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2014-01-20 08:54:53 PM
Bah, there will probably be an attempt to get anyone who listens to the speech paying royalties.
 
2014-01-20 08:59:05 PM
Overheard in the car on the way to lunch "who do I have to kill to get Tuesday off?".

/plot twist: It was me
 
2014-01-20 08:59:55 PM
Taken down until the museum pays a licensing fee to the King family in 3... 2... 1...
 
2014-01-20 09:01:00 PM
I Have Ice Cream?
 
2014-01-20 09:01:15 PM
think it'll help?

Yeah me neither. USA is too far gone
 
2014-01-20 09:02:49 PM
You know it's real if large parts are plagiarized.....

And if the speech treats women badly...

/ now I feel bad; now I have watch Sidney Poitier biatch slap some white dudes
 
2014-01-20 09:05:41 PM

uncleacid: I Have Ice Cream?


Yeah, it was dessert.  (Left over from my brother-in-law's birthday the other day.)
 
2014-01-20 09:06:36 PM
How about No.gif
 
2014-01-20 09:13:16 PM

mrEdude: think it'll help?

Yeah me neither. USA is too far gone


What, you're going to rage quit the country?

Make a goddamn effort.
 
2014-01-20 09:13:28 PM

gadian: Bah, there will probably be an attempt to get anyone who listens to the speech paying royalties.


generallyso: Taken down until the museum pays a licensing fee to the King family in 3... 2... 1...


The message isn't important. You guys biatching like little girls is the important thing here...
 
2014-01-20 09:13:32 PM

generallyso: Taken down until the museum pays a licensing fee to the King family in 3... 2... 1...


I'm waiting for a licensing fee to be owed by everyone who takes MLK Day off.
 
2014-01-20 09:13:43 PM
right now
Matbe tomorrrow -- to find me Yeah
 
2014-01-20 09:14:11 PM
iheartscotch:

/ now I feel bad; now I have watch Sidney Poitier biatch slap some white dudes


Hey that's "Mister Tibbs" to you.

cdn.mos.totalfilm.com
 
2014-01-20 09:15:12 PM

OtherLittleGuy: generallyso: Taken down until the museum pays a licensing fee to the King family in 3... 2... 1...

I'm waiting for a licensing fee to be owed by everyone who takes MLK Day off.


/won't owe a licensing fee
 
2014-01-20 09:16:07 PM
The unresolved race question is a pathological infection in our social and political anatomy, which has sickened us throughout our history, and is still today a largely untreated disease. How has our social health been injured by this condition? The legacy is the impairment of the lives of nearly 20 million of our citizens. Based solely on their color, they have been condemned to a sub-existence, never sharing the fruits of progress equally.

I thought he was supposed to be a Republican. This sounds pretty "socialist" if you ask me.
 
2014-01-20 09:17:11 PM
I read an article about the "I Have a Dream" speach given in Washington D.C.
The King family owns the rights and they are very protective about the whole thing.
I am naive enought to have thought they would make it public domain so that message got out to as many as possible.......
 
2014-01-20 09:17:12 PM
Was the speech him explaining any of his numerous extramarital affairs or the cops removing prostitutes from his hotel rooms?

/he never seemed to get around to that
 
2014-01-20 09:17:34 PM
"There is no Black America. There is no White America. There is only the United States of America."

Beautiful stuff, man.
 
2014-01-20 09:19:41 PM

Mrtraveler01: The unresolved race question is a pathological infection in our social and political anatomy, which has sickened us throughout our history, and is still today a largely untreated disease. How has our social health been injured by this condition? The legacy is the impairment of the lives of nearly 20 million of our citizens. Based solely on their color, they have been condemned to a sub-existence, never sharing the fruits of progress equally.

I thought he was supposed to be a Republican. This sounds pretty "socialist" if you ask me.



Well, he was something of a Jesus-Freak.

So there's that.
 
2014-01-20 09:20:07 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: "There is no Black America. There is no White America. There is only the United States of America."

Beautiful stuff, man.


If there's no black america, then who is committing all the violent crime!?
 
2014-01-20 09:21:28 PM

TomD9938: Mrtraveler01: The unresolved race question is a pathological infection in our social and political anatomy, which has sickened us throughout our history, and is still today a largely untreated disease. How has our social health been injured by this condition? The legacy is the impairment of the lives of nearly 20 million of our citizens. Based solely on their color, they have been condemned to a sub-existence, never sharing the fruits of progress equally.

I thought he was supposed to be a Republican. This sounds pretty "socialist" if you ask me.


Well, he was something of a Jesus-Freak.

So there's that.


I'm not used to anyone actually following his teachings I suppose.
 
2014-01-20 09:22:53 PM
Link

A few years ago, the estate received more than $700,000from the nonprofit foundation that created and built the monument to King on the Mall in order to use his words and image.

The only legal way to reproduce King's work - at least until it enters the public domain in 2038 - is to pay for a licensing fee, rates for which vary.


I get that they don't to lose control of the image and words. But charging the foundation that built a the monument to MLK over half a million dollars to use the words and image? Sounds more like a cash register to me.
 
2014-01-20 09:23:07 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: AverageAmericanGuy: "There is no Black America. There is no White America. There is only the United States of America."

Beautiful stuff, man.

If there's no black america, then who is committing all the violent crime!?


Let's check the speech...

"There is only the United States of America and Africa America."

So there you have it. It must be one of those two Americas.
 
2014-01-20 09:23:48 PM
Amazing the knee-jerk negative reaction conservatives have at the mention of MLK. It's really deeply ingrained.

Ten comments in and they're already shiatting all over another thread. Good job, guys.
 
2014-01-20 09:24:24 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: AverageAmericanGuy: "There is no Black America. There is no White America. There is only the United States of America."

Beautiful stuff, man.

If there's no black america, then who is committing all the violent crime!?

Let's check the speech...

"There is only the United States of America and Africa America."

So there you have it. It must be one of those two Americas.


Which is the America I bless the rains in?
 
2014-01-20 09:25:44 PM
Does the speech start like this?

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2014-01-20 09:27:03 PM

MrDon: I read an article about the "I Have a Dream" speach given in Washington D.C.
The King family owns the rights and they are very protective about the whole thing.
I am naive enought to have thought they would make it public domain so that message got out to as many as possible.......


There's a lot of internal conflict inside that family as sides try to exploit his legacy for their own gain. Especially between his niece and MLK's wife who ideologies really conflicted with one another.
 
2014-01-20 09:27:32 PM
King originally had a conflict that night, but Rockefeller enticed him by donating money to rebuild black churches that had been destroyed by arson in Georgia, said Jennifer Lemak, senior historian at the museum.

Should be thanking the arsonists for this speech?
 
2014-01-20 09:27:32 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: "There is no Black America. There is no White America. There is only the United States of America."

Beautiful stuff, man.


Only shades of gray America?

images3.cinema.de
 
2014-01-20 09:28:04 PM
I heard there was Money involve?


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2014-01-20 09:28:07 PM
s23.postimg.org
 
2014-01-20 09:28:15 PM
Did anyone read the CNN article from a couple days ago, about relatively unknown King speeches?

I enjoyed it.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/19/us/king-speeches-never-heard/


The main take-away for me was that he was assasinated not for civil rights, but for venturing into "redistribute the wealth and end capitalism"

Some of his quotes that CNN quoted;

"A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death."

"I imagine you already know that I am much more socialistic in my economic theory than capitalistic. And yet I am not so opposed to capitalism that I have failed to see its relative merits. It started out with a noble and high motive, to block the trade monopolies of nobles, but like most human systems it falls victim to the very thing it was revolting against. So today capitalism has outlived its usefulness. It has brought about a system that takes necessities from the masses to give luxuries to the classes."

"About two years ago now, I stood with many of you who stood there in person and all of you who were there in spirit before the Lincoln Memorial in Washington. As I came to the end of my speech there, I tried to tell the nation about a dream I had. I must confess to you this morning that since that sweltering August afternoon in 1963, my dream has often turned into a nightmare. I've seen my dream shattered as I've walked the streets of Chicago and see Negroes, young men and women, with a sense of utter hopelessness because they can't find any jobs. ... I've seen my dream shattered as I've been through Appalachia, and I've seen my white brothers along with Negroes living in poverty. And I'm concerned about white poverty as much as I'm concerned about Negro poverty. ... How are you going to have a multiracial democracy if inequality makes life is so harsh and competitive at the bottom, where society is most multiracial and multinational? "
 
2014-01-20 09:30:53 PM

gadian: Bah, there will probably be an attempt to get anyone who listens to the speech paying royalties.


brb
someone's at the door
 
2014-01-20 09:31:19 PM

Mrtraveler01: AverageAmericanGuy: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: AverageAmericanGuy: "There is no Black America. There is no White America. There is only the United States of America."

Beautiful stuff, man.

If there's no black america, then who is committing all the violent crime!?

Let's check the speech...

"There is only the United States of America and Africa America."

So there you have it. It must be one of those two Americas.

Which is the America I bless the rains in?


cdn-static.denofgeek.com
"In which America do I bless the rains?"
 
2014-01-20 09:31:31 PM
Wow, who would have thought that he would go on a racist tirade like that.  All that cursing and throwing around slurs.  Really dehumanizing an entire ethnic sector of humanity.  Wait, what link did y'all go to?
 
2014-01-20 09:32:27 PM

MrDon: I read an article about the "I Have a Dream" speach given in Washington D.C.
The King family owns the rights and they are very protective about the whole thing.
I am naive enought to have thought they would make it public domain so that message got out to as many as possible.......


I don't know. Do you complain about capitalism when white people are involved, or does "naivete" only count when talking about black people?
 
2014-01-20 09:33:11 PM

armor helix: Was the speech him explaining any of his numerous extramarital affairs or the cops removing prostitutes from his hotel rooms?

/he never seemed to get around to that



What does adultery have to do with championing equal rights regardless of skin color?
 
2014-01-20 09:35:21 PM

jaytkay: Amazing the knee-jerk negative reaction conservatives have at the mention of MLK. It's really deeply ingrained.

Ten comments in and they're already shiatting all over another thread. Good job, guys.


Amazing the knee jerk reaction progressives have when everybody doesn't think exactly like them.

No one was shiatting on the thread. It's ok to make jokes in America.

MLK was a good man who wanted better for his race in America. He wasn't a saint and there's nothing wrong with taking jabs at public figures.
 
2014-01-20 09:38:48 PM
generallyso
armor helix: Was the speech him explaining any of his numerous extramarital affairs or the cops removing prostitutes from his hotel rooms?
/he never seemed to get around to that
What does adultery have to do with championing equal rights regardless of skin color?


Oliver Stone departed MLK biopic:
Link

Nothing, reality is complicated. With more ambition and charisma comes the problems associated with that. See JFK and Clinton.

But don't expect anything nuanced coming out the official version.
 
2014-01-20 09:43:35 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: AverageAmericanGuy: "There is no Black America. There is no White America. There is only the United States of America."

Beautiful stuff, man.

If there's no black america, then who is committing all the violent crime!?



I laughed.  Window seat, please.
 
2014-01-20 09:48:14 PM

jaybeezey: jaytkay: Amazing the knee-jerk negative reaction conservatives have at the mention of MLK. It's really deeply ingrained.

Ten comments in and they're already shiatting all over another thread. Good job, guys.

Amazing the knee jerk reaction progressives have when everybody doesn't think exactly like them.

No one was shiatting on the thread. It's ok to make jokes in America.

MLK was a good man who wanted better for his race in America. He wasn't a saint and there's nothing wrong with taking jabs at public figures.


Right, but not cool to take shots.
 
2014-01-20 09:49:38 PM
*gank*
 
2014-01-20 09:49:41 PM

jaybeezey: MLK was a good man who wanted better for his race in America.


He was only working for "his race"? You might want to read up on his life and work.
 
2014-01-20 09:49:52 PM

Enemabag Jones: generallyso
armor helix: Was the speech him explaining any of his numerous extramarital affairs or the cops removing prostitutes from his hotel rooms?
/he never seemed to get around to that
What does adultery have to do with championing equal rights regardless of skin color?

Oliver Stone departed MLK biopic:
Link


god dammit, with spielberg and foxx attached they wouldnt have let stone go all 'jfk' with the film, and we couldve had something decent.
 
2014-01-20 09:51:18 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: "There is no Black America. There is no White America. There is only the United States of America."

Beautiful stuff, man.


:)
 
2014-01-20 09:55:29 PM
cdn.gottabemobile.com

Won't be long until the family sues

/drtfa
 
2014-01-20 09:55:41 PM

mediablitz: MrDon: I read an article about the "I Have a Dream" speach given in Washington D.C.
The King family owns the rights and they are very protective about the whole thing.
I am naive enought to have thought they would make it public domain so that message got out to as many as possible.......

I don't know. Do you complain about capitalism when white people are involved, or does "naivete" only count when talking about black people?


I don't think so, I do remember that the Grateful Dead permitted people to record their concerts. They wanted people to hear their music. Bear with me, I'm still recovering from Woodstock (1969).
 
2014-01-20 10:05:22 PM
Why would I want to listen to something that's racist against white people?
 
2014-01-20 10:16:08 PM
That's OK, I prefer his other speech.

img.fark.net
 
2014-01-20 10:29:16 PM

CaptainFatass: That's OK, I prefer his other speech.

[img.fark.net image 400x224]


His pre-presidential stuff was the best
 
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