Well they will probably use hicks in a red state that is hostile to unions so you might find that the blood bubbles of exploited rednecks is even tastier!
2014-01-20 10:09:02 PM
1 votes:

Shostie: People still use those things? I thought they all got regifted.


My wife likes it, and during the holidays it works great to make healthy fizzy drinks for the kids.

Bought an adapter so I could use a 5lb CO2 bottle. No, not because of the Israeli contention. Nope, it's just cheaper to use the machine. Couple bucks of brass, a new bottle from the local bulk distributor, and refills are a couple bucks in a regular soda CO2 bottle. The same kind of container you'd get for a small home soda dispenser.

http://co2doctor.com

Shameless plug for the brass I bought.
2014-01-20 10:08:40 PM
1 votes:
Article's author sounds whiny. Must be those Stoeffel genes goosestepping through her veins.

FYI, Sodastream hires a lot of Palestinians. Would Frau Stoeffel  want them to be unemployed?
2014-01-20 10:08:18 PM
1 votes:

PC LOAD LETTER: Are they actually setting up a sweatshop in the West Bank or is this just a "ZOMG IZRALI COMPANY AND PALESTEENEEN WORKERS MEANS SLAVERY!!"


The company is in a Jewish settlement on the West Bank. They're displacing Palestinians, not hiring them.
2014-01-20 10:06:14 PM
1 votes:
"A lefty journalist friend of mine in Tel Aviv has a machine he keeps under his kitchen sink so that he doesn't get embarrassed when other lefties come over for dinner,"

Who the heck actually talks like this?

"Boy, I'm so glad I'm a lefty.  I think I'll go hang out with my lefty friends at our lefty cafe and read lefty magazines while sipping lefty lattes.  Lefty."
2014-01-20 10:02:36 PM
1 votes:

bunner: They're marketed to the far left segment of the liberal-yuppie demographic?  Seriously?  Do these f*cking people actually exist anywhere but in a marketing major's term paper?




OH HAI!!!
2014-01-20 10:02:13 PM
1 votes:
Are they actually setting up a sweatshop in the West Bank or is this just a "ZOMG IZRALI COMPANY AND PALESTEENEEN WORKERS MEANS SLAVERY!!"
2014-01-20 10:01:49 PM
1 votes:
They're marketed to the far left segment of the liberal-yuppie demographic?  Seriously?  Do these f*cking people actually exist anywhere but in a marketing major's term paper?
2014-01-20 09:58:33 PM
1 votes:
Well that's why it tastes so good!
2014-01-20 09:45:36 PM
1 votes:
Tiny bubbles.(tiny bubbles)
In the blood (in the blood)

//My apologies
///Jesus tapdancing Christ, some people's kids...
2014-01-20 08:23:57 PM
1 votes:
People still use those things? I thought they all got regifted.
 
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