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(Bleacher Report)   One Seahawks fan possibly could have thrown around ten pieces of popcorn down on Navarro Bowman as he was carted off the field. This naturally means all Seahawks fans are the worst people ever and that Peyton Manning will be on Mount Rushmore   (bleacherreport.com ) divider line
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2014-01-20 07:33:45 PM  

IAmRight: As for the roughing the punter penalty people wanted called, here's the rulebook.

Show me anywhere it says "Plant leg 15 yards, kicking leg 5."

It's not in there because...that's not the rule.


It's actually in there:

oi40.tinypic.com http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/rulebook/pdfs/20 13%2 0-%20Rule%20Book.pdf
 
2014-01-20 07:35:03 PM  
To be fair, when you GIS "NFL Rulebook" it gives you the 2011 version for some reason. Not the 2013 (which has the explicit note about plant legs).
 
2014-01-20 07:39:29 PM  

netweavr: ongbok: lennavan: IAmRight: Show me anywhere it says "Plant leg 15 yards, kicking leg 5."

Running into kicker= hitting kicking leg. Roughing= hitting plant leg or a portion of kicker's body.

https://twitter.com/MikePereira/status/150701369035202561

I'm pretty sure Mike Pereira knows the rulebook better than both of us.

What if the defensive player is on the ground and the punters kicking momentum brings his plant leg into contact with the player? That is what happened on that play.

If that had happened, his plant leg wouldn't have already been planted.

Also the rulebook states:
It is a foul for roughing the kicker if a defensive player:
(a) contacts the plant leg of the kicker while his kicking leg is still in the air


You conveniently ignored this from your same link

term 2: Running into the Kicker
.
It is a foul for running into the kicker if a defensive player:
(a) contacts the kicking foot of the kicker, even if the kicker is airborne when the contact occurs; or
(b) slides under the kicker, preventing him from returning both feet to the ground.

That is what happened on that play.
 
2014-01-20 07:41:26 PM  

taxandspend: lennavan: IAmRight: As for the roughing the punter penalty people wanted called, here's the rulebook.

Show me anywhere it says "Plant leg 15 yards, kicking leg 5."

It's not in there because...that's not the rule.

It's actually in there:

[oi40.tinypic.com image 759x406] http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/rulebook/pd fs/20 13%2 0-%20Rule%20Book.pdf

So going by that rule, if the refs didn't see the contact as severe, then they made the right call of running into the kick because the defender slid under the kicker preventing both feet from touching the ground?


Listen, I'm a Seattle fan but it's clear you can't run/bump into the plant leg. He did. The Seahawks were fortunate on that call.
 
2014-01-20 07:43:27 PM  

ongbok: netweavr: ongbok: lennavan: IAmRight: Show me anywhere it says "Plant leg 15 yards, kicking leg 5."

Running into kicker= hitting kicking leg. Roughing= hitting plant leg or a portion of kicker's body.

https://twitter.com/MikePereira/status/150701369035202561

I'm pretty sure Mike Pereira knows the rulebook better than both of us.

What if the defensive player is on the ground and the punters kicking momentum brings his plant leg into contact with the player? That is what happened on that play.

If that had happened, his plant leg wouldn't have already been planted.

Also the rulebook states:
It is a foul for roughing the kicker if a defensive player:
(a) contacts the plant leg of the kicker while his kicking leg is still in the air

You conveniently ignored this from your same link

term 2: Running into the Kicker
.
It is a foul for running into the kicker if a defensive player:
(a) contacts the kicking foot of the kicker, even if the kicker is airborne when the contact occurs; or
(b) slides under the kicker, preventing him from returning both feet to the ground.

That is what happened on that play.


His plant leg was on the ground. That's how his ankle got jacked up. Also:
Note: When in doubt, it is a foul for roughing the kicker
 
2014-01-20 07:46:29 PM  
Here, make your own judgements.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-zhbaytdfAyg/UtyCuwt1bVI/AAAAAAABBKE/6ZFCTe_ J ddQ/s1600/0.gif
 
2014-01-20 07:47:13 PM  

taxandspend: Cletus C.: taxandspend: lennavan: IAmRight: As for the roughing the punter penalty people wanted called, here's the rulebook.

Show me anywhere it says "Plant leg 15 yards, kicking leg 5."

It's not in there because...that's not the rule.

It's actually in there:

[oi40.tinypic.com image 759x406] http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/rulebook/pd fs/20 13%2 0-%20Rule%20Book.pdf

So going by that rule, if the refs didn't see the contact as severe, then they made the right call of running into the kick because the defender slid under the kicker preventing both feet from touching the ground?

Listen, I'm a Seattle fan but it's clear you can't run/bump into the plant leg. He did. The Seahawks were fortunate on that call.

Hey I thought the same thing. But it says right there in the rulebook that if the contact is not severe it's not a foul. It's all in the cataract encrusted eyes of the refs.


The light contact caveat is only if both of the punter's feet are down already. That's why it's only in part B of the roughing rule.
 
2014-01-20 07:48:22 PM  

JohnBigBootay: Dogfacedgod: Seattle fans are the biggest cry baby pieces of shiat fans in the sports world. They pat them selves on their back and steal the "12th man" from a collge team (TA&M) and claim it as themselves.

Be fair now. They did not 'steal' the 12th man from A&M, they paid them six figures and an annual licensing fee to be able to use it.

If it were me I'd have said, 'Wait, someone else not only already uses it, but they use it for the exact same purpose and but they legally own it and we'll have to pay a,licensing fee? Well, fark, let's just call ourselves something else then...."

But that's me. What will be amusing is when the current deal is up in 2016. Something tells me the price to use that phrase will be going up a fair amount...

http://www.goodbullhunting.com/2014/1/19/5271954/12th-man-trademark- li censing-agreement-texas-am-aggies-seattle-seahawks


You know the Aggies' can't stop the fans from using it. Nor can they stop the Seahawks from raising the number #12 flag or making #12 jersies that say "Fan" on the back. All they can do is stop the team from using "The 12th Man". There is reason the license is only $5000 per year.... Because the Aggies just wanted it for legal reasons and they knew the Seahawks didn't care because don't technically have to use "The 12th Man" themselves if they don't want to. It is just nice to be able to do so via a cheap licensing agreement.
 
2014-01-20 07:50:48 PM  
The Seasmawks are definitely no-class,

i'll be laughing when the great PEY-TON tears them a new one
 
2014-01-20 07:50:55 PM  

taxandspend: So going by that rule, if the refs didn't see the contact as severe, then they made the right call of running into the kick because the defender slid under the kicker preventing both feet from touching the ground?


Well the former vice president of officiating for the NFL had access to seeing the play at whatever angle and speed he wanted and disagrees with you.  And the rule book says if there is any ambiguity to err on the side of roughing.  And there's this gif clearly demonstrating the plant leg got nailed:

But you're probably right.
 
2014-01-20 07:52:17 PM  

lennavan: taxandspend: So going by that rule, if the refs didn't see the contact as severe, then they made the right call of running into the kick because the defender slid under the kicker preventing both feet from touching the ground?

Well the former vice president of officiating for the NFL had access to seeing the play at whatever angle and speed he wanted and disagrees with you.  And the rule book says if there is any ambiguity to err on the side of roughing.  And there's this gif clearly demonstrating the plant leg got nailed:


http://fansided.com/2014/01/19/san-francisco-49ers-andy-lees-ankle-g et s-rolled-punting-seahawks-gif/

But you're probably right.

Let me try again, or with a link instead.
 
2014-01-20 07:53:27 PM  

lennavan: taxandspend: So going by that rule, if the refs didn't see the contact as severe, then they made the right call of running into the kick because the defender slid under the kicker preventing both feet from touching the ground?

Well the former vice president of officiating for the NFL had access to seeing the play at whatever angle and speed he wanted and disagrees with you.  And the rule book says if there is any ambiguity to err on the side of roughing.  And there's this gif clearly demonstrating the plant leg got nailed:

But you're probably right.


"nailed" is a pretty bad word for it. It was contacted though and should have been Roughing.

The rule goes like this - any contact on the plant leg when the kicking foot is in the air is roughing. If both feet are down, light contact is not a foul, but heavy contact still constitutes roughing.
 
2014-01-20 07:53:38 PM  
I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the Seahawks ban the fan who did this, if they find him.

That goes for any team in the league.
 
2014-01-20 07:55:06 PM  

Shame Us: lennavan: taxandspend: So going by that rule, if the refs didn't see the contact as severe, then they made the right call of running into the kick because the defender slid under the kicker preventing both feet from touching the ground?

Well the former vice president of officiating for the NFL had access to seeing the play at whatever angle and speed he wanted and disagrees with you.  And the rule book says if there is any ambiguity to err on the side of roughing.  And there's this gif clearly demonstrating the plant leg got nailed:

But you're probably right.

"nailed" is a pretty bad word for it. It was contacted though and should have been Roughing.

The rule goes like this - any contact on the plant leg when the kicking foot is in the air is roughing. If both feet are down, light contact is not a foul, but heavy contact still constitutes roughing.


It was a bit more than contacted.  Maybe nailed isn't the right word but watch that gif and tell me it doesn't look painful to be the kicker.
 
2014-01-20 07:55:19 PM  

netweavr: ongbok: netweavr: ongbok: lennavan: IAmRight: Show me anywhere it says "Plant leg 15 yards, kicking leg 5."

Running into kicker= hitting kicking leg. Roughing= hitting plant leg or a portion of kicker's body.

https://twitter.com/MikePereira/status/150701369035202561

I'm pretty sure Mike Pereira knows the rulebook better than both of us.

What if the defensive player is on the ground and the punters kicking momentum brings his plant leg into contact with the player? That is what happened on that play.

If that had happened, his plant leg wouldn't have already been planted.

Also the rulebook states:
It is a foul for roughing the kicker if a defensive player:
(a) contacts the plant leg of the kicker while his kicking leg is still in the air

You conveniently ignored this from your same link

term 2: Running into the Kicker
.
It is a foul for running into the kicker if a defensive player:
(a) contacts the kicking foot of the kicker, even if the kicker is airborne when the contact occurs; or
(b) slides under the kicker, preventing him from returning both feet to the ground.

That is what happened on that play.

His plant leg was on the ground. That's how his ankle got jacked up. Also:
Note: When in doubt, it is a foul for roughing the kicker


Looking at the play again his foot was on the ground a split second before he slid into it. So maybe by rule it should have been called roughing, but since the on field refs don't have the luxury of slow motion and different camera angles you can't blame them for making that call on a bang bang play like that.
 
2014-01-20 07:58:59 PM  

ongbok: netweavr: ongbok: netweavr: ongbok: lennavan: IAmRight: Show me anywhere it says "Plant leg 15 yards, kicking leg 5."

Running into kicker= hitting kicking leg. Roughing= hitting plant leg or a portion of kicker's body.

https://twitter.com/MikePereira/status/150701369035202561

I'm pretty sure Mike Pereira knows the rulebook better than both of us.

What if the defensive player is on the ground and the punters kicking momentum brings his plant leg into contact with the player? That is what happened on that play.

If that had happened, his plant leg wouldn't have already been planted.

Also the rulebook states:
It is a foul for roughing the kicker if a defensive player:
(a) contacts the plant leg of the kicker while his kicking leg is still in the air

You conveniently ignored this from your same link

term 2: Running into the Kicker
.
It is a foul for running into the kicker if a defensive player:
(a) contacts the kicking foot of the kicker, even if the kicker is airborne when the contact occurs; or
(b) slides under the kicker, preventing him from returning both feet to the ground.

That is what happened on that play.

His plant leg was on the ground. That's how his ankle got jacked up. Also:
Note: When in doubt, it is a foul for roughing the kicker

Looking at the play again his foot was on the ground a split second before he slid into it. So maybe by rule it should have been called roughing, but since the on field refs don't have the luxury of slow motion and different camera angles you can't blame them for making that call on a bang bang play like that.


Bang-bang play would fall under the caveat noted in the rulebook above. Bad calls happen, sure, but accept that they are bad calls. That random elbow(?) on the sideline not getting flagged, bad call. Bowman's fumble recovery going to Seattle, bad call. Harbaugh's sense of style, bad call.
 
2014-01-20 08:00:05 PM  

ongbok: Looking at the play again his foot was on the ground a split second before he slid into it. So maybe by rule it should have been called roughing, but since the on field refs don't have the luxury of slow motion and different camera angles you can't blame them for making that call on a bang bang play like that.


The rule clearly states if they are not sure, they should call it roughing.

Note:  When in doubt, it is a foul for roughing the kicker.  It's right in front of your eyes dude.  The ref threw the flag.  He then had to think "am I completely sure he didn't hit the plant foot?"  To that question the ref answered "yes, I am completely sure."  It was a blown call.

I promise, if you type the words "It was a blown call" the NFL will not vacate the Seattle victory.  Seattle will still go to the Super Bowl.
img.fark.net
 
2014-01-20 08:00:06 PM  

lennavan: Shame Us: lennavan: taxandspend: So going by that rule, if the refs didn't see the contact as severe, then they made the right call of running into the kick because the defender slid under the kicker preventing both feet from touching the ground?

Well the former vice president of officiating for the NFL had access to seeing the play at whatever angle and speed he wanted and disagrees with you.  And the rule book says if there is any ambiguity to err on the side of roughing.  And there's this gif clearly demonstrating the plant leg got nailed:

But you're probably right.

"nailed" is a pretty bad word for it. It was contacted though and should have been Roughing.

The rule goes like this - any contact on the plant leg when the kicking foot is in the air is roughing. If both feet are down, light contact is not a foul, but heavy contact still constitutes roughing.

It was a bit more than contacted.  Maybe nailed isn't the right word but watch that gif and tell me it doesn't look painful to be the kicker.


Oh it certainly looks like one of those "OW F*CKF*CKF*CK" things that hurt like crazy for 5 minutes and are then relatively OK. The way the contact occurred, I don't think a ton of force was required to roll his ankle like that. Just managed to get there right at the wrong time and contact right on the side of the ankle. Still, should have been ruled a Roughing penalty.
 
2014-01-20 08:01:26 PM  
Not flagging Harbaugh for going onto the field to argue that bad call? Bad call.

/ They really should crack down on staff leaving the sidelines.
 
2014-01-20 08:08:17 PM  

netweavr: ongbok: netweavr: ongbok: netweavr: ongbok: lennavan: IAmRight: Show me anywhere it says "Plant leg 15 yards, kicking leg 5."

Running into kicker= hitting kicking leg. Roughing= hitting plant leg or a portion of kicker's body.

https://twitter.com/MikePereira/status/150701369035202561

I'm pretty sure Mike Pereira knows the rulebook better than both of us.

What if the defensive player is on the ground and the punters kicking momentum brings his plant leg into contact with the player? That is what happened on that play.

If that had happened, his plant leg wouldn't have already been planted.

Also the rulebook states:
It is a foul for roughing the kicker if a defensive player:
(a) contacts the plant leg of the kicker while his kicking leg is still in the air

You conveniently ignored this from your same link

term 2: Running into the Kicker
.
It is a foul for running into the kicker if a defensive player:
(a) contacts the kicking foot of the kicker, even if the kicker is airborne when the contact occurs; or
(b) slides under the kicker, preventing him from returning both feet to the ground.

That is what happened on that play.

His plant leg was on the ground. That's how his ankle got jacked up. Also:
Note: When in doubt, it is a foul for roughing the kicker

Looking at the play again his foot was on the ground a split second before he slid into it. So maybe by rule it should have been called roughing, but since the on field refs don't have the luxury of slow motion and different camera angles you can't blame them for making that call on a bang bang play like that.

Bang-bang play would fall under the caveat noted in the rulebook above. Bad calls happen, sure, but accept that they are bad calls. That random elbow(?) on the sideline not getting flagged, bad call. Bowman's fumble recovery going to Seattle, bad call. Harbaugh's sense of style, bad call.


In the officials mind, from how he saw it from his position, it may have looked like he was still in the air. We have the benefit of different camera angles and picking the best angle to view it from. The official only can call it from how he saw it. And you can't honestly say that from a different angle it didn't look like he was till in the air. And the officials did huddle, and it seems that none of them saw it any different.
 
2014-01-20 08:11:08 PM  

taxandspend: Kaepernick clearly kicking a fumbled ball away from Seahawks players...


Excellent point.  It appeared everyone missed that one.  He intentionally kicked the ball forward, illegally advancing the fumbled ball and it resulted in a SF O linemen with the fumble recovery plus a two-yard run gain.

Seattle still gets a 13th man with the much much more favorable refs when they play at home.  I think NFL refs are scared of Seattle fans.
 
2014-01-20 08:13:16 PM  

SlothB77: taxandspend: Kaepernick clearly kicking a fumbled ball away from Seahawks players...

Excellent point.  It appeared everyone missed that one.  He intentionally kicked the ball forward, illegally advancing the fumbled ball and it resulted in a SF O linemen with the fumble recovery plus a two-yard run gain.

Seattle still gets a 13th man with the much much more favorable refs when they play at home.  I think NFL refs are scared of Seattle fans.


SF - 7 flags 65 yds
SEA - 8 flags 66yds.
 
2014-01-20 08:16:23 PM  

Cybernetic: I am genuinely surprised that Skittles aren't being produced in Seahawks colors for sale in the Seattle area.


I'm amazed Mars hasn't gone and pounded a hole in Lynch's door offering him spokesman contracts yet...
 
2014-01-20 08:20:06 PM  

netweavr: Also, I just looked up this year's rulebook.


Whoops, hey, you're right.

/didn't put the year in the search for the rulebook - just assumed they keep 'em up-to-date.
//still think that 15 yards and a free first down is a bit much for what that play deserved - dude WAS on the ground well before Lee's foot jumped a yard forward and got contacted
///we'll never know if he'd have been okay with punting again since Kaepernick turned it over every possession after that
 
2014-01-20 08:27:47 PM  

SlothB77: taxandspend: Kaepernick clearly kicking a fumbled ball away from Seahawks players...

Excellent point.  It appeared everyone missed that one.  He intentionally kicked the ball forward, illegally advancing the fumbled ball and it resulted in a SF O linemen with the fumble recovery plus a two-yard run gain.


I didn't miss that one.  I saw it and called it real time during the game.  But also the refs would have to have been convinced he purposely kicked it versus he accidentally did in the process of being knocked to the ground.  As a fan rooting for Seattle I get to conclusively say he did it.  As an impartial ref, I couldn't say that.

SlothB77: Seattle still gets a 13th man with the much much more favorable refs when they play at home.


LOL I KNOW.  Like that time the refs didn't call that holding on Sherman when it was 3rd down and the 49ers punted the ball rather than marching it down to score a touchdown?  Oh wait.
 
2014-01-20 08:48:57 PM  
I guess the NFC West fans are the new SEC fans with all the "we play in the toughest conference in the NFL" bullshiat.

Maybe if one of the four teams had won a championship this century you would be taken more seriously.
 
2014-01-20 08:51:35 PM  

Agent Nick Fury: I guess the NFC West fans are the new SEC fans with all the "we play in the toughest conference in the NFL" bullshiat.

Maybe if one of the four teams had won a championship this century you would be taken more seriously.


Don't be so mad, guy whose team can't make the playoffs.
 
2014-01-20 08:58:47 PM  

E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: The Seasmawks are definitely no-class,

i'll be laughing when the great PEY-TON tears them a new one


*checks profile*

Yep. Another one from SF.

AGAIN, you cannot has shot at another Lombardi!!! Have some cheese with your whine.

I have no dog in this hunt, but you're lucky SF isn't going to the SB. If Denver is going to tear SEA a new one, as you say, they'd tear SF untold new ones. Your 49ers just aren't good enough yet. Deal with it.
 
2014-01-20 08:59:29 PM  

Agent Nick Fury: I guess the NFC West fans are the new SEC fans with all the "we play in the toughest conference in the NFL" bullshiat.

Maybe if one of the four teams had won a championship this century you would be taken more seriously.


If Seattle wins this year it means that the Cardinals will join San Diego, Buffalo, and Philadelphia as Junior Members of a division. That last team in a division that never quite has enough oomph to win it all vafter all the other members do. If Seattle doesnt win then the Cards still have a chance to make Seattle the sad Junior Member of the NFC West another year. Junior Members are as of now 0-7 in Super Bowl appearances.
 
2014-01-20 09:03:37 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Sherman has apologized, according to ESPN.


"Obviously I could have worded things better and could obviously have had a better reaction and done things differently," he said during the interview. "But it is what it is now, and people's reactions are what they are."
Later, Sherman issued an apology in a text to ESPN's Ed Werder.
"I apologize for attacking an individual and taking the attention away from the fantastic game by my teammates... That was not my intent," Sherman said via text.


He made an important win all about himself.  He finally apologized because more mature and important people around him told him to stop being such a cock.  But the damage is done.
 
2014-01-20 09:20:19 PM  

IAmRight: Agent Nick Fury: I guess the NFC West fans are the new SEC fans with all the "we play in the toughest conference in the NFL" bullshiat.

Maybe if one of the four teams had won a championship this century you would be taken more seriously.

Don't be so mad, guy whose team can't make the playoffs.


Again, the key word is "team" - my team didn't make the playoffs but there is no way in hell I would be rooting for the Bengals or Ravens because they're "in my division".
 
2014-01-20 09:21:11 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Sherman has apologized, according to ESPN.


"Obviously I could have worded things better and could obviously have had a better reaction and done things differently," he said during the interview. "But it is what it is now, and people's reactions are what they are."
Later, Sherman issued an apology in a text to ESPN's Ed Werder.
"I apologize for attacking an individual and taking the attention away from the fantastic game by my teammates... That was not my intent," Sherman said via text.

He made an important win all about himself.  He finally apologized because more mature and important people around him told him to stop being such a cock.  But the damage is done.


What damage? The people who mater really didn't care, as far as I know there hasn't been any response from the Seahawks or the NFL, and the people that were outraged, because of the actions of a very vocal group, have been painted as a bunch of frothing racist. Sherman has come out of this fine, especially after his apology. If anything this is probably going to get him some endorsement deals and maybe some off season commentary work.
 
2014-01-20 09:29:33 PM  

taxandspend: Agent Nick Fury: IAmRight: Agent Nick Fury: I guess the NFC West fans are the new SEC fans with all the "we play in the toughest conference in the NFL" bullshiat.

Maybe if one of the four teams had won a championship this century you would be taken more seriously.

Don't be so mad, guy whose team can't make the playoffs.

Again, the key word is "team" - my team didn't make the playoffs but there is no way in hell I would be rooting for the Bengals or Ravens because they're "in my division".

Because 49ers fans, Rams fans and Arizona fans are just lining up to root for the Seahawks at the Super Bowl. This may come as a shock to you but we really don't like the other teams in this division. That's why our players tend to beat the shiat out of one another each time we play. My dad, the staunch 49ers fan, let me know last night he's jumping on the Broncos bandwagon.



I think what's important here is Agent Nick Fury imagined it to be true and really, who can argue with that?
 
2014-01-20 09:43:11 PM  
i1182.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-20 09:43:30 PM  
Anybody else think they should drug test Sherman because of his clear amphetamine abuser and Roid Rage-like symptoms he showed during that interview?
 
2014-01-20 09:49:00 PM  

Captain Steroid: [i1182.photobucket.com image 460x417]


If you are trying to show that ogrish type photos you could post are worse than the pony photos you normally do post then congratulations it worked. Please dont escalate to snuff photos. Horrible injury photos are enough kthnxbye.

PS no theisman pics too plz,
 
2014-01-20 09:51:31 PM  

mikaloyd: Anybody else think they should drug test Sherman because of his clear amphetamine abuser and Roid Rage-like symptoms he showed during that interview?


I have 20 posts in this thread, I'm sure the majority of which are arguing that Sherman was a dick.  If you think that was evidence Sherman should be drug tested, then you're just a pissed off 49ers fan stupid.
 
2014-01-20 09:56:28 PM  

IAmRight: As for the roughing the punter penalty people wanted called, here's the rulebook.

Show me anywhere it says "Plant leg 15 yards, kicking leg 5."

It's not in there because...that's not the rule. But hey, let's continue to have the sorry Fox No. 1 team f*ck up everyone's perception of every game.

/good god, Lee gets a ton of power in those kicks - his plant leg jumped a yard forward just from the momentum from the kick.


Wasn't it the ex-ref that FOX uses who quoted the rule? But I don't remember the difference between roughing and running being defined by what leg you hit.
 
2014-01-20 09:57:59 PM  

lennavan: mikaloyd: Anybody else think they should drug test Sherman because of his clear amphetamine abuser and Roid Rage-like symptoms he showed during that interview?

I have 20 posts in this thread, I'm sure the majority of which are arguing that Sherman was a dick.  If you think that was evidence Sherman should be drug tested, then you're just a pissed off 49ers fan stupid.


If he isnt taking drugs he wlll pass a test. If he is it will explain why he was not "WOO HOOO WE ARE GOING TO THE SUPERBOWL!" like basically every player ever before in his situation and was more "YOU NEVER TALK ABOUT ME!!!!" like virtually every paranoid speed freak and roid rager ever.
 
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2014-01-20 10:00:01 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Sherman has apologized, according to ESPN.


"Obviously I could have worded things better and could obviously have had a better reaction and done things differently," he said during the interview. "But it is what it is now, and people's reactions are what they are."
Later, Sherman issued an apology in a text to ESPN's Ed Werder.
"I apologize for attacking an individual and taking the attention away from the fantastic game by my teammates... That was not my intent," Sherman said via text.


So he went off in a on-field interview...then, went to the locker, showered, had time to cool off, then went to the podium interview and dropped about a half-dozen "mediocre" references...but now he says it wasn't his intent?

C'mon man. That's just weak. You'd be cooler if you straight up owned it. Now you're just a sad hothead.
 
2014-01-20 10:08:25 PM  

mikaloyd: lennavan: mikaloyd: Anybody else think they should drug test Sherman because of his clear amphetamine abuser and Roid Rage-like symptoms he showed during that interview?

I have 20 posts in this thread, I'm sure the majority of which are arguing that Sherman was a dick.  If you think that was evidence Sherman should be drug tested, then you're just a pissed off 49ers fan stupid.

If he isnt taking drugs he wlll pass a test. If he is it will explain why he was not "WOO HOOO WE ARE GOING TO THE SUPERBOWL!" like basically every player ever before in his situation and was more "YOU NEVER TALK ABOUT ME!!!!" like virtually every paranoid speed freak and roid rager ever.


Sorry, I didn't realize you didn't see the game and were unfamiliar with the game of American Football.  The (team) Seahawks played the (team) 49ers.  Richard Sherman is a "cornerback."  That means he tries to stop the "wide receivers."  Basically the last play of the game (that mattered) was Richard Sherman (a cornerback) making a play that stopped Michael Crabtree (a wide receiver that had been talking shiat about him for a long time).  So when Richard Sherman talked a ton of shiat to the camera like a dick, that was because Michael Crabtree had been talking shiat for a long time.

Now I know this is new to you and is perhaps a subject that you will not understand.  The best I can think of is to try to put you in Richard Sherman's position.  Would it be alright if every time you post I talk shiat about you for a few weeks?  At the end of it, we can see if you still feel super terrific about me or if you're kinda upset.
 
2014-01-20 10:12:24 PM  
lennavan:  The best I can think of is to try to put you in Richard Sherman's position. Would it be alright if every time you post I talk shiat about you for a few weeks? At the end of it, we can see if you still feel super terrific about me or if you're kinda upset.

You seem to be on that path already. Also you seem to want to prevent Sherman from getting the help he needs for his habit.
 
2014-01-20 10:22:41 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-01-20 10:23:28 PM  

Captain Steroid: [i1182.photobucket.com image 460x417]


Freak'n cold, dude.
 
2014-01-20 10:36:27 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Dogfacedgod: Seattle fans are the biggest cry baby pieces of shiat fans in the sports world.  They pat them selves on their back and steal the "12th man" from a collge team (TA&M) and claim it as themselves.

I remember as a kid growing up that I heard the phrase the 12th man used frequently when describing Seahawks fans.  This was in the 80s.  It just wasn't something that was trademarked, or, if it was, it was loosely enforced.  It was only when Seattle started selling "12" products that I think A&M got upset about it.

A&M trademarking it in 1990 was a genius move on their part.  The phrase had been around for dozens of years before that.


Yes. Texas a&m has used it to identify their fans going back to the twenties and has consistently since then. One other school did even earlier but they didn't really keep it going I guess.
 
2014-01-20 10:48:08 PM  

IAmRight: As for the roughing the punter penalty people wanted called, here's the rulebook.

Show me anywhere it says "Plant leg 15 yards, kicking leg 5."

It's not in there because...that's not the rule. But hey, let's continue to have the sorry Fox No. 1 team f*ck up everyone's perception of every game.

/good god, Lee gets a ton of power in those kicks - his plant leg jumped a yard forward just from the momentum from the kick.


"Show me where..."

Article 10 ( or 12, can't remember) item 1a.

Not that I'd blame the refs. Sometimes you get calls, they git a big one. Enjoy.
 
2014-01-20 10:56:51 PM  

Agent Nick Fury: IAmRight: Agent Nick Fury: I guess the NFC West fans are the new SEC fans with all the "we play in the toughest conference in the NFL" bullshiat.

Maybe if one of the four teams had won a championship this century you would be taken more seriously.

Don't be so mad, guy whose team can't make the playoffs.

Again, the key word is "team" - my team didn't make the playoffs but there is no way in hell I would be rooting for the Bengals or Ravens because they're "in my division".


I don't think anyone was saying that we'd root for the other team within the division. We're just pointing out that we're the best of the best. I'm kinda worried that the Broncos are gonna get that FSU-esque win where they played no one all year but manage to eke out a win against the only good team they play.

Your_Huckleberry: Wasn't it the ex-ref that FOX uses who quoted the rule? But I don't remember the difference between roughing and running being defined by what leg you hit.


As noted earlier, apparently within the last couple years they revised the rule to say such. I already admitted my bad - the link I posted was evidently from 2011, because a google of the NFL Rulebook without the year apparently returns the 2011 one.
 
2014-01-21 12:07:24 AM  

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: The_Sponge: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: The_Sponge: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: The quote from Richard Sherman was very eloquent and well said.  No doubt it was written by the same guy who was interviewed by Erin Andrews last night.


Oh shut up.  Where did you go to college?

Same engineering university for both my undergrad and masters.  But I sure, I is teh dumb.


Well good for you...now maybe you can objectively think about things and realize that Sherman wrote that piece himself.

You are so absolutely right- there is no way on God's green earth that a PR person composed that. No way at all.


It's not likely.  You do know that Sherman writes his own articles all the time, right?  You can frequently find him as a guest writer on MMQB...and he's excellent at it, too.

Anyone who thinks Sherman is nothing but a loudmouthed asshole, listen up:   you're ignorant, and don't know anything about Richard Sherman.  Learn a thing or two, and then, you still don't have to like him, but you need to at least recognize you're not talking about TO or Chad Johnson.
 
2014-01-21 12:10:33 AM  
Iamright

You did not just invoke 'they didn't plan anybody' for the super bowl. Dude, the Seahawks division is better, sure. That's fine. But every team in every division 'plays somebody' in the nfl - this ain't Saturday football.
 
2014-01-21 12:23:49 AM  
Karmachameleon

I don't want our need to learn anything about Sherman. I already know he's a great player and a smart guy. But I don't owe it to him to try to find explanations or reasons to forgive him. All I said was he acted like a jackass. For what it's worth I'm pretty sure he'd agree. I'd bet my left nut he'll say as much himself one day in print once he's got a few more years on him.
 
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