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(Southern Poverty Law Center)   Sovereign Citizen bombmaker arrested in Ohio; article includes pic of tree decorated with dissociative rantings   (splcenter.org) divider line 167
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2014-01-20 01:11:45 PM  
Copy Right
Railway
Piggy Back

Broken Feet

Plantagenet
$
Vesture


Next time, maybe just stick to "Lost Dog" or "Garage Sale"?
 
2014-01-20 01:19:59 PM  
At least he didn't forget Poland!
 
2014-01-20 01:33:19 PM  
This seems incomprehensible even by the usual Sovereign Citizen standards, which at least tends to be recognizable as a Cargo Cult mutation of standard legal jargon.
 
2014-01-20 02:24:19 PM  
Man.  Now I want to know what the rest of it said.
 
2014-01-20 02:31:27 PM  
Had to look up Gen 4:17

"And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch."


I was expecting something crazier.
 
2014-01-20 02:32:00 PM  
Send in P. Barnes.
 
2014-01-20 02:33:52 PM  
www.splcenter.org

Congratulations,  you debated two trees
 
2014-01-20 02:39:11 PM  
Mark Kulis, 55, was armed but arrested without incident by Franklin County sheriff's deputies who waited for him to leave the residence before making the arrest at a nearby car wash

These poor deputies were clearly lacking a SWAT team, armor support, and a helicopter.

So sad.
 
2014-01-20 02:41:59 PM  
He looks a lot like I expected.
wcmh.images.worldnow.com
 
2014-01-20 02:57:22 PM  
SPLC once again portrays mental illness as a hate crime.
 
2014-01-20 03:04:40 PM  
Less sovereign citizen and more mentally ill. He appears to be schizophrenic. Anti authoritarian leanings are not uncommon with people afflicted. It's possible to be sane (if gullible) and part of the racist sovereign citizen movement. This guy is clearly not that.
 
2014-01-20 03:08:52 PM  
Always a liberal!
 
2014-01-20 03:10:30 PM  
Why are we infringing on this guy's 2nd amendment rights?
 
2014-01-20 03:11:31 PM  

Headso: [www.splcenter.org image 595x407]

Congratulations,  you debated two trees


Isn't that like most Free Republic threads?.
 
2014-01-20 03:16:16 PM  
Plantagenet?  Like Richard III?
 
2014-01-20 03:19:35 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: SPLC once again portrays mental illness as a hate crime.


Can't it be both?
 
2014-01-20 03:22:16 PM  

DrBenway: Plantagenet
$
Vesture


Apparently we are still fighting the War of the Roses.  I'd better buy stock in Avalon Hill.
 
2014-01-20 03:23:01 PM  
"Sovereign Citizen" is just another word for "Arrogant Stupid Selfish Asshole".
 
2014-01-20 03:23:48 PM  
"It wasn't clear what purpose the bombs were meant to serve."

Blowing stuff up?
 
2014-01-20 03:25:53 PM  

lockers: Less sovereign citizen and more mentally ill. He appears to be schizophrenic. Anti authoritarian leanings are not uncommon with people afflicted. It's possible to be sane (if gullible) and part of the racist sovereign citizen movement. This guy is clearly not that.


So he's INsane and part of the sovereign-citizen movement. He's a menace regardless of his mental health.
 
2014-01-20 03:27:06 PM  
Given his level of rationality and grasp on reality, it is obvious that Mark Kulis is a typical Mainstream Republican. A little smarter than most Republicans, actually - he apparently didn't misspell anything on his Tree of Derp.
 
2014-01-20 03:27:29 PM  
in related news Eric Church's new album "The Outsiders" is due in stores on 2/11

from what I can tell it's very subversive in it's messages and has all the Aryan militiaheads nursing boners.
 
2014-01-20 03:28:11 PM  

Sybarite: Had to look up Gen 4:17

"And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch."


I was expecting something crazier.


actually, because Cain's wife was not listed as a decendent of Eve it is thought she was from the devil.  so saying:
Gen 4:17
Wife
Sec of State

i would decrypt as "Hillary Clinton is from the devil"

should i be worried I could figure that out?
 
2014-01-20 03:31:54 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: He looks a lot like I expected.
[wcmh.images.worldnow.com image 500x289]


Isn't it time to start profiling fat bald white guys with glasses?
 
2014-01-20 03:33:14 PM  

speakandgo: Sybarite: Had to look up Gen 4:17

"And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch."


I was expecting something crazier.

actually, because Cain's wife was not listed as a decendent of Eve it is thought she was from the devil.  so saying:
Gen 4:17
Wife
Sec of State

i would decrypt as "Hillary Clinton is from the devil"

should i be worried I could figure that out?


speakandgo: Sybarite: Had to look up Gen 4:17

"And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch."


I was expecting something crazier.

actually, because Cain's wife was not listed as a decendent of Eve it is thought she was from the devil.  so saying:
Gen 4:17
Wife
Sec of State

i would decrypt as "Hillary Clinton is from the devil"

should i be worried I could figure that out?


No, you should be worried if you agree.
 
2014-01-20 03:34:03 PM  

meat0918: Lenny_da_Hog: SPLC once again portrays mental illness as a hate crime.

Can't it be both?


Yeah, I think that the two usually go together. Every instance I have seen of "Sovereign Citizen" has been some guy off his nut.
 
2014-01-20 03:34:16 PM  
Oh, look, another Responsible Gun Owner.
 
2014-01-20 03:37:35 PM  

Sybarite: Had to look up Gen 4:17

"And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch."


I was expecting something crazier.


There's a comment on the thread that suggests some people say Cain's wife was a spawn of Satan. Long story short, came to the conclusion he's trying to say either Bill or Hilary is the anti-christ or some such.
 
2014-01-20 03:40:02 PM  
FTA: One neighbor told Hatewatch that Kulis was "very religious and would carry a Bible around a lot."

Thats always an obvious warning sign of being a nut. Christianity is such a nasty disease. Everyones out to get you and you have to preventively blow others up murder, in a fit of derpppp.
 
2014-01-20 03:43:48 PM  

gnosis301: Plantagenet?  Like Richard III?


Yeah , that was the first thing that caught my eye too.
 
2014-01-20 03:45:01 PM  
Wasn't the SPLC identified as a Hate Group?
 
2014-01-20 03:47:15 PM  
Government.
Always omnipotent.
Always incompetent.
Always your mortal enemy.
 
2014-01-20 03:49:27 PM  
p.twimg.com
 
2014-01-20 03:49:43 PM  

sheep snorter: FTA: One neighbor told Hatewatch that Kulis was "very religious and would carry a Bible around a lot."

Thats always an obvious warning sign of being a nut. Christianity is such a nasty disease. Everyones out to get you and you have to preventively blow others up murder, in a fit of derpppp.


At least no one tried to claim he was a good neighbour who kept to himself.
 
2014-01-20 03:49:50 PM  
Surprise, surprise, more persecution of conservatives.

Welcome to Obama's AmeriKKKa
 
2014-01-20 03:51:41 PM  

CBob: Wasn't the SPLC identified as a Hate Group?


If it was, it was by people who don't like being called out on their bigotry.
 
2014-01-20 03:51:51 PM  
Well, you know what they say - "Plantagenet Vesture".
 
2014-01-20 03:52:25 PM  

jaytkay: Surprise, surprise, more persecution of conservatives.

Welcome to Obama's AmeriKKKa


Not bad. Not bad at all.
 
2014-01-20 03:53:40 PM  

lockers: Less sovereign citizen and more mentally ill. He appears to be schizophrenic. Anti authoritarian leanings are not uncommon with people afflicted. It's possible to be sane (if gullible) and part of the racist sovereign citizen movement. This guy is clearly not that.


Isn't "Mentally Ill" a prerequisite of being a 'sovereign citizen'?  I know a certain disdain for other people is a given for these folks...
 
2014-01-20 03:54:00 PM  
www.splcenter.org

When I was still working at restaurants, twice we had weird ramblings left in the places. One was a dollar bill on the table, another was a full sized piece of paper completely covered with batshiat insane stuff like this. I managed to claim both of these and still own them. It's amazing what bounces around in people's heads, and they make great conversation pieces to pull out every once in awhile.

Not that I want these people handling dangerous equipment or driving my kid's school bus, but the peek inside their minds is something truly amazing.
 
2014-01-20 03:55:14 PM  

Hector Remarkable: Well, you know what they say - "Plantagenet Vesture".


Damned Plantagenets.  First the Hundred Years War, and now this.  THANKS OBAMA
 
2014-01-20 03:57:05 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: He looks a lot like I expected.
[wcmh.images.worldnow.com image 500x289]


Is that feces on the wall behind him?
 
2014-01-20 03:58:23 PM  
I hope they try him in a courtroom with a fringed flag.
 
2014-01-20 04:04:46 PM  

Mikey1969: [www.splcenter.org image 595x407]

When I was still working at restaurants, twice we had weird ramblings left in the places. One was a dollar bill on the table, another was a full sized piece of paper completely covered with batshiat insane stuff like this. I managed to claim both of these and still own them. It's amazing what bounces around in people's heads, and they make great conversation pieces to pull out every once in awhile.

Not that I want these people handling dangerous equipment or driving my kid's school bus, but the peek inside their minds is something truly amazing.


I used to work at a Radio Shack. There was crazy guy who would walk around the neighborhood and occasionally come into the store. Sometimes he would walk in, say something crazy and then immediately walk out. We had security cameras all over the store. I had a special tape that I would pop in to record him when he came in. I had at least two hours of recordings before my manager accidentally recorded over it. I was very sad when that happened.

I still remember that he lived in a trailer and was convinced that the CIA was spying on him. Almost all of his rants somehow involved the CIA.
 
2014-01-20 04:07:53 PM  

Wyalt Derp: "It wasn't clear what purpose the bombs were meant to serve."

Blowing stuff up?


My first thought. Isn't that why one makes a bomb: To explode?
 
2014-01-20 04:09:07 PM  

A Cave Geek: lockers: Less sovereign citizen and more mentally ill. He appears to be schizophrenic. Anti authoritarian leanings are not uncommon with people afflicted. It's possible to be sane (if gullible) and part of the racist sovereign citizen movement. This guy is clearly not that.

Isn't "Mentally Ill" a prerequisite of being a 'sovereign citizen'?  I know a certain disdain for other people is a given for these folks...


Certainly the notable examples seem to be of the mentally bent variety. The movement it self came out of the christian identity movement. Extremely racist and dubious christianity. Those people aren't insane as much as dumb bigots.
 
2014-01-20 04:10:37 PM  
Windows in his home, along with a front screen door and a tree in his front yard, were plastered with hard-to-decipher signs and references to sovereign citizens, most of whom believe they are immune to many tax and criminal laws.

I assume that means they also forgo using anything derived from those taxes, such as roads, bridges and other infrastructure?

No? Oh so they're just paranoid hypocrites? Gotcha.
 
2014-01-20 04:13:09 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Wyalt Derp: "It wasn't clear what purpose the bombs were meant to serve."

Blowing stuff up?

My first thought. Isn't that why one makes a bomb: To explode?


"A bomb is made to explode. That's its meaning. Its purpose. Your life is empty because you spend it trying to stop the bomb from becoming. And for who? For what? You know what a bomb is, Jack, that doesn't explode? It's a cheap gold watch, buddy."
images1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-01-20 04:14:45 PM  
Where I was working last, a letter received from this known nutjob was photocopied and passed around. All identifying info had been blacked out, but I googled a reference made within the letter and found her website. The more I read, the more I felt supremely saddened that mental illness of this degree is left unchecked and unregulated.
 
2014-01-20 04:16:25 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Wyalt Derp: "It wasn't clear what purpose the bombs were meant to serve."

Blowing stuff up?

My first thought. Isn't that why one makes a bomb: To explode?


Your putting too much logic into it.  Here, let me try: (spinning my office chair around)...jacket..pushpin...magnet..sunbeams.

Ok, it's because of that Jackal Putin's Magnet rays.
 
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