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2014-01-20 08:08:10 PM
Of course there's no mention of what he was convicted for.


"And we need to have one now, because of the children," Haring added. "Right this minute, because the children walk the street alone."

Maybe you shouldn't be letting your kids wander around by themselves?
 
2014-01-20 08:16:35 PM

fusillade762: Of course there's no mention of what he was convicted for.


"And we need to have one now, because of the children," Haring added. "Right this minute, because the children walk the street alone."

Maybe you shouldn't be letting your kids wander around by themselves?


Maybe the article was updated since you read it: "He was convicted in New York in 2004 for distributing child pornography, and is listed on the Florida Department of Law Enforcement's online sex offender database."
 
2014-01-20 08:17:51 PM
Hmm, reading that post in context makes it seem kinda snarky. Wasn't meant that way.
 
2014-01-20 08:22:57 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: fusillade762: Of course there's no mention of what he was convicted for.

"And we need to have one now, because of the children," Haring added. "Right this minute, because the children walk the street alone."

Maybe you shouldn't be letting your kids wander around by themselves?

Maybe the article was updated since you read it: "He was convicted in New York in 2004 for distributing child pornography, and is listed on the Florida Department of Law Enforcement's online sex offender database."


Oops, my bad. Don't know how I missed that part.
 
2014-01-20 09:00:32 PM
So wonderful that so many people think ex post facto should not apply anymore
 
2014-01-20 09:55:06 PM

fusillade762: Mitch Taylor's Bro: fusillade762:    what he was convicted for ... distributing child pornography ... I missed that part.


But you made the point anyway that these rules sweep in a lot of people.  This one may be the sort that at one time had the wrong inclination but would not actually approach a child.  The sweet blue-hair in the article expresses horror at the thought of this person monster peering through the blinds at her precious 'flake.
 
2014-01-20 10:26:08 PM

fusillade762: Maybe you shouldn't be letting your kids wander around by themselves?


That's what I thought. I drop my kid off and pick him up from school every day.
 
2014-01-20 10:54:52 PM

antidisestablishmentarianism: fusillade762: Maybe you shouldn't be letting your kids wander around by themselves?

That's what I thought. I drop my kid off and pick him up from school every day.


I grew up in the 1970's and once I got to around 9 or 10 -- still elementary school age -- my folks let me ride my bike to school (about 3 miles each way) and lots of other stuff all by myself. I seriously doubt my folks were naive about this sort of thing. Have things really gotten that bad or what?
 
2014-01-20 11:11:21 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: antidisestablishmentarianism: fusillade762: Maybe you shouldn't be letting your kids wander around by themselves?

That's what I thought. I drop my kid off and pick him up from school every day.

I grew up in the 1970's and once I got to around 9 or 10 -- still elementary school age -- my folks let me ride my bike to school (about 3 miles each way) and lots of other stuff all by myself. I seriously doubt my folks were naive about this sort of thing. Have things really gotten that bad or what?


fark, I rode my bike in the early 70's 6 miles to the nearest convenience store just because it was something to do.  During the summer my brothers and I would leave the house at 8 and not come back until 6pm and my parents didn't give a shiat.
 
2014-01-21 12:25:17 AM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: antidisestablishmentarianism: fusillade762: Maybe you shouldn't be letting your kids wander around by themselves?

That's what I thought. I drop my kid off and pick him up from school every day.

I grew up in the 1970's and once I got to around 9 or 10 -- still elementary school age -- my folks let me ride my bike to school (about 3 miles each way) and lots of other stuff all by myself. I seriously doubt my folks were naive about this sort of thing. Have things really gotten that bad or what?


I was listening to a radio morning show last week and they were talking about this, commenting on being outside all day when they were kids in the 70s and 80s, but how they'd never let their kids do that now, because "the world has changed, it's unsafe for children these days."
 
2014-01-21 12:25:25 AM
This is fairly typical for us in Florida.

You have a lot of northerners whose parents who have retired here, who have their grown children who have committed some crime, move down here and either they get up to their old shenanigans or get outraged when they get outed.
 
2014-01-21 12:25:53 AM
So he isn't breaking any law... I can see how they can't retroactively apply a law and force him to move.

And does anyone really think having to move would stop a serious child molester?   Which as far as I know this guy isn't.
 
2014-01-21 12:26:54 AM

fusillade762: Of course there's no mention of what he was convicted for.


"And we need to have one now, because of the children," Haring added. "Right this minute, because the children walk the street alone."

Maybe you shouldn't be letting your kids wander around by themselves?


Why are you trying to bring logic into this?
 
2014-01-21 12:28:07 AM

theflatline: This is fairly typical for us in Florida.

You have a lot of northerners whose parents who have retired here, who have their grown children who have committed some crime, move down here and either they get up to their old shenanigans or get outraged when they get outed.


This. There wouldn't be a Florida tag if not for dumbshiat northerners who moved down here to be with their retired parents.
 
2014-01-21 12:28:25 AM
Has he done anything since his last arrest?
 
2014-01-21 12:29:31 AM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: antidisestablishmentarianism: fusillade762: Maybe you shouldn't be letting your kids wander around by themselves?

That's what I thought. I drop my kid off and pick him up from school every day.

I grew up in the 1970's and once I got to around 9 or 10 -- still elementary school age -- my folks let me ride my bike to school (about 3 miles each way) and lots of other stuff all by myself. I seriously doubt my folks were naive about this sort of thing. Have things really gotten that bad or what?


If I recall correctly, there are less incidents of this sort of thing now than there was then, but with 24 hour news cycles and the internet it just seems like more because you hear about it every single time it happens.
 
2014-01-21 12:29:55 AM

antidisestablishmentarianism: fusillade762: Maybe you shouldn't be letting your kids wander around by themselves?

That's what I thought. I drop my kid off and pick him up from school every day.


Do you check their closets and under their beds for monsters, too?
 
2014-01-21 12:32:14 AM
I miss walking around alone as a kid.  Those old dudes with the aviator glasses gave one hell of a handjob, AND paid for my ice creams.
 
2014-01-21 12:35:12 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I was listening to a radio morning show last week and they were talking about this, commenting on being outside all day when they were kids in the 70s and 80s, but how they'd never let their kids do that now, because "the world has changed, it's unsafe for children these days."


The world hasn't changed. They've just gulped down the "OMFG! TEH WORLD IS A SCARY PLACE!" Kool-Aid the media has been shoveling out since the 80's. The world is actually safer now than it was in the 70's and 80's. But don't try and tell these idiot helicopter parents that.
 
2014-01-21 12:36:33 AM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: antidisestablishmentarianism: fusillade762: Maybe you shouldn't be letting your kids wander around by themselves?

That's what I thought. I drop my kid off and pick him up from school every day.

I grew up in the 1970's and once I got to around 9 or 10 -- still elementary school age -- my folks let me ride my bike to school (about 3 miles each way) and lots of other stuff all by myself. I seriously doubt my folks were naive about this sort of thing. Have things really gotten that bad or what?


In the 70's, if a kid was molested two towns over, you'd never hear about it. Now you hear about it on cable news, Facebook, Fark, and Twitter.
 
2014-01-21 12:39:17 AM
Almost all sexual abuse is someone the kid knows - either a family member or friends of the family. But it's probably easier to make a big deal about a guy living across from an elementary school than confront the real dangers to children, so let's just do that.
 
2014-01-21 12:40:56 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Mitch Taylor's Bro: antidisestablishmentarianism: fusillade762: Maybe you shouldn't be letting your kids wander around by themselves?

That's what I thought. I drop my kid off and pick him up from school every day.

I grew up in the 1970's and once I got to around 9 or 10 -- still elementary school age -- my folks let me ride my bike to school (about 3 miles each way) and lots of other stuff all by myself. I seriously doubt my folks were naive about this sort of thing. Have things really gotten that bad or what?

In the 70's, if a kid was molested two towns over, you'd never hear about it. Now you hear about it on cable news, Facebook, Fark, and Twitter.


As you should.
 
2014-01-21 12:43:02 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: In the 70's, if a kid was molested two towns over, you'd never hear about it. Now you hear about it on cable news, Facebook, Fark, and Twitter.


Yeah but they never have any good pictures in those articles.
 
2014-01-21 12:45:22 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Mitch Taylor's Bro: antidisestablishmentarianism: fusillade762: Maybe you shouldn't be letting your kids wander around by themselves?

That's what I thought. I drop my kid off and pick him up from school every day.

I grew up in the 1970's and once I got to around 9 or 10 -- still elementary school age -- my folks let me ride my bike to school (about 3 miles each way) and lots of other stuff all by myself. I seriously doubt my folks were naive about this sort of thing. Have things really gotten that bad or what?

In the 70's, if a kid was molested two towns over, you'd never hear about it. Now you hear about it on cable news, Facebook, Fark, and Twitter.


The Nancy Grace effect. I saw a thing on sixty minutes, or Dateline or something, saying statistically kids are safer than ever. And people know to look for these things now.
 
2014-01-21 12:46:07 AM

Lsherm: fark, I rode my bike in the early 70's 6 miles to the nearest convenience store just because it was something to do. During the summer my brothers and I would leave the house at 8 and not come back until 6pm and my parents didn't give a shiat.


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Most kids nowadays look like something only their mother would love anyways.

Let your fat kids walk and out of the house.
 
2014-01-21 12:46:12 AM
So, he broke no laws by living there?  Be kind of shiatty to change the law now.
 
2014-01-21 12:46:15 AM

Bane of Broone: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Mitch Taylor's Bro: antidisestablishmentarianism: fusillade762: Maybe you shouldn't be letting your kids wander around by themselves?

That's what I thought. I drop my kid off and pick him up from school every day.

I grew up in the 1970's and once I got to around 9 or 10 -- still elementary school age -- my folks let me ride my bike to school (about 3 miles each way) and lots of other stuff all by myself. I seriously doubt my folks were naive about this sort of thing. Have things really gotten that bad or what?

In the 70's, if a kid was molested two towns over, you'd never hear about it. Now you hear about it on cable news, Facebook, Fark, and Twitter.

As you should.


Derp
 
2014-01-21 12:48:05 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom:

I grew up in the 1970's and once I got to around 9 or 10 -- still elementary school age -- my folks let me ride my bike to school (about 3 miles each way) and lots of other stuff all by myself. I seriously doubt my folks were naive about this sort of thing. Have things really gotten that bad or what?

I was listening to a radio morning show last week and they were talking about this, commenting on being outside all day when they were kids in the 70s and 80s, but how they'd never let their kids do that now, because "the world has changed, it's unsafe for children these days."


That's the modern paranoia. Boogieman behind every rock. It's really quite sad. But it helps those in power get more power. To protect us all from the boogiemen. We need another law reducing our freedom for safety. For the children.

Mitch Taylor's Bro: Maybe the article was updated since you read it: "He was convicted in New York in 2004 for distributing child pornography, and is listed on the Florida Department of Law Enforcement's online sex offender database."


The question is was he actually caught with child porn or did have naked photos of a 17 year old who was doing photo layouts saying she was 18?  The entire 'sex offender' thing has become so broad as to become meaningless without significant details of the conviction.
 
2014-01-21 12:48:43 AM

fusillade762: Maybe you shouldn't be letting your kids wander around by themselves?


Maybe they shouldnt let sex offenders wander around by themselves either?
 
2014-01-21 12:49:45 AM
Could society just grow a pair and make this a capital offense?  What is the point of letting these people live if they have to spend the rest of their lives as outcasts?
 
2014-01-21 12:52:12 AM
Murderers get to live around other people.

Where's the fuss about that?
 
2014-01-21 12:52:27 AM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: fusillade762: Of course there's no mention of what he was convicted for.


"And we need to have one now, because of the children," Haring added. "Right this minute, because the children walk the street alone."

Maybe you shouldn't be letting your kids wander around by themselves?

Maybe the article was updated since you read it: "He was convicted in New York in 2004 for distributing child pornography, and is listed on the Florida Department of Law Enforcement's online sex offender database."


Well then everything is fine,  he was only distributing it,  he wasn't making any.
Parents today are so overprotective.
 
2014-01-21 12:52:57 AM
We should just make it illegal for sex offenders to live anywhere. That should solve the problem.
 
2014-01-21 12:53:50 AM

mikaloyd: fusillade762: Maybe you shouldn't be letting your kids wander around by themselves?

Maybe they shouldnt let sex offenders wander around by themselves either?


He served his time. And he wasn't arrested for molesting kids.

Besides, the moot likely person to molest a kid is a step-father. Strangers are far down on the list.
 
2014-01-21 12:55:32 AM
Or you know, actually work with them and try to help them rejoin society.
 
2014-01-21 12:55:44 AM

That Guy...From That Show!: Murderers get to live around other people.

Where's the fuss about that?


Murderers didn't touch my precious little snowflake!
static3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-01-21 12:56:17 AM
Was it "distributing pornography" like he was selling it or trading it? Or was it more like he downloaded a suss video from Kazaa and left his shares on?
 
2014-01-21 12:58:14 AM
FTFA: "He could look out the window and see the school, where the kids play on the playground, or the P.E. field," said Mike Melnicoff, another upset parent.

The horror!

untaken_name: We should just make it illegal for sex offenders to live anywhere. That should solve the problem.


See: the Julia Tuttle Causeway sex offender colony
See also: Miracle Park
 
2014-01-21 01:04:21 AM

leadmetal: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Maybe the article was updated since you read it: "He was convicted in New York in 2004 for distributing child pornography, and is listed on the Florida Department of Law Enforcement's online sex offender database."

The question is was he actually caught with child porn or did have naked photos of a 17 year old who was doing photo layouts saying she was 18?  The entire 'sex offender' thing has become so broad as to become meaningless without significant details of the conviction.


No, the implied question was, "Of course there's no mention of what he was convicted for." I answered that. Since I'm not clairvoyant, I can't answer your fantasy question. Continue fapping, though.
 
2014-01-21 01:08:25 AM
In this Society, you can get labeled a Registered Sex Offender just for pissing on a wall.
 
2014-01-21 01:09:08 AM

ArkAngel: So wonderful that so many people think ex post facto should not apply anymore


I really want to agree with you.  I understand it's a slippery slope.  The guy was convicted of distributing kiddy porn.  "Distributing" is incredibly vague. "Kiddy porn" isn't vague.  I watch all kinds of porn.  None of it is kiddy and I distribute none of it.
 
2014-01-21 01:11:17 AM

foo monkey: ArkAngel: So wonderful that so many people think ex post facto should not apply anymore

I really want to agree with you.  I understand it's a slippery slope.  The guy was convicted of distributing kiddy porn.  "Distributing" is incredibly vague. "Kiddy porn" isn't vague.  I watch all kinds of porn.  None of it is kiddy and I distribute none of it.


What part of "he served his time" don't you get?
 
2014-01-21 01:15:50 AM
Idk about every school district, but where my kids went to school, the buses didn't pick kids up any closer than 3 miles from the school. Now, my oldest daughter had half a brain, and I never needed to worry, the younger one tho...

and as far as dropping off and picking up, when school gets out at 3 or so, it's hard when you don't get off work till 5.
 
2014-01-21 01:17:51 AM
If it's such a problem then simply move the school.
 
2014-01-21 01:19:00 AM
"He could look out the window and see the school, where the kids play on the playground, or the P.E. field," said Mike Melnicoff, another upset parent."

Farking hell, HE CAN SEE THE SCHOOL FROM HIS HOUSE!!! So drape the school in a tarp. Sort of like this:

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2014-01-21 01:23:27 AM
Eventually one of these sex offenders is going to feel he has no chance of ever having value in society again and do something tragic, either out of desperation or just to go out in a blaze of glory.

The most dangerous man is the one who has nothing left to lose.
 
2014-01-21 01:27:03 AM

foo monkey: ArkAngel: So wonderful that so many people think ex post facto should not apply anymore

I really want to agree with you.  I understand it's a slippery slope.  The guy was convicted of distributing kiddy porn.  "Distributing" is incredibly vague. "Kiddy porn" isn't vague.  I watch all kinds of porn.  None of it is kiddy and I distribute none of it.


Actually kiddy porn is very vague. There is not much of a legal definition to porn other than 'I'll know it when I see it.' There was at least one creep who got busted for having movies of fully clothed girls doing things that they probably shouldn't have. And then again, there is David Hamilton. Don't search that name at work.
 
2014-01-21 01:27:17 AM

leadmetal: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Maybe the article was updated since you read it: "He was convicted in New York in 2004 for distributing child pornography, and is listed on the Florida Department of Law Enforcement's online sex offender database."

The question is was he actually caught with child porn or did have naked photos of a 17 year old who was doing photo layouts saying she was 18?  The entire 'sex offender' thing has become so broad as to become meaningless without significant details of the conviction.


She wouldn't need to even lie about her age. There was a case several years back where a guy was arrested at an airport for having child porn in his suitcase. Turns out the actress in the video was Lupe Fuentes, a very petite (She's 4'9" and weighs about 80 lbs.) Colombian actress. Had she not shown up at the guys trial to testify about her age he very well might have been convicted. Link
 
2014-01-21 01:28:26 AM
Lindsey Graham has really let herself go

mynews13.com
 
2014-01-21 01:33:26 AM
In other news, that creepy "Uncle Albert" episode of family ties was on tonight. Never did understand why the moms first reaction was to drag her daughter right back to the creepy uncle to "talk" with him.
 
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