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(Seven Days)   Here's a nice little article about how restaurants cope with your made up allergies, you fragile snowflakes   (7dvt.com ) divider line
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2014-01-20 12:50:25 PM  
11 votes:

Inquisitive Inquisitor: My avocado allergy can honestly kill me and I carry an epipen, so I'm pretty sure it's not made up.

I am a fragile snowflake though.


At least you have a real reaction. My cousin just got elected to the school board with three other parents. The newest initiative: You have to bring in medical documentation of an allergy.

Why? Things were getting out of farking hand. You won't believe how the 3 parents (who promptly whined) whose kids supposedly have food allergies reacted. 'Take our kids to the doctor? Verify that they have an actual allergy? Forsooth!'

The allergy card is played all too often today. I wonder how these kids survive trips to the grocery store sometimes. 'Little Tommy has a nut allergy' while mom walks right by a display of peanuts somebody is scooping out into a bag. 'Little Janie is allergic to wheat.' as mom walks by the bakery where wheat flour is in the air.

FFS! There are people with legitimate allergies that are marginalized because you think your precious snowflake might be allergic because you fed them something and it didn't sit well in their tummy. You think the kid is allergic to X product? Take them to the doctor and get the test done, otherwise let the other kids have their PB&J sandwiches and their wheat flour breads.

Not only that, but it'll stop the 'it doesn't agree with your kid's tummy' that parents think are allergies. I think the article used 'intolerance' in it. When you're lactose intolerant, it means you don't digest milk like many people can. Being in the vicinity of milk isn't deadly. Some people who think their kids have nut allergies? The kid's bodies just don't process nuts properly. There isn't a question the kid won't like it if they eat nuts, but they won't have an allergic (and life threatening) reaction to them.
2014-01-20 12:46:25 PM  
8 votes:

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Fark that. Here's the deal: I pay, and you serve me what I ordered.


Why, you wouldn't order a BMW at a Ford dealership ,

They gave you a product list, don't like it go to another product supplier
2014-01-20 12:45:18 PM  
6 votes:
I'm getting to the point now that when I hear the word "gluten" I want to kill someone.
2014-01-20 12:51:20 PM  
4 votes:
img.fark.net
2014-01-20 12:46:47 PM  
4 votes:
My favorite part was where they mentioned it is unknown what is causing all these allergies and sensitivities to suddenly pop up. I have a theory. We've been making the world TOO safe of a place. The weakest herd members are no longer being culled, on a wholesale level. To paraphrase Jeff Goldblum: natural selection uh, finds a way.
2014-01-20 01:38:20 PM  
3 votes:

Prank Call of Cthulhu: "Hi, I'd like the grilled salmon salad, but make sure the croutons are gluten free and I'm allergic to peanuts and shellfish, so make sure my salmon is prepared in a different pan than other fish, and I only eat wild-caught, not farm raised salmon, can I substitute tomatoes--but only if they're completely organically grown--for the mushrooms, and I don't eat any dairy products, so make sure the salmon isn't grilled in butter, and can you bring bottled water instead of tap water and also..."

Later, in the kitchen...[Chef]: "Hurrrrrrrrkhkhkhkhkhkh, phlough!"


I worked in foodservice for a decade, and I NEVER messed with a patron's food. No matter how pissed off they made me. There is no call for that sort of nonsense. That's not to be saying that it doesn't happen, just that I never did it...
2014-01-20 12:55:20 PM  
3 votes:
I realize that Fark has always had a large contingent of delicate little snowflakes who's finely tuned digestive systems can barely tolerate Taco Bell or Mc Donald's But I'm very impressed by the number of "Food Allergies" that have already been expressed in this short thread.

You "allergy" and "intolereant need to stop eating out and ruin it for us normal people,r better yet open your own restaurant and deal exclusively with other pain in the customers such as yourself. You wouldn't last a week if your customers were as "intolerant" as yourselves.
2014-01-20 12:52:05 PM  
3 votes:

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Fark that. Here's the deal: I pay, and you serve me what I ordered.


You sound like a self-entitled "dream customer."
2014-01-20 12:46:38 PM  
3 votes:
No one is allergic to gluten.  An allergy and the autoimmune response to gluten are two different things.

Also, unless diagnoses, I rescues to believe you have a gluten intolerance/celiac.
2014-01-20 12:43:12 PM  
3 votes:
Food allergies are the eraser on the end of God's pencil.
2014-01-20 12:42:35 PM  
3 votes:

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Fark that. Here's the deal: I pay, and you serve me what I ordered off of the menu.


FTFY and the douches in TFA.
2014-01-20 02:04:48 PM  
2 votes:

hubiestubert: The industry is still trying to deal with this issue.

Shellfish and other allergies are nothing to joke about. Nut allergies either. There are items on my menu that are just verbotten for folks with these allergies, and I make no bones about there NOT being any way to make substitutions for these dishes. You can't get a eggless omelet. You can't get a gluten free pasta--at least not at the joint I'm at right now. No tomatoes? Easy. No onions? Don't get the marinara. Can't do nuts, then keep the f*ck away from the pesto. Consumers need to be aware just as much as the staff. No, I'm not going to be able to do a dairy free Alfredo, and you're a damn fool if you order it and think that it can be done. There are reasonable accommodations, and then there is just asinine. Vegan? Easy enough for options, but don't expect me to have tempeh to make a vegan bologonese. Not going to happen.

The article touches on the one of the biggest issues for restaurants: time. We have the ability to work around some things. I can use a sizzle platter to sear something so that it doesn't come in contact with the flat top that has been used for a number of other dishes. I use separate pans for shrimp and fish so that someone who IS allergic to shellfish or has a sensitivity for fish won't order a burger and then start to crottle up and die because there was shrimp proteins on their bun. It's fair easy to not put nuts on a salad, and leave off tomatoes or garlic. The issue is most of the time, in kitchens, folks are working from reflex. You order a salad, it's called off, and the garde manger has the thing 3/4s done before you can blink. That's how kitchens work. The hands know the job, and the mind is working out the timing so that everything can come up at the same time so food doesn't hang out in the window. Special orders take you out of that groove. We hate special orders, not because we hate humanity, but because it takes us out of our zone, and forces us to concentrate on individual ...


Well said.
I had a customer at the wine bar I used to run who would bring his wife in for pizza once in a blue moon. She had celiac.  He would stop by at 3 pm with a gluten-free pizza crust & let me know when they'd be coming in that night.  I'd knock a couple bucks off the price of his pizza.  Everybody was happy.
2014-01-20 01:31:29 PM  
2 votes:
Anybody ever consider that it's the gluten that has changed?

My boy has problems with it (among other things) and guess what? We don't go to restaurants.

The food is better at home, a lot of which is grown in the back yard.
2014-01-20 01:06:12 PM  
2 votes:
Fark: BE AN INDIVIDUAL! BUT FARK YOU IF YOU ARE DIFFERENT FROM OTHER PEOPLE!
2014-01-20 01:02:45 PM  
2 votes:
The precisely accurate terminology is confusing, but plenty of people have genuine adverse reactions to certain foods. The two women behind this blog had multiple sensitivities pop up well into adulthood:

http://survivingthefoodallergyapocalypse.wordpress.com/

They both cook very well and provide many useful recipes.
2014-01-20 12:58:45 PM  
2 votes:

Cold_Sassy: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Fark that. Here's the deal: I pay, and you serve me what I ordered.

You sound like a self-entitled "dream customer."


No, I order from the menu. If I need something done differently, I fully expect to pay for it. If your menu says "No Substitutions", that's fine too. It may be a deal-breaker, but no hard feelings, I'll just go somewhere that I can get what I want.  I also tip well. I was raised on tips, so I understand why they're important.
2014-01-20 12:56:22 PM  
2 votes:
FTFA: "The number of people who have a food allergy is growing, but there is no clear answer as to why."

nyulocal.com

Everyone else is doing it?  Hell, statements like "the number of people who have a food allergy is growing," is partially responsible.  The number of people who claim to have a food allergy is growing.  That I'll believe.

Also FTFA: "I think some people come in with a food intolerance that they think is an allergy."

And guess what, ignorant people are also loud (I think of them as co-morbid disorders).  If you're insecure in your specialness, you're going to pitch a fit to prove how important it is (and how important you are).

Have a serious reaction?  Take it seriously.  You think you're allergic?  Experiment.  Quietly please.
2014-01-20 12:43:22 PM  
2 votes:

Ivan the Tolerable: ZAZ: gluten-free, which is a new fashion

i never really considered the desire to not spend a couple of days of my life writhing in agony on the floor to be a 'fashion'. perhaps you and i define fashion differently.


I think they mean that gluten-free is the new trendy elimination diet, not that people with actual gluten sensitivity or Celiac disease are attempting to be fashionable.
2014-01-20 12:40:50 PM  
2 votes:

ZAZ: gluten-free, which is a new fashion


i never really considered the desire to not spend a couple of days of my life writhing in agony on the floor to be a 'fashion'. perhaps you and i define fashion differently.
2014-01-20 12:39:31 PM  
2 votes:
From the article in question:

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2014-01-20 12:36:04 PM  
2 votes:
Fark that. Here's the deal: I pay, and you serve me what I ordered.
2014-01-21 01:19:33 PM  
1 vote:

glmorrs1: Far Cough: glmorrs1: Epinephrine is a prescription drug.

I also need a prescription if I want to get my own oxygen tank (yes, medical grade oxygen is a prescription drug), IV caterers and administration sets, and lactated ringers. But in this sense, prescription really just means permission from the medical director to carry and administer.

That's what I said, it doesn't make sense.

It really does, giving epinepren to someone with high blood pressure can cause a myocardial infarction (heart attack) or a CVA (stroke).

And giving too much oxygen to a person with COPD could cause the hypoxic drive in their brain to slow their breathing to the point of causing respiratory arrest.


So can hitting them with a hammer, or punching them in the face, or overfeeding them, or poisoning them with bug killer, or giving them something you know they're allergic to, or driving them off a bridge, or shoving a kitchen knife in their chest, or taking a power tool to their body.

That a person with a known dangerous allergy could be restricted from easily acquiring a life saving device because he or she misplaced a prescription slip is NUTSO.

It really doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.  The difference between over the counter and prescription medication seems, to this layman, as more a function of money and time than anything to do with safety.
2014-01-20 06:50:48 PM  
1 vote:
Due to thyroid cancer, every 6 months I have to have a scan that essentially requires me to eliminate iodeine from my diet for 2 to 3 weeks. No iodized salt, no dairy, no seafood. It REALLY sucks. You know what I do? I sit at home and cook my own food from scratch. I'm not going to go bother some chef with my crazy-ass requirements, especially when its impossible to verify, and I'm the one who gets farked if they screw it up.

Now the week after the scan/treatment? EAT AT ALL THE RESTARAUNTS!
2014-01-20 06:05:01 PM  
1 vote:
The waiters and cooks put their peckers into the clam chowder, don't they?
2014-01-20 05:03:36 PM  
1 vote:
Skyd1v: a mixing bowl full of steamed spinach

I could go for that.
2014-01-20 04:02:05 PM  
1 vote:

IronJelly: It's always amusing to me when someone thinks they'll "test" my allergy, by slipping some mustard into something I'm eating.

//yes, mustard.  The seeds of the plant just as much as the condiment make my throat swell up until breathing is a chore.  I'm reasonably sure that my body's response indicates something more serious than dislike or intolerance.


What kind of evil person would do that?  It's happened more than once?  The only time I could even conceive of that happening is if you were clearly delusional about it and VERY close family/friends were absolutely sure you were just wrong and it wouldn't harm you.  But some random joker "testing" you??  That sounds like attempted murder.
2014-01-20 03:38:55 PM  
1 vote:

Egoy3k: ReverendJynxed: Like fast food places, you always order something without an item to make sure they cook it fresh. If you have an allergy and they went the scrape it off route they would be in big trouble. Holding a key item makes sure they have to cook up a new item for you and not give you one of the already made stock sitting under the warmer.

I have some really bad news for you about fast food.  Everything is 'made to order' well more correctly it is 'assembled to order'  your cheeseburger without pickles is no more fresh than one with pickles.


True story... The restaurants I worked in college (which included both sit down and fast food) used to pre-assemble burgers and other menu items without pickles or onions or ketchup and then store them under the warmer. If you ordered one, you likely got a burger that had been sitting there longer than some of the fully assembled ones. If it got close to time to take them off the warmer, and they hadn't sold, we'd slap on the missing ingredient to move them out. Long story short... You're not clever.

There's also the fact that, as Egoy3k points out, the burgers aren't made to order. They're assembled to order. Unless you come in during lunch or dinner rush, you're likely not going to get a burger hot off the grill. They make up 12 or more patties at a time and store them in a warming bin BY THEMSELVES. The condiments and fixings are stored. Sure, they pre-assemble a few to put in the warmer, but for the most part, if you have something special order, they've already got some patties in the warmer with nothing on them. They slap it on a bun with whatever you specified, and there you go.
2014-01-20 03:19:20 PM  
1 vote:

Trillian Astra: Jument: /Crohn's Disease, missing some intestine

You sound like my cousin's husband. My cousin can't cook worth a damn but I make everything from scratch at home for my fiance and I've offered to cook for them once, much to his pleasure. The fiance has gluten issues but only in this country. Back in his home country he can eat bread and pizza to his heart's content. But for some reason he can't digest gluten in the US. Still can't figure it out.


GMO wheat and chemicals used in processing.
2014-01-20 03:15:34 PM  
1 vote:

WordyGrrl: I do not like seafood at all. Something about the smell, taste and texture of the meat just makes me gag, even the fancy stuff like salmon and lobster. Doesn't matter how it's prepared, what sauce you pour on it, or how well you try to hide it in a dish, I will hork it up. And that's not cool. Sometimes it's just easier to tell someone "I'm allergic to seafood" than to hurt their feelings regarding their culinary skills.


Or don't order seafood then?
2014-01-20 02:29:32 PM  
1 vote:
I had really interesting conversations with a member of my family who was born in 1903 about what healthcare was like in her childhood.

No one had allergies (not surprising, the concept of allergies wasn't introduced until 1906) but I would be shocked her stories of how many infants, children and adults just ... died. Sure there were flu epidemics and others, but I wonder how many were just written off as, "these things happen."

And she'd tell stories of the generation before, "My aunt so and so had 9 kids, though only 5 lived."

Sadly, I think the entities most capable to determine the actual vs. perceived increase and possible causes and cures are the same entities least likely to actively pursue it.
2014-01-20 02:20:54 PM  
1 vote:

baconbeard: Skyd1v: Far Cough: DRTA -- is the answer "they lie"?

<snip>

You know who sucks?  Applebee's sucks.  Their vegetarian option is NOTHING.  And it's not as if they make up for it by offering great meat and fish.

Georgio - The owner and head chef at D1vwife's favorite restaurant - has been known to fill a mixing bowl full of steamed spinach and place it with great ceremony in front of anyone who dares to ask for a vegetarian dish in his restaurant.  I've seen him do it twice now and it is hilarious to watch.

/try the veal.
//no, seriously, try it.  It is awesome.

That's awesome! A bowl of freshly clipped Kentucky blue-grass would be even better.


So Georgio is a dickbag then.  God forbid a group of friends or family enjoy his restaurant if one member of the group doesn't eat meat.  Put some actual seasoning on the spinach, fine, that's a dish.  No reason to be a humongous dickbag about it and serve something purposely flavorless to say fark you to a paying customer.  Some "chef".

By the way, by vegetarian option I didn't mean Applebee's necessarily needs to label things "HEY VEGGIE SECTION HERE".  I meant that even after trying, it's nearly impossible to order anything off their menu without meat.  This is not usually a big problem at other restaurants (pasta, egg dishes, cheese dishes, salads, pizza, etc.), both up and down the scale, though of course it doesn't get much further down.

Hell, even Cracker Barrel is more accommodating.
2014-01-20 01:58:29 PM  
1 vote:
The industry is still trying to deal with this issue.

Shellfish and other allergies are nothing to joke about. Nut allergies either. There are items on my menu that are just verbotten for folks with these allergies, and I make no bones about there NOT being any way to make substitutions for these dishes. You can't get a eggless omelet. You can't get a gluten free pasta--at least not at the joint I'm at right now. No tomatoes? Easy. No onions? Don't get the marinara. Can't do nuts, then keep the f*ck away from the pesto. Consumers need to be aware just as much as the staff. No, I'm not going to be able to do a dairy free Alfredo, and you're a damn fool if you order it and think that it can be done. There are reasonable accommodations, and then there is just asinine. Vegan? Easy enough for options, but don't expect me to have tempeh to make a vegan bologonese. Not going to happen.

The article touches on the one of the biggest issues for restaurants: time. We have the ability to work around some things. I can use a sizzle platter to sear something so that it doesn't come in contact with the flat top that has been used for a number of other dishes. I use separate pans for shrimp and fish so that someone who IS allergic to shellfish or has a sensitivity for fish won't order a burger and then start to crottle up and die because there was shrimp proteins on their bun. It's fair easy to not put nuts on a salad, and leave off tomatoes or garlic. The issue is most of the time, in kitchens, folks are working from reflex. You order a salad, it's called off, and the garde manger has the thing 3/4s done before you can blink. That's how kitchens work. The hands know the job, and the mind is working out the timing so that everything can come up at the same time so food doesn't hang out in the window. Special orders take you out of that groove. We hate special orders, not because we hate humanity, but because it takes us out of our zone, and forces us to concentrate on individual plates, as opposed to going by reflex. That slows us down. That causes backlog. It upsets the natural timing, and the whole restaurant is then slowed down because of that. I get four special orders in a row, the next three tables are set back as well. And then there are the folks who imagine that we have a dozen fryers dedicated to each seafood dish, and tell a server that they have a specific allergy, but want a dish just without the offending item, and simply don't realize that the oil itself has already been used for said item. Which means that we have to communicate with said server, who then has to relay that to the customer, who then replaces their order. Educating the staff to run interference to make sure the patron knows that we can't make some accommodations is key, but it doesn't always happen. Waitstaff get busy, they get distracted, it happens, and when it does, it slows down the whole line, ups the stress level, and annoys the crap out of us, because three guys on a line can handle a few hundred folks easy enough, and the backlog created just gums up the works.

You have an allergy, then be aware. Yes, if you have a seafood allergy, you might want to avoid fried foods. You have a dairy allergy, then keep the f*ck away from the pesto. Asking for a vegetarian version of a special is not always an option. Pasta sans sauce is easy, substituting rice for pasta is easy enough, trying to order a marinara without garlic and onions means you're a dumbass, and your stupidity just cost me a few minutes I could have plated two entire tables in the time it takes to communicate with the waitstaff that there is NO way in Hells your request can be granted, even if you're trying to be polite and ask ahead if it is possible. On a busy night, I'm not going to make you a special putanesca without garlic and onions, and substitute black and green olives, but no anchovies, and fresh thyme instead of the fresh basil, and no salt but extra pepper. Possible on a slow night? Sure, but be aware of your surroundings, because your special request means that others are going to have their night slowed down a bit too.

You don't like mushrooms? Then don't order the burger that HAS mushrooms on it. Plain and simple. You don't like garlic? Then maybe keep the f*ck away from the Scampi. Don't like spinach? Then maybe the Florentine isn't for you. No bacon on a club sandwich? Easy. No bun for a burger? Simplicity. Be aware of what you're asking for, and insisting that the waitstaff "just see if they can..." when they tell you right off the bat that it's not possible is just bogging down everyone else's night.

I want my customers to be happy. I understand that folks have issues with allergies. I also realize that there are a ton of folks who don't have allergies and are just using the excuse to try to get a substitution without looking like a picky douche. I know that some folks are looking to be special with their very rare and sudden 'important dietary needs" too. It's a weird time, when you look to make yourself feel special by feigning a weakness. Not all folks are doing so. There are very much folks with dietary restrictions, but be aware that your restrictions don't translate to "getting whatever I ask for."
2014-01-20 01:53:44 PM  
1 vote:

WordyGrrl: I do not like seafood at all. Something about the smell, taste and texture of the meat just makes me gag, even the fancy stuff like salmon and lobster. Doesn't matter how it's prepared, what sauce you pour on it, or how well you try to hide it in a dish, I will hork it up. And that's not cool. Sometimes it's just easier to tell someone "I'm allergic to seafood" than to hurt their feelings regarding their culinary skills.


Is that a euphemism for something?
2014-01-20 01:44:05 PM  
1 vote:

Bruce the Deuce: Anybody ever consider that it's the gluten that has changed?

My boy has problems with it (among other things) and guess what? We don't go to restaurants.

The food is better at home, a lot of which is grown in the back yard.


That's like saying "Anybody ever considered that it's the nitrogen that has changed?"
2014-01-20 01:40:51 PM  
1 vote:
I have a milk allergy - the whole hives thing, some GI distress.  I've had it since I was a baby.  Annoying on the "ice cream" level, and sometimes I'll have it and just put up with the effects, but almond milk and such work fine most of the time.

I also have an alcohol "allergy".  It's not actually an allergy - I'm missing the second enzyme that processes alcohol, so instead of getting drunk, I basically go straight into alcohol poisoning, even for extremely small amounts.  But saying, "I'm allergic to alcohol" is a lot easier and simpler to explain to people who insist I try this balsamic vinegar or that specialty wine.  "No, really, this shiat can kill me," is usually the only follow-up I need.

But I pretty much don't ever ask for specialty food prep at a restaurant; I may ask if a dish contains alcohol, but if there's even a little doubt, I'll just order something else..  About the limit is if there's a side-sauce that comes with something, and the sauce has alcohol (pretty common with fish dishes, usually white wine), I'll just tell them I don't need it (and save them from having to make it at all).  I have a friend I go to dinner with often who is constantly asking to switch this side with that dish or this other sauce, and he can never understand why it annoys the crap out of me.
2014-01-20 01:38:52 PM  
1 vote:
Not good enough for the average Mom with a fragile snowflake. She'd demand that the wait staff slap the dishes containing any traces of peanuts or whatever off the tables and demand the diners vacate the premises immediately, then demand that staff don HazMat suits and scrub every last square inch of everything before her Precious would step in through the front door.

Then she'll want a notarized document hand-written about how sorry they are for having such toxic items and will pledge their entire year's pay toward some idiotic allergy-survivor's group.

And if they don't comply 100%, she'll sue all their asses for being such insensitive bastards!!!!!!

/Nothing more asshole-ish than a Mother with an allergic child.
2014-01-20 01:36:36 PM  
1 vote:
I am literally standing on line at a restaurant right now waiting for all hell to break loose...

I didn't ever want to be a cook. I have no formal cooking training. I kind of hate cooking. But by god...I'm great at it and everybody is going to be making moaning sounds around here in 10 minutes at how great this food is.

That being said, I take your allergies very seriously and am happy to sell you anything that you can eat.

That being said, I hate hearing about what kinds of foods adults dislike. Grow the fark up and manage your lives...I'm not your doctor or personal trainer or crystal medicine shaman or your Mom or your...
2014-01-20 01:30:23 PM  
1 vote:
Why not put up a big sign; "*Allergen Customized for only $20.00 Extra on your order!"

Right in the front, in 12" high letters.
2014-01-20 01:25:07 PM  
1 vote:

inglixthemad: Inquisitive Inquisitor: My avocado allergy can honestly kill me and I carry an epipen, so I'm pretty sure it's not made up.

I am a fragile snowflake though.

At least you have a real reaction. My cousin just got elected to the school board with three other parents. The newest initiative: You have to bring in medical documentation of an allergy.

Why? Things were getting out of farking hand. You won't believe how the 3 parents (who promptly whined) whose kids supposedly have food allergies reacted. 'Take our kids to the doctor? Verify that they have an actual allergy? Forsooth!'

The allergy card is played all too often today. I wonder how these kids survive trips to the grocery store sometimes. 'Little Tommy has a nut allergy' while mom walks right by a display of peanuts somebody is scooping out into a bag. 'Little Janie is allergic to wheat.' as mom walks by the bakery where wheat flour is in the air.

FFS! There are people with legitimate allergies that are marginalized because you think your precious snowflake might be allergic because you fed them something and it didn't sit well in their tummy. You think the kid is allergic to X product? Take them to the doctor and get the test done, otherwise let the other kids have their PB&J sandwiches and their wheat flour breads.

Not only that, but it'll stop the 'it doesn't agree with your kid's tummy' that parents think are allergies. I think the article used 'intolerance' in it. When you're lactose intolerant, it means you don't digest milk like many people can. Being in the vicinity of milk isn't deadly. Some people who think their kids have nut allergies? The kid's bodies just don't process nuts properly. There isn't a question the kid won't like it if they eat nuts, but they won't have an allergic (and life threatening) reaction to them.


I would have to agree with you on this one. Its like the saying "when everything is racist, nothing is racist."

I'm not trying to detract from people who actually have allergies, nor am I not saying that they aren't life threatening or dangerous, but it almost seems fad-like to have one of these allergies or "intolerances." sometimes I just want to take a slice of bread and slap these people in their face with it.

I know people who claim that they have intolerance or allergic to gluten. While yes, they might be less congested if they don't eat gluten, but as they walk around and talk about how hard it is to be gluten intolerant/allergic it takes away from people who actually are allergic and or intolerant to gluten.
2014-01-20 01:21:57 PM  
1 vote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgdFMIk38Ms

This was the beginning of the down fall of our society.
2014-01-20 01:10:13 PM  
1 vote:

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Cold_Sassy: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Fark that. Here's the deal: I pay, and you serve me what I ordered.

You sound like a self-entitled "dream customer."

No, I order from the menu. If I need something done differently, I fully expect to pay for it. If your menu says "No Substitutions", that's fine too. It may be a deal-breaker, but no hard feelings, I'll just go somewhere that I can get what I want.  I also tip well. I was raised on tips, so I understand why they're important.


Thanks for clearing that up because apparently a lot of other people interpreted it that way.  Glad to hear you are not like that.
2014-01-20 01:04:30 PM  
1 vote:
Despite what the submitter asserts, I do have actual food allergies & intolerances, many of them dating back from when I was a child, some more recent, such as an intolerance to canola.

It can also be disappointing to go to a restaurant such as a Chinese buffet & not be able to partake of the Mongolian grill because there's no way to avoid cross contamination. I love lamb, but it would be grilled on the same surface that shellfish had been prepared just moments before. It's just not worth it to risk anaphylaxis.

Same reason I avoid Thai restaurants since it's pretty common for peanuts to be in quite a few of the menu items. And for the record, I've had a peanut allergy for over 45 years. Same with shellfish.
2014-01-20 01:04:28 PM  
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Kanemano: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Fark that. Here's the deal: I pay, and you serve me what I ordered.

Why, you wouldn't order a BMW at a Ford dealership ,

They gave you a product list, don't like it go to another product supplier


However, sometimes you ask for something and have to check.  For instance, I bought a sandwich whole wheat bread at Panera once, didn't think anything of it, until my throat started to close up.  The outside of the bread looked fine.  When I opened the sandwich, I could see the bread was riddled with sunflower seeds.  I haven't had the allergy long, but now I ask whenever I think there's any chance a food might have it.  You'd be surprised how many do.  If the place I'm eating offers a salad that looks awesome, is the only healthy thing on the menu, but has sunflower seeds on it, should I A: leave and make my entire party leave, or B: ask the waiter if they can hold the sunflower seeds?
2014-01-20 12:59:26 PM  
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UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Fark that. Here's the deal: I pay, and you serve me what I ordered.


With that attitude, you are surely getting a little extra "something" in your food.
Bon apetit.
2014-01-20 12:58:11 PM  
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sprgrss: Completely different response in the body. if your wheat allergy is misdiagnosed as gluten-intolerance (which can only be diagnosed by a biopsy of the small intestine) then you need to find a new doctor.


Celiac requires the biopsy. But there's at least one person in my life who has non-Celiac gluten intolerance that was diagnosed via a combination of endoscopy, allergy testing, and ruling out other dietary issues. He just gets horrible stomach issues and shiats a lot when he eats gluten. Allergies can also manifest as stomach issues like diarrhea, vomiting, and cramps. So the only way to make sure it ISN'T an allergy instead of gluten-induced IBS is to get tested by an allergist.
2014-01-20 12:56:53 PM  
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Buttknuckle: I'm getting to the point now that when I hear the word "gluten" I want to kill someone.


this.
2014-01-20 12:55:59 PM  
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plcow: sprgrss: No one is allergic to gluten.  An allergy and the autoimmune response to gluten are two different things.

Also, unless diagnoses, I rescues to believe you have a gluten intolerance/celiac.

Actually, no they are not. An allergy is your body's auto-immune system over responding to something.


Completely different reaction.  With an allergy, your body releases histamine.  With gluten intolerance/celiac, your body attacks the vili in your small intestine.

Not even remotely the same.
2014-01-20 12:54:08 PM  
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sprgrss: No one is allergic to gluten.  An allergy and the autoimmune response to gluten are two different things.

Also, unless diagnoses, I rescues to believe you have a gluten intolerance/celiac.


Actually, no they are not. An allergy is your body's auto-immune system over responding to something.
2014-01-20 12:53:24 PM  
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Far Cough: DRTA -- is the answer "they lie"?

<snip>

You know who sucks?  Applebee's sucks.  Their vegetarian option is NOTHING.  And it's not as if they make up for it by offering great meat and fish.


Georgio - The owner and head chef at D1vwife's favorite restaurant - has been known to fill a mixing bowl full of steamed spinach and place it with great ceremony in front of anyone who dares to ask for a vegetarian dish in his restaurant.  I've seen him do it twice now and it is hilarious to watch.

/try the veal.
//no, seriously, try it.  It is awesome.
2014-01-20 12:50:51 PM  
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sprgrss: No one is allergic to gluten. An allergy and the autoimmune response to gluten are two different things.


There can be a histamine reaction to wheat, though, and it can often be misdiagnosed as gluten-intolerance.
2014-01-20 12:50:20 PM  
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Buttknuckle: I'm getting to the point now that when I hear the word "gluten" I want to kill someone.


Even if I had the  world's worst *legitimate* (ha!) "gluten allergy", I'd be too ashamed to admit it to anyone.
2014-01-20 12:40:09 PM  
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Inquisitive Inquisitor: My avocado allergy can honestly kill me and I carry an epipen, so I'm pretty sure it's not made up.

I am a fragile snowflake though.


thedish.restaurant.com

You poor poor bastard. I'm so sorry for you.
2014-01-20 12:38:05 PM  
1 vote:
Submitter is soooo witty, saying food allergies are fake.
2014-01-20 12:36:24 PM  
1 vote:
The "Portland, Ore" aspect of this article does not surprise me.

Can we have our own tag?
2014-01-20 12:19:17 PM  
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I really am allergic to shellfish, but mostly my interaction with restaurants is asking if there is shellfish in a dish, and ordering something else if there is.

The real problems are when I travel in Asia...there doesn't seem to be a word in most Asian languages for "shellfish". I actually have a little card that I carry, written in the native language, which explains the problem.
 
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