Inquisitive Inquisitor: My avocado allergy can honestly kill me and I carry an epipen, so I'm pretty sure it's not made up.I am a fragile snowflake though.
UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Fark that. Here's the deal: I pay, and you serve me what I ordered.
Prank Call of Cthulhu: "Hi, I'd like the grilled salmon salad, but make sure the croutons are gluten free and I'm allergic to peanuts and shellfish, so make sure my salmon is prepared in a different pan than other fish, and I only eat wild-caught, not farm raised salmon, can I substitute tomatoes--but only if they're completely organically grown--for the mushrooms, and I don't eat any dairy products, so make sure the salmon isn't grilled in butter, and can you bring bottled water instead of tap water and also..."Later, in the kitchen...[Chef]: "Hurrrrrrrrkhkhkhkhkhkh, phlough!"
UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Fark that. Here's the deal: I pay, and you serve me what I ordered off of the menu.
hubiestubert: The industry is still trying to deal with this issue.Shellfish and other allergies are nothing to joke about. Nut allergies either. There are items on my menu that are just verbotten for folks with these allergies, and I make no bones about there NOT being any way to make substitutions for these dishes. You can't get a eggless omelet. You can't get a gluten free pasta--at least not at the joint I'm at right now. No tomatoes? Easy. No onions? Don't get the marinara. Can't do nuts, then keep the f*ck away from the pesto. Consumers need to be aware just as much as the staff. No, I'm not going to be able to do a dairy free Alfredo, and you're a damn fool if you order it and think that it can be done. There are reasonable accommodations, and then there is just asinine. Vegan? Easy enough for options, but don't expect me to have tempeh to make a vegan bologonese. Not going to happen.The article touches on the one of the biggest issues for restaurants: time. We have the ability to work around some things. I can use a sizzle platter to sear something so that it doesn't come in contact with the flat top that has been used for a number of other dishes. I use separate pans for shrimp and fish so that someone who IS allergic to shellfish or has a sensitivity for fish won't order a burger and then start to crottle up and die because there was shrimp proteins on their bun. It's fair easy to not put nuts on a salad, and leave off tomatoes or garlic. The issue is most of the time, in kitchens, folks are working from reflex. You order a salad, it's called off, and the garde manger has the thing 3/4s done before you can blink. That's how kitchens work. The hands know the job, and the mind is working out the timing so that everything can come up at the same time so food doesn't hang out in the window. Special orders take you out of that groove. We hate special orders, not because we hate humanity, but because it takes us out of our zone, and forces us to concentrate on individual ...
Cold_Sassy: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Fark that. Here's the deal: I pay, and you serve me what I ordered.You sound like a self-entitled "dream customer."
Ivan the Tolerable: ZAZ: gluten-free, which is a new fashioni never really considered the desire to not spend a couple of days of my life writhing in agony on the floor to be a 'fashion'. perhaps you and i define fashion differently.
ZAZ: gluten-free, which is a new fashion
glmorrs1: Far Cough: glmorrs1: Epinephrine is a prescription drug.I also need a prescription if I want to get my own oxygen tank (yes, medical grade oxygen is a prescription drug), IV caterers and administration sets, and lactated ringers. But in this sense, prescription really just means permission from the medical director to carry and administer.That's what I said, it doesn't make sense.It really does, giving epinepren to someone with high blood pressure can cause a myocardial infarction (heart attack) or a CVA (stroke).And giving too much oxygen to a person with COPD could cause the hypoxic drive in their brain to slow their breathing to the point of causing respiratory arrest.
IronJelly: It's always amusing to me when someone thinks they'll "test" my allergy, by slipping some mustard into something I'm eating.//yes, mustard. The seeds of the plant just as much as the condiment make my throat swell up until breathing is a chore. I'm reasonably sure that my body's response indicates something more serious than dislike or intolerance.
Egoy3k: ReverendJynxed: Like fast food places, you always order something without an item to make sure they cook it fresh. If you have an allergy and they went the scrape it off route they would be in big trouble. Holding a key item makes sure they have to cook up a new item for you and not give you one of the already made stock sitting under the warmer.I have some really bad news for you about fast food. Everything is 'made to order' well more correctly it is 'assembled to order' your cheeseburger without pickles is no more fresh than one with pickles.
Trillian Astra: Jument: /Crohn's Disease, missing some intestineYou sound like my cousin's husband. My cousin can't cook worth a damn but I make everything from scratch at home for my fiance and I've offered to cook for them once, much to his pleasure. The fiance has gluten issues but only in this country. Back in his home country he can eat bread and pizza to his heart's content. But for some reason he can't digest gluten in the US. Still can't figure it out.
WordyGrrl: I do not like seafood at all. Something about the smell, taste and texture of the meat just makes me gag, even the fancy stuff like salmon and lobster. Doesn't matter how it's prepared, what sauce you pour on it, or how well you try to hide it in a dish, I will hork it up. And that's not cool. Sometimes it's just easier to tell someone "I'm allergic to seafood" than to hurt their feelings regarding their culinary skills.
baconbeard: Skyd1v: Far Cough: DRTA -- is the answer "they lie"?<snip>You know who sucks? Applebee's sucks. Their vegetarian option is NOTHING. And it's not as if they make up for it by offering great meat and fish.Georgio - The owner and head chef at D1vwife's favorite restaurant - has been known to fill a mixing bowl full of steamed spinach and place it with great ceremony in front of anyone who dares to ask for a vegetarian dish in his restaurant. I've seen him do it twice now and it is hilarious to watch./try the veal.//no, seriously, try it. It is awesome.That's awesome! A bowl of freshly clipped Kentucky blue-grass would be even better.
Bruce the Deuce: Anybody ever consider that it's the gluten that has changed?My boy has problems with it (among other things) and guess what? We don't go to restaurants.The food is better at home, a lot of which is grown in the back yard.
inglixthemad: Inquisitive Inquisitor: My avocado allergy can honestly kill me and I carry an epipen, so I'm pretty sure it's not made up.I am a fragile snowflake though.At least you have a real reaction. My cousin just got elected to the school board with three other parents. The newest initiative: You have to bring in medical documentation of an allergy.Why? Things were getting out of farking hand. You won't believe how the 3 parents (who promptly whined) whose kids supposedly have food allergies reacted. 'Take our kids to the doctor? Verify that they have an actual allergy? Forsooth!'The allergy card is played all too often today. I wonder how these kids survive trips to the grocery store sometimes. 'Little Tommy has a nut allergy' while mom walks right by a display of peanuts somebody is scooping out into a bag. 'Little Janie is allergic to wheat.' as mom walks by the bakery where wheat flour is in the air.FFS! There are people with legitimate allergies that are marginalized because you think your precious snowflake might be allergic because you fed them something and it didn't sit well in their tummy. You think the kid is allergic to X product? Take them to the doctor and get the test done, otherwise let the other kids have their PB&J sandwiches and their wheat flour breads.Not only that, but it'll stop the 'it doesn't agree with your kid's tummy' that parents think are allergies. I think the article used 'intolerance' in it. When you're lactose intolerant, it means you don't digest milk like many people can. Being in the vicinity of milk isn't deadly. Some people who think their kids have nut allergies? The kid's bodies just don't process nuts properly. There isn't a question the kid won't like it if they eat nuts, but they won't have an allergic (and life threatening) reaction to them.
UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Cold_Sassy: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Fark that. Here's the deal: I pay, and you serve me what I ordered.You sound like a self-entitled "dream customer."No, I order from the menu. If I need something done differently, I fully expect to pay for it. If your menu says "No Substitutions", that's fine too. It may be a deal-breaker, but no hard feelings, I'll just go somewhere that I can get what I want. I also tip well. I was raised on tips, so I understand why they're important.
Kanemano: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Fark that. Here's the deal: I pay, and you serve me what I ordered.Why, you wouldn't order a BMW at a Ford dealership ,They gave you a product list, don't like it go to another product supplier
sprgrss: Completely different response in the body. if your wheat allergy is misdiagnosed as gluten-intolerance (which can only be diagnosed by a biopsy of the small intestine) then you need to find a new doctor.
Buttknuckle: I'm getting to the point now that when I hear the word "gluten" I want to kill someone.
plcow: sprgrss: No one is allergic to gluten. An allergy and the autoimmune response to gluten are two different things.Also, unless diagnoses, I rescues to believe you have a gluten intolerance/celiac.Actually, no they are not. An allergy is your body's auto-immune system over responding to something.
sprgrss: No one is allergic to gluten. An allergy and the autoimmune response to gluten are two different things.Also, unless diagnoses, I rescues to believe you have a gluten intolerance/celiac.
Far Cough: DRTA -- is the answer "they lie"?<snip>You know who sucks? Applebee's sucks. Their vegetarian option is NOTHING. And it's not as if they make up for it by offering great meat and fish.
sprgrss: No one is allergic to gluten. An allergy and the autoimmune response to gluten are two different things.
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