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(New York Magazine)   Every time you use your SodaStream you are drinking blood bubbles. That's right. BLOOD BUBBLES   (nymag.com) divider line 207
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2014-01-20 10:53:45 PM

jst3p: MassAsster: jst3p: I have been thinking of buying one, any farkers want to say yea or nay?

Difficulty: I only drink diet soda and find most of them to taste nasty.

Diet coke, diet dew and diet dr pepper are OK.

I go with YEA -  but honestly if you drink diet anything, I can mail you some cat urine and you won't know the difference...

Maybe you couldn't tell the difference. I would like to think I could but it sounds like you have me beat in the "who has tasted cat pee" department, so I guess I will never really know as well as you do.


yeah well, I was young and she was feral .... wait a minute,  this isn't about me, its about the soda steam, stop changing the subject!
 
2014-01-20 10:53:56 PM

jst3p: Ohhh I like Mio... that's a good idea coupled with the ways listed in this thread to use non-proprietary consumables with it.


Too bad they don't make beer Mio.
 
2014-01-20 10:54:47 PM
Indian tears really?

We aren't all dead dude.   Just biding our time........ yes biiiiiiiding muahahahahaha
 
2014-01-20 10:56:01 PM

Forbidden Doughnut: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: The regular cola isn't bad, but the large bottle "natural" cola (unprocessed cane sugar rather than processed cane sugar - thus requiring more syrup is pretty damn close to Coca Cola. I like mine, and treat it like a great toy, but I'm a fat guy with a sugar vice.

How does the cost/oz. really compare to Coca-Cola or Pepsi? I'm not a big soda drinker, but I do like my Pepsi Throwback, and if that taste could be perfectly replicated for a much cheaper price, I'd be interested....

/ just not sure if the initial investment would be worth it...


It does pay itself back over the VERY VERY VERY long term if you use the official merch (much more so if you modify it with an expanded tank and CO2 nozzle - which I also have.)

A fill up at Dicks gets about 40 liters for $5 with a 12oz paintball tank. $0.125 per liter. A sodastream brand syrup costs about $5 and gets 8-9 liters of flavoring out of it. Roughly half the price of conventional bottles (assuming $1.25 per 1 liter bottle at the grocery store) with far less trash or recycling built up. The biggest thing is not having to carry packs of drinks inside.

I use mine and love it, but the investment has to be paired with patience. Jumping back and forth between vending machines, fast food cola, and sodastream will offset any gains you might have made. But do not buy the kits in the store unless you can get an absolute steal on the prices. I worked in a store and snagged a floor demo model as it was hitting clearance. No flavor packs and a coupon for a free refill since I bought the floor model with a rebate for less than $60.

If you're buying it because boys like toys, then have at it. If you want to save serious money with it, take the $60 and buy some CFLs/window caulk for your home.
 
2014-01-20 10:56:23 PM
I wondered how Jew Hate was going to be used on the soda stream.  Now we know!
 
2014-01-20 10:57:52 PM

MassAsster: jst3p: MassAsster: jst3p: I have been thinking of buying one, any farkers want to say yea or nay?

Difficulty: I only drink diet soda and find most of them to taste nasty.

Diet coke, diet dew and diet dr pepper are OK.

I go with YEA -  but honestly if you drink diet anything, I can mail you some cat urine and you won't know the difference...

Maybe you couldn't tell the difference. I would like to think I could but it sounds like you have me beat in the "who has tasted cat pee" department, so I guess I will never really know as well as you do.

yeah well, I was young and she was feral .... wait a minute,  this isn't about me, its about the soda steam, stop changing the subject!


I loled. Well played!
 
2014-01-20 10:58:32 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com

Wait until they find out who makes their clothes...
 
2014-01-20 10:59:06 PM

what_now: "Enjoy your Palestinian blood cocktails," the left-wing reporter said to the vodka drinkers.

Bullshiat. I live in Somerville MA, and my soda stream came from an apartment of academics, and artists in Harvard farking Square, and no one has ever said anything like that.

One person we know doesn't have one because he doesn't like the company's politics, but no one I have ever met- and I was once in a vegan lesbian book club with people who used their own menstrwl blood as plant fertilizer- would say such a ducking thing.


I know people like that today....
 
2014-01-20 11:00:27 PM

dillenger69: How to use a regular CO2 tank with your soda stream.

http://co2doctorfreedomoneplusreview.blogspot.com/


Really good alternative flavor source

http://pittsburghsodapop.com


That proprietary fitting would NOT be that hard to take off of a SodaStream refill bottle, drill out if necessary, then tap with a pipe thread tap. Then, $40 for a CO2 regulator from Harbor freight, some assorted brass fittings and high pressure hose, and a CO2 tank from there as well, and you have your own CO2 source for a good bit less than that company.
 
2014-01-20 11:01:56 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: Kumana Wanalaia: Bonzo_1116: namatad: meh
if you live in america you are drinking indian tears ... get over it

/number of countries in the world which are currently occupied by their original inhabitants: ZERO

Iceland!

Japan.

Are you serious?


Japan actually have their own natives that predate the traditional oriental based population.

The Ainu people.
 
2014-01-20 11:02:22 PM

Sneakytoes: jst3p: Too bad they don't make beer Mio.

Actually some food scientist guy developed a beer concentrate to which you can just add water to get flat beer.  It was just ethanol and beer flavoring solids but getting it right was apparently tricky.  I don't think it has gone commercial and was the target audience was backpackers.
 
2014-01-20 11:02:47 PM
Now I can get drunk, and my blood won't turn into powder! Wait, there isn't any soap in this, right?

25.media.tumblr.com

/Richard Chase
 
2014-01-20 11:06:56 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: jonny_q: There's no hate like liberal hate.

Man that was so long ago, I forgot what alt-slinging tard said that.


I think that GaryPDX is our Goldstein, for that kind of thing

/gone to Troll Valhalla
 
2014-01-20 11:06:56 PM

what_now: "Enjoy your Palestinian blood cocktails," the left-wing reporter said to the vodka drinkers.

Bullshiat. I live in Somerville MA, and my soda stream came from an apartment of academics, and artists in Harvard farking Square, and no one has ever said anything like that.

One person we know doesn't have one because he doesn't like the company's politics, but no one I have ever met- and I was once in a vegan lesbian book club with people who used their own menstrwl blood as plant fertilizer- would say such a ducking thing.


When I went to Tuba Christmas last December we had a couple protesters with a bull horn trying to compete with 300 tubas. That was the first I ever heard about it.
 
2014-01-20 11:07:23 PM

talan123: AverageAmericanGuy: Kumana Wanalaia: Bonzo_1116: namatad: meh
if you live in america you are drinking indian tears ... get over it

/number of countries in the world which are currently occupied by their original inhabitants: ZERO

Iceland!

Japan.

Are you serious?

Japan actually have their own natives that predate the traditional oriental based population.

The Ainu people.


I wouldn't say Japan is "occupied" by them. Sure, they're here, but the average Japanese person isn't Ainu any more than the average American is Lakota.
 
2014-01-20 11:08:20 PM

namatad: meh
if you live in america you are drinking indian tears ... get over it


www.johnbetts-fineminerals.com
 
2014-01-20 11:11:06 PM

what_now: One person we know doesn't have one because he doesn't like the company's politics, but no one I have ever met- and I was once in a vegan lesbian book club with people who used their own menstrwl blood as plant fertilizer- would say such a ducking thing.


Is menstraw another name for penis?
 
2014-01-20 11:12:03 PM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: It does pay itself back over the VERY VERY VERY long term if you use the official merch (much more so if you modify it with an expanded tank and CO2 nozzle - which I also have.)

A fill up at Dicks gets about 40 liters for $5 with a 12oz paintball tank. $0.125 per liter. A sodastream brand syrup costs about $5 and gets 8-9 liters of flavoring out of it. Roughly half the price of conventional bottles (assuming $1.25 per 1 liter bottle at the grocery store) with far less trash or recycling built up. The biggest thing is not having to carry packs of drinks inside.


So $0.13 per liter for the CO2 and $0.63 per liter for the syrup comes to $0.75 per liter, or $1.50 per 2 liter. Around here anyway, Coke and Pepsi regularly put their 2 liters on sale for $1.25 - $1.50 and store brands (which are more comparable in taste) sell at regular price for $0.85 - $0.95 per 2 liter. So where exactly is this savings coming from?
 
2014-01-20 11:12:20 PM
My real problem is they want me to use the tap water. It's bad enough Brita wont cut it, you have to use a Zero filter, but that's only good for a gallon per hour and the filter goes bad after 15 gallons.

My Sams club membership is justified in bottled water alone.
 
2014-01-20 11:13:43 PM
oh fark all the way off. look, you don't agree with Israeli politics? Fine, whatever, whatever, do your thing, that's your right, although I'd strongly encourage you to look at who you're getting into philosophical bed with when you wander down that road. But comparison with African mines? Seriously what is wrong with you.
 
2014-01-20 11:15:19 PM
Makes me want to buy one.
 
2014-01-20 11:16:11 PM

TwowheelinTim: Most engineers I know can't find their asses with both hands, much less operate any kind of machinery more complicated than a dinner fork.


I take offense at that, good sir! As soon as i get this dinner fork out of my ass I shall consult my Table of Witty Rebukes (7th edition) for the proper rebuttal.
 
2014-01-20 11:19:55 PM

JungleBoogie: talan123: Last year 39 Palestinians died by Israeli forces directly.  Six Israeli's died by Palestinian attacks.

Don't most US cities have higher murder rates than this?

Shooting And Stabbing In Baltimore Saturday; City Records 18th Homicide Of 2014


And in other news, we continue to be all - f*cked - up about two disparate factions of people with different gods who have been fighting over that same sketchy piece real estate since Methuselah was Pampers.

All while home sweet home is being dismantled, and sold off wholesale as the "law" slowly works it's way up to full blown Fourth Reich level with weekly "month off with pay" killings.

Never mind the usual cast of idiot punks, thugs, droolers and wanna be militia types blowing away anything without an orange vest on.

I mean, far be it from me to sound insensitive, but shouldn't we sort of let these people do what they seem to be wont to do, with or without us, and wipe our own asses for a change?
 
2014-01-20 11:19:59 PM

Boo_Guy: namatad: meh
if you live in america you are drinking indian tears ... get over it

/number of countries in the world which are currently occupied by their original inhabitants: ZERO

Africa?


Africa is also a big continent.
 
2014-01-20 11:21:44 PM

jaytkay: TV's Vinnie:
[www.nikopik.com image 850x563]

You know how I know you don't know anything about the settlements?


The real question is, do you know that I don't care?

Come on. Ask if I do.
 
2014-01-20 11:22:30 PM

jst3p: jaytkay: PC LOAD LETTER: Are they actually setting up a sweatshop in the West Bank or is this just a "ZOMG IZRALI COMPANY AND PALESTEENEEN WORKERS MEANS SLAVERY!!"

The company is in a Jewish settlement on the West Bank. They're displacing Palestinians, not hiring them.

Since I don't know who I have a bigger problem with between the two I am not sure how this information affects my desire to have one.


This. If one group killed off the other and finally stopped all the biatching, I don't think I'd care who it was.
 
2014-01-20 11:23:07 PM
Do you know what you are drinking???? Carbonic acid!!!! CARBONIC ACID!!!
 
2014-01-20 11:24:26 PM

LoneVVolf: TwowheelinTim: Most engineers I know can't find their asses with both hands, much less operate any kind of machinery more complicated than a dinner fork.

I take offense at that, good sir! As soon as i get this dinner fork out of my ass I shall consult my Table of Witty Rebukes (7th edition) for the proper rebuttal.


And, most I know have a really great sense of humor about it.
 
2014-01-20 11:24:32 PM

brantgoose: Really? I thought they were CO2 bubbles.

But seriously, take my wife. Please! (rimshot)

OK. So SodaStream is an Israeli company.


In other words...........

img.fark.net

JEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
 
2014-01-20 11:25:25 PM

Pointy Tail of Satan: Do you know what you are drinking???? Carbonic acid!!!! CARBONIC ACID!!!


I'm pretty sure that the Diet Pepsi that I often swill down as a whiskey chaser and with meals contains some sort of crap that's used to clean the rust off of chrome.  That which does not kill me, sirrah.
 
2014-01-20 11:36:51 PM
Enjoy, why buying some one or even wearing blood diamonds!
 
2014-01-20 11:36:54 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: jonny_q: There's no hate like liberal hate.

Man that was so long ago, I forgot what alt-slinging tard said that.


Gato Negro I think.
 
2014-01-20 11:39:36 PM
Thanks but I'll stick to my Canada Dry Black Cherry Wishniak soda.  It's wonderfully tasty and refreshing and no Palestinians were harmed in its production.
 
2014-01-20 11:40:45 PM

Fast Moon: "A lefty journalist friend of mine in Tel Aviv has a machine he keeps under his kitchen sink so that he doesn't get embarrassed when other lefties come over for dinner,"

Who the heck actually talks like this?

"Boy, I'm so glad I'm a lefty.  I think I'll go hang out with my lefty friends at our lefty cafe and read lefty magazines while sipping lefty lattes.  Lefty."


First they get their own scissors; now everything else is specially made for them?
 
2014-01-20 11:44:07 PM

ReapTheChaos: jst3p: I have been thinking of buying one, any farkers want to say yea or nay?

Difficulty: I only drink diet soda and find most of them to taste nasty.

Diet coke, diet dew and diet dr pepper are OK.

I looked into getting one a while back, my conclusion was it was way more expensive than buying soda in 2 liter bottles. Around here Coke goes on sale regularly at $1.25 - $1.50 and store brand typically sell for $0.89. The problem with soda stream is, you're not getting name brand soda so it's more appropriately compared to store brands. The thing is, you have to buy the syrup, CO2 and even the plastic bottles from them.

I drink diet Coke but recently I've been buying Walmart's Sams Choice diet cola, it's not exactly Coke but for 89 cents I'll live with it.


I second this assessment. While the sugar (or worse yet the substitutes) is bad, the carbonation is horrible for your teeth. The convenience of unlimited soda made me decide to not buy one.

/I only see them advertised on hannity and bed bath and beyond.   I haven't seen any liberal targeted advertising.
 
2014-01-20 11:44:29 PM
I won't not buy it because it's made by an asshole company in an Apartheid territory. I won't buy it because it's stupid.
 
2014-01-20 11:51:54 PM
If it's not Diet Coke, IT'S CRAP!
 
2014-01-20 11:52:04 PM
"Blood bubbles," someone called them. Defending herself, the hostess said the machine had been a gift.

Well, that's one way to respond to that accusation.

Another would be to say "Get the fark out of my home RIGHT NOW, you asshole. I invite you to my party and this is how you see fit to behave?  Take your farking flat-ass water and pour it up your ass, you rude piece of shiat."
 
2014-01-20 11:52:42 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: Some people just don't like it when Israel is involved in something. These people are typically anti-Semites, but I'll give these libs the benefit of the doubt and just refer to them as anti-Zionists (IOW, anti-Semites).


It is possible that people look upon Israel in the same manner that they looked upon South Africa. It has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with the military dictatorship of a regional minority group over the majority.
 
2014-01-20 11:53:01 PM
And, here's my own take on all this crapola:


If it's Not About the Jews... - ©2014 by Trevor Patrick

The keffiyeh-wearing activists all say:
that Anti-Zionism is not Anti-Semitism,
and that antipathy towards Israel,
is not REALLY about the Jews...

It's about the 'Illegitimate, Apartheid State',
that 'occupies' the entirety of Palestine,
and that ancient hatreds and blood-libels,
aren't the things that are shaping their views.

They say that their overarching care,
is for people living as prisoners in their own, stolen homeland,
and in ensuring that 'silenced' voices
are finally, at long last heard-

but the mounting inconsistencies in their message,
in talk as well as in deed,
are making some folks realise,
that their actions belie their words.

Because if it's not about the Jews,
why is Palestine such a cause-celebre,
when there's dozens of OTHER nations,
whose rightful citizens live as slaves?

And why then is Israel called an 'illegitimate' entity,
even though it was recognised by the UN,
and the vast majority of the world's nations:
most of them in 1948?

And if it's not about the Jews,
why do the activists insist on referring
to Jerusalem as 'Al Quds',
rather than using its proper, 5,000 year-old historical name?

If it's not about the Jews,
and it's all about the oppressed Palestinians,
what about the ones living in camps in neighbouring nations:
generations born on foreign soil,
but never allowed basic rights, citizenship,
or much less, a sense of place?

If it's not about the Jews,
why is there a double standard for the Israelis,
where protecting their safety
is called an act of genocide?

But every attack by Palestinians,
that succeeds in killing Israelis,
no matter what the context,
is ALWAYS justified?

Because if it was truly not about the Jews,
the activists would see the real truth,
that the BIGGEST victimisation of the Palestinians
is not from Israel-

but rather from their own fanatical leadership,
who don't want peace, but want every Jew dead,
and from all the other Arab nations
that use them as bargaining chips and pawns.

And if it's not about the Jews,
then maybe you should ask yourself:
can you stare in the mirror, and look yourself in the eyes-

when wherever you happen to live,
you're standing on land
that often YOUR ancestors
were the ones that seized and occupied?

And if it's not about the Jews,
would you live by your own standards,
and say that when the bus you're riding on is blown up,
you deserved to die-

that you have no intrinsic right to protect yourself,
in the land you've known from birth,
because your very citizenship
is based upon a lie?

If it's not about the Jews,
why then is Israel hated more
than any other so-called 'occupying power',
on the face of the Earth?

For example, no one's given a shiat since 1974,
about occupied Northern Cyprus:
A so-called 'country' that is recognised
by no one, but the occupying Turks.

And it's ALSO no longer trendy
unless you're Richard Gere,
to talk about China's continuing occupation
and cultural despoliation of Tibet;

because, after all, it wasn't dirty Jew-Gold,
that financed the forced 'liberation' of Lhasa,
and the Tibetans don't strap suicide bombs to their children,
or murder Chinese families in their beds.

But the Chinese occupiers
have single-handedly wiped-out
the centuries-old tradition of the Panchen Lama,
and will do the same to the Dalai Lama,
on the day he finally drops dead.

And if it's not about the Jews,
why am I supposed to boycott, divest and sanction against Soda-Stream,
but I'm crazy if I do the same against other companies,
whose nations have demonstrably occupied foreign territory,
and treat the people they've oppressed far worse yet?

Likewise, every African horror story,
that captures the public attention
for all of five minutes,
but then disappears like smoke,
as all other stories about oppressed brown people
so invariably do...

But Palestine has dominated the discourse,
and WILL continue to do so until Israel is destroyed,
because the plain and simple truth
is that it's ALWAYS been about the Jews.
 
2014-01-20 11:53:22 PM

jst3p: I have been thinking of buying one, any farkers want to say yea or nay?

Difficulty: I only drink diet soda and find most of them to taste nasty.

Diet coke, diet dew and diet dr pepper are OK.


We have the same taste. High five!
 
2014-01-20 11:56:52 PM

TheGogmagog: I second this assessment. While the sugar (or worse yet the substitutes) is bad, the carbonation is horrible for your teeth.


Nope.

The reason  most carbonated beverages are bad for your teeth is that they contain natural or artificial sweeteners which promote salivation, or they are flavored with their own enamel-damaging acidic compounds.

A carbonated water with the same pH as a flat water would have a negligible difference on dental health.
 
2014-01-20 11:58:09 PM

Pointy Tail of Satan: Do you know what you are drinking???? Carbonic acid!!!! CARBONIC ACID!!!


Let's not even mention the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide.
 
2014-01-21 12:00:01 AM

ReapTheChaos: dillenger69: How to use a regular CO2 tank with your soda stream.

http://co2doctorfreedomoneplusreview.blogspot.com/


Really good alternative flavor source

http://pittsburghsodapop.com

So instead of having a CO2 canister that tucks neatly into the machine, you have to have that large ugly gray monstrosity sitting along side the machine on your counter top or drill a hole through the counter top or wall or whatever to store it elsewhere. All to save a penny or two on a liter of home made soda. Real genius plan.


I have mine hidden in the bar, but if you want it sitting on the counter more power to you.
 
2014-01-21 12:02:48 AM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Forbidden Doughnut: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: The regular cola isn't bad, but the large bottle "natural" cola (unprocessed cane sugar rather than processed cane sugar - thus requiring more syrup is pretty damn close to Coca Cola. I like mine, and treat it like a great toy, but I'm a fat guy with a sugar vice.

How does the cost/oz. really compare to Coca-Cola or Pepsi? I'm not a big soda drinker, but I do like my Pepsi Throwback, and if that taste could be perfectly replicated for a much cheaper price, I'd be interested....

/ just not sure if the initial investment would be worth it...

It does pay itself back over the VERY VERY VERY long term if you use the official merch (much more so if you modify it with an expanded tank and CO2 nozzle - which I also have.)

A fill up at Dicks gets about 40 liters for $5 with a 12oz paintball tank. $0.125 per liter. A sodastream brand syrup costs about $5 and gets 8-9 liters of flavoring out of it. Roughly half the price of conventional bottles (assuming $1.25 per 1 liter bottle at the grocery store) with far less trash or recycling built up. The biggest thing is not having to carry packs of drinks inside.

I use mine and love it, but the investment has to be paired with patience. Jumping back and forth between vending machines, fast food cola, and sodastream will offset any gains you might have made. But do not buy the kits in the store unless you can get an absolute steal on the prices. I worked in a store and snagged a floor demo model as it was hitting clearance. No flavor packs and a coupon for a free refill since I bought the floor model with a rebate for less than $60.

If you're buying it because boys like toys, then have at it. If you want to save serious money with it, take the $60 and buy some CFLs/window caulk for your home.


I picked mine up around xmas, for me it was more about options, I like soda, but I'm diabetic and have to stick to the diet stuff, which, unless you want to stick with diet coke, diet pepsi, and diet Dr.P, can be hard to find stuff that tastes moderately drinkable..  I have a few of the sodastream brand flavorings, tring to find what's decent, but I like the ability to mix, I've used the water flavoring in the small bottles (Mio and the like) to decent effect with it, makes for some variety.

As for the controversy, the Israelis and the Palestinians have been dicking each other over forever, and the whole region seems like it's been one war zone or another for centuries.  Frankly, where the factory is actually located seems pretty damned trivial when compared to that.  I'm amazed people can actually get any business done there..more power to 'em...
 
2014-01-21 12:03:55 AM
So now I need to know, is there a soda that harms both Jews and Muslims? I've got my checkbook out.
 
2014-01-21 12:04:26 AM
OK. Interesting fact. Now explain why I should give two tugs of a dead dog's cock about it.
 
2014-01-21 12:06:18 AM
I wish soda stream would close the west bank factory, fire all the palestinians and re-open it in Tel-Aviv.
 
2014-01-21 12:08:50 AM
Meh. I drink water.

/probably because I get free pop at work so when I come home I don't feel like drinking pop
//I will be in my bunk thinking about Scarlett
 
2014-01-21 12:10:16 AM

ciberido: Pointy Tail of Satan: Do you know what you are drinking???? Carbonic acid!!!! CARBONIC ACID!!!

Let's not even mention the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide.


Holy shiat I wish that joke would die.  Have been reading it on the internet for about 20 years now.

Really... it's time to retire it.
 
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