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2014-01-20 02:10:05 PM
"The number of people who have a food allergy is growing, but there is no clear answer as to why."

Because they are allowed to breed.
 
2014-01-20 02:10:41 PM

Egoy3k: Bruce the Deuce: Anybody ever consider that it's the gluten that has changed?

My boy has problems with it (among other things) and guess what? We don't go to restaurants.

The food is better at home, a lot of which is grown in the back yard.

Gluten is one of the easiest foods to avoid in the restaurant scene these days.  I can't think of very many restaurants that I frequent that don't have multiple gluten free options.


I rarely think of gluten.  it's not in a lot of foods.  have an animal, some vegetables, and maybe some fruit somewhere.  you have satisfied 3 elemental groups: soul, earth, and air (since fruits are generally in trees and fall).  you might even get some water with your soul by eating fish (was going to make a joke, like sole).  then fire is all in the heat.

all 5 elemental groups can be covered without ever getting any gluten.

/ yes, i follow an elemental diet.  and yes, soul is very important.
 
2014-01-20 02:11:08 PM
Like fast food places, you always order something without an item to make sure they cook it fresh. If you have an allergy and they went the scrape it off route they would be in big trouble. Holding a key item makes sure they have to cook up a new item for you and not give you one of the already made stock sitting under the warmer.
 
2014-01-20 02:11:12 PM
Like most things - it's a matter of degrees.

Please leave the bacon bits off of my salad?   Shouldn't be a problem

Please make my pasta sauce without garlic?   Fark off and eat something else.
 
2014-01-20 02:11:36 PM

Bruce the Deuce: FrancoFile: Bruce the Deuce: Anybody ever consider that it's the gluten that has changed?

My boy has problems with it (among other things) and guess what? We don't go to restaurants.

The food is better at home, a lot of which is grown in the back yard.

That's like saying "Anybody ever considered that it's the nitrogen that has changed?"

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/modern-whe at-a-perfect-chronic-poison-doct or-says/

Hope this link works.


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/modern-whe at-a-perfect-chronic-poison-doct or-says/
 
2014-01-20 02:13:51 PM
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Didn't read the thread
 
2014-01-20 02:14:24 PM

Bruce the Deuce: Bruce the Deuce: FrancoFile: Bruce the Deuce: Anybody ever consider that it's the gluten that has changed?

My boy has problems with it (among other things) and guess what? We don't go to restaurants.

The food is better at home, a lot of which is grown in the back yard.

That's like saying "Anybody ever considered that it's the nitrogen that has changed?"

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/modern-whe at-a-perfect-chronic-poison-doct or-says/

Hope this link works.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/modern-whe at-a-perfect-chronic-poison-doct or-says/


The "Wheat Belly" doctor is a crank and a fraud.
 
2014-01-20 02:14:51 PM

wambu: "The number of people who have a food allergy is growing, but there is no clear answer as to why."

Because they are allowed to breed.


The simplicity and elegance of this observation is actually deceptively deep.

Maybe all the people with chronic allergies 40 years ago just died as children.
 
2014-01-20 02:16:21 PM

WordyGrrl: Nowadays I do just say "I don't like seafood, so more for you, eh?" Haven't used the "allergic" line in years, but it seemed the most effective and polite way to shut down arguments that I should try this or that, or just haven't had it prepared properly, etc.


I would think the easy rebuttal is "Kind like lesbians just haven't got a proper dicking." I mean, you know what you like and no amount of trying something you don't is going to make you like it.
 
2014-01-20 02:18:36 PM

pute kisses like a man: I rarely think of gluten.  it's not in a lot of foods.  have an animal, some vegetables, and maybe some fruit somewhere.  you have satisfied 3 elemental groups: soul, earth, and air (since fruits are generally in trees and fall).  you might even get some water with your soul by eating fish (was going to make a joke, like sole).  then fire is all in the heat.all 5 elemental groups can be covered without ever getting any gluten./ yes, i follow an elemental diet.  and yes, soul is very important.


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2014-01-20 02:19:53 PM

ReverendJynxed: Like fast food places, you always order something without an item to make sure they cook it fresh. If you have an allergy and they went the scrape it off route they would be in big trouble. Holding a key item makes sure they have to cook up a new item for you and not give you one of the already made stock sitting under the warmer.


You can easily tell what has been sitting around without doing this. If meat is dry, if veggies are soggy, if pasta isn't al dente then chances are they were made up earlier. And there probably is no way to tell just how long ago. Best to write the place off.
 
2014-01-20 02:20:04 PM

lockers: If you go to a chain restaurant, say applebees, olive garden or chili's, the cooks have zero control really over the contents of the food. Everything that can be is prepared at a factory. The cooks are glorified technicians. They are given a formula and place it on a conveyer belt. They have no knowledge of what are in the sauces.


After 26 years in the food and beverage service industry, my sister took a job at an Applebees. She said she's never seen anything like it. The cooks don't cook, they heat. Almost everything is prepackaged, with no skills needed. As a bartender, she said it's the only place she's ever worked that instead of timed pours, they measure every ounce of liquor poured. Keeps them out of trouble with the ABC, I guess.
 
2014-01-20 02:20:54 PM

baconbeard: Skyd1v: Far Cough: DRTA -- is the answer "they lie"?

<snip>

You know who sucks?  Applebee's sucks.  Their vegetarian option is NOTHING.  And it's not as if they make up for it by offering great meat and fish.

Georgio - The owner and head chef at D1vwife's favorite restaurant - has been known to fill a mixing bowl full of steamed spinach and place it with great ceremony in front of anyone who dares to ask for a vegetarian dish in his restaurant.  I've seen him do it twice now and it is hilarious to watch.

/try the veal.
//no, seriously, try it.  It is awesome.

That's awesome! A bowl of freshly clipped Kentucky blue-grass would be even better.


So Georgio is a dickbag then.  God forbid a group of friends or family enjoy his restaurant if one member of the group doesn't eat meat.  Put some actual seasoning on the spinach, fine, that's a dish.  No reason to be a humongous dickbag about it and serve something purposely flavorless to say fark you to a paying customer.  Some "chef".

By the way, by vegetarian option I didn't mean Applebee's necessarily needs to label things "HEY VEGGIE SECTION HERE".  I meant that even after trying, it's nearly impossible to order anything off their menu without meat.  This is not usually a big problem at other restaurants (pasta, egg dishes, cheese dishes, salads, pizza, etc.), both up and down the scale, though of course it doesn't get much further down.

Hell, even Cracker Barrel is more accommodating.
 
2014-01-20 02:21:18 PM

ReverendJynxed: Like fast food places, you always order something without an item to make sure they cook it fresh. If you have an allergy and they went the scrape it off route they would be in big trouble. Holding a key item makes sure they have to cook up a new item for you and not give you one of the already made stock sitting under the warmer.


I have some really bad news for you about fast food.  Everything is 'made to order' well more correctly it is 'assembled to order'  your cheeseburger without pickles is no more fresh than one with pickles.
 
2014-01-20 02:26:19 PM

Cyno01: pute kisses like a man: I rarely think of gluten.  it's not in a lot of foods.  have an animal, some vegetables, and maybe some fruit somewhere.  you have satisfied 3 elemental groups: soul, earth, and air (since fruits are generally in trees and fall).  you might even get some water with your soul by eating fish (was going to make a joke, like sole).  then fire is all in the heat.all 5 elemental groups can be covered without ever getting any gluten./ yes, i follow an elemental diet.  and yes, soul is very important.

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that picture is terrifying.

the elemental diet started as a joke.  and it still is a joke.  i was talking about pitre dish grown slabs of meat with a vegan friend, and she asked if i would give up eating dead animals if pitre dish meat tasted as good.

i said, while it would be very interesting... taste is not all that I look for.  i like to know that my food had a soul.

i made this comment as a joke, and we all laughed, though, with the wrong delivery, i see perfectly that it's an asshole thing to say to a sympathetic vegan.  however, my delivery was kind and goofy, not cruel and offhand.  so, it was a funny thing to say.  however, immediately thereafter, i started picturing the food groups of the 5 elements or the 5 kids from captain planet, and decided to create the fictional elemental diet... just in case i have to defend meat eating to vegans on the internet.

/ since, there are a million retarded diets, might as well add a new retarded diet to the mix.
 
2014-01-20 02:29:32 PM
I had really interesting conversations with a member of my family who was born in 1903 about what healthcare was like in her childhood.

No one had allergies (not surprising, the concept of allergies wasn't introduced until 1906) but I would be shocked her stories of how many infants, children and adults just ... died. Sure there were flu epidemics and others, but I wonder how many were just written off as, "these things happen."

And she'd tell stories of the generation before, "My aunt so and so had 9 kids, though only 5 lived."

Sadly, I think the entities most capable to determine the actual vs. perceived increase and possible causes and cures are the same entities least likely to actively pursue it.
 
2014-01-20 02:34:57 PM
I'm going to start being one of those people. I'm going to claim an allergy for foods I just dislike eating.

"I'm actually allergic to parsnips. Highly allergic. So you'll have to make the 'fall root veggie de-lite' without them in it. No, I don't want to try another item. I want that, without parsnips. Also, I'm allergic to cilantro at over a tablespoon per serving of guacamole, so remember that when making it for me."
 
2014-01-20 02:39:57 PM
Allergic to tree nuts and peanuts.  Can't really set foot in a Thai restaurant.  Which is a shame, since my friend, who is Thai, has made me food before that doesn't involve nuts and they're fantastically delicious.  I wanted to eat at Pok Pok in Portland, but I'd rather not end up a choking mess in an ED and possibly intubated.  So I went to Screen Door instead and had Chicken and Waffles.
 
2014-01-20 02:40:51 PM
FTA:  "The number of people who have a food allergy is growing, but there is no clear answer as to why."

The same reason why a whole lot of other diagnoses seem to be "growing." We're diagnosing it more. Also, we live in the era of WebMD and self-diagnosis, and we've created a nation of hypochondriacs.
 
2014-01-20 02:41:35 PM
Wow. It must SUCK being most of you farkers. THe only thing I have problems with is raw vegetables and dairy products. But hey, If I want them bad enough, I'll endure the severe cramps, farts and shiats. There's not much I do not like. I can eat anything that tastes good to me with no problem. It's funny how I love things now that tasted like shiat years ago.
 
2014-01-20 02:44:24 PM
White people problems. Seriously.

I'll try to find the article, but some polling place did a poll and found that the majority of people who have food allergies to things like gluten were predominantly upper middle class and rich folk. The moral of the story is that mother nature, fsm, god, or w/e your dirty may be, hates well to do white people.

Or people who make minimum wage or below can't afford to have allergies.
 
2014-01-20 02:45:03 PM

pute kisses like a man: / since, there are a million retarded diets, might as well add a new retarded diet to the mix.


So is there some corollary to rule 34 associated with diets?

Because I think you pretty much just invented one that at least some people will swear by.
 
2014-01-20 02:46:29 PM

Egoy3k: ReverendJynxed: Like fast food places, you always order something without an item to make sure they cook it fresh. If you have an allergy and they went the scrape it off route they would be in big trouble. Holding a key item makes sure they have to cook up a new item for you and not give you one of the already made stock sitting under the warmer.

I have some really bad news for you about fast food.  Everything is 'made to order' well more correctly it is 'assembled to order'  your cheeseburger without pickles is no more fresh than one with pickles.


I hate to tell you but a lot of places around here prepare common fast food items ahead of time for the lunch rush.
 
2014-01-20 02:47:17 PM

FrancoFile: Bruce the Deuce: Bruce the Deuce: FrancoFile: Bruce the Deuce: Anybody ever consider that it's the gluten that has changed?

My boy has problems with it (among other things) and guess what? We don't go to restaurants.

The food is better at home, a lot of which is grown in the back yard.

That's like saying "Anybody ever considered that it's the nitrogen that has changed?"

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/modern-whe at-a-perfect-chronic-poison-doct or-says/

Hope this link works.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/modern-whe at-a-perfect-chronic-poison-doct or-says/

The "Wheat Belly" doctor is a crank and a fraud.


Say what you want but my boy was adversely affected by gluten. Stopped gluten. Got a different, much improved child.

All the medical professionals we saw pushed drugs as a solution. All poo-pooed diet change. Drugs didn't work. Diet change did.

Your results may vary.
 
2014-01-20 02:47:33 PM

pute kisses like a man: all 5 elemental groups can be covered without ever getting any gluten.

/ yes, i follow an elemental diet.  and yes, soul is very important.


Jesus Christ. I'm in the wrong business. I should stop trying to be a productive member of society and start peddling horseshiat to idiots.
 
2014-01-20 02:48:07 PM

supayoda: FTA:  "The number of people who have a food allergy is growing, but there is no clear answer as to why."

The same reason why a whole lot of other diagnoses seem to be "growing." We're diagnosing it more. Also, we live in the era of WebMD and self-diagnosis, and we've created a nation of hypochondriacs.


Exactly. Every obese person I know seems to have some kind of "thyroid problem" that their doctors mysteriously have been unable to diagnose.
 
2014-01-20 02:48:28 PM

Far Cough: baconbeard: Skyd1v: Far Cough: DRTA -- is the answer "they lie"?

<snip>

You know who sucks?  Applebee's sucks.  Their vegetarian option is NOTHING.  And it's not as if they make up for it by offering great meat and fish.

Georgio - The owner and head chef at D1vwife's favorite restaurant - has been known to fill a mixing bowl full of steamed spinach and place it with great ceremony in front of anyone who dares to ask for a vegetarian dish in his restaurant.  I've seen him do it twice now and it is hilarious to watch.

/try the veal.
//no, seriously, try it.  It is awesome.

That's awesome! A bowl of freshly clipped Kentucky blue-grass would be even better.

So Georgio is a dickbag then. God forbid a group of friends or family enjoy his restaurant if one member of the group doesn't eat meat.  Put some actual seasoning on the spinach, fine, that's a dish.  No reason to be a humongous dickbag about it and serve something purposely flavorless to say fark you to a paying customer.  Some "chef".


Yes, yes he is.  He won't deny it or try to hide it either.  He's about as mean as you can imagine a 70 year old Sicilian man can get.

But his food ranges from "Really GD good" to "This is the best thing I have ever or shall ever eat in my life" so he's able to get away with his Soup Nazi tomfoolery.
 
2014-01-20 02:51:05 PM

Bruce the Deuce: FrancoFile: Bruce the Deuce: Bruce the Deuce: FrancoFile: Bruce the Deuce: Anybody ever consider that it's the gluten that has changed?

My boy has problems with it (among other things) and guess what? We don't go to restaurants.

The food is better at home, a lot of which is grown in the back yard.

That's like saying "Anybody ever considered that it's the nitrogen that has changed?"

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/modern-whe at-a-perfect-chronic-poison-doct or-says/

Hope this link works.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/modern-whe at-a-perfect-chronic-poison-doct or-says/

The "Wheat Belly" doctor is a crank and a fraud.

Say what you want but my boy was adversely affected by gluten. Stopped gluten. Got a different, much improved child.

All the medical professionals we saw pushed drugs as a solution. All poo-pooed diet change. Drugs didn't work. Diet change did.

Your results may vary.


Yeah, that's fine and dandy, and I'm glad you found a solution and that your kid is healthy now.

Your son had a problem.  The entire global wheat crop does not have a problem.
 
2014-01-20 02:51:22 PM

PseudonymityFan: I had really interesting conversations with a member of my family who was born in 1903 about what healthcare was like in her childhood.

No one had allergies (not surprising, the concept of allergies wasn't introduced until 1906) but I would be shocked her stories of how many infants, children and adults just ... died. Sure there were flu epidemics and others, but I wonder how many were just written off as, "these things happen."

And she'd tell stories of the generation before, "My aunt so and so had 9 kids, though only 5 lived."

Sadly, I think the entities most capable to determine the actual vs. perceived increase and possible causes and cures are the same entities least likely to actively pursue it.


There aren't a whole lot of fatal food allergies. The decline in early childhood death is less about discovering allergy and avoidance and more about vaccination. The rate kids were dying from food allergy is going to be super low. Just like now, you don't figure out you have it until you eat something that contains it.
 
2014-01-20 02:51:23 PM

office_despot: There also might be a peer-pressure aspect to the rising number of spurious intolerances.  I am lactose-tolerant, and gluten-tolerant too.  It's a little amazing, though, how people who are intolerant of those foods are always trying to convice me that I must be intolerant, too.


People want to believe that they represent the norm. If you go and demonstrate that they aren't, it tends to hurt their feelings. After all, why should you get to enjoy something that is denied to them? That's just not fair, you know?
 
2014-01-20 02:54:25 PM

pedobearapproved: PseudonymityFan: I had really interesting conversations with a member of my family who was born in 1903 about what healthcare was like in her childhood.

No one had allergies (not surprising, the concept of allergies wasn't introduced until 1906) but I would be shocked her stories of how many infants, children and adults just ... died. Sure there were flu epidemics and others, but I wonder how many were just written off as, "these things happen."

And she'd tell stories of the generation before, "My aunt so and so had 9 kids, though only 5 lived."

Sadly, I think the entities most capable to determine the actual vs. perceived increase and possible causes and cures are the same entities least likely to actively pursue it.

There aren't a whole lot of fatal food allergies. The decline in early childhood death is less about discovering allergy and avoidance and more about vaccination. The rate kids were dying from food allergy is going to be super low. Just like now, you don't figure out you have it until you eat something that contains it.


Vaccinations?  Yeah, good luck with the autism!
 
2014-01-20 02:55:35 PM
How about not going out to eat? If you've got to follow a specific diet, just stay home unless you're sure you can get something at the restaurant that you can eat.

I eat halal. I wouldn't go into a steakhouse and demand a halal steak, nor would I expect a BBQ place to cater to my non-pork diet.

If all else fails and you need to go to a restaurant, have the salad and STFU. Unless you're allergic to salad, then just have the water I guess.

Also, if you think you've got an allergy but won't go through the testing to know for sure you probably don't have an allergy and it's in your head.
 
2014-01-20 02:58:38 PM

Trillian Astra: Ivan the Tolerable: ZAZ: gluten-free, which is a new fashion

i never really considered the desire to not spend a couple of days of my life writhing in agony on the floor to be a 'fashion'. perhaps you and i define fashion differently.

I think they mean that gluten-free is the new trendy elimination diet, not that people with actual gluten sensitivity or Celiac disease are attempting to be fashionable.


This. It is very, very fashionable to eat gluten free these days. This pisses me off to no end because every time I ask for gluten free I just know the waiter thinks I'm one of these douchebags. I'd eat pasta five times a day if I could, dammit!

/Crohn's Disease, missing some intestine
//gluten causes me serious unpleasantness
///so does a lot of things, unfortunately
 
2014-01-20 02:58:59 PM

Buttknuckle: Vaccinations?  Yeah, good luck with the autism!


I only use anti-autisimal vaccines.

They're pretty exclusive so I'm not surprised you haven't heard of them.

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-01-20 03:02:04 PM

Bruce the Deuce: FrancoFile: Bruce the Deuce: Bruce the Deuce: FrancoFile: Bruce the Deuce: Anybody ever consider that it's the gluten that has changed?

My boy has problems with it (among other things) and guess what? We don't go to restaurants.

The food is better at home, a lot of which is grown in the back yard.

That's like saying "Anybody ever considered that it's the nitrogen that has changed?"

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/modern-whe at-a-perfect-chronic-poison-doct or-says/

Hope this link works.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/modern-whe at-a-perfect-chronic-poison-doct or-says/

The "Wheat Belly" doctor is a crank and a fraud.

Say what you want but my boy was adversely affected by gluten. Stopped gluten. Got a different, much improved child.

All the medical professionals we saw pushed drugs as a solution. All poo-pooed diet change. Drugs didn't work. Diet change did.

Your results may vary.


You should have seen a gastrointerologist if you suspect gluten.  There are a myriad of syndromes and diseases that mimic celiac disease that are not celiac disease.  It very well may save your child's life.
 
2014-01-20 03:05:14 PM

Jument: /Crohn's Disease, missing some intestine


You sound like my cousin's husband. My cousin can't cook worth a damn but I make everything from scratch at home for my fiance and I've offered to cook for them once, much to his pleasure. The fiance has gluten issues but only in this country. Back in his home country he can eat bread and pizza to his heart's content. But for some reason he can't digest gluten in the US. Still can't figure it out.
 
2014-01-20 03:05:31 PM

FrancoFile: Bruce the Deuce: FrancoFile: Bruce the Deuce: Bruce the Deuce: FrancoFile: Bruce the Deuce: Anybody ever consider that it's the gluten that has changed?

My boy has problems with it (among other things) and guess what? We don't go to restaurants.

The food is better at home, a lot of which is grown in the back yard.

That's like saying "Anybody ever considered that it's the nitrogen that has changed?"

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/modern-whe at-a-perfect-chronic-poison-doct or-says/

Hope this link works.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/modern-whe at-a-perfect-chronic-poison-doct or-says/

The "Wheat Belly" doctor is a crank and a fraud.

Say what you want but my boy was adversely affected by gluten. Stopped gluten. Got a different, much improved child.

All the medical professionals we saw pushed drugs as a solution. All poo-pooed diet change. Drugs didn't work. Diet change did.

Your results may vary.

Yeah, that's fine and dandy, and I'm glad you found a solution and that your kid is healthy now.

Your son had a problem.  The entire global wheat crop does not have a problem.


May be a sign of things to come. You don't know.
 
2014-01-20 03:13:08 PM

pute kisses like a man: the elemental diet started as a joke. and it still is a joke.


Jebus don't scare us like that.
 
2014-01-20 03:14:48 PM
I'm allergic to eggs.  Yes, really allergic.  I got food poisoning from some bad eggs, (really bad - lost about 40 pounds, had to go to the hospital, etc) and since then I have an immune response to eggs.  The treatment the doctor prescribed?   "Avoid eggs."  I used to love eating fried eggs for breakfast and egg nog during the holidays.  But now, I get sick, including, but not limited to, extreme gastrointestinal distress.  It ain't pretty.  And it ain't pretty for several days.  So many people think I'm making it up, and they are farking morons.

But when I go out to eat, I don't order anything special, I just avoid the dishes with eggs in them.  Sometimes if I'm not sure, I'll ask, (and the wait staff never know - they all have to check with the kitchen) and if there are eggs in it, usually a sauce, I'll just order something else.  I don't ask for dishes to be altered, I just don't order them if they have eggs.

It's really not that big of a deal.  Besides breakfast, I mainly have to avoid baked deserts.  It's funny when someone offers me some brownies or something, and I politely decline, and they keep pressing the issue as to why.  When I tell them I'm allergic to eggs, they think that life must be over for me. Then they keep asking, "Are you sure?  Just a little bite?"  No, goddammit, even though it smells good, that one bite will keep me camped out in the bathroom for a few days.  No, it's not really a temptation when I know the consequences.

So, yeah, it's really an allergy, and not that I'm a vegan, or on a diet, or because I think I'm special somehow.
 
2014-01-20 03:15:34 PM

WordyGrrl: I do not like seafood at all. Something about the smell, taste and texture of the meat just makes me gag, even the fancy stuff like salmon and lobster. Doesn't matter how it's prepared, what sauce you pour on it, or how well you try to hide it in a dish, I will hork it up. And that's not cool. Sometimes it's just easier to tell someone "I'm allergic to seafood" than to hurt their feelings regarding their culinary skills.


Or don't order seafood then?
 
2014-01-20 03:19:20 PM

Trillian Astra: Jument: /Crohn's Disease, missing some intestine

You sound like my cousin's husband. My cousin can't cook worth a damn but I make everything from scratch at home for my fiance and I've offered to cook for them once, much to his pleasure. The fiance has gluten issues but only in this country. Back in his home country he can eat bread and pizza to his heart's content. But for some reason he can't digest gluten in the US. Still can't figure it out.


GMO wheat and chemicals used in processing.
 
2014-01-20 03:23:51 PM

Jument: Trillian Astra: Ivan the Tolerable: ZAZ: gluten-free, which is a new fashion

i never really considered the desire to not spend a couple of days of my life writhing in agony on the floor to be a 'fashion'. perhaps you and i define fashion differently.

I think they mean that gluten-free is the new trendy elimination diet, not that people with actual gluten sensitivity or Celiac disease are attempting to be fashionable.

This. It is very, very fashionable to eat gluten free these days. This pisses me off to no end because every time I ask for gluten free I just know the waiter thinks I'm one of these douchebags. I'd eat pasta five times a day if I could, dammit!

/Crohn's Disease, missing some intestine
//gluten causes me serious unpleasantness
///so does a lot of things, unfortunately


Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth!  You've got hundreds of restaurants who not only have HEARD of gluten intolerance but actually crafted menus specifically devoted to the issue; you've got supermarket shelves filled with gluten-free pastas and cakes and breads.  With your condition you NOW have a freedom you and thousands like you would have NEVER had up until the last 5 years.  Centuries of science and medicine and marketing have conspired at just the right time to make YOUR life easier.

And you're "pissed off to no end" because some pretenders are involved, who want to eat the same food but might not really need to.  Wow.  If I were you I would kiss them in the face for creating the fad that makes my life bearable and affordable.
 
2014-01-20 03:25:16 PM

glmorrs1: Also, people can develope allergies to things that didn't used to effect them at any time, that's what happened to me with the nuts. I used to love peanuts and then one day, bam!, allergic to peanuts.


Yep. I had no problems with peanuts/peanut products or shellfish until I was around 16 years old and then, BLAM, I developed allergies to both. Suddenly, no more PB&Js or my grandma's wonderful Crab Louie. The latter was our go-to dinner after a trip to the coast. Before we headed home we'd stop at either Depoe Bay or Winchester Bay and purchase fresh crab meat from one of the stalls & pop it into the ice chest.
 
2014-01-20 03:31:43 PM
Hmm, I'm not allergic to any foods.  Pollen yes, food no.

/maybe I should breed
//for the fate of humanity
 
2014-01-20 03:33:10 PM

Pangea: pute kisses like a man: / since, there are a million retarded diets, might as well add a new retarded diet to the mix.

So is there some corollary to rule 34 associated with diets?

Because I think you pretty much just invented one that at least some people will swear by.


anything that either references religion, science, or antiquity (or all three, preferably with a really old, goofy science.  for example, we need to bring transmutation and metallurgy into any discussion of dietary decision making)

i was going with elements because I hadn't seen elements yet, and you could include the soul.  of course, you could reduce to 4 elements and say fire is the soul.  (as aristotle said, women are only men who did not have the fire in their soul necessary to push their genitalia out).  take some greek philosopher completely out of context, and you have all you need to create a real food diet cult.  make it ethical and it gets even better.  for example, Pythagoras (inventor of triangles) said that you will burn in hell if you put your left shoe on before your right.  and that's just common knowledge.  all the same, you must wash your left foot first, or there will be an entirely different type of hell to deal with (the washing feet part might be wrong, it's been over a decade since I read any pythagorus.  but, the right shoe thing is totally attributable to him.  however, i don't really know if burning in hell was properly translated.  probably should have been suffering in the afterlife.  i think hell was developed later, and burning was developed even later than that).

for some reason, people think eating like a caveman is a great idea.  other people think eating like poor religious pilgrims is a good idea. other people just run with ill developed science and think it's brilliant.

/ i just study myself.  some things make me feel better.  some things make me feel worse.  since I am healthy, i just try to avoid anything that makes me feel worse as a large part of my diet.
// however, for humor, i will provide any number of complex systems, false explanations, and irreverently quoted greek philosophers
 
2014-01-20 03:38:55 PM

Egoy3k: ReverendJynxed: Like fast food places, you always order something without an item to make sure they cook it fresh. If you have an allergy and they went the scrape it off route they would be in big trouble. Holding a key item makes sure they have to cook up a new item for you and not give you one of the already made stock sitting under the warmer.

I have some really bad news for you about fast food.  Everything is 'made to order' well more correctly it is 'assembled to order'  your cheeseburger without pickles is no more fresh than one with pickles.


True story... The restaurants I worked in college (which included both sit down and fast food) used to pre-assemble burgers and other menu items without pickles or onions or ketchup and then store them under the warmer. If you ordered one, you likely got a burger that had been sitting there longer than some of the fully assembled ones. If it got close to time to take them off the warmer, and they hadn't sold, we'd slap on the missing ingredient to move them out. Long story short... You're not clever.

There's also the fact that, as Egoy3k points out, the burgers aren't made to order. They're assembled to order. Unless you come in during lunch or dinner rush, you're likely not going to get a burger hot off the grill. They make up 12 or more patties at a time and store them in a warming bin BY THEMSELVES. The condiments and fixings are stored. Sure, they pre-assemble a few to put in the warmer, but for the most part, if you have something special order, they've already got some patties in the warmer with nothing on them. They slap it on a bun with whatever you specified, and there you go.
 
2014-01-20 03:39:14 PM

Far Cough: Jument: Trillian Astra: Ivan the Tolerable: ZAZ: gluten-free, which is a new fashion

i never really considered the desire to not spend a couple of days of my life writhing in agony on the floor to be a 'fashion'. perhaps you and i define fashion differently.

I think they mean that gluten-free is the new trendy elimination diet, not that people with actual gluten sensitivity or Celiac disease are attempting to be fashionable.

This. It is very, very fashionable to eat gluten free these days. This pisses me off to no end because every time I ask for gluten free I just know the waiter thinks I'm one of these douchebags. I'd eat pasta five times a day if I could, dammit!

/Crohn's Disease, missing some intestine
//gluten causes me serious unpleasantness
///so does a lot of things, unfortunately

Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth!  You've got hundreds of restaurants who not only have HEARD of gluten intolerance but actually crafted menus specifically devoted to the issue; you've got supermarket shelves filled with gluten-free pastas and cakes and breads.  With your condition you NOW have a freedom you and thousands like you would have NEVER had up until the last 5 years.  Centuries of science and medicine and marketing have conspired at just the right time to make YOUR life easier.

And you're "pissed off to no end" because some pretenders are involved, who want to eat the same food but might not really need to.  Wow.  If I were you I would kiss them in the face for creating the fad that makes my life bearable and affordable.


Those are some excellent points but this is the internet so I'm obligated to complain. Mostly I'm just bitter/jealous that all of these people are running around crying about how evil gluten is when I want nothing more than to gorge on gluten-rich foods 24x7.
 
2014-01-20 03:41:45 PM
Salt makes me cough.  Doctor told me I'm allergic to it, which is stupid.  I'm sensitive to it and I don't like it, but I'm not allergic.  Just gives me a dry smoker cough until I rinse my mouth out.  Kinda funny to watch.  Most restaurant food is way too salty for me.  /shrug
 
2014-01-20 03:43:03 PM

Flab: Bathia_Mapes: Despite what the submitter asserts, I do have actual food allergies & intolerances, many of them dating back from when I was a child, some more recent, such as an intolerance to canola.

It can also be disappointing to go to a restaurant such as a Chinese buffet & not be able to partake of the Mongolian grill because there's no way to avoid cross contamination. I love lamb, but it would be grilled on the same surface that shellfish had been prepared just moments before. It's just not worth it to risk anaphylaxis.

Same reason I avoid Thai restaurants since it's pretty common for peanuts to be in quite a few of the menu items. And for the record, I've had a peanut allergy for over 45 years. Same with shellfish.

What the people in this thread are trying to say is that you're obviously a genetic abomination and that you should have been thrown of a cliff at birth, like in ancient Sparta, or that you're faking it and that you should suck it up, princess!  How dare you survive past 2 years of age and inconvenience line cooks at the restaurant?


Heh!

Didn't develop the allergies to peanuts & shellfish until I was around 16 years old. Still don't know why I developed allergies to them because I had no problems beforehand and ate them with zero reactions.

However, I don't make a big fuss at restaurants. I just order something that I know is safe for me to eat off the menu, and as I said before, I avoid certain types of restaurants since I know it will nigh onto impossible for cross contamination to occur. I most certainly don't go all snowflakey at restaurant staff & it makes me angry when I see someone doing that.
 
2014-01-20 03:49:02 PM
I don't see the problem with asking about ingredients in food (because they're supposed to know what's in the food, right?). It doesn't indicate that you're a snowflake, fragile or otherwise.

Requesting a special, modified meal, OTOH, is a bit of douchebaggery. If it's as simple as "no cheese, please, on that _________", fine. But if it's "make it gluten-free and replace _______ with _____, " then just stay home and cook your own meals, for fark's sake.

It's nice of some restaurants to make an effort to accommodate people, but if it's a huge problem (and apparently it is a problem now), maybe they should just stop doing the "special orders."
 
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